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benisjamin33
10-01-2006, 04:03 PM
can the sharingan copy element attacks, i mean kakishi copied zabuzas water techniques so does this mean kakishi is both lighting and water elemented or does this mean sharingan can copy any move besides blood limit techniques regardless if you posses the element chakra?

Bobfromjanitorial
10-01-2006, 04:11 PM
There's a difference between water techniques and techiniques that erquire water chakra.
The water attacks Zabuza was doing wasn't water chakra, it was simply using chakra and seals to manipulate the already existing water.
Any ninja who bothered to train themselves in the use of those justsus can learn them.

The Specialist
10-01-2006, 04:24 PM
Well if the Sharingan user has the ability to use that element, then copying it only requires them to memories the hand seals and putting in the exact amont of chakra that is needed. But if they do don't possesse that element, they must train to learn that element first, and also train so their bodies can operate the jutsu correctly. But combining water and wind together to create ice is a bloodline trait, just like comining water and earth together to make wood. So Sharingan can't copy stuff like that. Also jutsus that requires no handseals, are not able to be copied either, they must be learned. It is pure skill. if it is not a bloodline trait it could be learned with training, like the Rasengan.

But jutsus that require's unique skill can't be copied either. Ninjas must have the talent to do it in the first place.

benisjamin33
10-01-2006, 06:24 PM
um i am pretty sure you are born with one or two elements, look at when kakishi is training naruto and 1st explains it. he says you have one in each hand like Yamato were he has earth and water, it is totally by chance like when kakashi hands naruto the paper

UzumakiIchigo
10-01-2006, 06:28 PM
Over time people can become affiliated with multiple elements as you become stronger.
the sharingan can copy any move, However it depends on the users elemental chakra how strong it is.

jasongotti
10-01-2006, 06:46 PM
Over time people can become affiliated with multiple elements as you become stronger.
the sharingan can copy any move, However it depends on the users elemental chakra how strong it is.

i though the sharingan could copy any attack after all it is copying machines

UzumakiIchigo
10-01-2006, 06:47 PM
I just said it could
please read the post thouroughly

curse mark kyuubi uchiha
10-01-2006, 07:10 PM
i think so because kakashi does water and earth that he copied

benisjamin33
10-01-2006, 08:08 PM
Over time people can become affiliated with multiple elements as you become stronger.
the sharingan can copy any move, However it depends on the users elemental chakra how strong it is.

so are you saying anyone can develop any element regardless if they have the sharingan or not and that in the begining you are more powerful in one than the others? actually i just read the training and it now makes sense thanks everyone

SLEezY bAbY
10-01-2006, 08:20 PM
this thread sohuld be locked

ShinobiKnight
10-01-2006, 09:11 PM
Okay, you guys are making this more complicated than it should be, so I'm going to attempt to answer the question clearly. You don't have to be water-element to use water-element attacks. Anyone can use any element jutsu. The only difference a chakra nature makes is that attacks of that element are more powerful. Also, combining chakra natures isn't always a bloodline trait.

The Specialist
10-01-2006, 11:55 PM
Yeah that's true, but creating a new element is not something normal people can do. Combining chakra elements is possible, but to copy a new element that was created from another ninja that requires different chakra natures is probably something the Sharingan can't do.

GAma_Oyabun
10-04-2006, 06:21 PM
ok, before that particular chapter came out, we wouldnt be having this discussion. Sharigan can copy any jutsu other than bloodline limits. that was the definition. elements were introduced later. people with a certain element type can do better in that element. like sasuke is fire and lightning therefore his specialty is in katon and chidori. its just his natural tendency.

MajinX
10-04-2006, 06:27 PM
This thread should be closed, it is already answered. Look at gama's post, the shirangan had already been started it could copy anything except bloodlines, and why are element chakra being brought in??? Chakra and jutsu are not the same... Chakra is just the fuel to run a jutsu, and those who can manipulate their elements into chakra can use that elemental jutsu better or more effectively. I mean naruto didnt no about chakra elements before and i doubt sasuke knew when he was just a 7 year old yet he was able to do fire element jutsu, SO there you go.

uchihamadara
10-04-2006, 08:22 PM
Wrong! the sharingan can copy any jutsu that isn't blood limit or a summoning jutsu.for example kakashi copied kisame's jutsu which is a water jutsu. And he also copied the ice ninja's jutsu in the naruto movie.
When your chakra leans towards an element it just means it is much easier for you to learn a jutsu of that nature,not that that is the only jutsu you can use.now the sharingan bypasses this stage because it has already identified the jutsu and is able to preform it all that is needed is the right amount of chakra.

benisjamin33
10-04-2006, 08:50 PM
thanks for clearing that up, i thought you could only have two elements but i looked back on the training and they explained it but thank you