are u crazy he threw a baby in the air and wasnt even trying to kill it. havent see itachi move fast. its because the sasuke fight was in slow motion . sasuke kept up with the raikage minato wasnt as fast as the raikage without his kunai. na i think the 4th is bad ass but people have to be realistic. in any of his fights when have u seen him not use his kunai for speed none. to be honest we havent seen enough of both of them. but its not hands down minato. itachi is fast. and his sharingun would even the plain.

but can anybody tell me how minato would get past itachi genjitsu,or susano?

but say this itachi jutsu speed kakashi or sasuke couldnt keep up and they had the sharingun. itachi kept up with sasuke. sasuke is the 3 fastest ninja. so itachi was fast. and minatos foot speed isnt as fast as sasukes. but his flying god thunder tech def is.

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Quoting wombat3476

are u crazy he threw a baby in the air and wasnt even trying to kill it. havent see itachi move fast. its because the sasuke fight was in slow motion . sasuke kept up with the raikage minato wasnt as fast as the raikage without his kunai. na i think the 4th is bad ass but people have to be realistic. in any of his fights when have u seen him not use his kunai for speed none. to be honest we havent seen enough of both of them. but its not hands down minato. itachi is fast. and his sharingun would even the plain.
but can anybody tell me how minato would get past itachi genjitsu,or susano?

What? I'm pretty sure minato was faster that the Raikage... it's not Minato's Kunai but the markings on them... What slow motion? Is that why itachi got hit with a shuriken??... In Minato's databook entry I believe, it was said he was able to out-run an explosion with just minor injuries and that's just base speed which i believe the raikage needs level 1 shroud to keep up with. Naruto's incomplete bijuu mode beat A speedwise and that was said not to quite match the fourth's level.

Look what we do know is that Itachi said if he and Kisame had to fight Jiraya, at the very least he'd take them both with him to his death and you don't think Minato so are you saying minato isn't atleast half as strog as Jiraya?? We don't know whether minato could use sage mode but we can assume that with his smarts he had just as many frog related tricks as Jiraya... at the end of the day, all Minato has to do is touch you and it's over... You don't even know it's over until, well, it's over!

what are u talking about data book entry. and how does minato teleport with out puting a marking on something is kunai. naruto dodge a punch how can u say he is faster off of that? ao wasnt a match for is flying god thunder speed i was talking about foot speed. itachi didnt want to fight jiraiya because he had no desire to. thats why he said that. and if u actually think the 4th had as many sage tech or frog tech as jiraiya is stupid that what jiraiya based his hole arsenal of tech after while minato is seals and barriers. not only that jiraiya lived alot longer then the 4th did.

but in a fight a really fight to where itachi was aiming to kill someone i dont care who it is its not going to be easy. but u didnt answer me how would he get past itachi genjitsu or susano?

Yes BASE(natural/normal) speed Raikage's needs the shroud to keep up with Minato at BASE speed If one dodges another's attack at it's fastest speed then common sense dictates that the dodger is faster... Itachi had no desire to fight?? is that why he took on Kakashi and the rest??

Ok maybe not as many but I'm sure he had enough to put Itachi away, he too was a genius. Genjutsu? Really, is there a Hokage level Shinobi (except maybe Tsunade/Gaara) that can be beaten by genjutsu??

And Itachi wouldn't get to use susano, that's another reason the yellow flash was so popular... Not because he drags fights on.

For all we know Susano and maybe Itachi could be sealed by the forth just like that... There's just a level of shinobi that direct use of sharingan doesn't work against.

We have not seen alot of him to not say his fast we only seen one fight. Genjitsu only works if he looks into his eye ......susano is going to be petty hard to get past..sealsing jitsu would be a cnt to susano

We have not seen alot of him to not say his fast we only seen one fight. Genjitsu only works if he looks into his eye ......susano is going to be petty hard to get past..sealsing jitsu would be a cnt to susano

We have not seen alot of him to not say his fast we only seen one fight. Genjitsu only works if he looks into his eye ......susano is going to be petty hard to get past..sealsing jitsu would be a cnt to susano

Quoting Bandage

Yes BASE(natural/normal) speed Raikage's needs the shroud to keep up with Minato at BASE speed If one dodges another's attack at it's fastest speed then common sense dictates that the dodger is faster... Itachi had no desire to fight?? is that why he took on Kakashi and the rest??
Ok maybe not as many but I'm sure he had enough to put Itachi away, he too was a genius. Genjutsu? Really, is there a Hokage level Shinobi (except maybe Tsunade/Gaara) that can be beaten by genjutsu??
And Itachi wouldn't get to use susano, that's another reason the yellow flash was so popular... Not because he drags fights on.
For all we know Susano and maybe Itachi could be sealed by the forth just like that... There's just a level of shinobi that direct use of sharingan doesn't work against.

Man, i like the way u analyze things.
Itachi didn't want to fight? wombat where did itachi say this? itachi ran away from Jiraiya becos he was weak. Jiraiya would have killed him easily.
Jiraiya was not referred to as sama by the likes of Kakashi bcos of his looks. A major reason of akatsuki staying clear off naruto was becos of Jiraiya. The whole organistion mind u.

the only person who could defeat Jiraiya one-on-one was nagato. Nagato was also the strongest in Akatsuki by a long margin.

Minnato is stronger than Itachi. it's as simple as that.