Ok guys I recently read a poll on this site saying "If Naruto didn't fight Kimimaro and had stamina for his battle with Sasuke, who would have won?" and on the poll the answers that could be chosen were
A.Naruto
B.Sasuke
C.Naruto did use a lot of chakra battling Kimimaro that could have been used on Sasuke...
Now I totally disagree with answers A and C. No honestly I don't agree with the entire poll. Now check this out, during the entire fight can anyone tell me when Naruto said "I'm running low on chakra".... I have watched the episode over 100 times and never heard it. The reason I made this blog was to clear things up that people may not have understood. Now Naruto is my favorite character from the entire series so when I say this stuff it's not because I like Sasuke or anything like that. Sasuke destroyed Naruto... It's that simple. Once he went C2 during the fight you could say it was pretty much over. I mean the running out of chakra thing never made sense to me. Naruto only had TWO ninjutsu.... TWO! The isn't any possible way Naruto lost all his chakra using shadow clones the entire fight. While Sasuke still had chakra after two burst of chidori. Even after that he used Phoenix Flower Jutsu, Fire ball jutsu, Dragon Flame jutsu, and then a constant chakra burner SHARINGAN! Now the question should be how the hell did Sasuke use all of those ninjutsu and still have chakra, and I not counting the C2 chidori that finished Naruto. People it pains me to say it but Naruto had plenty of chakra. He only used the nine tails chakra because Sasuke Falcon dropped him and broke his head. So in a nutshell Naruto's lost was not caused by the Kimimaro and his one use of Multi Shadow clone jutsu (with nine tails chakra, so his normal chakra wasn't consumed)....
If you agree please say so and if you don't please say so and explain why ....
Not sure I totally agree with you on that one. I
agree its possible Saskue could have won no matter
the conditions but, the real reason Naruto lost in
that battle is because he wasn't going in for
the kill like Saskue. Naruto's only goal
during the final exchange was to prove Saskue
wrong and scratch his forehead protector, while
Saskue was looking to take Naruto out. Naruto
would have inflicted some serious damage if he had
went in for the finishing blow.
Well again I have to disagree, although Naruto
didn't come at Sasuke with the intent to kill
he said himself he came at Sasuke with everything
he had to keep him from going to Orochimaru. But
your point is much more valid then that Naruto low
on stamina thing.... That doesn't even sound
right. Naruto ran out of stamina. Ewwww!
Use of multi shadow clone uses alot of chakra
too...IMO, it is a half win half loss to Naruto
back then coz he was able to prove to Sasuke that
he is capable of scratching Sasuke's forehead
protector but failed to stop Sasuke from going to
Orochimaru. After the battle Naruto lost
consciousness while Sasuke is still awake looking
at sleeping Naruto. If you would recall, at first
Sasuke has the intent to kill but he wasn't
able to inflict the damage in the final exchange
of jutsu. You will even see that Naruto
wasn't hit by the Chidori while he's
lying down. Therefore, it is also Sasuke's
loss. **Chidori pierces its target but Naruto has
no hole/wound from a chidori attack after the
battle.
Correction. Naruto stated if he had to, he would
break all of Sasuke's limbs and drag him back
to the village by force. So by then, it was all
out between the both of them. And second, Sasuke
said he chose not to end Naruto's life,
stating it was on a whim and was to not seek power
the same way Itachi did. Instead of going through
with the chidori, Sasuke instead slammed his fist
into Naruto's chest. He restates this later
saying "I spared your life on a whim".
So if he wanted to, he could have just killed him
then and there. I mean what, he "killed"
him twice. A chidori through the chest, and then
being falcon dropped. and yeah he did have
the intention to kill naruto, but then decided
against it, wanting to defeat Itachi with his own
way, hence the "sparring his life on a
whim".
I'm fully agreeing with edawg, naruto had no
intention of killing sasuke his intentions were
more to reason with him.
Summoning is
also a ninjutsu and would have made this fight
onesided. As for stamina the Curse mark enhances
the strength of a jutsu using less chakra at the
cost of all the users chakra, so its like -99
chakra = 6 chidori's which i think would
explain why sasuke could use all those techniques.
So in summary stamina was never an issue for
naruto once he used the One-Tails cloak which
heals wounds and replenishes strength.
Sasuke
absolutely did go through with his chidori in that
exchange - the combination of chidori + rasengan
created a huge shockwave that didn't push
either Sasuke or Naruto back because they were in
their enhanced states. While in the midst of this
huge shockwave they chose to exchange physical
blows as well. Sasuke decided to spare Naruto when
standing over him defeated at the end, not in
mid-combat.
As other's have
stated, if anything interfered with Naruto beating
Sasuke it was the fact that he was holding back
since his intention was to rescue Sasuke.
Regardless of how all out their fight was, their
ultimate goals remained unchanged - Sasuke to
kill, and Naruto to rescue. I rather dislike
the idea of trying to compare who's stronger
by using a fight in which neither side has the
same (reversed) goal in the combat. Someone
who is fighting to kill will always have an
advantage over anyone who is not. Examples of
fights that I think really do demonstrate who is
stronger: Naruto vs. Neji Gaara vs. Rock
Lee Madara vs. Minato (Minato was acting as a
protector, and emerged victorious despite having
the disadvantage) Examples of fights that I
think do not demonstrate who is stronger: Naruto vs. Sasuke Gaara vs. Deidara Naruto vs. Pain (Naruto was out to kill, Pain to
capture)
Aside from some fights that
Naruto was in, the only "fair" (used for
lack of a better word) fights I have seen were the
chuunin exams. Otherwise it was always double
teams, interference, endurance matches (one guy
after the next), or just fights between people
with different goals.
I agree when you
state it that way. It seems that the people who
are always wanting to "protect" or
"rescue" tend to hold back a bunch of
their full strength so that they don't
accidentally kill the target, or if they use the
other to protect whoever/whatever it is they
intend to protect. (i.e. Gaara was protecting the
Village whilst fighting Deidara). And I think the
other fights that actually had similar goals
were: Sasuke vs. Danzou
since both
sides had the same goal of killing the other
person. Other than that, yeah, there was
always at least one side having some reason to
hold back their full potential for the sake of the
other person, or for some other reason.
interesting points from both parties my view is
that they are evenly matched, there were a lot of
factors to take into consideration on both sides,
it would seem that naruto wasted a lot of stamina
and chakra trying to catch up to sasuke where as
sasuke was in hibernating state and only when the
battle between kimmimaro and naruto started
venturing on his own but that is not a reason why
he lost. the cursed seal was just an enhancing
element to existing jutsus the user had nothing
extra the same with the nine tails chakra only
enhanced the users abilities. can give a lot more
facts for both sides wouldnt have changed the
outcome.
But still you can't expect to beat someone or
rescue someone without putting your all in. When
you have a strong opponent that is also a reason
why I know they aren't holding back. Sasuke
v.s. Itachi, in that fight Sasuke was aiming to
kill Itachi while Itachi's true goal was to
get Orochimaru out of Sasuke so he woulnd't
be cursed by the curse seal any longer. Though
Itachi wasn't aiming to kill Sasuke he still
put his all into the fight.
Naruto had
to have went his hardest on Sasuke because without
going his hardest the he would have lost even
worse than he did already. Naruto had an objective
and was determined to complete it. Almightywood
your point made since to a certain extent but in
the end I'm still gonna have to say at the
current level Naruto was there was no stopping
Sasuke. But Naruto gave Sasuke a run for his money
so I know he put in everything he had no matter
what...
But still you can't
expect to beat someone or rescue someone without
putting your all in. When you have a strong
opponent that is also a reason why I know they
aren't holding back. Sasuke v.s. Itachi, in
that fight Sasuke was aiming to kill Itachi while
Itachi's true goal was to get Orochimaru out
of Sasuke so he woulnd't be cursed by the
curse seal any longer. Though Itachi wasn't
aiming to kill Sasuke he still put his all into
the fight. Naruto had to have went his
hardest on Sasuke because without going his
hardest the he would have lost even worse than he
did already. Naruto had an objective and was
determined to complete it. Almightywood your point
made since to a certain extent but in the end
I'm still gonna have to say at the current
level Naruto was there was no stopping Sasuke. But
Naruto gave Sasuke a run for his money so I know
he put in everything he had no matter what... But that's just me...
man,you don't have to be THAT
one-sided....Itachi didn't go all out cause
with a swing of susano's sword sasuke would
have been sealed in a jiffy at that state..on top
of that,itachi's vision was lame scince the
beggining of the fight,plus, he was coughing up
blood,which is not exactly a health indicator..
putting that aside,you have to consider
what would happen if naruto had directed the
metal-scraching nail a little lower,like
sasuke's eyes,throat or chest..do you still
think it wouldn't have made a
difference?naruto also had the upper hand before
the full awakening of sasuke's sharingan,and
when he put him down he just tried to reason with
him!on the contrary once sasuke got a hold of
naruto,he pierced a chidori THROUGH HIS CHEST...if
you wanna daydream that this was the full fighting
potential of naruto back then be my guest,but
it's all obvious to a non-prejudiced person..
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