I don't know whether it's just me but naruto has become a little boring: one-sided and too stereotypical. Especially ever since it was revealed that Tobi was obito and the whole Madara been alive till just a few years ago.
1. It's like everything reverts back to the uchiha and madara: their hatred. Madara(uchiha clan) are the centre of the Narutoverse and all other things revolve around them. where are all the other interesting characters, clans and story angles. The dual theme the story started with has been reduced to one: Uchiha hatred theme.
2. I am also tired with the someone becoming strong because they want to protect loved ones or someone becomes a villain/evil because they lost someone they love sub-plots. what happened to other motivations in life. That is why I liked Kabuto but hated his back-story.
3. why did Oro have to come back in such a frivolous manner when unknown or poorly developed characters could have generated a new spark into the story. whatever Oro is about to do could have been achieved without him being revived.
The stereotype: it's like if you are born uchiha, there is a 99% chance you will turn evil. I did not agree with the Tobi=Obito theories because it was too simple and uninteresting. I had wanted Kishi to dumbfound us by breaking the uchiha/senju stereotypes. For me it would have been better if the story had gone this way:
Madara at the VotE realised his evil ways and repented. In his bid to sanctify the uchiha name he worked secretly with Hashirama to try to find a way to end hatred in the world. A senju(Tobi) who has a bone to pick with the uchiha learns about this and conspires and murder both Hashirama and Madara. He then impersonates Madara so to fester hate and anger against the uchiha. He instigates for the uchiha to be exterminated and sets his sights on ruling the world.
well... that's my amateurish take. Let me know what you think.
I do agree that the Uchiha hatred theme is a bit
old now. Hatred in itself is a key center point to
the whole series (Kyuubi = being of hatred, Naruto
out to rid the world of hatred, etc). That's
why I hated Sasuke. He left with Oro to get power,
then finally kills Itachi and wants to destroy
Konoha, even though Itachi did all of this to
protect Konoha? This is stupid and ridiculous. Now then, to answer the points:
agree that it is kinda stupid that the Uchiha is
the main focal point of the story. I liked the
Hyuuga's and the Byakugan - I thought it was
pretty interesting. Yet it all just goes back to
the Uchiha and their annoyances.
agree, it is a somewhat cliche theme for power.
But remember that was how the series really began.
Naruto began getting stronger when Iruka was about
to be killed. Sasuke sought power because his clan
was murdered. Stuff like that. That is, annoying
or otherwise, how the plot really developed.
3. Orochimaru coming back at all was just
annoying. I thought he was finally gone, yet here
he is. It made sense that he was still alive,
though. Remember: When Sasuke fought Itachi and
was out of chakra, Orochimaru freed himself from
the curse mark then. So it makes sense that he was
still alive, because Anko still had her curse
mark. But still, annoying.
stereotype: Yes, it is annoying. I never liked the
Uchiha because I viewed them as extremely
overpowered, but the thought behind the Sharingan
and whatnot was pretty interesting. But it just
annoyed me that they pretty much all went evil.
Another reason why I hated Sasuke: I thought that
he would be the one Uchiha to stay good, yet he
proved me wrong. Itachi was secretly good, so I
guess that is alright.
That little back
story is pretty interesting. Ah well. This is how
the manga turned out, so no use crying over
spilled milk, I guess. It is frustrating, though.
How much more overpowered can you get than Madara,
though? With just his staff, he blocked a
Tailed-Beast mode Naruto's Tailed-Beast Bomb
Rasengan. Seriously? Not only that, it was
effortless AND he just smashed him away. -Sigh.-
Im really mad over the fact that Hashirama
can't be revived again. After seeing how
powerful Madara is, seeing Hashirama in action
would be ridiculous. The fight between the
Orochimaru and Hiruzen was a waste of the first
and the second hokage. Why is Orochimaru never
dead? I do agree, Sasuke could have definetely did
whatever he was going to do by himself or with
someone other than Orochimaru as a partner. Also
other characters I would love to see are, Rin,
Kakashi's dad, and the jinchuuriki in more
On the Orochimaru point, I actually made a thread
about this in a different forum before he was even
revived speculating that he shouldn't
actually be dead yet because he still had 1
back-up plan left. I disagree that it was
frivolous, as Kishimoto had shown us that he set
the stage for Orochimaru's revival during the
fight between Itachi and Sasuke.
for the Obito bit... eh, I think we would have
liked it ten times more if Kishimoto executed it
much better. In fact, I'm sure he
wouldn't even have half the complaints about
that aspect of the plot if he used a different
name than Tobi. At that point, it just seemed like
the idea of a 5 year old.
1: Uchiha being the point of it all was the main
story to Naruto in the first place. It'd be
more accurate to say the sage is the middle of it
all considering the sharingan was a root from the
sage. The whole story is centered around a
destined fate of 2 clans clashing. Which is what
we will probably see with Naruto and Sasuke.
2. I'd like to know what other
in-depth motivating factors there are that
aren't, or don't stem from, protection,
powerlust and revenge to attain power. That is
open to any anime, ever. Those are key motivating
factors to anyone gaining strength, it just
depends on how they portray acquiring it.
3. I agree Orochimaru coming back was kinda
dull, but we all saw it coming. The way it
happened with Sasuke during the Itachi fight was
obvious too considering Orochimaru said he put his
"lifeforce" chakra into all his curse
marks. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if he
jumped out of the bone dude's curse mark now
that he's resurrected via ET.
shisui is the only known good uchiha. Itachi
massacred a whole clan: children, women, old
people. Someone who commits genocide can not be
good. And don't try to argue for his good
intentions because if we are to consider
intentions, then half of the people languishing in
prisons the world over would have been freed.
@qraq. In naruto all the villains are
motivated by their twisted desire to make the
world a better place. Except probably Oro who only
The story is about
two brothers disagreement being carried on by
their descendants. Now the story has focused on
only one side of the divide that we know virtually
nothing about the other. So far we only know of 2
100% senju. The overemphasis on the uchiha is
making the story boring. I want to also read the
story being told from the senju view. So we are
treated to both sides view injecting some variety
into the story.
crying about how the story is all uchia this and
senju that is a waste of time its been that way
from the beging what where u expecting some none
uchia to be tobi? and secondly oro wasnt all about
immortality he was about knowledge he wanted to be
immortal so he can learn all of the jutsu of the
No I am crying about how the senju have been
marginalized in the story so far. Whilst
uchiha's keep cropping up, there aren't
any other known senju aside the 1st and 2nd.
Also Oro wanted to be immortal because he
feared death. He wanted knowledge that could make
him a perfect immortal. But I guess to live
forever you also have to stop people from killing
so he had to be powerful.
My Point is this, the senju are a reputable and
important clan in the history of Konoha and the
narutoverse. For them to have virtually gone
extinct in less than a century of Konoha's
founding would mean that something may have
happened to them. Did they die in the world wars?
The manga has run to over 600 chapters and we
still do not know this. This is at best an
oversight on Kishi's part.
feared death. Dealing with the death of his
parents so young, seeing Tsunade's pain at
the death of dan and all the dead he saw during
the 2nd world war.
I don't know...in my opinion, there is still
a lot to learn about the leaf village and Senju
clan. Why doesn't anyone from the village
question where all the Senju are? Something tells
me that the members of the leaf know of some sort
of event that may have occured to the Senju.