Tobi is obito and I will prove it this is a story of what I think happened
Tobi was left for dead or he died orchimaru stumbled uppon his body and decided to take it back to his lab to experiment on it. Since his whole right side of his body was crushed he was probably injected with dna possibly madara since he probably came up with the moon eye plan. One day orochimaru is discovered and obito manages to escape with another child zetsu. The war and that experience of being experimented on orchimaru and madara dna in his body changed obito in a way he thought the only way was via the eye of the moon plan. So about a year later of training etc... He decides to attack naruto He clashes with minato at the time he is 14-15 anyway after a failed attempt of getting the nine tails one year later he goes to try for yagura the third tails jinchuriki By this time obitio is around 15-16 and we can see some time has passed due to the change of his hair length so he succeeds. Anyway somehow during the war he causes nagato to gain the rinnegan we dont know how a person gets this so I cant really elaborate but it was possibly the pain of seeing his parents killed right between his eyes awakened it. Now you gotta ask yourself how could two ninja mistake civilians for ninja? Well obito probably cast a genjutsu on them which caused them to kill nagatos parents. So the akatski is formed and obito sees them as a way of achieving his objectives so he sends zetsu to infiltrate to see what he can find out. He later joins after zetsu and then that brings us up to date with the current events.
Question you might be asking? Tobi was crushed by a boulder there is no coming back how can he live from that? from that. We have seen alot of serious injuries in naruto over the years the rasengan which is an s class jutsu naruto has used countless of times on people and they have managed to survive so its possible he could have survived a boulder and even if he was killed he could have been easily brought back I mean look at chiyo she brought back gaara orchimaru could have found a technqiue able to revive him or something. Tobi is way to young explain how he could have matched minato? Itachi achived ms and age 12. He slaughtered the entire uchiha clan. If he can do that at age 12 matching minato at age 14 or 15 is very possible How do you know zetsu is one of orochimarus experiments? His zuzuzu matches the one that when yamato used on of his wood style in a manga chapter we know he got wood style from senju so its possible zetsu had some senju in him but has affected him differently.
Points I would like to make. Tobis skin on the left side of his face is extremely sagged this is caused when he was crushed by the boulder not all age if you look at other old characters you will see they dont have wrinkles like him.
In one of the naruto card games it says that zetsu hometown is konoha which supports my theory of him being fromt here and getting experiments by orchimaru.
His original left eye was gone the first time he appeared since when he uses his space time jutsu he only uses it in his right eye.
Being a uchiha he can support the rinnengan.
His space time jutsu is very similar to that of kakashi but since the eye is originally his the eye is perhaps limited in kakashi and it being his he has more control over it.
He was a student of the fourth who was a master of space time jutsu he could have easily picked up some knowledge from him.
The name tobi and obito have the same words except for one o.
So guys what do you think leave your questions in the comments below
Supernova1238, your theory was already mentioned
million times. you can't be certain who tobi
is , when we haven't really seen him in
battle. There is alot of loopholes and can't
come to conclusion based on speculations. You have
to think logically. First obito has no motivation
to attack the leaf village. Tobi is too sadistic,
cruel and hateful to be obito. Even tobi being
obito's father would be a better theory
because he would have motivation to do those
Second, Minato and
kakashi's would have recognized tobi as obito
by his fighting style, chakra or his tone of
voice, but they didn't.
Tobi is too skilled and powerful to be obito. He
can control the nine-tails with just his normal
sharingan. He is a very powerful genjutsu user
controlled fourth mizukage and konan so easily.
All of this mentioned before. Just want to
Tobi can effectively use the
gedo statue, which requires a lot of chakra. Now
recently, he was able to use that statue to
unleash the tailed beasts. Considering all this,
Tobi has a VAST amount of knowledge and skill to
say he is obito. It impossible to be certain who
tobi is, when nothing really happend in manga.
To me, Tobi seems inhuman and peculiar. His
actions are bizarre to be a even a Uchiha. A
uchiha would want to restore their clan and try to
dominate world by their power and fighting skills.
Tobi is the opposite; kills uchiha clan, hides
like a coward and wants to control everyone in
stupid illusion. Someone just said Tobi is a zetsu
or something. I think he might be something like
that created from madara and harishama's dna.
Someone who doesn't have a identity; a
nobody; sort of loser. He tried to be madara and
couldn't so feels like a nobody. So maybe
tobi is nobody.
Yo, blaze had a good point there, but the tobi
obito thing is just illogical as wombat tore apart
with ease lol I'm not making any guesses cuz
its almost impossible to pinpoint especially the
way kishi works
Think of Tobi as a Terminator but instead of the
machine on the inside it's the other Black
and White halves of the original Zetsu. The flesh
on the outside of Tobi is like Uchiha Madara
though. This must have been a very high level
justu giving this being, Tobi, some of the real
Uchiha Madara's and the First's dna.
Read my previous post for more info. I completely
agree with kent0005, too.
every body should take note dat the tobi or obito
people called the mask man has no rennigan but he
told konal that he want his property back which
is the rennigan which was believe that the
rennigan was own by the sage of the six part and
elder of his son my point his dat tobi or obito do
not have such eye to pass on to nagato also take
note dat et madara made a statement when was was
sumoned 'little nagato has grown'to be
Yea, I don't believe Tobi actually gave
Nagato the Rinnegan cuz Nagato told when he
unlocked the shit like the whole story...but this
is the same person who said he is Madara and then
they showed the real Madara. I think he tricks
himself into thinking those things lol and
there's no really hole in the story that you
could exploit to say he gave it to him besides him
saying it and he's gonna think he's the
sage of 6 paths now that he has it..he's a
nobody just like he said trying to be
somebody..that's what I think
Im obviously not as educated as some of you.. but is it off the table to guess that Tobi could
be the sage of the six paths himself.. and hes
gathering the kyubi to resurect the 10 tails aside
form 'moons eye plan'????
tobi isnt any zetzu he dosent show any character
istics of zetsu and both the white and black are
clones of the 1st
i think madara met
tobi when he left the village and they both came
up with this plan it seems to me that it was
orginally dif though fight the 1st get his dna,
make some clones and implant some dna in madara
get the rinngun, they find a child who can use
the rinngun nagato,madara dies,tobi continues on
with the moons eye plan. and nagato is to bring
madara back to life once all the beast are
together and start the war. but that didnt happen.
tobi knows to much info on the uchia and madara
himself to be just a nobody and he is smart to
plan all of this out make clones, perform multiple
eye surgeries, and implant 2 dif arms. he is
obviously not a full uchia or he would have went
with the madaras route and just acquired the
rinngun. he might be a senju or something who
Can anybody explain how the nine tail knew who it
was when it was rip out of kushina, it is obvious
that the nine tail recognize the chakra. and i
have no dough in my mind, that tobi is a split of
the original madara hence the involvement with
Ok guys listen up!
madara split off in his original sharingan form,
which would explain the permanent sharingan that
can't revert to anything, and call that half
nagato. 2. Experiment on him giving him the
1st hokage dna, hence the reason why he knows
everything, from the tail beast seal being
weakened, the barrier to get in the village,
i'm talking everything there is to know about
konoha. 3.Madara then awaken the rinnegan,
then tell nagato the plan and to revive him with
the rinnegan when it's all over, then dies
because off the splitting and the wound he receive
from the battle with the 1st hokage. 4.nagato
then attack the village and lost to the 4th hokage
minato, and then decides to take a different route
as he told minato many door left open. 5.nagato then find a child, (and i'm
agreeing with wombat for the first time) from the
uzumaki clan. and transplant the rinnegan madara
left and also give the name to the child and
disappear into the shadows 6.he then created
zetsu, and the akatsuki took the alias tobi, and
join his own group to make sure everything was
going as plan.
Does anyone remember what tobi told zetsu, after
nagato use the seventh path to bring back the dead
people of konoha. that the jutsu, was a jutsu
meant for him. meaning to bring back the original
madara that was dead, that's why when kabuto
summon the ET madara tobi was shock.
And another thing, the guy that kisame meet who
was controlling the third mizukage was the split
off madara. with the long hair, that is why kisame
again recognize him with the short hair went he
took off the mask, or else he would've had
no clue only zetsu and proberly pain/nagato.
Any other explanation will mean that you
guys need special attention