ok i have had a problem all week and i figured it out
Kakashi Vs god Pain is dumb

KAashi should have killed him by now for real.

First problem, God pain uses gravity, how does gravity stop Lightning? anyone
ya a physical attack ok, earth sure, water yep, even wind and fire yes gravity will push it, or crush it, but lightning moves by continuety, if you have enough ellectricity it will ark

Second problem Kakashi has ms, Dude can move things into a diffrent dimension. Now there are some draw back. you know moveing objects, the size, way high risk reword. i get that.

But come on guy such an expotion the size of a house away and he cant use it on God pain, To me it is worth a week in the hospital just to use ms and poof no more Od pain.

man i bet leaf village nurses are way hot they will bring you some tea,

you know kick back read some good porn.

or let god pain ware you down and kill you

oh no ms can probably be stoped by gravity allso, no its imossibleto move things into another dimension we have gravity

issac newton is turning over in his grave

Kakashi death by apple in 425

ok i have had a problem all week and i figured it out
Kakashi Vs god Pain is dumb

KAashi should have killed him by now for real.

First problem, God pain uses gravity, how does gravity stop Lightning? anyone
ya a physical attack ok, earth sure, water yep, even wind and fire yes gravity will push it, or crush it, but lightning moves by continuety, if you have enough ellectricity it will ark

Second problem Kakashi has ms, Dude can move things into a diffrent dimension. Now there are some draw back. you know moveing objects, the size, way high risk reword. i get that.

But come on guy such an expotion the size of a house away and he cant use it on God pain, To me it is worth a week in the hospital just to use ms and poof no more Od pain.

man i bet leaf village nurses are way hot they will bring you some tea,

you know kick back read some good porn.

or let god pain ware you down and kill you

oh no ms can probably be stoped by gravity allso, no its imossibleto move things into another dimension we have gravity

issac newton is turning over in his grave

Kakashi death by apple in 425

I think the laws of nature are a little differant in narutoverse.

Kakashi didnt want use Ms until he found out G pains power and by then he put faith in the akamichis help so he didnt and now look. Shouldve just sucked him up including the akamichis!

data book clearly shows whos stronger sasori would rip him.

I'd like to say Sasori would lose..even if we havent seen kisame go all out, Sasori is pretty damn slow.

sasori will win
he can use his puppet to grab kisame's Samehada
and then turn the fight into close-range combat

he doesn't need to use poison or iron sand
he can fight physically considering he can fight forever without getting tired
:)

ok i have had a problem all week and i figured it out
Kakashi Vs god Pain is dumb

KAashi should have killed him by now for real.

First problem, God pain uses gravity, how does gravity stop Lightning? anyone
ya a physical attack ok, earth sure, water yep, even wind and fire yes gravity will push it, or crush it, but lightning moves by continuety, if you have enough ellectricity it will ark

Second problem Kakashi has ms, Dude can move things into a diffrent dimension. Now there are some draw back. you know moveing objects, the size, way high risk reword. i get that.

But come on guy such an expotion the size of a house away and he cant use it on God pain, To me it is worth a week in the hospital just to use ms and poof no more Od pain.

man i bet leaf village nurses are way hot they will bring you some tea,

you know kick back read some good porn.

or let god pain ware you down and kill you

oh no ms can probably be stoped by gravity allso, no its imossibleto move things into another dimension we have gravity

issac newton is turning over in his grave

Kakashi death by apple in 425


Dude, gravity efects all. Even light. Black hole can pull light.

Hachibi vs Hidan

data book clearly shows whos stronger sasori would rip him.
Actually, Kisame's stronger than Sasori as Sasori's more well-rounded than Kisame. Kisame ties in pure strength with Gai and Tsunade (which is maxed out at level "5").




Hachibi vs Hidan
Hachibi would win hands down.

Actually, Kisame's stronger than Sasori as Sasori's more well-rounded than Kisame. Kisame ties in pure strength with Gai and Tsunade (which is maxed out at level "5").



Hachibi would win hands down.

sasori is stronger when i say strong i mean as any normal person would well rounded overall as a whole matters not what power raw kisame has overall sasori is stronger which is why he would rip kisame apart. just like ororchimaru was the second strongest akatsuki when he was in there sasori became 2 when he left.

mixed martial arts would win over any of the others if they are alone without other in conjunction do you know anything about fighting:confused:

sasori is stronger when i say strong i mean as any normal person would well rounded overall as a whole matters not what power raw kisame has overall sasori is stronger which is why he would rip kisame apart. just like ororchimaru was the second strongest akatsuki when he was in there sasori became 2 when he left.

mixed martial arts would win over any of the others if they are alone without other in conjunction do you know anything about fighting:confused:

Going by your logic, explain how Asuma lost to Hidan when he was overall better than Hidan? That should've never happen since Asuma's more well-rounded, right? Also, don't compare real-life fighting (which I do know about) to anything that goes on in Naruto ;).

hachibi would win
i didn't see Hidan use a jutsu other than his ritual.
:D

what if it is Shino vs Deidara, who'll win ?

deidara hands down.

Shikamaru + hidan vs killerbee

Neji vs kisami? Think about it!

^

neji already fought kisame and lost

Shika and hidan will win.

^

neji already fought kisame and lost

Shika and hidan will win.

Neji fought two clones and destroyed them, but he didnt fight kisame so wtf are you talking about.

Neji fought two clones and destroyed them, but he didnt fight kisame so wtf are you talking about.

Rubbish....... Anyway 1 of naruto's KB vs 1 of kakashi's KB

deidara vs orochimaru

Orochimaru

Neji fighting Kisame's clones is considered fighting Kisame. Since, it's a Jutsu that Kisame knows.

Anyway, as for Orochimaru vs. Deidara, I'd think Orochimaru would win, if he was in better shape than he was when Sasuke 'killed' him.

Neji fighting Kisame's clones is considered fighting Kisame. Since, it's a Jutsu that Kisame knows.

Anyway, as for Orochimaru vs. Deidara, I'd think Orochimaru would win, if he was in better shape than he was when Sasuke 'killed' him.

Im talking about a one on one fight. No weak ass ninjas getting in the way.

Gentle fist vs raw power?

how bout the 9 Jinchuuriki(s) VS. 9 Akatsuki members ??

I'm going with the nine Akatsuki members.

9 bijju will obliterate then entire world kyuubi himself would kill them all if madara doesn't control it one swoop of it's tail and it causes tsunami's lol who can say 9 akatsuki members when half of em are weak as shit sasuke is around the base average of an akatsuki data book according. itachi is like the only one abov em all and had a special level the others were garbage about 33 in overall for all of em or around it thats nothingggg.

how bout the 9 Jinchuuriki(s) VS. 9 Akatsuki members ??

well madara alone can win that fight (control kyubbi and pwnd the other beasts)

But if the fight is just raw power(no biju control or genjutsu) 9 biju vs 9 persons then the beast will make akatsuki Zh!t literally.

well madara alone can win that fight (control kyubbi and pwnd the other beasts)

But if the fight is just raw power(no biju control or genjutsu) 9 biju vs 9 persons then the beast will make akatsuki Zh!t literally.

agreed if madara does't control kyuubi the beats will win 3 will be needed max or kyubi alone can kill them all but if madara is able to control kyuubi then kyuubi can just kill all the other beats cause it can never tire out.

I dont think it would take all nine of the akatsuki. Itachi could use sasoono to seal away all of the jinchuuricis bijuu and then pain and kakuzu can take care of the rest exept KB, hes kisames.

i place my bet on the bijuu.
if the other tailed beasts cooperate as well
i mean, if the other bijuus were to take on one akatsuki member each.
cause hidan is a free kill for them. then the bijuu that fought hidan can concentrate in protecting the kyuubi from madara :D
and kyuubi can do his thing

i place my bet on the bijuu.
if the other tailed beasts cooperate as well
i mean, if the other bijuus were to take on one akatsuki member each.
cause hidan is a free kill for them. then the bijuu that fought hidan can concentrate in protecting the kyuubi from madara :D
and kyuubi can do his thing

Hidan is a free kill? He can't die, so that doesn't sound right. Akatsuki has already took down seven out of the nine bijuus. I don't believe whether the bijuus have hosts or not would make a huge difference in the fight based of the skills of the Akatsuki, so I can see Akatsuki winning the fight.

Why don't we think about some serious up coming battle..

Like chouji Vs hungry ghost realm?

Hidan is a free kill? He can't die, so that doesn't sound right. Akatsuki has already took down seven out of the nine bijuus. I don't believe whether the bijuus have hosts or not would make a huge difference in the fight based of the skills of the Akatsuki, so I can see Akatsuki winning the fight.

i mean is that, hidan is useless.
did you play dota?? just for once ??
in dota, even if you get killed, you respawn after a certain amount of time, but you can get killed again and respawn again right ?
if other players are greater than you, than you'll just end up being a free kill. not necessarily permanently dead, but even though hidan can come back to life, he's still gonna get killed anyway. he doesn't think, just like Kakuzu stated. ahaha. and besides, bijuus are unkillable, but they can only be sealed.

i mean is that, hidan is useless.
did you play dota?? just for once ??
in dota, even if you get killed, you respawn after a certain amount of time, but you can get killed again and respawn again right ?
if other players are greater than you, than you'll just end up being a free kill. not necessarily permanently dead, but even though hidan can come back to life, he's still gonna get killed anyway. he doesn't think, just like Kakuzu stated. ahaha. and besides, bijuus are unkillable, but they can only be sealed.

Im pretty sure Yondaime could create 9 shadow clones, seal all 9 bijuu and when Yandaime dies, so does his clones and anything sealed in them.

but what of the sand's kazekage ?
the ichibi, shukaku was sealed in him,
did he surrender his shukaku ??
he didn't surrender it right ? because he was in his prime back then, when he got killed. why didn't the shukaku get killed ?

but what of the sand's kazekage ?
the ichibi, shukaku was sealed in him,
did he surrender his shukaku ??
he didn't surrender it right ? because he was in his prime back then, when he got killed. why didn't the shukaku get killed ?

They said they removed it and it killed him. Chioy was talking about it.

Jinchuriki yes bijju no weak bijju yes but from 6 to 9 no chance in hell kyuubi alone would kill them all only reaosn is madara can control kyuubi so they are safe even with that they are pathetically weak kakzuu from sasori are about 33 to 33.5 hidan is a 31.5 deidara is a 32 itachi is the only one at 35.5 and evne he would be killed with just one roar of the kyuubi u ppl are nuts to think theyc an take down the strong bijju.

Oro vs killer bee?

I'm going with Killer Bee on this one. If Naruto was strong enough to kill Orochimaru using only four tails, imagine what eight would do to Orochimaru. Also, it would be interesting to see how Orochimaru would get around Killer Bee's sword technique without the Sharingan.

I'm going with Killer Bee on this one. If Naruto was strong enough to kill Orochimaru using only four tails, imagine what eight would do to Orochimaru. Also, it would be interesting to see how Orochimaru would get around Killer Bee's sword technique without the Sharingan.

I know Oro had some bad ass sealing techs, so if he could seal the hachibi and fight KB without it, he could win. Unless he cant and then oros boned!

Killer Bee > Orochimaru

Rari atto would slay this guy instantly. In fact i wonder why Orochimaru never tried to mess with the cloud. 8 tails moped the floor with Sasuke and he would do the same to Orochimaru. The sealing jutsu would only make Bee vulnerable to genjutsu instead. Nothing else.

Sasuke is a lot weaker then oro A LOT so don't compare killer bee's win to sasuke as u would to orochimaru but yes once killer bee unleashes oro is done for unless he can find a way to summon some strong dead guy who cannot die.

Sasuke is a lot weaker then oro A LOT so don't compare killer bee's win to sasuke as u would to orochimaru but yes once killer bee unleashes oro is done for unless he can find a way to summon some strong dead guy who cannot die.

They both would lose anyway.

Orochimaru would get vaporized. Gates of Rashoumon(something like that).
Sasuke would get vaporized. No Manda.
Use amasteru, the beast would detach it's limbs. Then the real killer bee would slay a battered Sasuke.

Sasuke was the only character in the manga broke though Itachi's genjutsu.
Orochimaru didn't.

They both would lose anyway.

Orochimaru would get vaporized. Gates of Rashoumon(something like that).
Sasuke would get vaporized. No Manda.
Use amasteru, the beast would detach it's limbs. Then the real killer bee would slay a battered Sasuke.

Sasuke was the only character in the manga broke though Itachi's genjutsu.
Orochimaru didn't.

If we are talking about tsukuyomi he didn't break it to the point were he didn't get effected at all he did get effected but not fully i agree there. But he had cs2 to help him such a huge amount of power at once with the sharingan combined did it. as for the other genjutsu he had sharingan to do it yet still was played a few times.

point given orochimaru would last way longer in that fight then sasuke did.

Hidan + shikamaru vs killerbee

Kimimaru vs kisame?

Hidan+Shikamaru vs Killer bee

Killer bee would own them both, because 8 tails will leak some chakra and break the shadow bind and Bee has some excellent reflexes so he would shut Hidan down in no time. With all of those crazy calculations from Shika would only tell him one thing and that is "get the fuck away from this guy". Bee is faster than Sasuke, so Hidan would get owned by Rari Atto.

Kimimaru vs Kisame

Kisame hands down. He would drown Kimimaru and tear him to pieces with those sharks. Come on. Kisame is the master of the water element as of now Kisame would be victorious because he can't see what he's capable of as of yet.

Kimimaru could execute kisame with a bone bullet to the head or kisame could try and drown him. IDK this one could go either way.

Even Gaara as a kid could beat Kimimaru so Kisame would own him easily.

Even Gaara as a kid could beat Kimimaru so Kisame would own him easily.

Gaara never defeated kimimaru. If I remember right kimimaru was about to kill gaar, but then died when kimimaru body gave out. Also kimimaru was fighting gaara when he was badly sick and was still about to kill gaara.

I could only see kisame winning the fight if he was fighting underwater.

i have to say and complain i love the fight between itachi and sasuke my god i cried laughed and damn it i said holy snapps that had to hurt and the way itachi and sasuke go at it it's like monkeys fighting and at the very end when itachi was dying he confessed he did love sasuke and wow it was just dramatic

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii95/leckoMioPopo/Itachi_and_Sasuke_the_end_by_Don_Ra.jpg

tear drops falling

1st hokage vs 4th hokage?

Which team is the strongest akatsuki team?

Its between Itachi, kisame vs pain, konan

to teh yellow flash, It'd be Pain and Konan, due to the fact that Pain has almost wiped out all of Konoha and ... I just think that P/K would win...

Now here is one that is interesting.
Yamato Vs. Gaara
Wood Vs. Sand, interesting huh?

Sasori vs Kakashi + Guy + Asuma (no antidote) status that none of the Jounins know anything about Sasori

this is the fight id like to see

but first gaara vs yamato - gaara wins, compressed sand is harder than wood

now the fight between sasori and 3 joinins
is taking place in the cave, 3 jounins have communicators
kakashi observes strange scorpio like body: we'll stay on defense first
sasori: i have to kill one of them quick
sasori starts with the needle barrage, leaves his scorpio shell and summons kazekage puppet
kakashi, gai and asuma scatter around the cave (they are walking on walls) to make the density of the needle barrage lower
asuma throws his wind blades at scorpio and follows with his flame breath
sasori must: a) block this attack with the iron sand in which case gai appears extremely fast in front of kazekage puppet and smashes it with his nunchaks
b) let scorpio die and concentrate on a attack with the iron sand
kakashis kage bunshin with chidori creeps up on sasoris puppet body but fails
asuma destroys scorpio and sasori begins his ultimate move with the iron sand that fills up the entire battlefield
kakashi: team leave the cave
gai punches through the walls of the cave and jumps out, so does asuma with his boxers
kakashi goes under ground
now sasori pretty much has the advantage, but i will end this with a jutsu i just made up
kakashis kage bunshin jumps out and is targeted with spikes made of iron sand (spikes are branched through the cave)
kage bunshin is pierced with a spike, real kakashi appears behind his bunshin and puts his raikiri onto the iron spike, he conducts his chidori through all of the branched spikes and shapes his lightning to hit kazekage (first target) and sasori (second target)
as he puts kazekage down he gives the signal to gai and asuma to reenter the battle
3 jounins win

i say 3 jounin win against sasori but i think there might be a casuality probably asuma...and yamato vs gaara is no contest gaara now that hes hokage hes unstopable even with deidara if he wasnt protecting the village then he woulda owned deidara...

how bout some chick fights.....

sakura vs. female snake member (name escapes me)

and kurenai(genjutsu master) vs. sakura(master of releasing genjutsu and med jutsu)

id say that the female snake member (i cant remember her name also) wins coz she is the sensor type so her battle style is prob unique
kurenai wins coz of experience she has and sakura is not yet a master of genjutsu

here is something interesting: sasuke vs gravity pein

Gravity pain win. He can do rain to.

Push Sasuke into a building and screw a kunai into his eyes.

About Saskue MS, Itachi was working for him for years, he prob knows a trick or two to counter it. He even have Madara around.

Think of this situation.

At Bridge of heaven and earth Kabuto is waiting to kill Sasori. Instead of Sasori, Hidan and Kakuzu appeared.

Hidan and Kakuzu vs Kabuto and Oro

Well Pein in general doesn't throw punches, doubt himself, or suffer from over confidence like Sasuke does. Knowing Sasuke he'll try to play with God realm at first which will cost him his life within the first two minutes. Sharingan Genjutsu won't factor here for me because of the rennigan nor would tracking physical movement sense you can't dodge if you're getting thrown around by forces of gravity. If Sasuke tries Amaterasu God realm will just redirect it at Sasuke & kill him with his own flames.

God realm wins.

Edit
Hidan and Kakuzu vs Kabuto and Oro

Interesting matchup. Orochimaru & Kabuto would have a good deal of information on these two fighters before hand though one can't underestimate the intellect of Kakazu. Even as an immortal Hidan probably still needs nerve endings to move around I'd assume. Giving Kabuto an opportunity in this one. If Kabuto could immobilize Hidan quickly by dragging him under ground, sever nerve endings in his arms & legs, & or cut off his head then pull it underground they stand a far chance at winning. Even in the weakened state Orochimaru would still prove enough to occupy Kakazu long enough for this to happen. Then simple team work of these two would be enough to stop Kakazu. Orochimaru's sword should be able to pierce Kakazu's iron skin while Kabuto's medical ninjutsu should be able to do the same.

True.

But I imagine and assume Kakuzu has a great deal of knowledge about Kabu and Oro. He wont be stupid to ask Hidan charge at Kabuto knwoing Kabuto can make Hidan into and immortal steven hawking. He will deal with kabuto while hidan use his taijutsu, immortal, jashin teaching and stupidity to occupy Oro long enough for Kakuzu to end Kabuto. Then they use their combo to end Oro.

i have no idea on this one, id say oro and kabuto win coz oro is a bigger monster than kakuzu, cant get damaged it seems, and kabuto is smarter than hidan, a lot smarter

as for the fight between sasuke and gravity pein, i think sasuke has a better chance than kakashi coz sasuke has stronger moves and could last enough to think of something
and sasuke can create amateratsu on sight he wouldnt give a chance for g-pein to push amateratsu away
sasuke would lose against more than one pein combined with the gravity one but i think he could take this one out if its just the two of them

as for the fight between sasuke and gravity pein, i think sasuke has a better chance than kakashi coz sasuke has stronger moves and could last enough to think of something
and sasuke can create amateratsu on sight he wouldnt give a chance for g-pein to push amateratsu away
sasuke would lose against more than one pein combined with the gravity one but i think he could take this one out if its just the two of them

I was going to agree with you until I thought about something that would give Sasuke the edge. Remember, Deva Realm Pain has pauses in between his use of gravitation, so Sasuke could stay on the defensive and use his superior speed to deal damage to Pain before he could use the power again. Sasuke (in terms of ninjutsu abilities) can do what Kakashi does and more, so numbing the other bodies of Pain while the lighting element should be that tough. Also, we still haven't seen everything that Sasuke learned in the past, and that could probably help him in the fight. Just something to think about.

I think kakashi 1 on 1 can take out god pain, so Im sure sasuke can.

How about Deidra vs demon realm?

Both are long range. One uses clay C4 bombs, another uses rockets alot of it, shoot his arm and has a partical ion beam on his head.

demon wins. No bomb can defeat pain own partical ion beam.

deidara would win, he was very strong

how about sasuke vs kakashi?

Sasuke would win since he has stronger eyes, more chakra, more powerful jutsus under his belt, and he's younger :D.

Deidra vs Demon Realm: Demon Realm wins because of a faster jutsu execution.

Sasuke vs. Kakashi: For a long time I would say Sasuke. My reasons for picking Sasuke has always been his superior lightning jutsu. Regardless of Element hierarchy it seemed as though nothing Kakashi had could counter Sasuke's Lightning. Sasuke's lightning pwnz Kakashi's Lightning, Earth, & Water styles. However Kakashi has recently shown us some new lightning jutsu which now puts this logic to question. Kakashi can not only use a long ranged lightning jutsu but also a lightning clone!?!?!?! This makes this a totally new argument & I can see how one could vote for the other. Kamiu is superior to Amaterasu while Tsukuyomi may not work on Kakashi now because of his new found MS. The way Kakashi winz this battle is by use of a lightning clone to stun Sasuke followed by Kamiu to finish the job.

deidara is weaker than demon realm?
i mean deidara is the master of explosions and that is all that demon realm knows so deidara should be able to beat him now
ok demon realm just fires them coz he a robot but deidara is a ninja after all

i think sasuke and kakashi know each other so they would be very carefull, if kakashi would send his lightning clone first, sasuke would send a kage bunshin, they wouldnt use ms just like that on a clone
sasuke wins but not easily

Wrong.

Demon realm is a heavy arms ninja. Deidara is the master of bombs but demon realms dont uses bombs. He uses missle just look how many missile he can throw, ion beam + his rinnengan.

Imagine this situation.

Tsunade found Hidan and Kakuzu, instead sending Shika and his team and kakashi, she send kurenai, shino, neji and tenten.

hidan and kakuzu vs kurenai, shino, neji and tenten.

what?? Demon realm beats Dei?? No way. Deidara c4 would kill Demon realm in seconds. Deidara's only weakness is sharinfan jutsu. Demon realm has no genjutsu. And if c4 fails which i really really doubt,deidara would use his final explosion (himself) and it would be a tie or dei wins.

OOOOO Hidan & Kakazu vs. Kurenai, Shino, Neji, & Tenten!!!!

This team in allot of aspects is superior to team Shika. I'm going to assume that Shikamaru gave team Kurenai a briefing on what these fighters could do. Mind you they should know next to nothing about Kakazu though know Hidan's immortality & ritual jutsu. The battle starts with countless kunai & paper bomb traps coming at Kakazu & Hidan by use of Tenten. Caught off guard Hidan & Kakazu move around & dodge but are separated. A bug swarm comes from behind Hidan & takes him down in seconds While Neji reads Kakazu's insides by use of Byakugan. Hidan dies from a lack of chakra(No such thing as true immortality as stated by Kakazu. Chakra is the equivalent to life energy & one can not survive without this.) While Neji attacks Kakazu from behind hitting all 5 hearts with a lethal dose on concentrated chakra. Using the concept of an ambush in the same fashion as team Shika did this fight is now over. What's that? Can we say.... PWNED!!!!

i have to say that deidara can fly also, imagine deidara in air with his clay dragon he can counter missiles with his birds (i didnt catch the ion beam, how strong is it?)

this is very interesting, team kurenai vs hidan and kakuzu

kurenai is a lot weaker than kakashi in this situation coz her taijutsu is weaker so she couldnt occupy kakuzu or hidan with hand to hand combat, but her genjutsu is powerfull and i can see hidan falling for it, so kurenai aims for hidan
neji, shino and tenten are more powerfull than shikamaru, chouji and ino
the greatest minus this team has is there is no one to counter kakuzus elements
but maybe they can just evade it
shino should send his bugs to fill the mouths of those masks so they cant spit elemental magic, but that may not work
neji can fight kakuzu with his slicing wind and other stuff
tenten is useful she can distract the enemy with her many weapons
they would put up a good fight, unless kurenai gets involved in hand to hand combat with hidan
they might win

Regarding Kakazu's elements. This is true however a counter for this would be Neji's spin. If the fight even got this far to begin with Neji can help protect the team or just rush at each mask beast while protecting himself with chakra. Because of his Byakugan Neji will be able to tell where the vital point in each beast is. Regarding Shino's bug you need to remember that Shino has never lost a fight & even caused Madara to run by use of his space/time jutsu. If Shino's bugs got on Hidan, Kakazu, or any of the mask(you stated to put them in the mouths) that person or mask beast would go down in seconds. Kurenai is just a bonus here & may not actually be needed in order to beat this team. Her genjutsu trap should work on both Hidan & Kakazu though & she's an extra body to help in the assault.

yes, your ambush plan is very good, but it sounds too easy for hidan and kakuzu to go like that, however with his byakugan neji should see all the hearts kakuzu has and just aim for them, like u said.
if the fight gets to the point where kakuzu releases his masks, then it gets a little difficult.
team kurenai is strong
lets go with another one: i dont know, gai and kakashi vs sasuke

Gai & Kakashi vs. Sasuke

Two elite jounin vs. Sasuke I'm going to have to go with the jounin in this one. Unless Sasuke uses Amaterasu right away to kill off Gai(Kakashi can dodge this by traveling underground or block it with Kamiu) Sasuke stands no chance at winning. Even with a early Amaterasu release Sasuke would then be winded leaving an opening for Kakashi to quickly kill Sasuke.

He's got the speed to play keep away to sta safe until can defeat Kakashi with genjutsu. From there, it's just a matter of using his sword and distance moves to take out Gai. I'm voting Sasuke.

amateratsu is so strong, u get caught in it and its over.
i would like gai and kakashi to win but if sasuke starts doing his shit its very hard for them
now, i would like kakashi to be able to block amateratsu but i dont know about that
so far tobi has evaded it but tobi can make himself disappear, and 8 tails did but he was in his demon form so it was demon chakra receiving the blow
but yeah if sasuke starts casting amateratsu on one of them the other should kick him
they should keep sasuke occupied all the time and not give him the chance to do his amateratsu thats the only way theyll win

edit: gai is so fast sasuke might have trouble focusing on him

No were is it stated that Sasuke is faster then Kakashi let alone Gai. Gai should be the fastest person here & people seem to forget that Gai with Gates can pwn almost anyone in seconds. Genjutsuing Kakashi may not even be an option at this point because 1 normal genjutsu wouldn't work & two MS genjutsu may not work ether because of Kakashi's MS. Even if Sasuke were to drop Kakashi with MS genjutsu(doubt it) Gai would then use this moment of weakness(Sasuke is stunned after using his high level jutsu) to destroy the kid. Gai with Gates would pwn everything Sasuke can do that isn't Amaterasu. Sasuke's only option for Gai is Amaterasu because Gai has trained himself to avoid the genjutsu of Sharingan users while his Katon would be useless(Gai split the seas like Moses) & his lightning would prove to be to slow. Anyway when Gai uses View Gate he gives off a Chakra aura that would no doubt pwn Sasuke's lesser attacks.

gai is fast, i totally forgot about genjutsu that sasuke has, but it would be hard to cast it on both of them at the same time
i like the fact that sasuke has that move from orochimaru when he vomits himself do avoid damage
it would be a good battle and maybe sasuke could defeat them but i think that kakashi and gai make a strong combo = strength and skill

now, here is the fight i figured out: naruto as he is now vs gai, kakashi and shino
what do u think

Sage Naruto vs Gai, Kakashi and Shino

3 vs. one... ok... Well I'd like to start by clearing one thing up. In a 1 vs 1 Naruto would beat all 3 in question. Kakashi himself has stated that Naruto has surpassed him, Gai is pure speed & muscle though Naruto at this point is also a god of speed & also really strong. Factor in the wind element & sage powers & we can see that Naruto could beat Gai. As for Shino Naruto can expell chakra from his body in a Kuuybi like fashion to remove the bugs if they happened to get close enough to him. Naruto can also use clones to confuse Shino & gain an oppertunity to get to Shino were Taijutsu would be enough to stop him. But this is a 3 vs. one we're talking about here. My answer to this is to have Naruto quickly create at least 20 clones & have 5 of them charge Sage chakra while the others buy him time by occupying team Kakashi. None of these ninja would know what Naruto is doing besides maybe Kakashi due to his Sharingan. This is when Kakashi will call back the team & explain to them the current situation & Naruto strange chakra readings. This would however just allow Naruto the time needed to compleate his transformation & at this point there's no telling how the battle would play out. Assuming that Naruto has also surpassed Jiraiya because of his superior sage form & factoring the idea that Naruto's Wind element pwnz Kakashi's Lightning, Earth, & Water I'd have to say with allot of effort Naruto can pull out a narrow victory here. But it's a long shot sense we don't know what Naruto is fully capable of at this point.

yes, we dont know what power naruto has when in sage mode
jiraiya was extra strong and fast and had stronger jutsus (gigantish rasengan)

i was thinking a fight between naruto without sage mode where he just creates lots of kage bunshins to confuse the enemy and builds his rasengans

the key to victory would be to find the real naruto and thats it
sharingan and byakugan cant distinguish the real ones from clones as we have seen in previous battles
so, gai and kakashi fight the clones, while shino sends his female bugs on naruto clones hoping to land one on the real naruto
female bugs call for more bugs so the longer a naruto clone stays in the battle, he will have more bugs
when naruto clones are destroyed naruto just creates more
but the new clones wont have bugs attached
so gai and kakashi just need to clean the clones with the most bugs until they find the real naruto who will have a lot of bugs himself
naruto in sage mode: when he is gathering the energy that energy is prob visible with byakugan or sharingan so he is identified immediately

I like the bug strategy with the clones well done. Though you're underestimating Naruto's use of clones. His clones can use Resenshuriken to blow away Shino's bugs. There's only so many bugs Shino has available to him sense they live inside his body. One big desiding factor here is Shino & Kakashi. Naruto would need to takeout these guys first if he hopes to stand a chance. You said current so I'm factoring in Sage mode.

lets see, yamato , asuma and kakashi vs itachi

itachi is very fast and smart and seems that he let sasuke win even though was hurt/sick at the time
can these three keep it up?

i will answer my question:
itachi is like invincible so far but even itachi gets tired, at the end of the fight with sasuke he was pretty tired, so they need to make the fight last as long as possible and they need to keep each other safe and healthy
lightning clone kakashi, wood clone yamato, asuma i dont know if he knows how to make any clones so he will use himself
two clones and asuma will charge at itachi to keep him busy, kakashi and yamato will stay behind, yamato will cover itachis field of vision with his wooden walls he makes out of earth, asuma will cut through them with his wind blades operating blindly hoping to land a cut on itachi
if however itachi gets to asuma kakashi has to use his black hole technique on him
but he cant coz itachi is too fast
so clones are supposed to cover for asuma especially kakashis clone coz he has sharingan
real kakashi will engage itachi if he sees an opening or asuma gets tired but that leaves yamato and asuma open for attack

I think

Asuma will charge, followed by Yamato's wood come out from the ground, As Itachi retreat and dodge Kakashi will watch and see if Itachi have any blind spot. He is almost blind. And strike from a blind spot. If that fails, Kakashi must use hidden mist to create a fog to blind Itachi and Yamato and Asuma will charge at Itachi with kakashi direction.

Another fight.

Naruto, Yamato, Hinata and Sakura meet Sasuke and his team hawk. Karin, Juugo and that waterboy.

Yamato would probably take care of Juugo and try bind him with his wood jutsu while naruto takes on sasuke of course, the two would exchange blows, each giving the upper hand back and fourth, Hinata would take on Karin because Karin would be able to read Sakura's Strong hits because of all the focus chakra and what not leaving Sakura to take on Suigetsu most likley using a distance to her advantage attacking by embedding explosive tags into his water body trying to evaporate his body seeing as physical attacks would not work well against him with his ability to turn his body to water...

ok vengeance, u have some weird matchups there. gai and kakashi vs sasuke. obviously gai and kakashi. i think kakashi and sasuke are pretty close in power before you add gai into the mix.

then sage naruto vs. kaskashi shino and gai. naruto couldnt deal with shinos bugs because i dont think he would devise a strategy fast enough, you have kakashi and genjutsu and im not sure if naruto has improved in that are. and gai and his gates, naruto has no chance. plus im pretty sure that shino and kakashi are smarter than naruto so he has no advantage in that category

Naruto doesnt even have sage mode yet, hell lets say sage kakashi vs itachi?

How about shino vs konahamaru exept he can summon a giant can of raid?

thats the best you can do

First, Second, Third Hokages Vs. Itachi, Current Sasuke, Madara / Tobi

first, second and third hokage vs itachi, sasuke and tobi

i would say that itachi, sasuke and tobi win
hokages have a lot of chakra but these three are prob the most powerful uchihas ever

just imagine what the three hokages could do combined, i dont know but the big attacks cant work on tobi coz tobi can teleport behind them, itachi can summon his susano to shield him from attacks

Hmmm

Madara will have his hands full with the first. Nindaime will take on Itachi and whatever Sharingan technique Itachi have, Nindaime prob knows how to counter it as Senju and Uchiha always clash and prob even fought Madara's bro. Even so Itachi have arrays of jutsu but most of them are fire element and nindaime is the master of water.

That leave the third against Sasuke. Experience saying he will blast sasuke with his elements while wating for Sasuke to do something stupid, he always do, and exploit it.

the fight i wanted to see is
gai+asuma VS itachi+kisame
when kurenai took kakashi to hospital

gai and asuma can hardly win that one coz kisame would summon an ocean of water and then transform that water into sharks or a gigantish sea monster made of water
itachi just used a mangekyou sharingan on kakashi so he could be a little tired, but could still do all of his jutsus, he would probably fight them hand to hand

the only chance they have is for asuma to slice with his wind blades through water attacks of kisame while gai opens up all of his eight gates and gains extra power to charge at itachi and kisame, so they might win but it would cost gai his life

Team Hawk vs Neji,Shikamaru, Tenten, Hinata and Kiba and Akamaru

u listed a lot of ppl, but sasuke is faster than anyone here so he should attack the slowest members and eliminate them
so the worst thing for the konoha team would be to separate
i would keep shikamaru and neji close and they should fight sasuke,
hinata, tenten, kiba and akamaru should concentrate on the rest of the team hawk
juugo only fights hand to hand so hinata should be able to block his chakra paths and eliminate him first
kiba and akamaru should stay away from the sword suigetsu has
tenten should distract suigetsu from afar with her range attacks
kiba and akamaru should be a support to hinata

i think konohas ninjas can win this way

A good fight

Shino and kiba vs shikamaru amd choji

i think shino and kiba has the win.

i agree, shino can attack shikamaru and chouji at the same time with bugs and kiba and akamaru can attack chouji
but chouji can smash any of them with his megafist

Shino is one of the few I believe can actually beat Shikamaru. Chouji is just smokescreen and wouldn't really help Shkamaru as much as you'd think, and could be taken easily by Shino or Kiba.

all i am saying is that chouji has a heavy hand and i wouldnt want to get hit by it

Kiba is the fastest person her. So i bet he can dodge all of chouji's hits, if not them most of his hits. while kiba handles chouji, shino has his bugs surrounding shikamaru:D

Shino's bugs eat chakra which mean they'll eat Shika's Shadows. Without his ability all Shikamaru would be good for is some random kunai, papers bombs, & planing. Chouji can beat Kiba however if Shino is smart he'll help Kiba beat Chouji quickly then go after Shika. Shino really has nothing to fear from Shikamaru's abilities sense his bug move independently. Shino & Kiba with this one easy.

i disagree on the whole shino kiba win, kiba is too rash and Shika and Chouji are known for their team work attacks, and what is to say that should shino get caught in the shadow technique his bugs wont be immobilized being in contact with his body and within it, i'd go on more but i have to be somewhere very soon go into detail later, catchyaz

itachi and jiraiya vs six peins
you know they can win

I agree totally

Zabuza vs Suigetsu

Zabuza has this easily. I dont know what suigetsu can really do. But since suigetsu calls Zabuza a senpai, I would think he repects zabuza and knows what zabuza "the devil" can do to him.

i dont know, zabuza was beaten pretty badly by kakashi
suigetsu can turn into water and avoid slice damage i guess
but zabuza was jounin, he could definitely keep up with suigetsu

i think suigetsu wins

Gaara vs Kakuzu

gara and kakuzu is interesting
gara can win, he has the shield of sand and that is a perfect defense against kakuzus attacks
it would be a flashy battle with a lot of sand and explosions going on
the only problem for gara is if kakuzus masks surround him and attack him from several angles at the same time but gara can shield himself somehow
gara wins

gara and kakuzu is interesting
gara can win, he has the shield of sand and that is a perfect defense against kakuzus attacks
it would be a flashy battle with a lot of sand and explosions going on
the only problem for gara is if kakuzus masks surround him and attack him from several angles at the same time but gara can shield himself somehow
gara wins

Your forgeting about kakuzus lighting attacks which can cut right through his sand deffense. Also, if kakuzu used his water element on the sand it would make it heavy and slow. Also, kakuzu has earth style which makes his body so hard garas sand attack cant crush him.

Kakuzu has this one. Just a bad match up for gara.

Karin vs. sakura .....

^Karin could only sense Sakura's fist full of chakra coming at her at 300 mph.

Kakuzu wins against Gaara because he has elemental advantage. Easily.

Zabuza vs Suigetsu...well, I don't know. Zabuza is all around a better and stronger ninja, but I didn't see anything he can do that can hurt Suigetsu. IMO, Suigetsu can be beaten by a shinobi who has an elemental advantage over him, or can hit him with a huge amount of chakra (like Hachibi).
Sakura, Tsunade and Kisame can win against Suigetsu easily if you go with that logic. Also, someone with Lightning element, like Sasuke or Kakashi.

i thought karin might have some way of beating sakura before but karin was just a support healer for sasuke so far and hasn't showed a formidable fighting skill like sakura did

maybe gara could block kakuzus elements, gara has a lot of sand and is a kazekage
gara can make stone into sand while kakuzu releases his masks and turn the battlefield into his home terrain
and if the attack gets through sand defense - ups, its a sand clone, real gara is hidden in the sand

^Karin could only sense Sakura's fist full of chakra coming at her at 300 mph.

Kakuzu wins against Gaara because he has elemental advantage. Easily.

Zabuza vs Suigetsu...well, I don't know. Zabuza is all around a better and stronger ninja, but I didn't see anything he can do that can hurt Suigetsu. IMO, Suigetsu can be beaten by a shinobi who has an elemental advantage over him, or can hit him with a huge amount of chakra (like Hachibi).
Sakura, Tsunade and Kisame can win against Suigetsu easily if you go with that logic. Also, someone with Lightning element, like Sasuke or Kakashi.

I was thinking the same thing. Since suigetu is made of water, anyone with the fire elemant can just evaperate him or someone with good sealing skills could seal away his ability to liquify.

With all the ability and power Pain has shown now.......

All 6 Pain vs Shizune and Tsunade

Definitly pain.

Kakashi vs kimimaru?

six peins would beat shizune and tsunade, its too much for them to handle

kakashi would kick kimimarus butt
he can pierce through kimimarus bones with chidori
kakashi would own any of the sound ninjas that shikamaru, neji, chouji, and kiba fought as well

Yeah. Pain will rape them down in 3 minutes.

Pain seems too uber to have one person to fight him.

Ok.

Asuma vs Zabuza.

asuma and zabuza
i think zabuza wins
zabuza would cast his cloud of mist and hide in the mist
then he would assassinate asuma
that didnt work on kakashi because of sharingan and kakashi can smell ppl
but it might work on asuma

Saying kakashi can smell people sounds like zabuza have body odour.

True. But Asuma can make his blade sharper but it would be useless if he can see or smell zabuza.

If Sasori did meet oro and kabuto at that bridge, can he kill them? Saying he brought Deidara there just in case.

Sasori, Deidara vs Kabuto and Oro.

Sasori will be attack by Kabuto who is a spy and that will force both Oro and Deidara in. Sasori will retreat back and charge towards Oro and Deidara will bomb Kabuto.

Deidara will have advantage here since he can stay up and bomb Kabuto to hell.

The battle between Oro and Sasori. Oro can summon a giant snake while Sasori can use 100 poison puppet that can make that giant snake paralyzed. I just cant see any of them can outdo each other.

sasori and deidara have the advantage in this fight
they wouldnt kill orochimaru coz he would escape like always
maybe kabuto would get hurt but kabuto is also smart enough to retreat

on the other hand, i think orochimaru is the strongest guy in that fight, maybe orochimaru would own sasori coz oro is a big snake and regenerates quickly

Ill see if I cant get this going again.

Deidara vs sai?

o wow that is a pretty even fight. they both have flight. deidara has the bombs yet sai can draw crap the can intercept the bombs or even extra forces. it is hard to say. i will go with deidara tho. just because of who he is. he took down garra who was kazekage. he also was able to evade kakshi and naruto even if it was a close call. he also put up a big fight against sasuke who had beaten sai and naruto combined. still it is hard to say still i dont think we have seen all of sai's abillities either.

I know, this fight could go either way. If sai is holding back, which he probably is. One on one sai could have this. The only one of deidaras techs that would turn the tide is his ultimate attack, "nano bombs". Then again sai is slick like kakashi and could use a replacement or ink clone.

If deidara finds a way to strip sai of his ink, Deidara wins.

If sai finds a way to strip deidara of his clay, sai wins.

Dammit I have a head ache. This sounds like it would be a good fight.

yes, sai is more analytical compared to deidara
i'll go with deidara because of deidaras ultimate micro bombs
sai cant see those..
deidara wins

unless sai can see deidara has stopped breathing so sai stops breathing too, then sai hides and sends his ink clone out, and then after seeing all the animals blew up sai makes his clone blow up too and then gets deidara by suprise later

Ill go with sai

How can sai when when he uses ink and Dei uses clap. Come on sai ink doesnt even explode. Dei is an S-rank criminal cause of his explosive. Dei wens this with a c2

Naruto vs Hidan

Naruto vs Hidan

Well if you mean the naruto from now i say naruto hands down but if was naruto at the moment he fought kakuzu(Hidan's partner) then naruto could be in trouble if he dont know hidan special ability.

well, i dunno, both are quite dumb...

maybe hidan could distract naruto with...ramen or something...

then a small needle in the soup, naruto eats, but spit the needle with a small amount of blood...he's finished...

how about konohamaru vs iruka

Konohamaru has rasengan and clones.

He will crush him.

see thats what i thought but its a possibility that since expierience(didnt spell right) IS a factor, i would imagine iruka could make sure kono doesnt get close? he does have both those things but i dont imagine him being as slick as naruto combining them, but who knows

iruka gonna lose. Why the same thing pain did. A mere genin shows up with a rasengan when no one expects it.

iruka/pain: I did not see that coming.

shikamaru, ino and choji vs animal pain

shikamaru, ino and choji vs animal pain

Animal Pain winz easily. No amount of planing will help this team against the hordes of summons Animal has at her disposal. Shikamaru's shadow would be useless once a single summon is out. Chouji can only handle so many beast before he'll fall while Ino is just a cheerleader.

Lets say chouji distracts the summons by using his expantion jutsu, while Ino sits back long range throwing some exlosive kunai "distraction", mean while shika will use his shadow possesion to capture animal realm leading him into the middle of the battle, getting him crushed with one of his own summons.

Thats all I can come up with?

Lets say chouji distracts the summons by using his expantion jutsu, while Ino sits back long range throwing some exlosive kunai "distraction", mean while shika will use his shadow possesion to capture animal realm leading him into the middle of the battle, getting him crushed with one of his own summons.

Thats all I can come up with?

hmm i say yes to the whole distraction thing but i think that with the info ino has Shikamaru will come up with a plan such as taking out the piercings that we know are chakra receivers so it makes the body stop functioning soon they do the same for the rest of the bodies and the original pain is not captured because he is not around.

LMAO seriously people the only real powerhouse out of the 3 is Chouji. He's the only one that'll be able to fight with any type of summon. Now if Animal is invisable what makes you think that Shikamaru would get close to her? A simple crab would take out both Shikamaru & Ino in seconds. The hell hound summon alone would takeout all 3 rather quickly. The Giant Ram would be enough to keep Chouji at bay. We're talking huge arse summons & lots of them. These 3 kids don't stand a chance in hell.

Edit: Animal can just stay on top of a summoned giant bird to avoid shadows. Simply standing on any summon would eliminate Shikamaru from this fight. I say again Chouji is pretty much the only one able to do anything here & it wouldn't be much. Even if caught in a shadow beast that have already been summoned would be able to free her rather quickly. Shikamaru's shadows can be overpowered with brute force.

hmm i say yes to the whole distraction thing but i think that with the info ino has Shikamaru will come up with a plan such as taking out the piercings that we know are chakra receivers so it makes the body stop functioning soon they do the same for the rest of the bodies and the original pain is not captured because he is not around.

Shika, chouji and ino dont have a way of taking out the chakra recievers. Thats why I suggested shika use his SP to capture animal realm, walk him into the middle of the battle and get him crushed by one of his own summons. Then the summons would disapear since the summoner kicked the bucket. Maybe, maybe not?

Shika, chouji and ino dont have a way of taking out the chakra recievers. Thats why I suggested shika use his SP to capture animal realm, walk him into the middle of the battle and get him crushed by one of his own summons. Then the summons would disapear since the summoner kicked the bucket. Maybe, maybe not?
they do all they have to do is have Shikamaru control animal realm and than make him take out the receivers one by one

they do all they have to do is have Shikamaru control animal realm and than make him take out the receivers one by one

What about the summons trying to kill them? They cant sit still taking them out one by one. They would die.

animal realm aka summoner pein is seriously stronger than ino, shika and chouji

my strategy for the three is:chouji battles the summoned animals, shika is
trying to get pein with his shadow but actually placing pein in a position where ino can try her transfer mind technique on him

Had Sakura been a part of this team instead of Ino they mite stand a chance. There simply isn't enough power to form any type of winning strategy sense Animal would be riding on Summons.

How about Lee vs sakura?

Lee is faster so he'll win. Sakura wouldn't land a single hit on the kid. Only possible way for her to win would be by flirting maybe a booby flash followed by a strong punch.

just because hes riding on big animals it doesent mean shika cant get his shadow to him

but u think sakura could kill the monsters with her strength? i guess so, though she is pretty direct, nothing tricky about her

EDIT: lee would win against sakura

Sakura teamed up with Chouji with Shika as a strategist gives them an edge when compared to a team with Ino. Sakura's punches are very much powerful as seen in her fight with Sasori. Knocking a huge block of metal into a wall with just one punch shows us this. Sakura would be able to take down summons with her power while Ino would be completely useless.

I defenitly think lees speed could keep him safe, but if sakura destroys the ground around herself with her strength. I think she can slow him down enough to get in a hit. Sakura also has her medical nin and she might know some of tsunades techniques. sakura touches lee, Lee says "what was that"? Lee goes to punch her and kicks himself in the balls. Sakura screwed up his nervous system.

However, lee could release a couple of gates and wipe the floor with sakura!

I defenitly think lees speed could keep him safe, but if sakura destroys the ground around herself with her strength. I think she can slow him down enough to get in a hit. Sakura also has her medical nin and she might know some of tsunades techniques. sakura touches lee, Lee says "what was that"? Lee goes to punch her and kicks himself in the balls. Sakura screwed up his nervous system.

However, lee could release a couple of gates and wipe the floor with sakura!
Lee is in love (or so he says ) with Sakura all she has to do is wink at him and she would get the opening she needs

while sakura punches the ground to create an earth shake lee gives her a foot to mouth
haha i just thought of that

ino can perform mind switch technique if the enemy is on her sight so if that works its a win, but if it doesent coz peins mind is fkd up then at least maybe that distracts pein so shika can get him, its a win again

I still think Lee's speed even without gates would be more then enough for Sakura. Braking the ground in the hopes it'll make Lee trip is a good strategy however if Lee see her aiming at the ground all he really needs to do is jump to avoid falling on his arse.

if sakura knew something other than taijutsu than she would be twice as powerfull
she should learn a 1000 jutsus

Animal realm is a she not a he.. sorry but that was bugging me.

>.<

*fading out*

if sakura knew something other than taijutsu than she would be twice as powerfull
she should learn a 1000 jutsus
She knows Genjutsu,Ninjutsu,and Taijustsu so
she has quite an advantage on Lee who can only use Taijutsu but he does have the gates so he might still win

i havent seen sakura use genjutsu and ninjutsu, only tai and healing
in combat if she could do all that than she might have an advantage over lee who is still too fast for her to make seals or something

Kakuzu vs Oro?

i havent seen sakura use genjutsu and ninjutsu, only tai and healing
in combat if she could do all that than she might have an advantage over lee who is still too fast for her to make seals or something
kakashi comments on that at the beginning of Shippuden when he is fighting Naruto and Saskura how she was originally a Genjutsu type and how she could become better than the fifth.

Sakura knows Bushin, Replacement, Medical ninjutsu, & Genjutsu releasing. So Yes Sakura actually does use Nin, Tai, & Gen type tactics.

Oro vs Kakazu interesting fight.Which Orochimaru are you using?

ill go with oro
kakuzus hearts need to be destroyed by oros katana, oro can take a lot of damage to his body so ill say oro will crawl underground and stab kakuzu with his katana

The oro who fought kyuubi naruto. He had alot more techniques exept reanimation.

That Orochimaru still had his elemental jutsu sealed away if I'm not mistaken. Bah I think I'll still go with Oro though with Manda at his side(is he allowed) plus all the other Giant snakes he's able to summon I doubt Kakazu would last that long. Orochimaru's sword should be able to pierce Kakazu's stone skin.

That the thing about kakuzu. He can use all five element which makes him able to use many differant combat strategies. I would think kakuzu would release 4 of his hearts to make it a five on one battle. Try and wear oro down with constant attacks. If Oro goes under ground, he might meet up with kakuzus tendon things "?". Im not sure if the grass blade can penatrate kakuzu with his earth style.

Oro can summon some snakes, but if kakuzu is constantly attacking, Oros more likely to summon barriers. Kakuzu has a five to one chance against oro so???

I thought manda would kill oro if he saw him again?

With the mask exposed like that it'll be easier for Orochimaru to target them. Orochimaru's sword can grow allowing him to peirce them from a distance. Even without Manda Orochimaru still has some rather large snakes that could take a fair amount of damage.

Its a five to one in favor for kakuzu, but oro is a slick sob! This one is hard. Their both very smart and have powerful jutsu. If oro could some how have a body or two stashed away, he could use reanimation. If oro could do that, Im sure he would win.

Well reanimation is just cheating lol j/k. But yeah this would be a close fight.

Well reanimation is just cheating lol j/k. But yeah this would be a close fight.
hmm well Oro is very good at using seals he could seal the hearts and only worry about the one in the body

orochimaru is stronger then kakauzu proven already he is way smarter as well orochiamru was the second strongest akatsuki after itachi... nuff said.

orochimaru is stronger then kakauzu proven already he is way smarter as well orochiamru was the second strongest akatsuki after itachi... nuff said.

I can agree oro was the strongest after itachi, but we dont even know if kakuzu was ther yet. That was 13 years ago. I might be wrong though.

I can agree oro was the strongest after itachi, but we dont even know if kakuzu was ther yet. That was 13 years ago. I might be wrong though.
kazuzu was probably around since the begining since he did state he fought the first and we all know madara who created akatsuki did 2 also he was the one who was in charge of the money of the organization so he probably was in the mix since the beginning.

I can agree oro was the strongest after itachi, but we dont even know if kakuzu was ther yet. That was 13 years ago. I might be wrong though.

the only new members were hidan and deidara when oro left they recruited deidara in his place. plus oro's stats are higher:rolleyes: in theory i am sure u can have kakauzu beat orochimaru but in fact kakauzu was a bit weaker.

the only new members were hidan and deidara when oro left they recruited deidara in his place. plus oro's stats are higher:rolleyes: in theory i am sure u can have kakauzu beat orochimaru but in fact kakauzu was a bit weaker.

If kakuzu was there when oro was, Im sure oro knows about his abilities. Kabuoro gave the leaf some info on akatsuki and kakuzu was probably in it. Yeah, If oro knew about his hearts Im sure he would win.

Sorry for the double post.

Haku vs shikamaru?

Haku vs Shikamaru

Hrrmmm.... interesting match up. I assume you mean post timeskip Shikamaru? If this is the case then I'd have to go with Shikamaru on this one. I doubt Haku would even have the time needed to put up his Ice Mirrors before getting caught by Shikamaru's shadow. If Haku rushes Shikamaru like he did Sasuke the battle will be over very quickly.

haku
if shika gets in that ice mirror prison hes dead
though shika has good abilities, he can attack with his shadow but haku can make ice needles and put shika on defence with those

Haku isn't really that fast for one & as we saw with Sasuke he rushed in first. Haku also needs water in the area to even use most of his jutsu. Rushing Shikamaru would be dumb sense it would be easier for him to trap Haku in his shadow that way.

I actually think shika could win. Even though haku is super fast, shika can use his shadow sowing jutsu to spread out his shadow all over the area catching haku as he moves fromone mirrior to another. After catching haku, shika cant use explosive kunai to breakout, but after that Im drawing a blank? Maybe, walk haku into a trap of explosives or poison gas?

i can see shikamaru winning this one
but hakus speed is on pair with shika i think at least in doing ninjutsu
haku can only win if he does the needles and then traps shika in a mirror cage
so it depends on the starting distance between them
and of course if there is enough water for the ice
remember that haku is extremely precise with needles

wow, its a good idea, that shika covers the mirrors with his stretched shadow, didnt think about that
but that would tire shika out and then haku wins

If skika can catch haku, which Im confident he can. He can make haku pick up an explosive kunai and blow himself up OR make haku stabb himself.

imagine haku didnt die and he continued to develop as a ninja, i think he would be uber ninja after the time skip.
so the next pair is time skip haku vs time skip sasuke

haku can do seals with one hand so he became proficient using a weapon (sword or any other one handed weapon, or just throwing needles) and doing ninjutsu at the same time.
he also learned to summon water attacks to set up for his ice (s)kills or he just carries a bottle of water with him. he improved his ice mirror technique.

i think time skip haku would be about stronger than sasuke without ms or even with ms.

Sakura vs temari

Sakura vs temari

tht would b a good fight it would depend on the terrain...in a forest sakura but if they fought in the open temari

Since temari is fights at long distance sakura would have to find a way to get in close. Still, temari is a strategist like shika so that would be difficult. I know sakura could use her strength to counter temaris wind attacks by hitting the ground and ducking into the hole. If sakura can get in close and hit temari it would be over, but if temari keeps her a distance and wears her down. I think temari could win.

I would go with sakura simply because she has genjutsu(according to kakashi)...it's crazy because temari is a jounin and sakura a chunnin...i think the leaf village has different standards than other villages..

i dont think temari is jounin but a chunin... i could be wrong. i give the edge to temari if she keeps her distance... obviously

Uhm...

Temari's fan is a huge plus since her wind can repel any projectile...and her winds would slice sakura?

Hidind in the ground is no good if Temari can still run around and swing her fan.

^ sakura wins that fight, well at least when she masters her genjutsu.

im ready to see kisame vs gai.

kisame vs gai is a draw i think. gai would have to open all gates to kill kisame and that would lead to him also dieing. at the end they would both be dead.

Idk, I honstly think guy opened six gates so he could help neji, lee and ten ten escape the water prisons and kill kisame. I think 3 gates wouldve goten the job done if the others werent around. It would be a great match.

ya know that i think about it, they both will probably die at the end.

Sasuke vs mite gai

now thats what i want to know... sasuke has so much more skills than gai except for hand to hand combat, in that area gai kicks ass..
sasuke also has a bigger range of attack coz of his lightning
and if gai opens 8 gates sasuke can just go hide in a scroll..
so......gai wins
gai kicks sasuke with taijutsu

Guys hidden lotus is his only chance, but sasuke with his sharingan can see the amount of chakra guys putting out and avoids confrentation. I could see guy unleashing a goldly barrage of attacks on sasuke and when its over. It was just a replacement. Sasukes too smooth to be hit with direct attacks.
I dont think sasuke would even need his MS to win this one.

i dont think temari is jounin but a chunin... i could be wrong. i give the edge to temari if she keeps her distance... obviously
You're wrong Temari is indeed a jounin 247-07 (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/247/07/)

As for Temari vs. Sakura Temari would win based on a range issue.

Sasuke vs. Guy I'd have to go with Guy.

Guys hidden lotus is his only chance, but sasuke with his sharingan can see the amount of chakra guys putting out and avoids confrentation. I could see guy unleashing a goldly barrage of attacks on sasuke and when its over. It was just a replacement. Sasukes too smooth to be hit with direct attacks.
I dont think sasuke would even need his MS to win this one.

i dunno cause if itachi showed gai respect when he first showed up at the village. gai wasn't afraid to due battle w/ itachi at all.

i dunno cause if itachi showed gai respect when he first showed up at the village. gai wasn't afraid to due battle w/ itachi at all.

Respect and fear are two differant things. I dont understand why people belittle sasukes abilities? Hes just as good as kakashi, but has far greater endurance and genjutsu. Thats sasuke! Now if you think sasuke would loose to gai, but kakashi could win?:confused:? I know alot of people dont like sasuke, but thats no reason to turn a blindeye towards sasukes abilities. Thats just my oppinion.

yeah, but if gai opens all gates then he can beat anyone except tobi who would teleport to the other end of the world

by the way, this looks more and more like dbz. in the beginning there were a lot of strong characters and now its all about naruto and sasuke, pein and tobi
i mean, what about others? its just like super sayans do everything and picolo, krilin and master oshi just watch
if gai and kakashi can not measure to sasuke and naruto then who in the leaf can?
they are already strongest in their village and thats just stupid

I agree the hidden lotus can pwn almost anybody exept ninja like sasuke and kakashi who cant be hit with direct attacks so easily. Sasuke could see the godly amount of chakra gai puts out and run. Sasuke is arragont, not stupid. Sasuke could use replacement, KBs or even his MS genjutsu to stop gai. If gai had a T/S jutsu it would be diffearnt, but even with all 8 gates realeased. Sasuke could still see whats going on. No he cant keep up, but timing makes up for lack of speed!

if sasuke is anywhere near gai when gai opens all gates then it is over for sasuke.
this is how it would go: gai charges at sasuke with super speed and kicks him...but its kage bunshin.....no problem gai just moves on to the next one
i also think that opening gates would give gai an insight to where his enemy might be but that is just my speculation

Opening all gates would increase all of his abilities 10 fold, but I doubt it would give him ESP. We know sasuke has a T/S just so Id imagine he would use it to get the hell out of there. Seeing gais chakra increasing so much is a great invitation to book it! I just see sasuke making gai waste his hiden lotus on a replacement or Kb and then attacking when it wears off. Sasuke is just as smooth, If not smoother than kakashi. The question you should ask yourself is "can you see kakashi being hit with a direct attack"?

kakashi,,,,,,,,,is crazier than sasuke at inventing things
to beat gai u have to be creative.......and kakashi is more creative
the fact is sasuke would have to escape once gai opens all gates, so if he could escape using a summon like with deidara then sasuke wins, but
i like to think that gai would kick him before sasuke pulls it off
u have a point there.....about sasuke being slick
but sasuke=arrogance and gai=chuck norris

For the record I believe that Gai can beat both Sasuke & Kakashi. If your body is unable to keep up what good will it do you. A quote from rock lee regarding sharingan.

itachi and haku vs present naruto and zabuza

that would be quite a battle ha
i guess itachi and haku win if they take out zabuza fast enough, but naruto can cover for zabuza with his kage bunshins and zabuza knows water clones as well
zabuza........creates mist? i dont know

I agree sasuke weak against high speed Taijutsu before, but since the fight with naruto. Hes learned to coordinate the power of his sharingan and timing skills to anticapate, avoid and counter high speed attacks. Granted, this is years ago so I would imagine hes even better at it now.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/230/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/230/12/

Respect and fear are two differant things. I dont understand why people belittle sasukes abilities? Hes just as good as kakashi, but has far greater endurance and genjutsu. Thats sasuke! Now if you think sasuke would loose to gai, but kakashi could win?:confused:? I know alot of people dont like sasuke, but thats no reason to turn a blindeye towards sasukes abilities. Thats just my oppinion.

im not denying sasuke's abilities, which is at a new level. im denying the fact that u can compare friendly comp. between two friends, with a real fight to the death. ya maybe kakashi and gai swing back in forth as who wins in there comp. but if it was a real fight to the death we wouldn't know who would win.

but what i do know is, gai showed no fear when it came to fighting itachi. gai has speed and experience when dealing with sharingan; if sasuke or itachi cant catch gai in there illusion, then there screwed.

I already know about gais ability to avoid the sharingan by looking at the opponents feet. Thats the whole reason I suggested the fight. Still, even without using genjutsu. I dont think guy can win. He uses diresct attacks with his high speed taijutsu. Direct attacks dont work on slick shinobi like kakashi, sasuke ect. High speed taijutsu wont work anymore since sasuke learned to counter it against naruto in kyuubi mode.

Also, whos to say sasuke wouldnt tie up gai and force him to look in his eyes catching him in genjutsu. "just like what itachi did with kakashi".

My oppinion is that sasuke has this fight!

Okay people leave it the arguing for the knitting club lol

Choji vs Neji

everyone knows neji is stronger than chouji
but neji has to come close to chouji and that gives chouji the chance to slam the ground with his enlarged fists

neji will proably be able to beat choji, it'd take awhile to bring him down.
Neji could block human bolder and stuff with 8 trigrams rotation, but if he's not careful, he could get a High powered, Enlarged, Soilder pill powered, gigantic fist to the face. (butterfly wings)

Here is one,
Hinata Vs. Sakura!

i like hinatas and nejis fighting style better
so hinata blocks sakuras chakra paths with precise hits..... the question is, can she do it before sakura unleashes her power strikes......
i guess sakura wins

The rematch

Gaara Vs Sasuke

gara put deidara to test and even cut off deidaras arm while protecting the village.
but deidara gave up his arm as a part of his strategy.
if its gara that fought deidara, and sasuke now, with his mangekyo then i have to say sasuke wins.
gara relies on his sand to protect him and doesent move his body a lot in a fight. that would give sasuke a chance to cast amateratsu on him....
unless gara would use diversions like sand clones to confuse sasuke sasuke wins. i wonder what kind of a fighter gara is now. i hope he is stronger than sasuke.

Sasuke would kill Gaara. End of story.

Sice earth is weak against lightning. Sasuke could us his chidori nagashi "full body chidori" to wakl through garas sand attacks and land a killing blow. Maybe if gara would move alittle. Hell, Sasuke could probably use a regular genjutsu on gara and win. Now that his bijuu is gone, I dont see him breaking it.

Hmmm that would be an interesting fight and i like both characters.. but with the way sasuke is right now im not so sure he would win against Gaara, but i guess i would have to go with Sasuke. No i go with gaara.. ok i say they both tie.

i cant lie, sasuke would win.

another one: rock lee and neji vs naruto (all up to date)

i think naruto would win
or maybe he wouldnt, neji has a field of vision 360 degrees around so he can locate the real naruto if he is hiding, rock lee and neji are stronger than narutos clones, so they might win

i cant lie, sasuke would win.

another one: rock lee and neji vs naruto (all up to date)

i think naruto would win
or maybe he wouldnt, neji has a field of vision 360 degrees around so he can locate the real naruto if he is hiding, rock lee and neji are stronger than narutos clones, so they might win

Are we talking about kyuubi naruto? I seriously hope so. Neji by himself is challenging enough, but with lee its murder!

Neji the worst person naruto could fight in sage mode because neji could hit one little chakra point unbalancing the NE, turning naruto into a frog.

I think lee vs naruto "no kyuubi" is a better match.

i wanna match someone against pain, but pain seems to uber for anyone to take him 1 vs 6.

If Team Gai is the one found Hidan and Kakuzu instead of Asuma... what will be the outcome?

If that's the case, then TenTen would dead while Neji will be seeking revenge. That'll be very bad for Hidan :D.

Neji pwnz Chouji with ease in a manner of seconds.

Sasuke would eventually beat Gaara after a long drawn out fight. Raiton would crystallize Gaara's sand making it useless to him & also acts as a way around Gaara's ultimate defense. The hardest part for Sasuke would be getting close enough to Gaara.

Lee & Neji vs. Naruto

Neji wouldn't have the speed to hit Naruto's chakra points directly while Naruto is in sage mode. This fight would end up a contest between Gates & Sage mode in my opinion & I'd have to say that Sgae mode should be superior. Naruto winz this fight & he'll do it by taking down Neji first.

Team Gai vs.Hidan & Kakazu?

Immortality wouldn't really matter in the face of a chakra suppressor like Neji. Neji can make short work of Hidan while Tenten, Gai & Lee occupy Kakazu. Sorry but I'm going with team Gai on this one.


New Fight
6 Paths of Pain(God nuke not allowed) vs. Team Konoha (Yamato, Neji, Kiba, Shino, Sakura, & Shikamaru)

six paths:
one uses gravity and his attack range is medium to long, destroys an area around himself
one uses summons for fight, his range is wide because of summons
one uses rockets, his range is long
one absorbs element attacks, his range is short
one extracts souls, his range is short
one does almost the same thing, short range
-all peins are proficient in taijutsu, have coordinated attacks and defense

to increase konoha numbers yamato makes his wood clone
so its basicly like this:
if the six paths are together yamato builds a wooden wall around them and tries to compress them with it, if gravity pein uses his blast he blasts the other peins so he wont use it.
if they are separated neji, kiba and shikamaru take on the short ranged peins.
sakura together with yamato clone takes on the summoner.
shino takes on robotic pein (tries to bug him).
yamato takes on god pein.

My starting lineup for a Konoha victory goes like this.

Yamato vs. God
Kiba vs. Hungry Ghost
Sakura vs. Animal
Neji vs. Demon
Shino vs. Human & Hell
Shikamaru plays backup to the other shinobi & is the tactician.

The goal of Konoha is to split apart the Pains while each one is kept busy by the respective match ups. Shikamaru will aid the others when needed while preventing the Pains from ganging up on someone.

Yamato's abilities (Doton, Suiton, & Mokuton) allow him to attack God with many different types of jutsu. Yamato is also not restricted in chakra as much when compared to someone like Kakashi. With his Doton & Mokuton he can attack God from below & pull him underground long enough to compleatly crush his body with roots & dirt.

Kiba's attacks are pure physical which is perfect for the chakra obsorbing Hungry Ghost. With his speed combined with Akamaru's Kiba should pretty much wipe the floor with this realm.

Sakura's strength allows her to combat Animal's massive summons & take them out with one hit. Sense these are large targets it only plays to her strengths as a Shinobi. Once Sakura can get close enough a few chakra enriched hits on Animal should take her down.

Neji's abilities allow him to dodge the initial long ranged attacks & move in quickly for close ranged combat. Once in close range it forces Demon to rely on close range combat & prevents him from aiding the other realms. I few well placed strikes & (if needed) removal of the pins would take this realm down.

Shino's abilities allow him to take on both Hell & Human because his bugs can cover a wide area while able to drop most opponents in seconds. Shino's bugs would also do well in splitting up each path because of his range.

Shikamaru plays backup & plans everything out for the squad. Individually he's able to trap the close range paths if needed besides maybe Hungry Ghost (It's possible that Hungry Ghost would be able to eat the shadow) & impale them with his shadow. He can also aid Sakura, Neji, or Yamato in their fights by forcing the realms to move with his shadow(force them to dodge the shadow for a setup hit).

Once one realm is down the fight gets that much easier. I wanted to pick a squad of good shinobi that weren't necessarily the heavy hitters (Ororchimaru, Itachi, Jiraiya, Naruto.....) & I think this squad does the job.

Kakashi Vs Orochimaru

Kakashi vs. Orochimaru

Orochimaru if he isn't on his death bed.

vengeance u thought through the battle against six paths, i would do everything the same but i wouldnt put neji against long ranged puppet path. i think shino is better for that job.

kakashi vs orochimaru...........orochimaru is stronger but kakashi wins because of his cool

what about konan vs tsunade..
both are at their best...

tsunade has to deal with paper all day so Im sure konan would be no trouble.
Tsunade unleashes her new attack Paper shreader-no-jutsu.

yeah gr8...hmm anyway tsunade will win...if konan can only use paper she will tear her apart....
so what about 3 legedary sanin vs Pain...

3 sanin win against six peins for sure. jiraiya was able to fight three of them, so im guessing orochimaru could do the same and tsunade can help too. with orochimarus cunning intelect they would gain the advantage pretty soon and i dont think that even a nuke pein did on the village could kill orochimaru and jiraiya.

The three sannin working together i think could easily take out the Pains.. as long as oro isnt on his death bed.

As for tsunade and konan it would be hard to say because we havent seen a lot from konan cept for the fake she can turn into paper, but right now i would have to go with Tsunade.

hey guys. is this week spoiler,

itachi vs sarutobi

imho itachi wins, or it ends in a draw
i think that gives us a description of how strong tobi is coz itachi couldnt go against him

Based on the Saratobi we've seen, I'll say Itachi; I don't know about younger Saratobi (maybe). I'll love to see how the old man would stop Amaterasu and Susano'o.

itachi vs sarutobi

imho itachi wins, or it ends in a draw
i think that gives us a description of how strong tobi is coz itachi couldnt go against him
Itachi. Even though, statistically, Sarutobi had high marks, I'd still assume it'd be difficult for him to break out of strong genjutsu from Itachi. I think Sandaime is more versatile with his ninjutsu, but that doesn't entirely make a winner. Just look at Kakashi. :p

Itachi. Even though, statistically, Sarutobi had high marks, I'd still assume it'd be difficult for him to break out of strong genjutsu from Itachi. I think Sandaime is more versatile with his ninjutsu, but that doesn't entirely make a winner. Just look at Kakashi. :p

Itachi would win maybe from plain youngness sarutobi had a perfect score in genjutsu meaning he can easily overwhlem or out come any genjutsu.

He was able to fight in total darkness which is a genjutsu from shodaime hokage i believe far deadlier then tsukuyomi which can be broken out from..

Itachi would win because he is younger he would win easily but since sarutobi was that bad ass in his prime and still had some left over he would be a threat to itachi. Itachi is versatile that much with ninjutsu he is good at it but doesn't posses to much not that we have seen. Sarutobi can out rank his suiton and katon with earth not to mention sarutobi's katon out ranks itachi's.

Itachi either wins but barely or its a draw should sarutobi summon death god.

Edit: If u really think about it he only lost to orochimaru because he was fighting 3 on 1 most of the time or rather 2 zombies on one if it was 1 on 1 oro wouldn't be alive long enough to tempt sasuke to go to him. The hokage aren't a joke the 4 of em i mean each one stronger then the last and each one was praised as the strongest in their time at least 3 out of the 4 were. with the 4th being praised as the greatest all time.

Itachi would rape sarutobi! It took everything sautobi had to defend himself against Oro. If it wasnt for the 4ths jutsu, sarutobi probably wouldve died at the hands of oro instead of the jutsu and the village might have fallen. Itachi was too much for Oro the same way oro was too much for sarutobi. Im sure itachi would win this one.

now I dont know what sarutobi was capable of when he was younger so that would be a differant fight.

Itachi would win maybe from plain youngnessStatistically, no. Itachi has quite low stamina. If Itachi wins, it won't be because of attrition.

sarutobi had a perfect score in genjutsu meaning he can easily overwhlem or out come any genjutsu.There are no specifics mentioned in that perfect score, so we can't just assume he's perfect both offensively and defensively, especially since he's shown absolutely nothing to display either side.

He was able to fight in total darknessHe also seemed familiar with that genjutsu, and was also forced to pull out his trump card just to deal with it. I'm sorry, but Tsukuyomi >>>> that dark genjutsu Hashirama used during that fight.

which is a genjutsu from shodaime hokage i believe far deadlier then tsukuyomi which can be broken out from..The only known way of breaking out of Tsukuyomi is by having a Sharingan (I think, or being an Uchiha), or if the user chooses to release it. And if we really want to get into specifics, any skilled Uchiha should be able to break out of Shodaime's genjutsu, being that a 3 tomoe Sharingan can see through genjutsu. So it took a huge trump card like the Death God to get Sarutobi out of that genjutsu, while it takes a skilled Sharingan user (or some such) to have a CHANCE at breaking Tsukuyomi.

Itachi would win because he is youngerAnd was very ill, and has very low stamina. Not saying he won't win, but don't try and say that the only reason Itachi would win against someone like old Sarutobi is because of his age. Itachi would win, being ill and low on stamina, anyway.

he would win easily but since sarutobi was that bad ass in his prime and still had some left over he would be a threat to itachi.We've no idea what Sarutobi was capable of in his prime, so let's not go by hype, mmkay? :p

Itachi is versatile that much with ninjutsu he is good at it but doesn't posses to much not that we have seen.Honestly, Itachi doesn't need to be that versatile. He's not Kakashi. He's a genjutsu God.

Sarutobi can out rank his suiton and katon with earth not to mention sarutobi's katon out ranks itachi's.Do you really think those elemental ninjutsu will even be a factor here? I don't.

Itachi either wins but barely or its a draw should sarutobi summon death god.Barely? So you're saying the guy who lost to Orochimaru, will be pulling off a win against a guy who would, and has, utterly rape stomped Orochimaru? o_O

Edit: If u really think about it he only lost to orochimaru because he was fighting 3 on 1 most of the time or rather 2 zombies on one if it was 1 on 1 oro wouldn't be alive long enough to tempt sasuke to go to him.That doesn't matter, Edo Tensei is part of Orochimaru's moveset. That's like saying Jiraiya or whoever wouldn't win fights if it weren't for their summons.

The hokage aren't a joke the 4 of em i mean each one stronger then the lastI never implied they were jokes, but Itachi was clearly Kage level himself. Him not having the title doesn't mean he couldn't defeat Hokages like Nidaime, Sandaime, and Godaime. I'm not going to touch Shodaime nor Yondaime, since Shodaime defeated Madara, and Yondaime...well, yeah. :p

and each one was praised as the strongest in their time at least 3 out of the 4 were. with the 4th being praised as the greatest all time.Yeah, problem is, a lot of problem were praised as the strongest of their time, not just Kages. I even recall Madara being called that. Hype doesn't mean much.

Statistically, no. Itachi has quite low stamina. If Itachi wins, it won't be because of attrition. I am pretty sure a 21 year even sick still had more breath then sarutobi he is 21 years old after all right.... but hat's a mute point anyways

There are no specifics mentioned in that perfect score, so we can't just assume he's perfect both offensively and defensively, especially since he's shown absolutely nothing to display either side.Sure there is its a 10 thus meaning he knows how to deal with genjutsu it's a data book buddy... i won't argue something proven anymore.

He also seemed familiar with that genjutsu, and was also forced to pull out his trump card just to deal with it. I'm sorry, but Tsukuyomi >>>> that dark genjutsu Hashirama used during that fight. Correction he would have pulled out that death god any ways because those bodies cannot be killed plain and simple if itachi was in his place he would need susanoo to win as well so please don't say stuff like ehe couldn't get out of it he needed death god cause without death god he would lose anyways since the only way to kill those zombies is to rip them out.(their souls)

The only known way of breaking out of Tsukuyomi is by having a Sharingan (I think, or being an Uchiha), or if the user chooses to release it. And if we really want to get into specifics, any skilled Uchiha should be able to break out of Shodaime's genjutsu, being that a 3 tomoe Sharingan can see through genjutsu. So it took a huge trump card like the Death God to get Sarutobi out of that genjutsu, while it takes a skilled Sharingan user (or some such) to have a CHANCE at breaking Tsukuyomi.
As i mentioned before no matter how you look at it death god would be used either way why not sooner you know what i mean because breaking from a strong genjutsu takes chakra as well being he was old as heck he needed the right moment which was then.. Itachi would have gone susanoo as well in that position.

And was very ill, and has very low stamina. Not saying he won't win, but don't try and say that the only reason Itachi would win against someone like old Sarutobi is because of his age. Itachi would win, being ill and low on stamina, anyway.He would win only because he is younger true he was sick but i doubt he had less in him then an old man way past his expiration date.

We've no idea what Sarutobi was capable of in his prime, so let's not go by hype, mmkay? :p mmno It was stated mre then once that he was god of ninja in his prime nuff said u aren't called a god by everyone for nothing see pain calls himself god lmaoooo nobody really thinks he is but sarutobi was given that name and thats how they knew him even orochiamru said it when they fought forgot where though:confused:

Honestly, Itachi doesn't need to be that versatile. He's not Kakashi. He's a genjutsu God. He isn't fighting a push over buddy he is fighting a hokage one that it took orochimaru 2 zombie hokage 1 of being the greatest ninja at his time and his younger brother vs a 69 year old man.... 1 on 1 would be a bit different since u won't waste ur time. as i said either way itachi wins or draws there is no other outcome.

Do you really think those elemental ninjutsu will even be a factor here? I don't. yeah because a guy who can use elemental fusions like they are nothing would def not bother itachi if i remember thats what kisame said"itachi fought him through his head(him aka 4 tails) not directly so he doesn't know what went on with 1 on 1 like kisame does this the same thing only this is a hokage who knows how to counter genjutsu and got a perfect score on it from mr manga creator should we argue the authors words seems kind of dull to me so i won't.

Barely? So you're saying the guy who lost to Orochimaru, will be pulling off a win against a guy who would, and has, utterly rape stomped Orochimaru? o_OPut itachi 3 on 1 like sarutobi was fighting he would not win either he be forced to go susanoo so yeah i am saying that itachi vs sarutobi would be more fair then orochiamru and 2 other zombie hokages..... itachi wouldn't win either he would die killing the bodies since it said that susano drains your life force.

That doesn't matter, Edo Tensei is part of Orochimaru's moveset. That's like saying Jiraiya or whoever wouldn't win fights if it weren't for their summons. cept jiraiya and itachi are equal lmaooo even without his summons he still is golden i'm just proving a point that itachi in that situation would need to use susanoo as well. Sarutobi didn't use death god because he couldn't get out he used it because it wouldn't matter what he tried he would die anyways cause he was old and there was 3 vs 1.

I never implied they were jokes, but Itachi was clearly Kage level himself. Him not having the title doesn't mean he couldn't defeat Hokages like Nidaime, Sandaime, and Godaime. I'm not going to touch Shodaime nor Yondaime, since Shodaime defeated Madara, and Yondaime...well, yeah. :p sandaime surpassed shodaime :p they were teacher and students and youi don;t get called god of ninja in your prime because ur weaker then the past itachi would win just not as easy as anyone would think that's about it. the result wouldn;t change even if he was healthy because then sarutobi could always shinigami his ass and boom.

Yeah, problem is, a lot of problem were praised as the strongest of their time, not just Kages. I even recall Madara being called that. Hype doesn't mean much.Nope these were the people whowere stated to be something.

Shodaime - called by madara himself the greatest ninja in his time and the only man he looked up to. so madara was weaker lol.

Sandaime - was praised as the god of ninja in phis prime its one thing when someone like pain praises himself like that and another when others give u that title before u ask for proof mikey he was sarutobi lmaoo he wouldn't call himself anything lol.

Yondaime - greatest hokage ever strongest ninja leaf ever produced etc etc yellow flash etc etc man who defeated the kyuubi etc etc and w/e


then we have the losers of today

MADARA - expired prune

pain - fan his own self nobody really takes him serious lol i mean naruto shattered his body in one hit

----- - some other loser that's going to show up soon

I am pretty sure a 21 year even sick still had more breath then sarutobi he is 21 years old after all right.... but hat's a mute point anywaysMmm, I don't know. What were Sarutobi's stats, as far as stamina go? Because, Itachi had a 2. A two. o_O

Sure there is its a 10 thus meaning he knows how to deal with genjutsu it's a data book buddy... i won't argue something proven anymore.I'm not saying he wouldn't know how to deal with genjutsu lol. I'm saying his five in genjutsu doesn't mean he's both offensively and defensively strong in that field. He's probably strong defensively, but not offensively.

Correction he would have pulled out that death god any ways because those bodies cannot be killed plain and simple if itachi was in his place he would need susanoo to win as well so please don't say stuff like ehe couldn't get out of it he needed death god cause without death god he would lose anyways since the only way to kill those zombies is to rip them out.(their souls)What exactly does this have to do with what you quoted? You know, Tsukuyomi > that dark genjutsu?

As i mentioned before no matter how you look at it death god would be used either way why not sooner you know what i mean because breaking from a strong genjutsu takes chakra as well being he was old as heck he needed the right moment which was then.. Itachi would have gone susanoo as well in that position.I'm a little confused here. Death God would have been used anyway, against Itachi, or Orochimaru?

He would win only because he is younger true he was sick but i doubt he had less in him then an old man way past his expiration date.His 2 in stamina just makes it look very bad. >.>

mmno It was stated mre then once that he was god of ninja in his prime nuff said u aren't called a god by everyone for nothingI thought he was called the professor. Anyway, that's all hype still. Things like that don't matter in versus topics, now do they? Is Ninja A going to defeat Ninja B by default just because Ninja A was called a God? No.

see pain calls himself god lmaooooPlease. Pain calls himself a God, yet was nearly defeated by Jiraiya, who isn't a God. His Super Rocket Punch body was decimated by a Raikiri, yeah, some God. >.> And now he's about to get his ass kicked by Naruto. Hype = nothing outside of the manga.

nobody really thinks he is but sarutobi was given that name and thats how they knew him even orochiamru said it when they fought forgot where though:confused:lol

He isn't fighting a push over buddy he is fighting a hokageRight, I didn't say anything against Sarutobi that would imply that he was weak.

one that it took orochimaru 2 zombie hokage 1 of being the greatest ninja at his time and his younger brother vs a 69 year old man....Yeah, but remember, Itachi > Orochimaru by default. :p

1 on 1 would be a bit different since u won't waste ur time. as i said either way itachi wins or draws there is no other outcome.No, Itachi wins, there is no draw. He's a skilled, Kage level Uchiha who isn't an arrogant ass. He won't try and mess around as if he were Sasuke, then proceed to get busted up by some stereo typed jinchuuriki lol. Though it would be interesting to see if Death God can get through Susanoo's defenses.

yeah because a guy who can use elemental fusionsI stopped reading there. No offense, I'm sure whatever else you said afterwards may have been nice, but those elemental fusions you mention were filler in the anime. Not manga.

Put itachi 3 on 1 like sarutobi was fighting he would not win eitherHe might. We don't know just how sick he was, BTS. We know Itachi can own Orochimaru himself, so all he really needs to do is get to him first. Or, use his black flames on the zombies, then deal with Orochimaru. The zombies can regenerate, but what good is that when all they'll keep doing is burning down?

he be forced to go susanooIn a worse case scenario, sure.

so yeah i am saying that itachi vs sarutobi would be more fair then orochiamru and 2 other zombie hokages.....You keep mentioning the zombies as seperate entities lol. As I said, Edo Tensei is part of Orochimaru's moveset. They're almost like summons.

itachi wouldn't win either he would die killing the bodies since it said that susano drains your life force.Yes, it does drain the users life force. But again, we don't know how sick Itachi was BTS. He was able to enough to use MS quite a few more times than he did PTS, before dying.

cept jiraiya and itachi are equal lmaoooI didn't say they weren't. -_-'

even without his summons he still is goldenI know that! o_O I didn't say he wasn't. But pointing out, and this goes to anyone else, that Oro only won because of his zombies, or saying Oro and his zombies won, or saying Oro and the Kages won, that makes no sense, since the technique itself was part of his moveset. It's irrelevant whether they were zombies or Kages.

i'm just proving a point that itachi in that situation would need to use susanoo as well.In a worse case scenario, yes. His black flames would deal with the two zombies, after that, Itachi would just proceed to own Orochimaru like before, or show off and use Susanoo.

Sarutobi didn't use death god because he couldn't get out he used it because it wouldn't matter what he tried he would die anyways cause he was old and there was 3 vs 1.So you're implying that Sarutobi could have broken out of that dark genjutsu?

sandaime surpassed shodaime :p they were teacher and students and youi don;t get called god of ninja in your prime because ur weaker then the pastWhen was it stated that Sandaime > Shodaime? Just curious.

itachi would win just not as easy as anyone would think that's about it. the result wouldn;t change even if he was healthy because then sarutobi could always shinigami his ass and boom.I didn't say Itachi would win easily. *shrug*

By the way, show me where it states that Yondaime was called the strongest ninja the Leaf ever produced. :p

here we go again... another word fight....

any ways... its hard to determine who will win on itachi vs sarutobi...

lets say it was itachi prime vs sarutobi prime... to me it would be close match both would use their last resort jutsu to win... (susanoo & shinigami jutsu)

here's the scenario if susanoo & shinigami jutsu uses against each other, who would win? so far both are sealing jutsu...

Mmm, I don't know. What were Sarutobi's stats, as far as stamina go? Because, Itachi had a 2. A two. o_OThe first data book went by tens so if 2 in stamina in a 5 point range then a 6 for stamina in a 10 point range is the same as 2 in a 5 lol. 2.5 is just 2.5 away from 5 6 is a whole 4 digits lol..

I'm not saying he wouldn't know how to deal with genjutsu lol. I'm saying his five in genjutsu doesn't mean he's both offensively and defensively strong in that field. He's probably strong defensively, but not offensively. Defense is all you need in a genjutsu fight itachi as you mentioned in this post isn't some newb like sasuke who shows off once he sees genjutsu is worthless he will proceed amaterasu which can be countered with a freakin replacement...



I'm a little confused here. Death God would have been used anyway, against Itachi, or Orochimaru?orochiamru since those zombies cannot be killed by anything. Also when you said itachi would amaterasu those summons you do realize amaterasu stops going once it hits the target those things would burn down to ash then regenerate and bam up again.



I thought he was called the professor. Anyway, that's all hype still. Things like that don't matter in versus topics, now do they? Is Ninja A going to defeat Ninja B by default just because Ninja A was called a God? No.
He was called both god of ninja because he had no equal and professor for knowing all the jutsu in konoha... Like i said hype not hype he got that name for a reason right h didn't just magically sprout it over night come on this is stupid thing to argue... it's only hype when 1 or 2 people say it not when a whole shinobi world says it;)







No, Itachi wins, there is no draw. He's a skilled, Kage level Uchiha who isn't an arrogant ass. He won't try and mess around as if he were Sasuke, then proceed to get busted up by some stereo typed jinchuuriki lol. Though it would be interesting to see if Death God can get through Susanoo's defenses.He is a skilled uchiha great and sarutobi was the god of ninja in his prime and was taught by a man who wiped up the floors with itachi's teacher :D



He might. We don't know just how sick he was, BTS. We know Itachi can own Orochimaru himself, so all he really needs to do is get to him first. Or, use his black flames on the zombies, then deal with Orochimaru. The zombies can regenerate, but what good is that when all they'll keep doing is burning down?



You keep mentioning the zombies as seperate entities lol. As I said, Edo Tensei is part of Orochimaru's moveset. They're almost like summons. they are still fighting 1 on 2 and they cannot be killed by any attack not even amaterasu cause it stops after it hits proof is in the manga. amaterasu only goes till it hits the target and completely gets rid of them but these guys can regenerate from nothing thus they cannot be killed a an attack only by a soul spirit like death god or susanoo and last i checked itachi didn't have a time space jutsu to lob off oro's head befroe he can finish seals. and just a sa whole itachi in that situation would do what the third did.







So you're implying that Sarutobi could have broken out of that dark genjutsu? I'm not implying it i am saying it a perfect score in genjutsu even if it is defense isn't there for nothing... just like his name wasn't given to him by 1 or 2 people everyone knew him by that.




By the way, show me where it states that Yondaime was called the strongest ninja the Leaf ever produced. :pi am not searching through 429 chapters for that if you read it from the start you should know yourself.

Okay, you win this one, mainly because I'm too lazy to counter your points. xD

Oh, I didn't read from the beginning, so please, enlighten me be showing me where it states that Yondaime was the strongest ninja the Leaf ever produced. :p

Unless of course, it was never stated.

=o

New fight!

Lee & Neji vs Itachi

I'm not crazy, just hear me out. >.>

PTS for all characters. Lee and Neji can use everything they've shown so far in the manga. Itachi has no Sharingan, nor his MS, so it's base Itachi.

Lee & Neji vs Itachi

I'm not crazy, just hear me out. >.>

PTS for all characters. Lee and Neji can use everything they've shown so far in the manga. Itachi has no Sharingan, nor his MS, so it's base Itachi.


itachi is a dead meat... having no sharingan... he would be ordinary jounin ninja e.g. kakashi w/o sharingan... probably he would use ordinary genjutsu, taijutsu & ninjutsu skill... so far we've seen his strong jutsu needed sharingan..

also neji is a genius plus byakugan that would be lethal combo especially having team-up w/ lee....

itachi can still use genjutsu with body parts still use exploding kage bushinn crow genjutsu double layered genjutsu he is the genjutsu king those 2 stand no chance.

itachi can still use genjutsu with body parts still use exploding kage bushinn crow genjutsu double layered genjutsu he is the genjutsu king those 2 stand no chance.
I was waiting for someone to say that. :p

Wouldn't opening up the gates, like, disrupt the genjutsu?

someone said that itachi would use amateratsu on zombie kages and then they would just revive after that...true, but itachi could seal those kages with susano.

itachi without sharingan vs neji and lee... neji and lee win, itachi is still strong even without sharingan but all of his ultimate moves come from sharingan, including better fight perception, so he would lose.

I was waiting for someone to say that. :p

Wouldn't opening up the gates, like, disrupt the genjutsu?

lol even when it does which it will itachi would have already owned lee well before that he is also faster then lee and neji and neji's greatest post time skip feature is his little chakra blast which konoahamru can jump and dodge.

i am also pretty sure that itachi knows all about the hyuuga and their abilities he was around way longer then those pip squiks i wouldn't be surprised if he knew more about the hyuuga then neji himself.

itachi without sharingan vs neji and lee... neji and lee win, itachi is still strong even without sharingan but all of his ultimate moves come from sharingan, including better fight perception, so he would lose.
That's not fair at all. Itachi needs the regular Sharingan just to contend with those two. Neji and Lee should win this one.

That's not fair at all. Itachi needs the regular Sharingan just to contend with those two. Neji and Lee should win this one.

not true itachi didn't become anbu squad captain for his sharingan you don't get these kind of titles just like that u have to be skilled extremely skilled..

He is fast strong great at taijutsu can use ninjutsu elementally fire and water can cast genjutsu with his fingers lee has no genjutsu defense at all he is horrible his genjutsu stats are 1.5 i think...

and neji can't hang with itachi either. would be a decent fight though

itachi without his sharingan? I think neji by himself could win that. Itachis genjutsu wont work on someone with that much chakra control. thats what the byakugan does. Nejis chakra control is so good, he can fire it at opponents like Ki blast. If itachi is dumb enough to try taijtsu against neji, then be my guest. Neji would shut itachi down without his sharingan. Itachis ninjutsu are useless against nejis rotation. Theres not really anything itachi can do without his sharingan against Neji.

Without the sharingan neji wins.

how abt 8 tails jinchuriki vs 9 tails jinchurriki

both can control there beasts :D

naruto would win, hes already too strong for my taste and if he would master his jinchuriki he would be even more uber strong and would win against killer bee.

what abt Minato Namikaze vs Itachi Uchiha...both are at their best..

i wud go for Minato....

this is a hard one. i d go for itachi uchiha to win.

Minato would murder itachi!

Kabuto vs auma?