Quoting Chedahokage

I can see where QUAJO is coming from, because the two people that used izanagi had senju cell, and sharingan eyes, (danzo and tobi) which were transplanted. but then again i'm not doubting the fact that an uchiha can perform izanagi that's because it's originate as a eye technique

It's Tobi who said u need both uchiha and senju powers to do Izanagi. In actual fact he said ONLY those with senju and uchiha powers. read manga chapter 510, page 10.

If u have a reference from the manga which proves that an uchiha without senju power is capable of izanagi, am all ears.

with Izanami, we don't know if this applies. we are yet to see.

Guys...Why do you think an Uchiha put Izanagi as a forbiden technique?...In my opinion,it's bcoz there is a requirement to perform the Izanagi...Yes,the thing that was needed to perform the Izanagi,which is Senju power...And no where in the manga said that the sharingan don't need Senju power to perform Izanagi...Give a reference if there's anything in the manga that said the sharingan don't need Senju power...As I recalled,Tobi have said it that to perform the Izanagi someone needs an Uchiha and Senju power...

thats what its called go to school when refering to asia they dont say western dumb ass.

and tobi said perfect perfect u need senju blood. the fact that its an uchia tech and its forbidden because u loose the ability to use the eye means that they have used it before and deemed it dangerous. the version the uchia can use is a genjitsu that alters reality kind of how danzo used it tobi was talking about the ability to create from nothing that is izanagi in its perfect form.

how would the uchia know that they would need senju dna to perform izanagi? the first person to combine the 2 was madara after his fake death? so how did the uchia know of it and new enough to make it forbidden? because the can use it.

Quoting wombat3476

how would the uchia know that they would need senju dna to perform izanagi? the first person to combine the 2 was madara after his fake death? so how did the uchia know of it and new enough to make it forbidden? because the can use it.

But do u know the timeline within which izanagi was classified forbidden? How many uchiha do u know as having used Izanagi? How did madara know that by combining uchiha and senju powers u develop new ones?

Most of the uchiha's most powerful techs (MS and EMS abilities, and others) were realized with Madara even though the theories have always existed on paper.

Also izanagi is not an uchiha tech. Based on the facts available, it is most likely originally a rinnegan tech. The uchiha tried to copy it by getting modifications in the form of the senju power. But even with that the side effects are too great. It is a forbidden tech only among the uchiha. At least so far as we know it.

well if u listen to tobi he says its a uchia tech you cant just take half of what he says and throw out the other half.

and there have been many other with the mangekyu sharingun and it never said u needed the mangekyu sharingun to use it.

Izangi is a jutsu which allows the user to control their own state of existence it is based on the six paths creation of all things.
Izanami if it can decided could possible allow the user to control the state of someone else existence

In theory don't all Uchihas have Senju blood and vice versa? Both of their bloodlines come from the Sage of the Six Paths so I would think ALL Uchihas have a small inherent amount of Senju DNA. The only reason why Madara needed Senju Hashirama's DNA specifically is for the Mokuton release. I would think that Itachi and any other Uchiha who was strong enough could use Izanami/Izanagi, and the same thing applies for anyone else who has a combo of Senju/Uchiha DNA whether by natural or experimental means as long as the person is strong enough to cast the jutsu(such as Danzo).

Quoting wombat3476

well if u listen to tobi he says its a uchia tech you cant just take half of what he says and throw out the other half.
and there have been many other with the mangekyu sharingun and it never said u needed the mangekyu sharingun to use it.

read chapter 510 pagge 11 again, Tobi says izanagi was a jutsu used by the sage of six paths. Its the sage of six paths an uchiha? I u trying to say that anything created by the sage of six paths belongs to the uchiha?
It is just like the uchiha to feel that anything of the rikudou sennin should be theirs alone.

And wombat, i deduce u even fail to grapse the underlying theme of naruto. The story is about love and unity. The power that can be realized if people combine their unique abilities and work together as one for a common cause.

The uchiha and senju are strong as individual distinct clans or people. But it is only when they become one will true power be achieved. I think that is all what the rikudou tablet says. madara realised this but was too selfish and wanted it all to himself. You will realise madara has some of the pieces of the puzzle. He has the uchiha and senju power. He now wants the combined powers of the tailed-beast to become complete.