View Full Version : Kenpachi - Shikai and Bankai
Nexus
05-12-2007, 01:56 AM
I was wondering who believe that Kenpachi will ever obtain his shikai and bankai? I know he's super strong without them, but with them he may be untouchable. Let's hear your thoughts...
TSBasilisk
05-12-2007, 06:24 AM
He may not be able to. Shikai and Bankai are releases of the power stemming from one's soul that inhabits their sword, the distillation of their fighting instincts. Kenpachi, however, may not have a part of his soul that is separate for such insticts. He lives to fight, and always have; the instincts that most separate to form their zanpakuto are core to his very being. Allowing them to form a separate entity within him is probably impossible, and so his zanpakuto may remain nameless, too bound up in his soul to ever find its own self.
Aruko
05-12-2007, 08:18 AM
Well I hope you recall after Ichigo beat him and he was laying there, there was some small inclination that he's at least interested in learning the name of his Zanpakuto. If Kenpachi wants to do something, he'll do it. If that means Shikai/Bankai, it'll be done. lol
YondaimeBunshin
05-12-2007, 08:15 PM
Yea a Kenpachi Shikai and Bankai would be interesting, and useful as the current anime/manga arc has reeeally strong enemies! I def would be interested what it would look like, esp with his gold colored riastu (sp?). But a deep inner journey for someone like Kenpachi? LOL.
Lumineon
05-13-2007, 01:20 PM
Kenpachi is already overpowered without his Shikei and Bankai. I think he'd be rather unstoppable if he were to attain those levels. It would be nice, though, considering the Soul Society doesn't seem to match up against the Espada, nevermind Aizen, Gin, and Tousen. ;l
shiyukura
05-21-2007, 12:23 PM
he'd be crazily unstoppable with a bankai
it wudn't be fair to the other char if he did
JustPimpin
05-21-2007, 01:13 PM
Well I hope you recall after Ichigo beat him and he was laying there, there was some small inclination that he's at least interested in learning the name of his Zanpakuto. If Kenpachi wants to do something, he'll do it. If that means Shikai/Bankai, it'll be done. lol
couldn't have said it better! i believe kenpachi will obtain shikai, AND bankai! although he might not achieve bankai until the end of the series, when it really counts, AND IT'S GONNA BE AWESOME!:rolleyes:
Distortion
05-21-2007, 03:44 PM
Kenpachi is already overpowered without his Shikei and Bankai. I think he'd be rather unstoppable if he were to attain those levels. It would be nice, though, considering the Soul Society doesn't seem to match up against the Espada, nevermind Aizen, Gin, and Tousen. ;l
I dont think Tousen will be a problem. >_> Kenpachi faught him and easily defeated him. Gin, he's not too impressive either.
Kenpachi with bankai = god-like
TSBasilisk
05-23-2007, 12:06 AM
I think I've only seen Gin fight twice thus far...and both times, his attacks were so pathetically predictable...he better have one **** of a bankai to make up for it.
katonha
05-23-2007, 07:43 PM
Hold on, if i remember correctly, isn't kenpachi's zanpaktou in its released state at all times. Remember that is when ichigo said that kenpachi couldn't get any stronger during their fight, and then kenpachi stabbed ichigo.:cool:
Hitokugutsu
05-23-2007, 07:44 PM
zomg ken-chan would pwn with shikai and bankai O_O
TSBasilisk
05-23-2007, 08:16 PM
Hold on, if i remember correctly, isn't kenpachi's zanpaktou in its released state at all times. Remember that is when ichigo said that kenpachi couldn't get any stronger during their fight, and then kenpachi stabbed ichigo.:cool:
Actually, Kenpachi stated that his zapaktou had no name, and that was its only form. A name is required to achieve Shikai, so the sword he was wielding was nothing more than a sword; he was the one who had the greater strength, not the sword.
Hitokugutsu
05-23-2007, 08:30 PM
meh didnt ken-chan shout out (when he lost to ichigo) what his zanpakutoh's name was and received no answer? been long time :p
TSBasilisk
05-23-2007, 08:45 PM
He held it up to his face and asked whether it was willing to tell him his name after so long; when it was silent, he simply smiled and said he had suspected as much.
dEcCrIx
05-23-2007, 08:54 PM
Kenpachi and Ichigo's reiatsu are quite similar, its that kenpachi has an attitude of fighting all alone and believing only in himself to be come powerful thus he didnt need his nameless sword's help... but if he did have the time for soul searching, it is very probable he could attain it but it'll be too
god-like for someopne like him to attain it though... he may even become a vizard with such a powerful reiatsu :cool:
Ami-san
05-23-2007, 09:13 PM
Kenpachi will be a god if he ever unlocked shikai and bankai. But hes still badass without them, hes pretty dam good at surviving other shinigami's shikai and bankais and manages to kick their asses with his busted zanpakto.
fieldscarcrow
05-23-2007, 09:15 PM
I hope he can, he would be the broly of bleach
sasukesshadow
06-20-2007, 01:27 PM
i dont read the manga and only watch the anime but i have the feeling that bleach is nearing its end and kenpachi learning shikai and bankai this late into the show would be kinda random.
katonha
06-25-2007, 08:54 PM
Quoted From Wikipedia
Kenpachi's zanpakutō has no known name, even to its owner. Kenpachi is the only captain of the Gotei 13 who doesn't know the name of his sword, nor can he use his final release as a result. Despite not knowing its name, it is constantly released.[4] The sword's appearance is a reflection of Kenpachi's own practice of weakening himself to fight: it is a seemingly worn-down and dull blade with a guard that extends inward from its center. The blade is much longer than that of a standard zanpakutō. Despite its appearance, it is quite capable of cutting through most objects due to Kenpachi's immense amount of spiritual power. This is demonstrated when he stabs straight through Ichigo's zanpakutō and later cuts a building in half after releasing the full force of his spiritual power.
It appears that after his fight with Ichigo, Kenpachi wishes to learn more about his zanpakutō because he wants to become stronger and can identify with the pain of not having a name. However, he is not yet capable of communicating with his zanpakutō, and it is implied that he continually tries to learn from his zanpakutō so that he can achieve a new tier of power. Zangetsu notes that Kenpachi's disharmony with his sword causes the two to damage each other's power.
As it says, Kenpachi's zanpaktou is constantly released(meaning shikai) and it says in the series that if he even did try sealing his zanpaktou, it would waste to much energy trying. Here is the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenpachi_Zaraki:cool:
Grimmjow
06-25-2007, 10:34 PM
As it says, Kenpachi's zanpaktou is constantly released(meaning shikai) and it says in the series that if he even did try sealing his zanpaktou, it would waste to much energy trying. Here is the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenpachi_Zaraki:cool:
even so, shikai with knowing his sword's name is much more powerful than shikai without.
Solus Bringer
06-25-2007, 11:17 PM
if you listen or read (depends on what you watch) everone is at basic shikai form releasing the name makes the shikai more powerful but through training you can achieve bankai. Plus is kenpachi were to achieve Bankai it would be unstoppable because Bankai reflects the person using it. So his sword would either be really big or it would change its form like the second squad Lt. so and his spiretuakl power will double so old man yama better look out
Grimmjow
06-25-2007, 11:26 PM
if you listen or read (depends on what you watch) everone is at basic shikai form releasing the name makes the shikai more powerful but through training you can achieve bankai. Plus is kenpachi were to achieve Bankai it would be unstoppable because Bankai reflects the person using it. So his sword would either be really big or it would change its form like the second squad Lt. so and his spiretuakl power will double so old man yama better look out
but see, him becoming unstoppable would be a good thing, since aizen needs some one that is that strong to defeat him, and cuzz things are so slow now in the manga, giving him bankai would help make allot of progress. or so i think.
dEcCrIx
06-26-2007, 12:40 AM
kenpachi hasnt been in action ever, since his fight with ichigo in soul society arc excluding the filler arcs.... so we kubo may decide to give him bankai during this time when ichigo and gang were in hueco mundo... it wud really be a surprise when kenpachi decides to crash party in hueco mundo, he wud tottaly kick ass! :p
^ me fantasizing >.>
gaara13
07-09-2007, 11:51 AM
just occured to me but at the end of his fight with ichigo in ss he stated that he wanted to know his sword's name in order to become even stronger and fight more.
an easy and obvious way to achieve this quickly and hassle-free is the same way ichigo achieved bankai with that doll in the cave with yoruichi. not only he will find out the sword's name he will even fight aganst it :) what do you guys think?
Nexus
07-09-2007, 12:02 PM
just occured to me but at the end of his fight with ichigo in ss he stated that he wanted to know his sword's name in order to become even stronger and fight more.
an easy and obvious way to achieve this quickly and hassle-free is the same way ichigo achieved bankai with that doll in the cave with yoruichi. what do you guys think?
That may be true, but I don't think that Urahara or Yoruichi would just let anyone in... It would perhaps have to be a fair exchange...
YondaimeBunshin
07-09-2007, 12:19 PM
Giving Kenpachi a Shikai/Bankai release would just be awesome, it would make him superpowered, but as it stands now, Ichigo is like the Goku of Bleach and I kinda liked it when everyone was at similar levels of skill and power. Chad is another example of someone who needs to get a lot stronger. Even in the manga *SPOILER!* he got his other arm and got all stronger and stuff and still got owned by that one guy.. And now we haven't heard anything from him or the others in forever! Grr.
Kaine
07-09-2007, 01:09 PM
no i guess he can't since i think no zapaktou would be able to restrain his strength.Also it is his trade-mark to use a simple sword and pawn so roughly bad.It wouldn't be the same if he had bankai,it doesn't fit him this is what i believe.
silencer299
07-13-2007, 02:17 PM
But then he would be too strong. Which would be bad for the plot and ichigo's "main character" shield.
Lelouch
07-18-2007, 11:31 AM
zaraki is a badass mainly because he cant use shikai or bankai and is a captain lvl shingami and can pwn the shit out of anyone he fights,u give him shikai and bankai and there goes the badass of bleach .
Eurynomous
07-18-2007, 03:42 PM
He should learn at least the name of his sword sooner or later. They showed a glimpse of how he felt being nameless. He even gave Yachiru (sp?) her name. What you think he would do for his sword in that situation? I think he will try to at least find out the name given his feelings for being nameless.
Lelouch
07-18-2007, 06:13 PM
whne u look back at how he gave that little pink headed demon her name ,it was almost like he took the name from his zanpaktou and gave it to her .
sakura21
08-08-2007, 11:51 AM
Do you think that kenpachi stole the zanpakuto from the previous captian that he fought to earn his place as captian? If so he could have not learned his zanpakuto's name because he could have took it from the last captian who didn't have the chance to release it because he killed him so fast.
nejismirk
08-09-2007, 03:59 AM
he'll be friggin' crazy when that happens...
probably own some half of the espadas by himself. it'll be a killing spree.
JustLaxin
08-09-2007, 08:30 PM
Who knows.
His shikai might be like ichigo's and won't change much besides the appearance.
BUT, remember, ichigo didnt obtain bankai when he had his fight with Kenpatchi. So... I think he might obtain bankai after a long time of manga has gone by, Ichigo will be A LOT stronger, they will fight, ichigo will woop his ass.
ninjaXshinigami
08-12-2007, 02:25 PM
its probaly to late for zaraki to call out his sword's name
too bad
Nexus
08-12-2007, 02:36 PM
its probaly to late for zaraki to call out his sword's name
too bad
Why is that?
Kaine
09-11-2007, 09:06 AM
If you remember in the fight between him and Ichigo,Zabgetsu said that his sword was screaming from pain or something.Kenpachi hasn't shown the amounted respect or trust to his sword,so I guess his sword will return that "favour" to him.
I think by the time winter comes around in the manga he will have at least a shikai, if he's lucky maybe bankai; but if i would save that to some really climactic part in the series.
wish303
09-18-2007, 07:52 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I would watch an entire movie, episode arc, or spin-off only about Kenpachi and his search for his sword's name/Bankai.
I'd love to see his character in something a little more mature. Maybe something on the same level as Berserker, but with much of the Bleach style, just none of the Candyland limits.
DemonRage
09-28-2007, 04:49 PM
If Kenpachi is able to release a bankai, it would be insanely powerfull.
It would look nice if his zanpaktu turns into an unstoppable wrecking ball on a heavy chain, which can be swung around. Whatever it hits will shatter under the raw power it posesses... this thing will be unstoppable, just like Kenpachi himself.
Shikamaru2007
09-28-2007, 05:42 PM
i dont think he need'em
cuz he is the strongest captain ever...
HANDS UP
shadow_moon
09-28-2007, 09:31 PM
kenpachi would be ubber strong if was able to obtain shikai & bankai...
he would be unstoppable..
fieldscarcrow
09-28-2007, 11:19 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I would watch an entire movie, episode arc, or spin-off only about Kenpachi and his search for his sword's name/Bankai.
I'd love to see his character in something a little more mature. Maybe something on the same level as Berserker, but with much of the Bleach style, just none of the Candyland limits.
Yes, that is that post is full of win and other good goo
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