yeah...I noticed it too...without 10 tailed,Madara could win against the shinobi alliance...he just need to use a perfect susanoo to fight against the shinobi alliance...it's ridiculous how he is not so powerful like he is in his prime...LoL

but thats as he is powered up if he was normal he couldnt if he didnt have the rinngun he would have died

Whther or not he didnt have rinnegan, he had eternal mangekyou, susanoo, nine tails

ur still not gettting the point the nine tails isnt part of him he stole it. if it was one on one he would have gotten destroyed,

I totally agree with the OP on this one. I lost all respect for Madara after learning he stooped low enough to steal Hashirama's DNA for power; he set a terrible example for the Uchihas as the founder of the clan.

Who cares if the nine-tails isn't part of him? If anything, that gives credit to how powerful he is. Madara used his own power to control the nine-tails and didn't even have to seal it to take control of it. I imagine he had to constantly manipulate mass amounts of chakra in order to force the nine-tails to do his bidding during his fight with Hashirama. I'd say this supports Madara's reputation. If he wasn't using that chakra to control the nine-tails, I'm willing to bet he'd be using it to perform some high level jutsu instead. The OP is misguided.

Also, keep in mind that right now, it is Madara and Obito (count it, two people) vs. the ENTIRE SHINOBI WORLD. Even if you take away some of his new powers, I'm sure he would whoop any modern shinobi in a one on one fight.

Now to my main point: you're saying he is over-rated because he didn't have all of these powers in his prime, but was instead gifted them when he was revived. So what? His prime doesn't matter. All that matters is right now. The bottom line is that the revived Madara has these powers and is making a mockery of the entire Shinobi Alliance. You are essentially saying that Madara would lose if not for all his great powers: "if he didnt have the rinngun and it was a normal fight he would have died by naruto." Let's extend that then. I'd say Naruto would die in an instant if not for his Nine-tails chakra. It doesn't matter where the characters got their power. All that matters is that they have it and how they decide to use it.

lol no it does matter naruto was pretty much born with those powers not madara. he was given or stollen them. i have helled the same stand for the boot leg version of oro (kabuto) u say madara and obito are fighting the entire army. well its more like the 10 tails is and madara isnt even controllin him.

and it does matter people base madara in his prime with what they see now witch isnt true. he wasnt even close to this strength.

madara left to look for the 9 tails because he knew he couldnt beat the 1st strait up. the 1st had a tail beast like pets. and i do believe ninja now could have beaten madara in his prime when he had just ems

it depends on who you compare Madara to. He is the strongest uchiha to ever live, that's for sure.

For the love of all that is holy, Wombat, please learn to spell. Next, learn how to make a cogent and substantiated argument. Naruto was not born with his powers. His parents sealed the fox within him. How do you not see that? The Madara we've been shown fighting Hashirama, on the other hand, used his own skills and chakra in order to suppress and take control of the Nine-Tails at the Valley of the End. Naruto was the one who was gifted most of his power, not prime-time Madara.

And I like to point out that Hashirama also used things external to him in his fight with Madara, i.e. the necklace which helped him to control his chakra, a scroll of seals, etc.