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Hawk
11-19-2004, 09:46 PM
I believe that the Sharigan is better... for more than one reason...

1. Itachi pretty much proved it...
2. The chidori can only be done by Sharigan users
and many more

quickstrik3
11-19-2004, 09:48 PM
Sharingan is only better when it is the mastered form (forgot what it's called).
Which few have mastered.

Dark Itachi
11-19-2004, 10:03 PM
Well duh few have mastered it, theres only 2 people who TRULY have it, and only one of those people (itachi) have mastered it... Kakashi only has 1/2 of it...

itachi41
11-19-2004, 10:05 PM
although sharingan is developed from the Hyuuga, but sharingan is much better with the 3 legendary jutsus .

Roy Mustang
11-20-2004, 12:58 AM
i dont think u need sharingan to use chidori
but i think byakugan (hyuuga) can see chakra and sharingan uses chakra i think but sharingan can also copy what a even match!! but i'd pick sharingan byakugan(hyuuga) scares me

H_I
11-20-2004, 04:00 AM
Hyuuga =Byukagan!! Any questions.... There is really no debate Neji vs Sasuke Come on for real. Easily Neji.. BUt I Like Itachi Alot, But Hyuuga Much better,

PS Chiordori SUCKS

itachi41
11-20-2004, 04:59 AM
U dont need a sharingan to learn chidori ! *Spoilers* In the lastest chapter of manga (239), we can see kakashi doing chidori with out sharingan

Angelus
11-20-2004, 06:38 AM
Kakashi invented chidori before he recevied the sharingan, so therefore it must be possible for people without sharingan to use it. Also sharingan users should win, as they are able to see the paths in which their oppenents attack and so, people with bykugan won't be able to even touch them

Anto
11-20-2004, 07:32 AM
Uhm... When we look back to episode 46, we hear Kakashi saying that the Byakugan's power exceeds that of Sharingan... they both seem pretty powerful but I think the byakugan is better.

AztecSasuke
11-20-2004, 08:41 AM
Kaskashi says that the byakugan is better. But my in my personal opinion the Sharingan is better. It looks better than the Sharingan and the ability to copy ans stuff is just great. Plus, we still don't know what the Mangenkyou Sharingan can do exactly.

narutsa
11-20-2004, 09:51 AM
sharingan is better after all we all seen itachi prove its power

kei
11-20-2004, 02:29 PM
yup sharigan is better

drbazy1069
11-20-2004, 10:00 PM
lots of people are voting for sharingan but i think hyuuga maybe better. in hyuuga you can see the points where the charka are and disable them and with sharingan you cant do that. plus everyone talks about itachi as being strong but how do you know if hinata's father isnt strong also, i mean he is the leader right now so he must be really strong and he mastered that art

Roy Mustang
11-20-2004, 10:34 PM
hmph its only the uchiha fan ppl saying that sharingan is stronger becuz they are a uchiha fan...*well most* but u know byukagan is like 10% better

shinobi247
11-20-2004, 11:17 PM
now to settle this little debate i have some info for u guys on the sharingan and hyuga so judge for urselves

Hyuga
Advanced Bloodline Limit: The Byakugan

The byakugan is a bloodline based ability only accessible by members of the Hyuga clan. This is the sharingan's predecessor. The byakugan is also a pupil based ability which allows physical, emotional, and mental insight. In terms of insight the byakugan is the most superior of the two. Anyone can recognize it just by looking in the eyes because the Hyuga clan family members all have white eyes. The byakugan itself translates into "white eyes."

The sharingan did evolve from the byakugan but they are two different powers. The byakugan does not possess the ability to mimic techniques. But in spite of that, it is still powerful. Like said before, the byakugan is the most powerful in terms of insight.

The byakugan's fearful and devastating ability is that it can see through almost anything. It contains the ability to see chakra holes and openings. The jyuuken, which is the gentle fist type taijutsu, is incredibly effective when combined with the byakugan. The jyuuken is a taijutsu especially for members of the Hyuga clan to learn. First they activate the byakugan by performing a few hand seals. Then the use it to look through the person physically. This way they can see the chakra circulating through the chakra highway in their opponent's body. Then they attack by using the jyuuken type taijutsu and they make sure that they aim for their opponent's chakra openings. The users of the byakugan basically hit their opponents chakra openings directly and they can either stop the chakra flow or redirect it. This stopping of chakra and redirecting it is done by forcing the byakugan user's own chakra into their opponents chakra openings. The size of t hese holes are extremely minuscule. It is incredible for anyone to actually hit those holes considering that they are so small and that there are 361 points in the chakra highway. This is in terms of power and physical insight.

The byakugan has the power of mental and emotional insight. It can see what the person feels and is thinking at the moment just by reading their physical and outer gestures. For example, if one of the byakugan users looked into the eyes of their opponent, they could read what they are thinking. By reading what they are doing with their hands and other body movements, they can tell what that person wants to do. The insight of the byakugan is amazing and fearful. This is all in terms of it's power in mental and emotional insight.

Another of the byakugan's incredible abilities is that it can see 360 degrees around themselves. This allows them to respond more quickly to oncoming attacks. This also gives the byakugan user's opponent an unusual feeling like that their opponent has eyes on the back of their head. These are the incredible abilities of the byakugan. For all we know, there could be more.

Sharingan
Advanced Bloodline Limit: The Sharingan

The sharingan is a special eye ability that is only apparent in the Uchiha clan. It is an advanced characteristic in the pupil of the person's eyes. It is said that the sharingan evolved from the Byakugan, which is excluded from any possible use by anyone except for members of the Hyuuga clan. In terms of mental, emotional, and physical insight, the Byakugan is far more superior than it's succesor. The sharingan has three semi-colons. It fits well since the sharingan can see through and mimic three types of jutsu, which are ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu.

Although the sharingan does require chakra to activate, it's not considered a ninjutsu. It requires no hand seals to be performed. All the user must do is focus chakra into his/her eyes and the sharingan shall emerge. But to use the sharingan effectively, you have to combine it with other types of diverse jutsus. It's useless on it's own. Therefore, this is the reason why the sharingan ability is only granted to the members of the Uchiha clan that have mastered different ways of fighting.

The sharingan's main ability is the mimicery of other jutus. It will copy any ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu. Of course it can also copy the movements of the opponent by studying him or her carefully. The more times the person uses the sharingan, the more jutsus they copy. If they continue to keep the sharingan out, they will continue to copy jutsus even if it's against their will. It acts automatically like a car alarm. If it sees a jutsu, it starts to act up and acts like a defensive system. Like a car's defensive system is an alarm, the sharingan's defensive system is to copy what they see. Although, the sharingan's accuracy of mimicing the techiniques is high, it doesn't gurantee complete mastery of the jutsu. For incredibly difficult and extremely high-level jutsu, it requires practice. Of course the sharingan can speed up the process. It can first copy what hand seals are required (if any at all) and then all they have to do is find the right amount of chakra to exert. If it's a move that requires no hand seals then all they have to do is exert the right amount of chakra into the right place. If it's a taijutsu technique then they will have no problem with that. They can just remember what movements they copied and practice on that. Another ability is that it can see through illusions. For example if there were many bunshin or Kage bunshin all the sharingan user would see is balls of chakra that look like flames. This allows them to seperate what is real and what isn't.

Another ability of the sharingan is the ability to supposedly look into the future. In other words, they can trick they're opponents into thinking that they are fighting a seer. It's just an illusion. A series of different steps are used to create this illusion. First the user makes it seem that they can read minds by using a hypnotic genjutsu and copying their opponents thoughts. For all these steps to work the user and the opponent must make eye-contact. Same goes for the movement copying. The user of the sharingan stares their opponent in the eyes while copying all their movements. The most important thing for a person that does this to do is to make eye-contact.

The sharingan uses up a lot of chakra. However, this only applies if the sharingan user is not of the Uchiha clan. Since they don't have the right blood, they can't use it as effectively and they get exhausted more easiy then members of the Uchiha clan. For example, Kakashi gets exhausted quickly everytime he uses his sharingan. However, Neither Itachi nor Sasuke feel the same way. They are both members of the Uchiha clan so they have a direct heritage of the sharingan. Pretty much, blood plays a big role in the chakra usage of the sharingan. If you have the right blood, you don't get tired easily. If you don't have the right blood then be more careful when you use the sharingan.

The sharingan also many disadvantages such as speed. It can't see speed very well because most of the time it's not chakra based speed. It's harder for users of the sharingan to see speed. That's what makes taijutsu a dangerous enemy to it. Combining taijutsu and speed will give an advantage over the sharingan. Therefore, the sharingan user will have lots of trouble seeing their enemies come at them. Another weakness of the sharingan is that it can't copy bloodline based jutsus. It's just not theirs to copy. Basically, physical combat is the most dangerous to the sharingan. It's not only unpredictable but almost unstoppable for sharingan users. However, it's wickedly powerful in the areas of copying ninjutsu and genjutsu.

There is another sharingan abilty. So far it's been used twice by Itachi. The focus of this genjutsu is to cause a breakdown in someone's mind and spirit. The name of this genjutsu is Mange-sharingan. First Itachi looks at his opponent in the eyes. He then chooses a form of torture or a past event that hurt that person the most. Also Itachi can make the person feel a certain amount of time in an instant. For example, Itachi uses a form of torture on Kakashi. Itachi made Kakashi think that he was really getting katanas shoved into himself. Itachi, being the master of the illision was doing all the shoving. Itachi also made it seem to him that it felt like 72 hours (three days). In a form of a past memory, Itachi made Sasuke relive the day their parents were killed by Itachi. This only lasted for 24 hours. This genjutsu causes a lot of pain that lingers around for a while. However, it's also apparently dangerous to Itachi as well. He can't seem to use it much because it could be fatal.

Roy Mustang
11-20-2004, 11:24 PM
shinobi...UR MY HERO STUDY PARTNER

neji
11-20-2004, 11:25 PM
byakugan with out a dout is better the ability to shut of chakara control is un serpasable by anyone without a demon in ther stumache, and on the chidori issue kakashi invented the jitsu useing his special abilitys and technics only a sharigan user can lern the chidori becouse it is unteachable u would need to copy it to lern it.

shinobi247
11-20-2004, 11:31 PM
shinobi...UR MY HERO STUDY PARTNER
hehe thanx, i'm jus glad i could shine some light on the whole topic

Trunksb88
11-20-2004, 11:34 PM
whatever don't you know that the sharingan kicks ass because when u copy u can remeber all the ninjustu so BOOYAH!

neji
11-20-2004, 11:42 PM
the ability to copy jitsu is nothing in comparison to the ability to stop jitsu

itachi41
11-20-2004, 11:55 PM
THe sharingan has another 2 more jutsus other then the moon reader (genjutsu used by itachi on kakashi and sasuke)! THey are all caused by the mangekyou sharingan ! One of it is the black fire jutsu ! Remember when Itachi and Kisame tried to escape Jiraiya's technique (the frog tummy)! Itachi used the black fire jutsu ! Yes, there is 1 more unknown jutsu ! But using too much times may prove fatal to the user !

shikamaru
11-21-2004, 08:26 AM
Sharingan by a mile it is so much better

Hooded_Ninja
11-21-2004, 11:27 AM
Does the Byakugan also take up chakra? If not, I would most definetly take the byakugan! It just has amazing abilities. You can do far more with it I believe.

Shak
11-21-2004, 02:13 PM
Byakugan is better...

1) Kakashi admitted it
2) We havent seen yet if Byakugan has any "special" techniques, like the sharigan does
3) You can see almost 360 degrees
4) You can see tenketsu points, you can control your opponent's flow of chakra

Sharingan may have some cool features but it doesnt beat the Byakugan...but this debate can go forever.

GoldenEyes
11-21-2004, 03:04 PM
I would have to say Sharingan. In theory Byukagon is better, but there is one flaw in it. Supposedly the user can see 360 deg, but thats not the case. There is one blind spot. Therefore I have to say a fully mastered Sharingan would outclass the fully mastered Byukagon

Lol, Neji I can't believe your using that sig. I made that on DA a while ago (I see you added a stock on the left). Its a pretty crappy background. W/e I'm glad someones getting use out of that.

swordmasterdrg
11-21-2004, 10:43 PM
Here's my take on it: People talk about the Hyuuga Tai-jutsu style and how it can block off your chakura flow. There's one thing in there that gives the shringan an advantage. The sharingan allows you to see through the attack. Anyone with any talent would be able to use that aspect of the sharingan to aviod any incoming attacks. Also, the sharingan is a strong Genjutsu tool. All that a master sharingan user would have to do is to make eye contact with his opponent, and its over. This could be potentially deadly espically for a Byukagan user. The genjutsu aspects of the Sharingan haven't been fully explained yet. It's an illusion that fools the brain. And since that the Byukagan allows a user to see all around, it would be impossible for them not to make contact with the Sharingan while using it. So, it is my opion that the Sharingan is superior. Also, why would Orochimaru be after Sasuke and not Neji if the Byukagan was superior to the Sharingan?

itachi41
11-21-2004, 11:01 PM
Hey guyz have u ever seen some body with a fully mastered byukugan if not how can u compare it with a fully mastered sharingan

spiral_vortex
11-21-2004, 11:08 PM
Byakugan is better...

1) Kakashi admitted it
2) We havent seen yet if Byakugan has any "special" techniques, like the sharigan does
3) You can see almost 360 degrees
4) You can see tenketsu points, you can control your opponent's flow of chakra

Sharingan may have some cool features but it doesnt beat the Byakugan...but this debate can go forever.

i agree with shak byakugan is far superior didn't u see see the whirly gig thing that hiashi or was it hizashi did at the chuunin exem?? perfect defense guys

lito
11-22-2004, 06:59 AM
i think sharingan is better as seen in the episodes but there could be lots of things that the byakugan can do if they say the the hyuuga is the strongest in konoha right but come to think of it the uchiha does not exist anymore... wouldnt it be cool if there was a "forbiden" type of byakugan just like there is in a sharingan?? just a thought :]

swordmasterdrg
11-22-2004, 07:18 AM
Look at it this way: That sharingan evolved from the byakugan right? Usually when something evolves, it's for the better.

lito
11-22-2004, 10:03 AM
maybe but if was really a true evolution it would retain the good attributes but if you look at it it seems theres no trace of its connection w/ the byakugan except that it is accessed through the eyes... :]

Makenshi
11-22-2004, 10:36 AM
I think that basicly both are very good only the way to use them is different, i think the Byakugan would be more usefull to "melee" Taijutsu user since your main attack are closed ranged you can while doing damage to your opponent block his chakra, as for the Sharingan it would be better for the Gaijutsu and Ninjutsu user since they can copy them and since its better used in ranged than in closed position

swordmasterdrg
11-22-2004, 12:52 PM
Although the sharingan is not pushover when it comes to close combat as Sasuke showed when he used it in the fight against naruto.

Aruko
11-22-2004, 03:15 PM
wow! i have heard stunning arguements from both sides of the fence.
But not being a favorer of the uchiha clan but as a favorer of sharingan. i think that answers your question. nice fight byakugan lovers but i will not be swayed today.

Angelus
11-22-2004, 06:00 PM
Wasn't the uchiha clan the strongest in the leaf before so doesn't that mean the the sharingan was better than the byakugan??

Makenshi
11-22-2004, 07:43 PM
I dont think the Uchiha was the strongest only because of theyr Sharigan, maybe theyr other techniques was stronger or maybe they where smarter fighter and that gave them some advantage

Roy Mustang
11-22-2004, 08:13 PM
I dont think the Uchiha was the strongest only because of theyr Sharigan, maybe theyr other techniques was stronger or maybe they where smarter fighter and that gave them some advantage
i agree as u can see sasgay (omg im actually saying this) is actually very smart so is itachi

Tictok
11-25-2004, 11:42 AM
I think Sharigan is better and stronger..

SylentChaos
11-25-2004, 11:44 AM
Sharingan, Even though sharingan cant copy another bloodline's techniques, but should have the ability to "DODGE/BLOCK" their techniques with ease.

Sharingan GOT MY VOTE!

Orochimaru
11-26-2004, 08:55 PM
(first post...wooot?)
what you need is a hypothetical scenario. Itachi vs. the leader of the Hyuuga clan. The leader rushes towards itachi, itachi stares into his eyes and either performs one of three moves. 1.Keleidoscope(talked about by Itachi and Kakashi in episode 82, and the reason no one but Kakashi had their eyes open. One can further assume that this move is instant death, from they way they talk about it.)2.Tsukuyomi(kills the guy through mental torture...kakashi admits Itachi could have killed him with that move if he so wished)3.Amaterasu(Hyuuga leader bursts into black flames). As to the argument that the hyuuga may also have similar moves....well lets just base this on what we have seen each eye do... Plus when kakashi says that the byakugan may be better then the sharingan... he refers to the point of actually being able to see. The byukugan can see through stuff(yes that is very cool....VERY cool) and see even the smallest things. However this does not mean that sharingan has problems seeing speed.... just making out details, especially on fast moving targets. The sharingan can see the chakra points but just cant focus on them while the enemy is moving, therefore making the byakugan much better for that purpose. We can also assume that there are stages in the development of the sharingan, while there are none for the byakugan... this can be taken from the fact that sasuke never had his sharingans until he fought haku, but in a flashback neji did have them when he was like 3(or 6....well a really young age)

P.S. can you guys see my tag, i dont really know how to upload it(nervous laugh)

goch1988
11-26-2004, 11:23 PM
Sharingan is way better...coz it can copy the skills...just like kakashi~~

spiral_vortex
11-26-2004, 11:43 PM
well the byakugan mainly focuses on defensive fighting and as soon as they get close enough to the byakugans divination its almost impossible to escape....and plus you know the chidori rite?? bout its made of pure chakra well soo is the whirlygig thing that sum hyuuga members know ....like hiashi you can expell soo much chakra from your body so well perfect defense...i think i mentioned this already but byakugan is far superior they always want the enemy to make the first move unless if its sumtin important and they know it will be an easy victory like wen hiashi killed the lightin nin trin ta capture hinata

Sasuke
11-26-2004, 11:46 PM
Sharingan is much better.

spiral_vortex
11-26-2004, 11:52 PM
holy shit your pikture is taking a huge chunk of your sig space there buddy and actually amke good arguements

sharigan : see where your opponent is bouts to go
byakugan : sees about almost everything except bout the future......

swordmasterdrg
11-28-2004, 02:41 AM
The sharingan can't see chakara points, what it's makes it so strong is it's ability to predicit what is going to happen and the ability to copy jutsu

horus
11-30-2004, 06:30 PM
Sharingan wins hands down. Neji can't beat itachi nobody in their clan can beat itachi.

SonicAdvDX
11-30-2004, 07:06 PM
I would have to say Byakugan, too. For the reasons that Shak mentioned and because I'm not a big Sasuke fan...

spiral_vortex
11-30-2004, 07:48 PM
well if you dont like sasuke that doesn't mean u have to not like sharingan sharingan is pretty cool but byakugan is just too superior and cool

Ichiga
12-01-2004, 05:46 AM
hyuuga is the best

SonicAdvDX
12-01-2004, 04:17 PM
Yeah. Even though Sharingan might be pretty good, Hyuuga can do most of that stuff and you can close tenketsus. Unless, of course, you're fighting Naruto. ^_^

templar
12-02-2004, 01:28 AM
I think Shringan is more valuable since Orochimaro is after it and not after Byakugan. Which proves my point.

Roy Mustang
12-02-2004, 02:56 AM
orochimaru is only after it because sasuke and itachi has it and he's only intrested in sasuke he never seen byakugan eighther..

issuedman
12-02-2004, 11:48 PM
I think Orochimaru is after it only so he can copy the moves easier instead of having to study them. I personally think Byakugan is stronger cuz when Hizashi (or Hiashi) uses it when Konoha getting attacked by the sand people and just man handles them all with the twirly thing. And its like 20 times bigger than Neji's.

shinobi247
12-04-2004, 11:57 AM
well u do have a point there dat orochimaru does want the sharingan so he can copy jutsus cuz if u remember dat wuz his dream to learn every jutsu there wuz, but it's more of mental vs physical aspects in dat byakugan is more offensive and the sharingan is more bout mental pain like the mangekyou sharingan dat itachi uses

swordmasterdrg
12-17-2004, 12:27 AM
What in the world makes you think that Orochimaru has never seen the byakugan? He was once a LEAF ninja. He lived in Kohona for many a year. Something tells me that he's seen the byakugan at some point......

itachi41
12-17-2004, 01:37 AM
well byakugan is stronger ... sharingan originated from it remember ... anyway ... byakugan is better to those who lyk to use taijutsu and sharingan is better for those lazy ppl who are too lazy to practice jutsus the hard way n wanted to copy them n learn it the easy way ...

nma
12-17-2004, 10:56 AM
Whoa, are people actually comparing Neji to Itachi. How the hell can you do that. Try comparing him(Itachi) to Hiashi, and you'll find out that Itachi will get his a$$ handed to him on a silver platter. Who cares about the Mangekyou is the Hyuuga is staring at you chakra holes. Remember when Neji was fighting Naruto, all he saw was Naruto's outline and his chakra holes and pathways. He didnt even see his eyes. If I remember correctly, the Mangekyou needs eye contact to work if you dont have eye contact with Itachi, it wont work. Oh and somebody said that the Byakugan has a small blind spot behind the head. That was just Neji, I bet that Hinata has a much bigger blind spot than Neji, and Hiashi has none at all. Its like how Sasuke has only 2 dots and Itachi has 3.

GoldenEyes
12-17-2004, 04:50 PM
WTF are you talking about??? Itachi get his ass handed to him? Everyone, even Orochimaru, admits that Itachi is the strongest shinobi out there. And the blind spot may be different, they never said that it was for everyone, but it was definately implied through Neji's experience. And it doesn't only see the outline of a person. It all depends on how deep the user looks. They could be looking at the surrounding area, or they can look through a person and see their tenketsus.

nma
12-17-2004, 04:59 PM
And it doesn't only see the outline of a person. It all depends on how deep the user looks. They could be looking at the surrounding area, or they can look through a person and see their tenketsus.
Which is what they would do if they were fighting a sharingan user. As for the whole Itachi getting his ass handed to him part, I was exagerating a bit. But i really think that Hiashi could beat him. He killed the Raikage in like 2 seconds, thats strong.

issuedman
12-19-2004, 01:52 AM
you know... that would actually be a pretty damn good fight to see. that would be the perfect example to see who is better of the two, hyuuga or uchiha. i woudl love to see a filler with those two fighting each other.

hotohori
12-19-2004, 06:54 AM
Which is what they would do if they were fighting a sharingan user. As for the whole Itachi getting his ass handed to him part, I was exagerating a bit. But i really think that Hiashi could beat him. He killed the Raikage in like 2 seconds, thats strong.

hey what do you mean, he killed the Raikage? :confused: But yeah, I agree with you, I think the byakugan user would only not stare at the sharingan user's eyes and he wont be defeated by the sharingan. Plus, remember how some of you said that the byakugan is best used with taijutsu (or something to that effect)? And recall that the worst enemy of a sharingan is someone really fast and really good with taijutsu. So imagine Hiashi with really fast speed (like maybe Lee's without weights) going against Itachi. I think Hiashi would definitely win. ;)

nma
12-19-2004, 09:28 AM
hey what do you mean, he killed the Raikage? :confused:
The guy who tried to kidnap Hinata was the Raikage. It was in the flashback at the end of episode 61.

itachi41
12-19-2004, 11:13 AM
he's not the raikage hes jus a jounin and wanted to talk peace wif konoha but his village instructed him to go make peace but secretly ask him to kidnap hinata to discover the secret of byakugan ... n hes jus a normal jounin nt raikage

nma
12-19-2004, 11:26 AM
he's not the raikage hes jus a jounin and wanted to talk peace wif konoha but his village instructed him to go make peace but secretly ask him to kidnap hinata to discover the secret of byakugan ... n hes jus a normal jounin nt raikage
He's the Raikage. Neji keeps refering to him as the country of the Cloud's head ninja. Head ninja = Kage right? At least in the 5 great villages. I took a screenshot of it, check it out. http://photobucket.com/albums/v449/nma/?action=view&current=bscap032.jpg.

itachi41
12-20-2004, 02:57 AM
oh ok im stumpted ... but the raikage shldnt be killed so fast i think ... well at least he's the kage ...

nma
12-20-2004, 11:58 AM
Thats why I think that Hiashi could beat Itachi. I hit from the gentle fist could kill.

hotohori
12-21-2004, 12:14 AM
oh ok im stumpted ... but the raikage shldnt be killed so fast i think ... well at least he's the kage ...

Yeah, I agree with you Itachi41.. besides, shouldnt the Raikage be wearing one of those "Kage hats" (like the ones we saw that the Hokage and Kazekage were wearing)? when that Cloud Ninja guys was featured when he was like being welcomed in Konoha, he was just wearing normal ninja clothes (hehe.. this is a pretty weak argument, I know). :p

itachi41
12-21-2004, 12:34 AM
but i think he shlb be a ninja that commands everybody by the orders of the raikage ... meaning raikage ask him to command the other ninjas in that village ... he shld be the 2nd strongest ninja ... and the 1st strongest is the raikage ..

brent_d
12-28-2004, 08:56 AM
Sharingan is better,because it could anticipate movements unlike the byakuugan.What's the use of closing the chakra holes if movements of a Hyuuga can be anticipated by an Uchiha.

Kel
12-28-2004, 06:23 PM
Byakugan > Sharingan

Easy as that.

noxide
12-28-2004, 06:52 PM
Sharingan is better,because it could anticipate movements unlike the byakuugan.What's the use of closing the chakra holes if movements of a Hyuuga can be anticipated by an Uchiha.

If the hyuuga is faster than the uchiha then the uchiha cant counter. Like lee says to sasuke even if you cacn see my movement with the sharingan your body doesn't have the speed to keep up with mine

heartthrob_god
12-28-2004, 09:02 PM
I believe the Byakugan is better since it can manipulate the chakra flow of the user's opponent and it has a good defense capabilities

Thunder_boy
12-29-2004, 01:05 AM
Depends who the user is. Itachi could personally take out the clan. But if you gave Neji years of practice then he could take out the sharigan. Depends on the user basicly.

shojogirl
12-30-2004, 01:56 AM
Sharingan. there is nothing else to say.

schuldich_sunde
12-30-2004, 10:55 AM
Hm...I think Byakugan is better because it offers much more insight into your opponent. Isn't that what makes/breaks a fight? Knowing your opponent...

Willis
12-30-2004, 01:13 PM
Sharingan in my opinion is better...

1. Sharingan can copy techniques.
2. Allow user to learn moves quicker and apply to their situation.
3. See through taijutsu/genjutsu/ninjutsu and see what the opponent is going to do next.
4. It comes in three levels (I think, I forgot)

The Byakugan is great and allows the user to see 360 degrees, but it's main use is to see the opponents tenketsu points and grant him/her the power to hit all the points. I don't know much about this stuff, I'm just making a guess hehe, so please correct me if I'm wrong somewhere :)

issuedman
12-30-2004, 06:56 PM
good points... but seeing through the moves dont matter if their bodies cannot react fast enough. and the byakugan has different levels too... well sorta, they just have to train to use it to the fullest. just like every other ability.

byfuzzerabbit
12-30-2004, 07:44 PM
Sharingan can't copy Advanced Bloodlines and Byakugan kick butt because in the eps they say things every now and then about Byakugan being stronger

nelsonkong
12-30-2004, 08:46 PM
Yes, i think Sharigan is better. It can copy almost all jutsu.

nelsonkong
12-30-2004, 08:46 PM
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nelsonkong
12-30-2004, 08:49 PM
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nma
12-30-2004, 10:41 PM
Byakugan. The Jyuuen can kill you with one hit.
How you guys insert the picture in? Is that just copy and paste in the message. Or put that in anywhere?? Kindly advise.
You have to upload the image first and then paste the url inside the text box and then put image tags, these things , around it.

xratedjm
12-31-2004, 03:48 AM
ha wow byaakugan is by far the better eye i mean see the chakra holes and then if u place too much chakra in the person at one point you can cause serious or fatal injuries look at the episode with hinata and neji they even said it...pure internal damage its by far the best so what itachis sharingan can look into your past and make u relive torture but its done by eye contact..hence kakashi told the other to closse their eyes durring the fight against him so then a blind taijutsu expert could destroy their ass..thats a dumb technique

Malik4874
01-01-2005, 05:53 AM
sharingan will definitely win.

RadioHostage
01-01-2005, 08:14 PM
just a comment here, what if the sharingan COPIED byakugan?

not likely I know, lol, just an interesting comment

nma
01-01-2005, 08:27 PM
just a comment here, what if the sharingan COPIED byakugan?

not likely I know, lol, just an interesting comment
It can't. The Sharingan can't copy bloodline jutsu's.

crewshiukaz
01-02-2005, 01:01 PM
Well Neji would probably beat the shit out of sasuke but I think sharingan is waaaay better :)

crewshiukaz
01-02-2005, 01:04 PM
well what do you know changed my mind :D Byakugan`s better :D it has the ultimate defense and a wicked ability to close chakra flow :D rock on Byakugan :D

itachi41
01-03-2005, 05:07 AM
dude double posting is not allowed ... besides i think byakugan will win because sharingan is developed from byakugan

prowse
01-04-2005, 12:25 PM
sharringan is much better in many aspect but it uses a lot of chakra i presumed (i remember kakashi saying that it drains life out the user little by little..) but i would prefer byakugan it can see through anything >_< (what if ero sennin would have byakugan?)

kakashi_00x000
01-05-2005, 11:41 AM
I think Sharingan is better. and kakashi used chidori before he got his sharingan eye. so it can't only be used by sharingan users.

orochimoru
01-05-2005, 06:12 PM
i would have to say sharingan because it can copy,absorb and if mastered it can do the aksunake or whatever its called like when he used it on kakashi, however bakugen can see all chackra points and release chakra from them. overall i think sharingan wins in the long run.

orochimoru
01-05-2005, 06:15 PM
yes i completly agree with schuldich,orochimaru would be after it, if it was better

noxide
01-05-2005, 06:54 PM
yes i completly agree with schuldich,orochimaru would be after it, if it was better

Well do you even know why orochimaru wants the sharingan? It because he wants to know every technique in the world. He wouldn't care if byakugan was better because it would be completely useless to his goal

prowse
01-05-2005, 06:59 PM
Well do you even know why orochimaru wants the sharingan? It because he wants to know every technique in the world. He wouldn't care if byakugan was better because it would be completely useless to his goal

got a point there.. like what the 3rd said he was obsessed w/ jutsu!! you can't jaz ignore that fact!!! and in the modern world sharinggan is useless(almost)

noxide
01-05-2005, 07:05 PM
If U Had The Sharingan Or Byakugan In The Mordern World People Would Think You Are A Freak Although You Kinda Are

Meteorain27
01-05-2005, 07:30 PM
It really depends on the Sharingan/Byakugan user's style of fighting. Sharingan users could "bomb" the Byakugan user (I'll make B user B, and S user S) with jutsus such as Grand Fireball and Mystcial Fire Flower (I really don't think that the Divination Field could block it, and if it could, remember how fast Sasuke used Mystical Fire Flower against Orochi in the Chuunin Exam. If B got to S, then it would depend on the lvl of S's Sharingan. Lvl. 2 would probably get hit, but lvl. 3 would probably use the ability to predict movements to dodge and counter attack.
I think that if Itachi would face Hiashi, then Hiashi would lose. Itachi's Mangekyou allows him to use the Black Fire (forget name). I doubt Hiashi could block it, even Jiraiya said the fire was unusual. (don't get me wrong, there's a chance Hiashi could, but I just doubt it, that fire seems like it is unusual in more than one way.)

SIDE NOTE: Sasuke would beat Neji, even if Sasuke didn't have lvl.3 Sharingan. Sasuke is faster than Neji and could probably have a good fight with Neji.

prowse
01-05-2005, 07:41 PM
SIDE NOTE: Sasuke would beat Neji, even if Sasuke didn't have lvl.3 Sharingan. Sasuke is faster than Neji and could probably have a good fight with Neji.

lolz that will be true!! but i would love to watch it... it's nt gonna happen though... imagine sharinggan vs byakugan!! it would be great if you would their both power up potentials!!

HYUGAA Gambit
01-05-2005, 08:06 PM
Byakugan would win when sasuke came at him he could just hit him in the head and kill him instantly!

itachi41
01-06-2005, 03:58 AM
lolz that will be true!! but i would love to watch it... it's nt gonna happen though... imagine sharinggan vs byakugan!! it would be great if you would their both power up potentials!!

yea it would be one awesome fight ... although sasuke has the speed he cant keep it up for long ... neji is good too ...

noxide
01-06-2005, 04:32 AM
if sasuke and neji did fight saskue would win cos of his curse seal but if he didn't have it neji would win because his moves are more powerful

DoctorPepper
01-06-2005, 07:13 AM
I am with Byakugan. And orochimaru doesnt want it just because there is no use of it without a skill. So u can see all those pories, but u still cant hit them. Sharingan is just much easier to use.

GoldenEyes
01-06-2005, 04:25 PM
I think after the last episode people will agree that the byukagon is not as good as they once thought

prowse
01-06-2005, 05:07 PM
if you'll ask me sharinggan is dread useful in naruto's world but useless in the real worlld but byakugan is still useful in the real world except for you will look like a freak in white eyes!!

noxide
01-06-2005, 05:57 PM
not to mention the veins going into urer eyes

keven702
01-06-2005, 06:02 PM
i think sharingan is better becuz he can see "the FUTURE" if that true...

horus
01-06-2005, 06:52 PM
But You Can Look In Side Girls Clothes*snickers*

solk
01-06-2005, 07:11 PM
The byakugan is the father of the sharingan, meaning that the sharingan comes from the byakugan.
It was said by kakashi in an episode which i don't remember (during the chuunin exam) that the byakugan is an advanced form of the sharingan, therefor more powerful.

blzr
01-06-2005, 09:20 PM
i say Sharigan is better than Byakuga. Sharigan can copy move but Byakugan can only
see the chakra line inside the body

GoldenEyes
01-06-2005, 11:01 PM
The byakugan is the father of the sharingan, meaning that the sharingan comes from the byakugan.
It was said by kakashi in an episode which i don't remember (during the chuunin exam) that the byakugan is an advanced form of the sharingan, therefor more powerful.
This is true, it is believe to be more powerful. But imagine if everyone knew its weakness. They would be screwed. Also, the stronger the fighter the more affective the Sharingan is. And just because the Sharingan originated friom the byakugan doesn't mean its weaker. There is this thing called evolution...

uchiha_itachi10
01-07-2005, 12:00 AM
The Sharingan is much better , everybody who agreed with the sharingan in this thread pretty much proved it so im with them Sharingan

itachi41
01-07-2005, 02:35 AM
This is true, it is believe to be more powerful. But imagine if everyone knew its weakness. They would be screwed. Also, the stronger the fighter the more affective the Sharingan is. And just because the Sharingan originated friom the byakugan doesn't mean its weaker. There is this thing called evolution...

hmmm for once dis guy makes sense ... yea evolution is somewad cool ... and its not just cool ... it makes it stronger

i think sharingan is better becuz he can see "the FUTURE" if that true...

its not really seeing the future its just predicting your opponent's next move ... which really sounds like psychic ... :D :)

hotohori
01-07-2005, 07:26 AM
Yeah, Sharingan can't really SEE the future. Sharinggan users just make their opponents think they can. How? The Sharinggan (with three dots) has this ability to see some sort of chakra flow in their opponent's body that tells the Sharinggan user what the opponent's next move is gonna be (refer to the manga - spoiler: this is demonstrated in Naruto and Sasuke's fight when Sasuke "awakened" his third dot and also in the Gaiden when Obito says something like seeing the chakra flow in Rin's body). Another way is that the Sharinggan has this hypnotic ability where you "suggest" to the opponent what technique he should make, then execute it at the same time as your opponent or even faster than your opponent, and make him think you are seeing what he will do in the future. Zabuza explains this better than me when he "returns from the dead", hehehe. :)

Matonly1T
01-07-2005, 01:23 PM
Heres my opinion
Byakugan is good = gives u 360 vision, is bad = a blindspot
Sharingan is good = lets u copy peoples moves, causes illusions, and one more thing (slipped my mind) = is bad when zabuza used 'Mist Concealment' he couldnt see or copy anything had to resort to cute ninja dogs.

my overall opinion is Sharingan better

kakashi_00x000
02-01-2005, 04:51 PM
now to settle this little debate i have some info for u guys on the sharingan and hyuga so judge for urselves

Hyuga
Advanced Bloodline Limit: The Byakugan

The byakugan is a bloodline based ability only accessible by members of the Hyuga clan. This is the sharingan's predecessor. The byakugan is also a pupil based ability which allows physical, emotional, and mental insight. In terms of insight the byakugan is the most superior of the two. Anyone can recognize it just by looking in the eyes because the Hyuga clan family members all have white eyes. The byakugan itself translates into "white eyes."

The sharingan did evolve from the byakugan but they are two different powers. The byakugan does not possess the ability to mimic techniques. But in spite of that, it is still powerful. Like said before, the byakugan is the most powerful in terms of insight.

The byakugan's fearful and devastating ability is that it can see through almost anything. It contains the ability to see chakra holes and openings. The jyuuken, which is the gentle fist type taijutsu, is incredibly effective when combined with the byakugan. The jyuuken is a taijutsu especially for members of the Hyuga clan to learn. First they activate the byakugan by performing a few hand seals. Then the use it to look through the person physically. This way they can see the chakra circulating through the chakra highway in their opponent's body. Then they attack by using the jyuuken type taijutsu and they make sure that they aim for their opponent's chakra openings. The users of the byakugan basically hit their opponents chakra openings directly and they can either stop the chakra flow or redirect it. This stopping of chakra and redirecting it is done by forcing the byakugan user's own chakra into their opponents chakra openings. The size of t hese holes are extremely minuscule. It is incredible for anyone to actually hit those holes considering that they are so small and that there are 361 points in the chakra highway. This is in terms of power and physical insight.

The byakugan has the power of mental and emotional insight. It can see what the person feels and is thinking at the moment just by reading their physical and outer gestures. For example, if one of the byakugan users looked into the eyes of their opponent, they could read what they are thinking. By reading what they are doing with their hands and other body movements, they can tell what that person wants to do. The insight of the byakugan is amazing and fearful. This is all in terms of it's power in mental and emotional insight.

Another of the byakugan's incredible abilities is that it can see 360 degrees around themselves. This allows them to respond more quickly to oncoming attacks. This also gives the byakugan user's opponent an unusual feeling like that their opponent has eyes on the back of their head. These are the incredible abilities of the byakugan. For all we know, there could be more.

Sharingan
Advanced Bloodline Limit: The Sharingan

The sharingan is a special eye ability that is only apparent in the Uchiha clan. It is an advanced characteristic in the pupil of the person's eyes. It is said that the sharingan evolved from the Byakugan, which is excluded from any possible use by anyone except for members of the Hyuuga clan. In terms of mental, emotional, and physical insight, the Byakugan is far more superior than it's succesor. The sharingan has three semi-colons. It fits well since the sharingan can see through and mimic three types of jutsu, which are ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu.

Although the sharingan does require chakra to activate, it's not considered a ninjutsu. It requires no hand seals to be performed. All the user must do is focus chakra into his/her eyes and the sharingan shall emerge. But to use the sharingan effectively, you have to combine it with other types of diverse jutsus. It's useless on it's own. Therefore, this is the reason why the sharingan ability is only granted to the members of the Uchiha clan that have mastered different ways of fighting.

The sharingan's main ability is the mimicery of other jutus. It will copy any ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu. Of course it can also copy the movements of the opponent by studying him or her carefully. The more times the person uses the sharingan, the more jutsus they copy. If they continue to keep the sharingan out, they will continue to copy jutsus even if it's against their will. It acts automatically like a car alarm. If it sees a jutsu, it starts to act up and acts like a defensive system. Like a car's defensive system is an alarm, the sharingan's defensive system is to copy what they see. Although, the sharingan's accuracy of mimicing the techiniques is high, it doesn't gurantee complete mastery of the jutsu. For incredibly difficult and extremely high-level jutsu, it requires practice. Of course the sharingan can speed up the process. It can first copy what hand seals are required (if any at all) and then all they have to do is find the right amount of chakra to exert. If it's a move that requires no hand seals then all they have to do is exert the right amount of chakra into the right place. If it's a taijutsu technique then they will have no problem with that. They can just remember what movements they copied and practice on that. Another ability is that it can see through illusions. For example if there were many bunshin or Kage bunshin all the sharingan user would see is balls of chakra that look like flames. This allows them to seperate what is real and what isn't.

Another ability of the sharingan is the ability to supposedly look into the future. In other words, they can trick they're opponents into thinking that they are fighting a seer. It's just an illusion. A series of different steps are used to create this illusion. First the user makes it seem that they can read minds by using a hypnotic genjutsu and copying their opponents thoughts. For all these steps to work the user and the opponent must make eye-contact. Same goes for the movement copying. The user of the sharingan stares their opponent in the eyes while copying all their movements. The most important thing for a person that does this to do is to make eye-contact.

The sharingan uses up a lot of chakra. However, this only applies if the sharingan user is not of the Uchiha clan. Since they don't have the right blood, they can't use it as effectively and they get exhausted more easiy then members of the Uchiha clan. For example, Kakashi gets exhausted quickly everytime he uses his sharingan. However, Neither Itachi nor Sasuke feel the same way. They are both members of the Uchiha clan so they have a direct heritage of the sharingan. Pretty much, blood plays a big role in the chakra usage of the sharingan. If you have the right blood, you don't get tired easily. If you don't have the right blood then be more careful when you use the sharingan.

The sharingan also many disadvantages such as speed. It can't see speed very well because most of the time it's not chakra based speed. It's harder for users of the sharingan to see speed. That's what makes taijutsu a dangerous enemy to it. Combining taijutsu and speed will give an advantage over the sharingan. Therefore, the sharingan user will have lots of trouble seeing their enemies come at them. Another weakness of the sharingan is that it can't copy bloodline based jutsus. It's just not theirs to copy. Basically, physical combat is the most dangerous to the sharingan. It's not only unpredictable but almost unstoppable for sharingan users. However, it's wickedly powerful in the areas of copying ninjutsu and genjutsu.

There is another sharingan abilty. So far it's been used twice by Itachi. The focus of this genjutsu is to cause a breakdown in someone's mind and spirit. The name of this genjutsu is Mange-sharingan. First Itachi looks at his opponent in the eyes. He then chooses a form of torture or a past event that hurt that person the most. Also Itachi can make the person feel a certain amount of time in an instant. For example, Itachi uses a form of torture on Kakashi. Itachi made Kakashi think that he was really getting katanas shoved into himself. Itachi, being the master of the illision was doing all the shoving. Itachi also made it seem to him that it felt like 72 hours (three days). In a form of a past memory, Itachi made Sasuke relive the day their parents were killed by Itachi. This only lasted for 24 hours. This genjutsu causes a lot of pain that lingers around for a while. However, it's also apparently dangerous to Itachi as well. He can't seem to use it much because it could be fatal.


Wahtever....I think Sharingan is much better!