The 3rd and 4th hokage are 1 and 2. I say the 3rd is the number 1 cuz he lived a really long life compared to the 4th who probably didnt reach his 30s. N and 3 has to be Nagato. Now not counting the sage of six paths these are the best three ninja produce so far and here is why. The 4th hokage created the dead demon seal and taught it to the 3rd. That jutsu alone mean they can pretty much make it a tie no matter who they face. Not to mention the 4th was faster than anyone n had the flying thunder god technique. The third hokage new every jutsu in the leaf village and even way past his prime he could beat the 1st and 2nd hokages and orochimaru. And during the fight monkey king emma even said that was pathetic compared to what he use to be able to do. He wasnt call the god of shinobi for no reason. Now nagato said he was far from the sage of six paths but he was still incredible strong. First of just with the six paths alone he is able to destroy any village. Next idk how many of u actually watch the anime but if u seen what he did to hanzo and his army u should know he cant be beat one on one forsuree.
The third's goal was to seal Oro, which he
couldn''t. Oro came to kill his former
master and the 3rd died at the end. So who
achieved his goal?
wombat, which are
the leaf techs and which aren't? Tell me.
Show me how strong the third was in his
prime? what he accomplished in his prime? what did
he create in his prime?
You say the
third used all those jutsus: fire ball, mud ball,
etc, right? which of them worked? Could the third
defend against mokuton? No. That is why he
summoned enma who transformed and broke him out of
it. Did you see the 1st and 2nd summon anything to
help them? Did you see Tobirama use any other tech
than the water release it used to counter the
As Oro clearly points out ET 1st
and 2nd were even toying with the third.
The 3rd was fighting ETs who did not have their
personalities; who lacked the will of fire they
had when they were alive; who were standing there
for most of the battle and not doing any fighting.
Oro only used them to counter Hiruzen's
The death God fought the battle
for the 3rd and got 3 souls for the work. The
death God won and Oro who was the last man
It wasn't Kishi who
said that. The databook compiles what is said and
done in the manga and anime. I don't think
Kishi has said who he considers the best shinbobi.
He has left that to the readers judgement. It was
Oro who said that and also the thing about the 3rd
knowing all konoha jutsus. These are only
Oro's assertions and have not been confirmed
by anyone else or even facts.
starters, Oro is wrong because the facts show the
third does not know all the jutsus in Konoha.
It's not possible. Look up the databook and
note the number of jutsus it attributes to the
Also show me where the manga says
Hashirama is only the best of his time. kabuto
says his abilities are like a fairy tale like that
of the So6P. The ANBU shinobi giving commentary at
the battle also said the 1st and 2nd are the best
That's funny cuz the arthor of the databook
name says Masashi Kishimoto. So if he was the
author of the manga and wrote a character databook
that says on page 117 and I quote "hiruzen
sarutobi was said to be the strongest Hokage that
Konoha ever had." Before anyone doubt me go
read it first. So if 1st hokage was stronger why
would the author say that about the 3rd hokage in
his character databook.
oros goal wasnt to kill the 3rd it was to destroy
the leaf so no he didnt win. sarutobis goal was to
pretect it and that he did.
i dont need
to know what happened in the 3rds prime u dumb
fuck. answere me this was he in his prime when he
fought oro no he wasnt even a first time reader
can see that.
and summing enma is a
tech, so the 4th is less of a ninja for summoning
and having there
personalities taken away is a good thing. it only
helps when they want to fight that person they
wouldnt want to fight the 3rd.
there only elementaly jutsus in the leaf?
genjitsu, forbiden jutsu, sealing jutsu, taijutsu,
and elemental. what is the leaf bases of element
fire. why would they teach water? the village dont
and individual might not the village. he knew
every jutsu the village had to offer.
Read 115 page 19. Oro came to purposely kill the
3rd. The invasion failed because Gaara failed to
release shukaku. Also the genjutsu did not work
well. Jiraiya also came. All these played played a
The leaf doesn't have only
one single elemental jutsu. what do you mean? If
we talk of tech that can be said to be Konoha
techs, they will be the KG: mokuton, byakugan,
sharingan; ET and the hidden techs of the Nara,
aburame, akimichi, yamanaka. These techs are
unique to konoha.
personalities taken away is a weakness of ET.
Madara and Itachi won because they have their
You are basing all your
arguments on something you are in the dark about?
That's real sound. How fucked up are you? No
The death God is not a jutsu but a being.
He is like a summoning. Just like Gamabunta who
naruto summons to fight for him because of their
contract signed in blood. Gamabunta is not a jutsu
but a being.
You make a contract will
the death God by summoning him. He seals whatever
you want sealed in exchange for your soul.
@mrmcdonald. The databook captures that statement
you quoted because Oro said that in the manga. As
you quote "Hiruzen Sarutobi was SAID TO
BE...." Kishi is just stating the
opinion of the character.
kakashi says the sharingan is just a mutation of
the byakugan. The databook MIGHT capture it as
'the sharingan is said to be a mutation of
the byakugan' (this is just to explain it to
you. I'm not quoting the databook but you can
look it up)