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Madara shouldn't know about Nagato
When Madara was resurrected, he seemed to be under the impression that nagato brought him back. Now this is weird because that will like make nagato older than Jiraiya. When Jiraiya met nagato, he(nagato) was just a kid. unless there is a jutsu that can allow a shinobi to not age that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. i know the uzumakis are longlived but naruto ages normally.
I may perhaps be missing something so i want to know what u guys think.


by Quajo
Written: 2 years ago
Property: Naruto

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it dosent make nagato older it makes madara older. obviously he lived long enough to know who nagato was. probably met him at birth and figured he would be suitable for the ringun. we already know he didnt die at the valley of the end

Posted by wombat3476 2 years ago

I agree with wombat; additionally long lived doesn't mean you age slower it just means you live longer than what is considered normal. You will continue to grow older as the years pass. Some may be able to "wear" their age well (meaning they may be 70 but look like they are 50), some may look older than they actually are (they are 50 but look like they are 70), and some you may be able to guess correctly what age they are. But that has nothing to do with how long they live.

Posted by edawg 2 years ago

No, it won't make nagato any older. I think it means madara met nagato when nagato was little. Nagato still had his rinnegan before his parents died (444:16) So its likely he met madara before that.

Also i think it is around the time he met nagato, Madara activated his rinnegan. Madara said he activated his rinnegan shortly after his death(560:16). It is logical that before or after his death, he or tobi transplanted his rinnegan to nagato. If Madara were to activate his rinnegan after battle with harishama, he wouldn't have met nagato since he died shortly after activating his rinnegan. So he must have activated his rinnegan around the time he met nagato. If that's the case, i wonder why he didn't activate his rinnegan immediately after battle with harishama? Why it took some time to activate his rinnegan?

I think madara was searching for one final component; he needed an uzumaki descendent; their dna to activate his rinnegan. After activating his rinnegan, knowing he would pass away probably due to his advanced age, decided to give his rinnegan to nagato. Also nagato needed someone to guide him to carry out madara's plan b/c he was just a child and wouldn't understand the plan. So madara needed someone to guide nagato toward his plan. Madara relied on his accomplice; Tobi to persuade nagato to conform with his plan. However, it didn't go too well nagato didn't revive madara.

Posted by kent0005 2 years ago

wombat your suggestion might be the answer if only u can prove that madara did not die at the valley of the end but rather lived to a ripe old age. Personally i don't think madara died old as when he was resurrected he didn't seem that old. Most probably he was killed, so if not hashirama then who?
Also i'm only using jiraiya as the reference point since he was far older than nagato. I am not sure of the timeline but i don't think jiraiya had even been born at the time of madara and hashirama's fight at the VotE. So unless as wombat is postulating madara in a way survived that battle and lived long enough(which is pretty long) to when nagato was born to have given him the rinnegan, there is no way for madara to have known nagato prior to his battle with hashirama.

Posted by Quajo 2 years ago

@quajo: Can you prove that Madara died at the VotE? So far the information on this battle have been only theories except for what the real Madara and the Nine Tails has revealed. Also the resurrection jutsu has many loopholes so it is unreliable to go by what the ninja looks like. So how else would Madara know about Nagato if he wasn't alive sometime during his lifetime?

There is no proof that he was killed by the 1st during that battle. Also one could theorize that he would have had use of the Rinnegan during the battle, if that were the case as Madara himself said he obtained it prior to his death. But there is no timeline of when exactly this occured or for how long he had it.

We do know through flashbacks of Kushina that the 1st Hokage's wife was alive during her lifetime, she seemed pretty old prior to her giving the Nine Tails to Kushina. I don't know the status of the 1st during this time but it is possible that Madara was still alive. The theory of the Rinnegan is that it needs the DNA of the 1st (Uchiha) and 2nd (Senju)son of the Sage in order to become active. So if Madara obtained some Senju DNA this may have had an effect on his longevity.

Posted by edawg 2 years ago

Quajo: Kabuto mentions how madara didn't die in battle with harishama. That he gained a portion of harishama strength. Kabuto asked madara if he was wrong? (Manga 561: Madara NEVER denied it. If madara died then, how does he know nagato? He calls nagato a LITTLE brat, suggesting madara met nagato as a kid. I don't think madara would be too old because the sannins were pretty young. Plus, madara has senju's dna to reduce effect of aging.

Posted by kent0005 2 years ago

Is it just me, or am I just freaking out too much over the fact that Nagato is also an uzumaki!?!?!?!?

Posted by gzuzumaki 2 years ago

Is it just me, or am I just freaking out too much over the fact that Nagato is also an uzumaki!?!?!?!?

Posted by gzuzumaki 2 years ago

In any case, granted we go by ur assertions, we still can infer that madara did not give his eyes to nagato when he(madara)was alive because ET madara has eyes meaning he died with them. So the eyes transplant must have happen after madara's death which will mean that he had an accomplice most probably Tobi. Which brings up another question of why tobi didn't stay to groom nagato to be what he was meant? why did he wait so long to get back in touch with nagato?

Posted by Quajo 2 years ago

@Quajo:your theory would be correct however as I mentioned earlier the resurrection jutsu is inconsistent. We have had a few posts on this subject and how it works.

For instance, by your theory Itachi should be almost blind and still displaying signs of his sickness as he was prior to his death. So far there is no evidence of this. And all of those ninja that died in battle that were brought back should have their injuries (Asuma and his burns, Haku with a punctured chest, etc..). Please refer to previous blogs on this jutsu to get a full idea on some of the theories we tossed around.

Here is the blog posted by xaioque: Itachi's Edo Tensei (Immortality?); http://www.fandom.com/fandom/naruto/blogs/591/itac his-edo-tensei-immortality/?page=2;posted about 4 months ago and some other posts earlier than that

Posted by edawg 2 years ago

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