Well, it cant be obito, cuz yea. I thought the
only possibilities are: a) It's madaras
younger brother, or b)It's the first hokage,
and he just stole his eyes when he killed madara.
It has to be some one who's old, and super
powerful, and no, it cant be sasuke's dad,
that would be the most retarded thing ever, and
besides hes not strong enough to do all that crap.
But i still think that the first hokage would b
unlikely, cuz y would he want to take over the
world. And its probably not shisui, even tho its
still a possibility.
My first thoughts are still Madara's brother.
Although there is no proof, nothing says they
couldn't have switched eyes and if so then he
would probably be long lived.
is probably now my second choice, until there is
definite proof of his age he is still a
possibility. With his ultimate Genjutsu control
he could have made Itachi (or anyone for that
matter)believe anything. There is nothing that
says he can't control more than one person at
a time. Just like regular Genjutsu the more
people that look into the eyes the more get
trapped. Also he was pretty pissed when Danzo
destroyed that eye. How is he aware that Danzo
had the eye in the first place? And like I
mentioned before Itachi went to great lengths to
ensure his Sharingan (or face)and Saskue's
I factor Fugaku in because
he could've had the same problem Madara did
when the Senju and Uchiha merged. If he wanted to
fight and the rest of his clan did not, being the
head of the clan he would be pretty pissed. And
there is no telling what his strength level was,
but I bet it was probably impressive. There
aren't too many clan heads out there that
can't hold their own. And its still not clear
if Itachi didn't want Sasuke to see his face
or his Sharingan, so it is possible it's
someone he knows. I am sure there are ways he
could reveal his face to Sasuke without revealing
his Sharingan. Although, this doesn't
explain the apparent age of the Fake Madara we
know there are jutsu out there that can sap
one's strength and youth away.
am still not buying that it can still be Madara
though, what would be the reason behind his aging?
The resurrected Madara still seemed very young
(but edo tensei tends to vary and have some
loopholes) but by his comments he was still alive
when Nagato was born and maybe so far as when they
formed Akatsuki. But if this is the case who
killed him and caused him to split like that?
This had to happen way after his fight with the
First Hokage. How else is he aware of Nagato? And
he didn't know he was resurrected with Edo
Tensei. It seems he thought he was resurrected
using Nagato's outer path. Which so far as I
can tell would mean that he may have been killed
by Nagato (and since the dead can't seem to
tell the passing of time he probably thought he
just bought the farm) or he believed Nagato became
that powerful as to raise him from the dead
regardless of how he died.
The guy had way
too much behind the scenes action going on to not
already be established by the time he went after
the Kyuubi, as evidenced by his control of the
Mizukage. The fact that he knew the ins and outs
of several villages a couple of decades ago means
that he had been operating as a ninja for at least
a decade or so before he went rogue.
The age of the 3rd hokage is something like
50-60 imo, Danzo was like 40-50. Danzo still had
all of his hair color, whereas Hiruzen had none.
The fact that they were both on teams at the same
time doesn't mean that they were the same
age. Danzo also chasing after Hiruzen makes me
think their ages were something similar to Naruto
and Konohomaru, maybe a bit greater a gap.
Teacher to student relationships have
nowhere near the turnover that parent child ones
do. It may be 15-20 years before your child has a
child, but your student could be teaching a couple
of years after you are. So for example Hiruzen
teaches Jiraiya, 5 yrs later, Jiraiya teaches the
4th, 5 years later The 4th teaches Kakashi, 5
years later Kakashi teaches Naruto. That means
that you could potentially have only 15 years pass
before you reach the 4th generation as far as
master and student go. It obviously didn't go
quite this fast as we know there had to have been
at least 13 years between when Kakashi was taught
by the 4th and when Kakashi taught Naruto, but it
does prove that the master student chain is no
real indication of time passage. It could
potentially be less than 5 years between as well,
Naruto has been learning from his masters (Kakashi
and Jiraiya) for only 3 years, and had an
apprentice before he even had a master.
Think of the ninja academy as high school, and
being a ninja as an on the job apprenticeship genin = apprentice chuunin = journeyman jounin = master special jounin = grand
Usually journeyman (chuunin) is
when you start teaching others, and master
(jounin) is when you take on your own apprentices,
but that's not as set in stone here.
.html The guy is at least in his 40s. Itachi
was in his 20s when he died 20-30 years is a good
gap for an uncle.
The fact that the
ninjas adult life starts like 10 years before ours
is throwing your timeframes off a bit I think.
Either way I definitely think he's an
older dude, to try and masquerade as Madara
you'd have to be on the older side of Ninjas.
Hi Almightywood, you have a very good point and
reasonable facts to back it up. But the
possibilities of having it on the other way around
is also probable. Basing it on the normality of
hair color and the Master to student normal age
gap scenario is also a good point. What is common
is always a good point for reasoning. Having a
teammate on the same age range and knowing a
person of same age but looks older than you would
also be quite common. Basing on the looks, not
that sure, but the current Raikage should probably
be the "old look" range of the 4th
Hokage if he is still alive.