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The Secret of the Rinnegan
In the recent chapter, Madara said something about "secret about his body". So my guess would be that somehow it is unique to him(and maybe to his brother also). I'm pertaining to Uchiha + Uzumaki/Senju relationship. Like i posted before what could happen if two clans with such outstanding features marries and have children. With the concept of "bloodline limits", there are bizarre of probabilities.
1. Tobi could have given some Uchiha eyes to Nagato but instead of Sharingan he was able to activate the Rinnegan. Which could also explain why Nagato's eyes didn't return to normal(always in Rinnegan mode) similar to Kakashi Sharingan(can't be deactivated by Kakasshi).
2. Madara's mother(since he led and bear the Uchiha name, it is most likely that it is his father who is an Uchiha) is either Senju/Uzumaki or close related to Senju/Uzumaki.
3. It rules out the Tobi is just another Zetsu/clone. If he is a zetsu then he already has the feature of Senju which can control both Sharingan and Rinnegan from the start and won't be needing Nagato to "contain" the Rinnegan. It was shown in the battle of Tobi Vs Minato that Tobi hasn't fused Senju's cell with his body yet.
4. Nagato's story could be known by Orochimaru and thus did some research which Kabuto pertains when he said about Orochimaru's and his data.
Note: Again these are just theories of mine. I could be wrong. It can right. Whatever Kishi shows in the next chapters it will surely clear things out
1. Tobi could have given some Uchiha eyes to Nagato but instead of Sharingan he was able to activate the Rinnegan. Which could also explain why Nagato's eyes didn't return to normal(always in Rinnegan mode) similar to Kakashi Sharingan(can't be deactivated by Kakasshi).
2. Madara's mother(since he led and bear the Uchiha name, it is most likely that it is his father who is an Uchiha) is either Senju/Uzumaki or close related to Senju/Uzumaki.
3. It rules out the Tobi is just another Zetsu/clone. If he is a zetsu then he already has the feature of Senju which can control both Sharingan and Rinnegan from the start and won't be needing Nagato to "contain" the Rinnegan. It was shown in the battle of Tobi Vs Minato that Tobi hasn't fused Senju's cell with his body yet.
4. Nagato's story could be known by Orochimaru and thus did some research which Kabuto pertains when he said about Orochimaru's and his data.
Note: Again these are just theories of mine. I could be wrong. It can right. Whatever Kishi shows in the next chapters it will surely clear things out
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well we know tobi has both a regular sharingan and
a rinnegan(advanced sharingan) neither of which he
can turn off as well as the 1st dna meaning he
aslo has senju
Posted by hotrich64 2 years ago
madaras mom being a senju or uzimaki makes no
sense. he dosent need that the only thing u would
need the senju blood for as we know it now is the
izangi tech. but i believe that madara or tobi had
a hand in destroying the uzimaki clan the where
dif then the senju the senju had the body of the
great sage while the uzamaki had a great life
force making them live longer. when madara was
brought back to life he didnt look old but was old
enough to know nagato. i think i put uzamki dna in
him
Posted by wombat3476 2 years ago
i think kabuto implanted senju dna in him
Posted by wombat3476 2 years ago
and the battle with the 4th dosent show anything.
he might have just put the eyes in nagato to have
more pawns. and tobi has had the 1st dna for a min
because he said that he has had the dna since
madara fought the 1st. just because u have senju
in u dosent mean u can turn on and of the uchia
eye. it just mean u can use izanagi danzo and both
and couldnt turn off his eyes.
Posted by wombat3476 2 years ago
and the battle with the 4th dosent show anything.
he might have just put the eyes in nagato to have
more pawns. and tobi has had the 1st dna for a min
because he said that he has had the dna since
madara fought the 1st. just because u have senju
in u dosent mean u can turn on and of the uchia
eye. it just mean u can use izanagi danzo and both
and couldnt turn off his eyes.
Posted by wombat3476 2 years ago
Please read Chapter 503 again. You'll see there that Tobi is bleeding after taking Minato's attack. Compare that when he was fought against Danzo's underlings. And about getting more pawns, there should be a reason why he chose Nagato(which more likely because he has what Tobi needs like his family line Uzumaki or could also be something else).
I didn't said anything about needing Senju cells to deactivate Sharingan. What I observed was transplanted Uchiha eyes to non-Uchiha tends to remain at activated mode.Thanks for adding Danzo in the list by the way.
Please read my post again. Seems like you misinterpreted some of my points.
Posted by sempet 2 years ago
Like I said there could be bizzare outcome when two outstanding features(such as bloodline limits like Sharingan and Uzumaki's long life) span) combine. It is also possible that there exist a metaphor in Madara's version of the Rikudo Sennin's story. It might be true that Uchiha and Senju being decendant of the Rikudo Sennin. But it is also possible that he is simply stating that it is possible to achieve the level of Rikudo Sennin if Eyes(Uchiha) and Body(Senju/Uzumaki) combines which is possible when one Uchiha and one Senju/Uzumaki marries and have children(making their children have both the "eyes" and "body" of Rikudo Sennin).
Posted by sempet 2 years ago
well the uchia where hated rivals with the senju
so none of the would have gotten married before
the leaf was created. if he has any of those dna
in him he stole them. plus no one ever talks about
the uzimaki like that. all we know is they have
powerful chakara and long lives thats it nothing
about combining them. the senju bodies are that of
the great sage witch makes there cells specail
and i know about the blood its weird but he was hit with a rasengun so that understandable when he fought donzo he tore his arm off its dif u really cant compare the to
and i know about the blood its weird but he was hit with a rasengun so that understandable when he fought donzo he tore his arm off its dif u really cant compare the to
Posted by wombat3476 2 years ago
It wasn't hated rivals but respected rival. They even founded Konoha. With that in line we can say that there is no grudge between them before, aside from Madara's ambitions and the misunderstanding of Uchiha clan and Konoha AFTER the Kyuubi attack made by Tobi. There is also a possibility that Madara's mother is an outsider(not originally an Uchiha).
Edo Madara said himself that there is a "secret of his body"(even before Kabuto made some modification) which implies that it is unique to him like Hashirama's cells(Hashirama's cells is unique even within the whole clan of Senju coz if not why would they are so fixed on his cells when there are other members of his clan).
The battle of Minato vs Tobi and Danzo's underlings vs Tobi is being used as reference of my arguement simply because it certainly shows that Tobi hasn't fused Hashirama's cells in his body yet when he fought Minato. if he did or if he's just another Zetsu as some claims, it shouldn't be blood that flows as shown when he tore off his arm when he fought Danzo's underlings.
Posted by sempet 2 years ago
on the tobi part why shouldnt there be blood when
tobi get attacked by the 4th? just because u
havent seen zetsu clone not bleed dosent mean tobi
wont danzo bleed and he had senju cells in him
they werent respected rivals till the made the village madara took his brothers eyes specifically to beat the senju they werent friends but they got tired of the blood shed and created the village i am sure madaras mom isnt uchia that would be incest but she isnt senju or uzamki either
they werent respected rivals till the made the village madara took his brothers eyes specifically to beat the senju they werent friends but they got tired of the blood shed and created the village i am sure madaras mom isnt uchia that would be incest but she isnt senju or uzamki either
Posted by wombat3476 2 years ago
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