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The TOBI's
the old tobi who's responsible on the ninetails attack back then was NOT the tobi we know now as obito. by that time obito is so young and what ever kind of training they did to obito whether it is madara who trained him you cannot force his mind and body to be that strong for a short period of time whether he is the story's prodigy like kakashi and sasuke, kishi is into reality seeing that naruto was made in 1997 and manga in 1999' so it means by his age obito's body is still not capable of everything specially his critical thinking, the way he made decisions and how he speak, you can learned all of that through years of experience and hard training. and remember when tobi and minato faced off they were on the same height while kakashi and others were about to evacuate coz they were so young and you can see that they were still kid and small. well how can that be ... so one thing is for sure... obito is just a continuation of the old tobi... kamui is one of the mangekyou sharingan's special skill, so anyone who possesing mangekyo sharingan can learned it but ofcourse not all but to those who is really really talented.

Tobi has different mask's... and what i feel there are (3)three TOBI... 1st, the one who gave nagato's rinnegan and who fought minato, 2nd, the one who's manipulating the mizukage and other big officials of different villages to form an alliance and who's with itachi during the uchiha massacre. and now the 3rd one and perfect moment for obito when he showed up and joined akatsuki as TOBI like an ordinary member... this is a mere fact where he can embodied the masked man coz obito by this time is fully grown man like kakashi who is jonin in konoha, and for sure he mastered all his technique... so TOBI who fought minato and TOBI who talk and ask help by itachi in uchiha massacre you're retard if you still think that's Obito... anyways, still, just my speculation, atlist with basis though have nice day manga readers


by markdoll
Written: 2 years ago
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Posted by markdoll 2 years ago

I don't think Minato already a Hokage when Obito supposed to died...if he is Hokage,Konoha shinobis that join the war will call him "Yondaime Sama" or "Hokage Sama" or "Minato Sama",even if he is not a commander of the war...but,some of the Konoha Shinobi called him "you"...it's just "you" for the Hokage?...really?...they suppose to be put some respects to Minato if he is really Hokage at that time...

Posted by CekikDaud 2 years ago

Quoting markdollHe will never be given an S-rank mission there aside from it takes time he might also be in big trouble there lol. so B-rank mission is enough


Hey! do you know anything about Minnato? Do you know that it was because he had to go defeat a whole platoon of enemy shinobi that resulted in obito getting crushed. Do you know that free on sight orders were given to enemy shinobi if they ever met minnato? Do you know that had it not been for Minnato konoha would have lost miserably in the 3rd war?

You must be new to naruto?

Posted by Quajo 2 years ago

Quoting Quajo
Quoting markdollHe will never be given an S-rank mission there aside from it takes time he might also be in big trouble there lol. so B-rank mission is enough

Hey! do you know anything about Minnato? Do you know that it was because he had to go defeat a whole platoon of enemy shinobi that resulted in obito getting crushed. Do you know that free on sight orders were given to enemy shinobi if they ever met minnato? Do you know that had it not been for Minnato konoha would have lost miserably in the 3rd war?
You must be new to naruto?


i dont get what your trying to say or point out. you instantly jumped in with full of hates and questions lol, but i will try my best to answer some of your thoughts and to relief the pain you feel inside.

1. do i know anything about minato? nope, but all the thoughts i shared was based on naruto.wiki
-you cannot read all the details yet here in naruto manga alone, so try other resources.

2. Do you know that it was because he had to go defeat a whole platoon of enemy shinobi that resulted in obito getting crushed?
-are you blaming minato why obito got crushed and thought died? after defeating Mahiru the first enemy they encountered, Minato soon headed for the front-lines to assist Konoha's forces, leaving the team to carry out their mission alone. obito is a chunin level ninja he is not a normal kid out there, they knew the risk that might happened to them out there. and this ninja oath-ed to serve and protect their village. minato can leave them alone considering that they were jonin and chunin level already and it's not a S-rank mission.

3. Do you know that free on sight orders were given to enemy shinobi if they ever met minnato?
-so what's you point here? or you just want say all you know even the senseless thing. rotfl

4. Do you know that had it not been for Minnato konoha would have lost miserably in the 3rd war?
-so what's your point here again? that's why he is appointed to be the 4th hokage even very young for the position bcoz they know how great minato is.

Quajo your like kabuto. i hope you find peace in life )

Posted by markdoll 2 years ago

Quoting CekikDaudI don't think Minato already a Hokage when Obito supposed to died...if he is Hokage,Konoha shinobis that join the war will call him "Yondaime Sama" or "Hokage Sama" or "Minato Sama",even if he is not a commander of the war...but,some of the Konoha Shinobi called him "you"...it's just "you" for the Hokage?...really?...they suppose to be put some respects to Minato if he is really Hokage at that time...


hmm Maybe bcoz he just have few appearances here in manga specially in kannabi bridge mission, but look this, best proof bro. i think this was part 0f their chunin exam,

While in the forest, they were confronted by a team consisting of Might Guy, Genma Shiranui and Ebisu. Obito, wanting to impress Rin, immediately attacked the group, but as he seemingly prepared to use a Fire Release technique, he choked on the sweet the elderly woman had given him and was knocked out by Guy. In the gap between the second and third rounds of the examination, Obito trained arduously to hone his skills and expressed his pride in his clan as well as his dream to become HOKAGE as their SENSEI had in his conversations with Rin

Posted by markdoll 2 years ago

Damn people he wasn't hokage yet I already proved that. I swear some people just look at the pictures and don't read what's going on. It's not even a discussion

Posted by mrmcdonald 2 years ago

so give me some proofs or links supporting your thoughts, i find mine more real provided some fact ideas and evidence, it should be discussed coz that's how the 599 shows it, unless kishi and his team was drunk while doing it, or kishi is about to quit this bcoz of some personal problem lol. coz we, readers easily notice it while they not. so this will be KISHIppuden, wtf

Posted by markdoll 2 years ago

Quoting markdoll
Quoting CekikDaudI don't think Minato already a Hokage when Obito supposed to died...if he is Hokage,Konoha shinobis that join the war will call him "Yondaime Sama" or "Hokage Sama" or "Minato Sama",even if he is not a commander of the war...but,some of the Konoha Shinobi called him "you"...it's just "you" for the Hokage?...really?...they suppose to be put some respects to Minato if he is really Hokage at that time...

hmm Maybe bcoz he just have few appearances here in manga specially in kannabi bridge mission, but look this, best proof bro. i think this was part 0f their chunin exam,
While in the forest, they were confronted by a team consisting of Might Guy, Genma Shiranui and Ebisu. Obito, wanting to impress Rin, immediately attacked the group, but as he seemingly prepared to use a Fire Release technique, he choked on the sweet the elderly woman had given him and was knocked out by Guy. In the gap between the second and third rounds of the examination, Obito trained arduously to hone his skills and expressed his pride in his clan as well as his dream to become HOKAGE as their SENSEI had in his conversations with Rin


It just means that Minnato also had dreams of becoming hokage, which we already know. It doesn't mean that minnato then was hokage; he just had the dream. Remember the scene we are arguing over happened before the 3rd war because I don't think Konoha would have been able to have the manpower or the time to organise a chunin exams during wartime. This even makes it impossible for Minnato to have been Hokage then.

Try this: At every point in time there is ONE hokage. But then there are candidates for the tittle made up of elite Jonins. Minnato due to his abilities was then a prime candidate.

The fact that you are candidate doesn't mean you are hokage or make the village carve your head in the hokage monument. Kakashi was a prime candidate but his face was not put on the monument

The manga has already pointed out that for tactical and security reasons, kages very rarely left their villages. Moreover, if Minnato was a kage then he would have had his guard of ANBU with him if he went outside the village.

Markdoll, I hope you have your proof. Sorry if I came out rude in my earlier comment.

Posted by Quajo 2 years ago

Quoting mrmcdonaldIf anybody read this http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/239/7 minato clearly states kakashi is a jonin like him.

Posted by mrmcdonald 2 years ago

i appreciate your comment guys and you really have some good points too that somehow i feel i was wrong, though since it was all our speculation and observation i still find mine more true, when minato said he was a jonin too like kakashi, yea he is. being hokage and a jonin is two different things, joinin is a ninja level, so in real life your like a lieutenant in an army and hokage is president of the village, my point is minato told that to kakashi to compliment him for what he achieve, that we are on the same level before i become hokage, and not impossible for you to become hokage too someday. as we all know being hokage is more into political side that no matter how strong you are like orichimaru or madara even they surpassed being a sanin ninja level there's no hokage ninja level next to them.
i hope i explain it well just trying to defend that minato is already hokage that time.

one more, minato is not a typical hokage we know, in fact i never saw him in manga wearing hokage suit/hat and never been in the office of the hokage doing some paperworks unlike 3rd we've always seen there, he is like an ordinary jonin, and the first time i heard him called "the 4th" is when the 9tails attacked the village. could it be possible he will only become hokage or be called hokage everytime the leaf is in big help of him? this are the things that i knew yet, so you if you have another idea guys just comment here coz i know my thoughts are yet not enough to convince you all.

Posted by markdoll 2 years ago

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