So much for my retirement, finally people who are
able to look at the story objectively. Like
I've said before I've never said the
Uchiha were perfect no clan is but the Uchiha were
always labelled the bad guys no matter what they
You forgot that the 1st has Sage Mode. (unless
he's using some other technique in
'Hashirama and Madara'
I doubt the 1st can take Madara on by himself now,
since Madara has his DNA and the Rinnegan. But
with the other Hokages and Naruto (plus the
alliance), it should end up interesting. Naturally
we all know Naruto will win somehow, but how is a
How can you say you are objective when the first
statement you make denotes otherwise.
It is not about the abilities you have but how
you use them. Even Nagato who had the rinnegan for
years couldn't actually use it fully. So far
Madara has shown very little about his
capabilities with the rinnegan.
Hashirama is the original. not a dna enhancement.
The first had a really hard time taking on Madara
with the Kyuubi (the battle lasted for days if
I'm not mistaken), and since their battle
Madara may no longer have the Kyuubi, but what he
has gained in power far surpasses the Kyuubi.
Truth is, realistically looking at it, Hashirama
couldn't take him in a rematch.
Madara don't have 100% control over the 10
tailed...like he said,he need to be a real human
to become the 10 tailed jinchuriki...it's
Obito who controlled the 10 tailed...and
obviously,Naruto and the others won't let
Madara and Obito to be connected to the 10 tailed
Being Rinnegan users, both Obito and
Madara can control the 10-tails. Naruto and the
others have no choice, if they could have
disconnected Madara and Obito from the 10-tails
they would have - Madara's too much.
Don't forget that once the 10-tails is done
transforming, they won't be able to control
it any longer unless Obito sacrifices himself. I
am guessing (and hoping) Kishimoto will sacrifice
Obito and give Madara control of the 10-tails.
Most anime/manga (and I say most though
I've never seen one)don't set up this
ticking time-bomb type of scenario where the hero
fights to stop the Resurrection/creation of some
great evil power to actually have said protagonist
prevent the coming of the greatest force known to
the story; they have the hero defeat the force
after it is successfully brought forward. Majin
Buu and Cell from DBZ, and, Diabound and the
Sacred beasts from Yugioh, come to mind to
How about we actually wait until these flashbacks
of Madara & Hashirama progress until we start
underestimating the 1st hokage.. Lets face it we
know jack shit about what really went down between
Madara & the 1st.. we dont know what the
variables were of that fight..who was holding back
or not.. only that it lasted days.. We dont even
know all of the 1st hokage's jutsu's or
abilities. all we know is that he uses
"wood" jutsu but yet he was called the
"god of shinobi" ? Hashirama is a
fucking mystery so i dont think you should rule
him out just because we see madara with senju DNA
& the rinnegan.