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The Special One
11-06-2009, 12:31 AM
His shikai has a mirror effect an illusion where ppl think they are hitting him but are really hitting a fake reflection im sure his banki will have something to do with the moon.

Oh lord, that would make Madara's plot and Aizen's Bankai one in the same.

T9F
11-06-2009, 01:40 AM
told u uchiha madara was aizens bankai. haha jk jk.

"mirror flower water moon" ..... most of the zanpakutos in this manga have homo names. just sayin'.

Tsunami!!
11-09-2009, 11:09 PM
I'm pretty sure Ichigo will remain useless and then the chapter will end at others asking amongst themselves why Ichigo can't do anything. Then the chapter after that, Aizen is gonna flee. An so a new plot arc begins, just so Kubo Tite can try and patch the plot holes.

Skullbat01
11-10-2009, 06:02 PM
probably id like to think that given the power of an ongoing plot he would be able to sit down and pad thing out a bit

sikfearless0
11-11-2009, 11:50 AM
so any spoilers so far?? I really hope there is reasoning behind aizens defeat and not him just being defeated because of plot. Or just a possible out come.

The Special One
11-11-2009, 12:26 PM
藍染を討つ為、現世へ急ぐ一護。果たして勝機を掴むことが出来るのか…! ?
In order to attack Aizen, Ichigo hurries to the real world. However, the chance of winning is....!?
ガルガンダを走る一護、卯の花
Ichigo and Unohana is running in the garganta
一護の霊圧がバラバラなのか、道が途切れる
Ichigo's reiatsu is disorganized, so their path breaks up.
卯『…
黒崎さん よろしければ私が前を走りましょうか?』
Unohana: ...
Kurosaki-san, perhaps I should be running in front?
一『え?イヤいいよ霊圧の消費を心配してくれ~なら大丈夫だ』
Ichigo: Eh? No, it's ok, I'm just worried about my reiatsu consumption
話を遮り あの恐怖顔の卯の花『よろしければ私が前をはしりましょうか』
He gets interrupted by Unohana's terrifying face: Perhaps it would be better for me to run in front?
一、ビビリ顔『… …はい …お願いします  …すいませんでした』
Ichigo (scared face): .... .... Yes..... Please..... Thank you

Bleach 382
The United Front [Discordeque Mix]

卯の花が前を走り 綺麗な道が出来る
Unohana is running in front. The path is much better now.
一『うおお… 隊長格の霊圧でやると こんなキレイな道になんのか
差がありすぎて さすがにショックだ…』
Ichigo: Ooooh... There really is a difference when Taichou-level reiatsu is used
卯『何をいっしょるのです 霊圧では貴方もにたようなものですよ
見たところ怪我も癒えてる様ですし 万全の霊圧で あの有様ということは
生来霊圧が雑だから不向きなのでしょう』
Unohana: What are you saying, your reiatsu is also of that level, you can see where the wounds are healed, that kind of completely recovered reiatsu is unsuitably rough to be natural
一『そ…そんなことねーよ! 霊圧が全快してりゃ もうちょいイケるって !』
Ichigo: N... no, it's not like that! My reiatsu's not really recovered, but I had to go!
卯『あらまあ 寝言にしては目が開き過ぎですよ』
Unohana: Oh my, are you talking in your sleep when your eyes are already wide open?
一『ちょっと!言うことキツくねえ!?さっきから! つーか寝言でも冗談でもねえよ! !
Ichigo: Waitaminute! Didn't you hear what I just said?! I'm not making this up!!!
見てくれよこれ! 服が右ソデしかねえだろ?
Look, here! I only have my right sleeve, right?
俺の卍解じゃ死覇装も変化すんだけどさ どうもこの変化した死覇装も含めて卍解みたい なんだ
My bankai uniform got altered somehow, no matter how it got damaged, it's still my bankai outfit
その証拠にさっき井上にキズを治してもらった時 死覇装はちょっとしか直んなかったん だ
Well, the proof was when Inoue healed my wounds before, my uniform was also healed
いつもは井上の治療で死覇装も直るのに なんでだろうって思って訊いたら
Everytime Inoue heals me, my uniform will always get healed. What the hell was up with that, I thought
どうも井上はキズを治すのは速いけど霊圧を回復させんのは遅いらしいんだ
But no matter how fast Inoue heals my wounds, my reiatsu's slow to recover
けどそん時は下でルキア達がやられてたから急いでて… 結局霊圧は回復さ せねえまま
But at that time, Rukia and everyone were in trouble, so I had to hurry... My reiatsu will recover eventually, I suppose
来ちゃったんだよ だから今の俺の霊圧はこんくらいってこと!
Well, I'm already here. That's why, my reiatsu is at this level right now
なっ!全快なら―― …』
Anyway! At full recovery--...
ビックリ顔卯の花(そんなバカな あの死覇装は普段と比べると半分も無い  今の霊圧が 半分?)
Unohana makes a surprised face (Impossible. About half of that uniform is gone... so his reiatsu is currently at half level?)
一『?』
Ichigo: ?
卯(私は その霊圧を 隊長格に匹敵する万全の霊圧だと錯覚していた―― ?)
Unohana: I.... that reiatsu..... compared to a completely recovered captain-level reiatsu--?
卯『…黒崎さん やはり前を走ってください
今から移動を続けながら 貴方の霊圧を限界まで回復させます』
Unohana: ... Kurosaki-san, you should run in front, after all, while we're in transit, I'll be testing the limits of your reiatsu
一『移動…って走りながらか? そんなことでき…』
Ichigo: In transi.... while we're running? You can do that...
卯『できます 本来の鬼道による治療では多くの場合霊圧の回復を先に行い ます
それにより回復した内部霊圧と術者による外部霊圧とで肉体の回復を図るの です
肉体が回復している状態での霊圧の回復など雑作もないこと  さあ黒崎さ ん
前へ』
Unohana: Yes. Usually, lots of healing kidou is required for recovering reiatsu. Besides, the recovered internal reiatsu and the healer's external reiatsu are both needed. While the body is in the recovering state, the reiatsu's recovery and so on shouldn't be troubled. Anyway, move to the front, Kurosaki-san
卯(今の霊圧が本当に限界地の半分なら―… 彼は本当に真の切り札になり得るかもしれ ない―…!)
Unohana (If your current reiatsu is really just half of it's full potential-.... Then he truly is a trump card that we need-....! )

剣『うおおおおおおおおおおらあ』
ヤミーの脚?切り落とす
Kenpachi: OooooooOOOOOOORAAAA
Yami's leg(?) is cut off
剣『…ちっ』
Ken: ... shit
倒れてるヤミーの顔の前に立つ剣八
In front of a collapsing Yami stands Kenpachi
剣『ようやく ボッ倒れやがったか頑丈な野郎だ
オイ終えかデカいの
おオい 朽木白哉ア!!こいつアもうダメだ!!後はてめえにやるよ!!』
Kenpachi: What a sturdy bastard, takes too long to take down. Hey, ya finished, big guy? Oi, Kuchiki Byakuyaa!! This guy's done for!! You can have him now!!
白『…… ……言葉の意味が解らぬが』
Byakuya: ..... ..... I do not understand the meaning of those words
剣『バカか てめえは 今まで見てるばっかでヒマだっただろうが
あとは止めだけだから てめえにゆずってやるっつってんだ』
Kenpachi: Are you an idiot? Until now you've just been sitting there watching, I'm letting you have the finishing blow
白『…成程 私に貴様の半端な仕事の片付けをしろと言っているのか 身の 程を知れ』
Byakuya: .... Indeed. Do I have to be the one to pick your messy left-overs, you should know your place.
剣『弱えエ奴に止めを差すのは性に合わねえんだ ごちゃごちゃ言ってねえ でやれよ』
Kenpachi: So you can't even put that weakened bastard out of his misery, stop blabbering and do it
白『断る とどめを刺すなど 兄如き蛮人にこそ似合いの仕事だ』
Byakuya: I refuse. Delivering the measly final blow is more suited to a barbarian like you
剣『…ンだとオ!?』
Kenpachi: WHAT'D YOU SAY?!
白、剣の間に巨大な手が入る(地面に平手)
A gigantic hand appears between Kenpachi and Byakuya (palm on the earth)
ヤミー『くそっ… くそっ…』
Yami: Shit.... Shit....
ヤミー大口開けてセロ打つ
Yami shoots a cero out of his mouth
走り交わす剣八『大したセロだぜ この野郎まだチカラ余ってんじゃねえか …』
Kenpachi while parrying: That's quite a cero, you still got that much power in you, eh
白『全くだ よくもこの状態で「あとは止めだけ」などと言えたものだ
浅薄な見立てに哀れみすら憶えるな』
Byakuya: Of course, "he just needs the final blow" you said, what a shallow prediction, I'll remember this with pity
剣『ハッ 俺にとっちゃあのくらいで後は止めなんだよ てめえにゃ荷が重かったみてえ だがな!』
Kenpachi: Ha, I said you could have the final blow when I'm done, to see if you were capable of it!
白、剣をチラ見  、刀を地面に落とし『…面白い』 (卍解)
Kenpachi takes off the patch, Byakuya's sword is pierced into the ground: Interesting (Bankai)
瞬歩しながら白『荷が重いかどうか― その身を以て確かめるが良い』
In the middle of shunpo, Byakuya: Which one is capable of it- that sounds like an interesting idea
剣『面白れえ!! 俺もてめえとは一遍戦り合ってみたかったんだ!』
Kenpachi: Interesting!! I've always wanted to try fighting you at least once!!!
ヤミーが二人の前に 剣白『『…邪魔だ』』
Yami is in front of both of them. Kenpachi+Byakuya: You're in the way!
剣白『失せろ!!!!』
Both: Get out of my sight!!!!
ヤミーの顔面斬る二人
The two slash at his face


結果オーラ…イ!?
Will the conclusion be alright?!
終わり。サーセイ★
The end.
次号作者取材のため休載させていただきます。
There will be a break next week for research

Kenpachi and Byakuya finally almost getting rid of Yammy (he'll live another chapter). Unohana and Ichigo still talking.lol

Not a lot of things happened but oh well.

Kubo gathering evidence, so no chapter next week.lol

Why does that remind me of something?

sikfearless0
11-11-2009, 03:23 PM
Wow, he gives us shit information for the past 3 weeks and then he takes a break. Yammi is shit he should really die. That talk between Ichigo and Unohana talking seems really pointles..

T9F
11-11-2009, 11:18 PM
i love how hes taking a break for research. what could you possibly research about bleach? lol he's gonna do research on fandoms and troll us all! FOR REAL!

iankage
11-12-2009, 12:33 AM
wait!!!!!!! i have a livid image of Aizen and Madara dancing to an MC HAMMER TRACK and making all sorts of faces at kubo.
Aizen: CAN'T TOUCH THIS dan da da da da da da da CAN'T TOUCH THIS.

Kubo: how did i get here, must find way out.

Kishi: oh just tell them you r takin next week off 4 research and throw in Inoue confessing to ishida that she loves and watch the shit storm that follows, worked for me!. heh.

iankage
11-12-2009, 05:50 AM
Major troll on the way: Oh so unohana notices that ichigo's reiatsu is captain level at only half recovery. heh the ichigo machine just spat out something new. SOO when he's fully recovered he'll have twice a captain's reiatsu "EVIL LAUGH" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA major troll right there, though that would explain why he wasn't able to take yammy in one blow (fail Espada) but there still isn't a clarification on the failed mask attempt, Kubo might feed us some crap about the hollow transformation finally being complete.

BTW is it me or is Ichigo dodging the hollow mask tranformation with unohana? is ther any member of the Gotei 13 who knows?

T9F
11-12-2009, 02:57 PM
BTW is it me or is Ichigo dodging the hollow mask tranformation with unohana? is ther any member of the Gotei 13 who knows?

byakuya fought against it so i would assume he would remember. unless hes stupid and has short term memory lol. also rukia knows for sure.

Vengeance
11-15-2009, 01:08 PM
From the Gotei 13 only Byakuya, Kenpachi, & Rukia should know of his hollow mask if I remember right. Unless they talked about it with the other captains no one else should know & I doubt they would say anything given there relationship with Ichigo. That mask should be considered taboo when looking at what happened with the original Vizard. The Captain Commander shouldn't let that slide once he finds out. I have a theory were after this arc Ichigo is hunted by Squad Zero because everyone finds out what he is.

This is why I hate bleach fillers because they show Ichigo using it in front of the Captain Commander as if it's no big deal when in reality it should be a huge fucking deal.

-SassyLady-
11-15-2009, 07:06 PM
ha ha about two days ago i finished the new chap and its funny when kenpachi and byakuya were almost about to fight i had to immediately pause and make popcorn for the show that was about to begin:)

Ogihci
11-19-2009, 02:15 AM
From the Gotei 13 only Byakuya, Kenpachi, & Rukia should know of his hollow mask if I remember right. Unless they talked about it with the other captains no one else should know & I doubt they would say anything given there relationship with Ichigo.

When has Ichi go even had the opportunity to use it in front of anybody else. after he learns how to use it he never had a need of going back to SS. And when the SS captains came to Earth to fight the Arrancar, Ichigo without hesistation used it in front of Toshiro and the other ppl that came over (including Renji). I think he could care less if he's allowed to use it or not and he prolly doesn't know he isn't allowed to use it. No one explained what happened to the Vaizards to him.

Capt. commander isn't stupid. He prolly already knows Ichigo can use his mask. That one time Ichigo did use his mask in SS when fighting Byakuya, the Capt, Commander prolly sensed his spike in reiatsu.

SasukeWorldsGreatest
11-19-2009, 04:45 AM
From the Gotei 13 only Byakuya, Kenpachi, & Rukia should know of his hollow mask if I remember right. Unless they talked about it with the other captains no one else should know & I doubt they would say anything given there relationship with Ichigo. That mask should be considered taboo when looking at what happened with the original Vizard. The Captain Commander shouldn't let that slide once he finds out. I have a theory were after this arc Ichigo is hunted by Squad Zero because everyone finds out what he is.

This is why I hate bleach fillers because they show Ichigo using it in front of the Captain Commander as if it's no big deal when in reality it should be a huge fucking deal.

I watched the fillers kinda close enough to ask you where you have seen such an situation where he clearly shows it to the captain commander? I'm just curious sry :S I havent seen a situation like this.

NiceShot
11-19-2009, 05:46 AM
I can answer that question,its the episode where Ichigo fights that fake captain who has the knock-off zanpaktou.Should be around the 180 episodes.

bot: this manga should end already,i predict Aizen utters the words Bankai,then the next page is a black page that ends the series :rolleyes:

iankage
11-19-2009, 06:31 AM
I can answer that question,its the episode where Ichigo fights that fake captain who has the knock-off zanpaktou.Should be around the 180 episodes.

bot: this manga should end already,i predict Aizen utters the words Bankai,then the next page is a black page that ends the series :rolleyes:
AAH HAA ive and Aizen's bankai prolly took out fail writer Kubo and put an end to all this failed manga. the guy created a villain with no achilles hill and has to pay for it in the worst way possible.

by the byakuya didn't see the mask it was just hollow ichi without the mask, u know the white dude. and the where does Kempachi see the mask? must have missed it.

T9F
11-19-2009, 09:04 PM
would be an epic ending. but lets face it, this is shonen, it wont end that way.

The Special One
11-20-2009, 02:32 AM
bot: this manga should end already,i predict Aizen utters the words Bankai,then the next page is a black page that ends the series

I've been sayin the same thing for the past year, or two.lol

Aizen releases Bankai then the epilogue follows.

Old Man Yama: We never stood a chance... My biggest failure and darkest regret, was getting Gotei's hopes up. The age of oblivion is now upon us...

[FIN]

Kinako
11-20-2009, 02:36 AM
He does it in one of the movies. I can't recall which one but it is one of the movies. Therefore it isn't canon

The Special One
11-20-2009, 02:41 AM
I've never watched a Bleach movie. And I was kind of joking... Though it would be a huge plot twist if Aizen turns the story inside out and it ends like that...

Kinako
11-20-2009, 11:59 AM
I've never watched a Bleach movie. And I was kind of joking... Though it would be a huge plot twist if Aizen turns the story inside out and it ends like that...
No I wasnt meaning nothing bad by it. and I wasnt even talking about your post. I was talking about how they were saying that Ichigo uses his mask in front of the Old Fart during filler arcs and I had mentioned he did it in a movie as well. But what you said about Aizen's Bankai wouldn't suprise me though.

The Special One
11-20-2009, 12:10 PM
oh.lol

I wasn't sure who you were responding to. And considering that fillers in general don't have to follow a specific trend, they could very well end in the strangest of ways. That's why I thought you were responding to my post.

Kinako
11-20-2009, 12:51 PM
oh.lol

I wasn't sure who you were responding to. And considering that fillers in general don't have to follow a specific trend, they could very well end in the strangest of ways. That's why I thought you were responding to my post.
Oh its all good. You know what else I was thinking though. I'm noticing a trend here. Since Ichigo and Co. have been in Hueco Mundo, They have all been getting power ups (Ishida with his new Quincy Bow, Chad with his 2nd arm of armor, and Ichigo with his 2nd Hollow form). What about Orihime??, I think she may be due for her little power up about now. She has the power to "reject anything", which means she can probably "reject" Aizen's shikai if she wanted to. She can already heal reiatsu (slower) and physical wounds. She can create barriers as well. But I was thinking she could get some kind of upgrade to her rejection ability sometime soon. I also think that after Yammy gets chopped to pieces, she will go through the Garganta back to Earth and end up "rejecting" Aizen and making everything back to normal. Sounds far fetched, but this is Kubo we are talking about.

PS But if Orihime dosent get her power up, she will be the Sakura of Bleach. Utterly Useless and therefore, fodder.

Myth
11-24-2009, 11:50 AM
so it seems most of us were right it looks like tousen will unleash his mask next week meaning gin too has a mask and has become a vizard.... if aizen has a mask then there's no way in hell anyones beating him but i doubt he does..

also he declares that he will fight now FINALLY, oh and we won't see his bankai this arc meaning he'll pawn evryone without it kubo said in an interview that he will not reveal aizens bankai in this arc..

Kinako
11-24-2009, 12:04 PM
Masks...... Yeah I figured he was going to do that. Which basically means Aizen and Gin have one, which means Kubo overpowered the hell out of Aizen. Let's see how they get out of this, shall we??

The Special One
11-24-2009, 12:35 PM
dude, why the fuck is Yammy still alive? AHHHHGHFGIGIGJ XXXXXXX

CENSOR XXXXXX CENSOR!

Lord, help us, it is finally confirmed that the defects have obtained hollow powers. The physical manifestive realm of bleach will shatter next week.

Aizen with a power up.lol He doesn't even need Bankai...

Myth
11-24-2009, 12:35 PM
I knew tousen got way stronger his bankkai plus a mask he's gonna be tough to beat for ANYONE. especially the loses who are fighting him...

I wanna see Gin Vs Sunshui now thats gonna be some fuckign crazy shit..

edit: nothing bout aizen having a mask just tousen although we don't see it at the end of the chapter he puts his hand over his face like he's about to put the mask on.. maybe its not a mask but thats what the spoiler suggests.

Kinako
11-24-2009, 12:38 PM
I knew tousen got way stronger his bankkai plus a mask he's gonna be tough to beat for ANYONE. especially the loses who are fighting him...

I wanna see Gin Vs Sunshui now thats gonna be some fuckign crazy shit..

edit: nothing bout aizen having a mask just tousen although we don't see it at the end of the chapter he puts his hand over his face like he's about to put the mask on.. maybe its not a mask but thats what the spoiler suggests.
But... in the event he does have one... You know Aizen has one.... which will be some crazy ass shit when he lets his loose.

Myth
11-24-2009, 12:44 PM
not entirely remember aizen is waiting for the koyoku to awaken so even though he gave em masks there may be a draw back to it ... he himself wouldn't use something unless he knew it HAD noo draw backs so im pretty sure if it is a mask he gave tousen he may not have given it to himself or even gin.. since he seems to be closer with gin then tousen.

The Special One
11-24-2009, 02:15 PM
At this point I just wish Yammy was dead... If Kubo don't off panel this fool soon...

Kinako
11-24-2009, 03:04 PM
not entirely remember aizen is waiting for the koyoku to awaken so even though he gave em masks there may be a draw back to it ... he himself wouldn't use something unless he knew it HAD noo draw backs so im pretty sure if it is a mask he gave tousen he may not have given it to himself or even gin.. since he seems to be closer with gin then tousen.

You do have a point there Myth.

Spiegel
11-24-2009, 03:59 PM
Where was it mentioned that Tousen and Gin have hollow powers?

Myth
11-24-2009, 04:16 PM
Where was it mentioned that Tousen and Gin have hollow powers?

the new spoiler nothing about gin but at the end aizen says he's gonna fight himself, and tousen says some shit like "this is the new power aizen gave me" and puts his hand over his face like he's about to pull out a mask.

its def not confirmed that its gonna be a mask but the spoiler translator thinks it is, cause really wtf else could he be putting his hand over his face for.

Spiegel
11-24-2009, 04:29 PM
^cool stuff I guess, then again not entirely surprising.

TheThinker
11-24-2009, 05:21 PM
he could be putting his hand over his face cuz he got a pimple and he wants to hide it lol.. but this could be interesting.. gin with a potential hollow mask? epic..... even though tousen isnt too shabby himself

Kinako
11-24-2009, 05:39 PM
But did anyone catch the fact that Kubo was channeling Michael Jackson for the move they do to put those masks on???? Or is it just me??

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-24-2009, 07:00 PM
Lol, pretty much knew team shinigami traitors would have Hollow powers. How else would tousen and Gin stand a chance??

I predict Tousen fights Isagi (sp?) his former vice captain who also gained bankai and kensei.

Gin fights Vice captain masahmoto (big juggs) and captain Fox boy.

Then as everybody esle attemps to fight aizen yamamoto blows past then and steps up for the job.

NeoKakarott023
11-24-2009, 07:00 PM
Somebody pls post a link, or a copy of the spoiler, this will be good.

Myth
11-24-2009, 07:06 PM
Lol, pretty much knew team shinigami traitors would have Hollow powers. How else would tousen and Gin stand a chance??

I predict Tousen fights Isagi (sp?) his former vice captain who also gained bankai and kensei.

Gin fights Vice captain masahmoto (big juggs) and captain Fox boy.

Then as everybody esle attemps to fight aizen yamamoto blows past then and steps up for the job.

matsumoto is nearly dead he'd own fox boy in a matter of seconds... he's fighting shinji or shunsui....

fyi Gin is bad ass and would rape most of the captains himself without any hollow mask, and nowhere was it even said that gin has a hollow mask we're not even sure about tousen yet but gin for sure not..

tousen won't fight kensei cause he'll be busy with WW he'll fight kommamaru and hisagi at the same time and own them both..

while Aizen and Yamamto fight which is something i've been waiting for from the start of the manga.. i can't wait till aizen kills the old man.

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-24-2009, 07:16 PM
matsumoto is nearly dead he'd own fox boy in a matter of seconds... he's fighting shinji or shunsui....

fyi Gin is bad ass and would rape most of the captains himself without any hollow mask, and nowhere was it even said that gin has a hollow mask we're not even sure about tousen yet but gin for sure not..

tousen won't fight kensei cause he'll be busy with WW he'll fight kommamaru and hisagi at the same time and own them both..

while Aizen and Yamamto fight which is something i've been waiting for from the start of the manga.. i can't wait till aizen kills the old man.

Gin has shown nothing to suggest hes anything special like even shunsui who pwned stark with his shikia. No, Gin at best is just another mid level captain like Byakuya, kenpachi, shikai only shunsui, shikai vizards and Ichigo Hollowfied.

Gins ability to add ENZYTE raitsu to his sword to make it grow longer and harder (gigty) just isnt anything special like tousen and aizens Kido shikai or bankai.

Myth
11-24-2009, 07:21 PM
Gin has shown nothing to suggest hes anything special like even shunsui who pwned stark with his shikia. No, Gin at best is just another mid level captain like Byakuya, kenpachi, shikai only shunsui, shikai vizards and Ichigo Hollowfied.

Gins ability to add ENZYTE raitsu to his sword to make it grow longer and harder (gigty) just isnt anything special like tousen and aizens Kido shikai or bankai.


Gin is 100 time more talented then byakuya and espeically tousen, the kid came out the academy in 1 year and was offered a seat not only that but he killed a 3rd seat with no effort..

if he was a kid in this time he would been made captain quicker then toshiro but back then the captains where seriously stacked..

he's very talented and is considered a child prodigy, aizen wouldn't just recruit a child-__-

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-24-2009, 07:29 PM
Gin is 100 time more talented then byakuya and espeically tousen, the kid came out the academy in 1 year and was offered a seat not only that but he killed a 3rd seat with no effort..

if he was a kid in this time he would been made captain quicker then toshiro but back then the captains where seriously stacked..

he's very talented and is considered a child prodigy, aizen wouldn't just recruit a child-__-

Lol, Toshiro is also called a prodigy for the same feat, but hes actaully a captain. And last I checked Gin is rather evil so why not use him as an allie??

Byakuya has speed, awesome Kido control and senbonzakuara or bankai kageyoshi would wipe Gin out with his current manga feats.

Like I said, all gin has done is errect his sword lol, nothing else.

Assumtions mean nothing when the top 3 espada werent really nothing at all and ulquioria in his second release state couldve soloed all three.

Assumtions dont matter until they show something to even suggest what ur claiming.

Myth
11-24-2009, 07:38 PM
Lol, Toshiro is also called a prodigy for the same feat, but hes actaully a captain. And last I checked Gin is rather evil so why not use him as an allie??
I know im saying back then gin would have been captain young too but the captains back then were stacked... after he left and the vizards left positions were open... so toshiro got lucky..
Byakuya has speed, awesome Kido control and senbonzakuara or bankai kageyoshi would wipe Gin out with his current manga feats.Byakuya was still at home trainign with grandpa while gin was killing of 3rd seated officers and he was the same age as byakuya.. manga speaks for itself... kid


Assumtions dont matter until they show something to even suggest what ur claiming.there not assumptions you idiot this stuff is all from the manga you'd know this if you actually read it.

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-24-2009, 07:47 PM
[QUOTE]I know im saying back then gin would have been captain young too but the captains back then were stacked... after he left and the vizards left positions were open... so toshiro got lucky..

Lol, are u crazy?? Gin got out of the academy a couple days before there was three new openings for captains lol. Toushiro because captain without any urgent need for captains like back then.

Byakuya was still at home trainign with grandpa while gin was killing of 3rd seated officers and he was the same age as byakuya.. manga speaks for itself... kid

Lol, 3rd seats are trash exept madarame. Lol, Gins kiiling fodder while byakuyas competeing with Oriichi a captain lol. Big difference.

there not assumptions you idiot this stuff is all from the manga you'd know this if you actually read it.

Lol, Gin has only fought toshiro and couldnt even stop him, big manga feat lol.

Myth
11-24-2009, 07:50 PM
Lol, are u crazy?? Gin got out of the academy a couple days before there was three new openings for captains lol. Toushiro because captain without any urgent need for captains like back then.Gin couldn't be made captain because he was following Aizen he chose to stay lower ranked.. Aizen asks him this and gin replies with "its shitty"



Lol, 3rd seats are trash exept madarame. Lol, Gins kiiling fodder while byakuyas competeing with Oriichi a captain lol. Big difference.you retard, the difference in power between an academy grad and a 3rd seat is like the difference between a 3rd seat and a captain.. like i said bykuya was so fail he was still at home and not out of the acadmey...



Lol, Gin has only fought toshiro and couldnt even stop him, big manga feat lol.yes because he was so serious.

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-24-2009, 08:25 PM
Gin couldn't be made captain because he was following Aizen he chose to stay lower ranked.. Aizen asks him this and gin replies with "its shitty"



you retard, the difference in power between an academy grad and a 3rd seat is like the difference between a 3rd seat and a captain.. like i said bykuya was so fail he was still at home and not out of the acadmey...


yes because he was so serious.

Lol, 1. Byakuya wasnt at the acadamy training he was at home competing with Yuraichi a high level captain lol. Gin was a aizen boot licker who could beat fodder 3 seats, who cares.

Lol, there is no proof to even suggest the stuff ur saying so either provide a link or quit replying because this is getting nowhere and Im not going to argue manga feats vs ur assumtions.

Myth
11-24-2009, 10:18 PM
Lol, 1. Byakuya wasnt at the acadamy training he was at home competing with Yuraichi a high level captain lol. Gin was a aizen boot licker who could beat fodder 3 seats, who cares.

Lol, there is no proof to even suggest the stuff ur saying so either provide a link or quit replying because this is getting nowhere and Im not going to argue manga feats vs ur assumtions.

I don't need to post links for shit that was in the manga if u didn't read it from the beginning I suggest you do..

Byakuya was fucking fail he was with grandpa nuff said.

Distortion
11-25-2009, 01:09 AM
Mask or not tousen will always be garbage compared to Ichigo. Aizen probably has a mask and until otherwise noted by the manga writer I'm going to keep saying he does. Gin's the only real threat left out of Aizen's entire army besides himself of course. I'm pretty sure Yammy is there for kicks.

@Myth, sorry but your wrong due to you assuming so much garbage as usual. Byakuya is the perfect example of an ideal captain. He's extremely well rounded, probably since he comes from royality and thus has the best trainers possible. He has speed, kido, and his Bankai is mastered. All Gin has shown is a sword that can stretch. Gin would not have made captain at a young age just cause he could kill some fodder people, he was at best vice captain. His spirtual energy was obviously nothing to brag about since it wasn't even mentioned once. Assuming stuff as usual and trying to force fake facts gets kinda old doesn't it? I've read the manga, I dont examine it and take every word anally like you do, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. ZZzzzzZZz

Myth
11-25-2009, 01:52 AM
@Myth, sorry but your wrong due to you assuming so much garbage as usual. Byakuya is the perfect example of an ideal captain. He's extremely well rounded, probably since he comes from royality and thus has the best trainers possible. He has speed, kido, and his Bankai is mastered. All Gin has shown is a sword that can stretch. Gin would not have made captain at a young age just cause he could kill some fodder people, he was at best vice captain. His spirtual energy was obviously nothing to brag about since it wasn't even mentioned once. Assuming stuff as usual and trying to force fake facts gets kinda old doesn't it? I've read the manga, I dont examine it and take every word anally like you do, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. ZZzzzzZZz

Nope you're 100 percent wrong.. because Gin was considered a child prodigy and we haven't seen what he can do because he was on the low orders from Aizen obviously..

we've seen a hint of his spiritual pressure ganju bascially fainted when gin showed a tip of his spiritual pressure meanwhile he was able to fully stand when byakuya appeared.

so yes as i said you pretty much fail, he could have been made captain if he was allowed to show his shit off which he wasn't the reason all of his abilities remain a mystery is all due to him being on the low following Aizen..

Byakuya has shown his skill because he's not a bad guy thus he didn't have to hide anything, the main fact that he wasn't in the academy yet while gin already graduated it speaks for itself since they are both the same age or around it.

Hikaru
11-25-2009, 10:25 AM
Nope you're 100 percent wrong.. because Gin was considered a child prodigy and we haven't seen what he can do because he was on the low orders from Aizen obviously..

we've seen a hint of his spiritual pressure ganju bascially fainted when gin showed a tip of his spiritual pressure meanwhile he was able to fully stand when byakuya appeared.

so yes as i said you pretty much fail, he could have been made captain if he was allowed to show his shit off which he wasn't the reason all of his abilities remain a mystery is all due to him being on the low following Aizen..

Byakuya has shown his skill because he's not a bad guy thus he didn't have to hide anything, the main fact that he wasn't in the academy yet while gin already graduated it speaks for itself since they are both the same age or around it.

First of all Remember that Byakuya is ROYALTY and the successor to the "throne"(for the lack of better term) of the Kuchiki family so it would not be unheard of for someone of his status to get personally trained at their manor vs the academy together with the commoners.

Whether we was holding back or not Gin is nothing more than Toushiro level captain until proven otherwise by the manga period.

Ganju is nothing but a Rukongai fodder, the end.

Myth
11-25-2009, 12:47 PM
First of all Remember that Byakuya is ROYALTY and the successor to the "throne"(for the lack of better term) of the Kuchiki family so it would not be unheard of for someone of his status to get personally trained at their manor vs the academy together with the commoners.

Whether we was holding back or not Gin is nothing more than Toushiro level captain until proven otherwise by the manga period.

Ganju is nothing but a Rukongai fodder, the end.

he was toyign with toshiro and toshiro was going ape shit that proves how's superior ...

yes ganju is a fodder i agree this fodder was able to handle byakuya's spiritual pressure while a tip of gins made him faint... nuff said..

anyways here the spoiler guys.


Credits: sheetz
Source: FLOL
Verification Confirmed

二者の剣戟…!!巨躯堕ッ!?
Two men's weapons...! A gigantic crash!?
ヤミー倒れる
Yammi is on the ground.
白哉『…さて』
Byakuya: "...Now..."
剣八『…続きといくか』
Kenpachi: "...Are you going to continue?"
ヤミー尻もち
Yammi sits up.
剣『あア!?』
Kenpachi: "Ah!?"
白『…しつこい奴だ 本当に』
Byakuya: "...Stubborn fellow. Truly."
ヤミー顔面ぐちゃぐちゃ『へ… 痛えなア… ムカつくなア… オメエら… へへ…』
Yammi, his face :"Heh...That hurts...I'm pissed...I'll get you..."
剣『何だア? 気がおかしくなりやがったか?』
Kenpachi: "What? You feel funny?"
ヤミー『ゆる 許さねえ 許さねえ ゆる ゆる ゆる ゆる ゆる ゆる  ゆる』
Yammi: "I won't forgive you. I won't forgive you..won't forgive you..."
ヤミー巨大化『許さねえええええええええぞおおおおおおおおおおおお!! 』
Gigantic Yammi: "I won't forgive youuuuuuuuuuuu!!:
剣、白、その場を離れる
Kenpachi and Byakuya distance themselves from that location.
ヤミー、白剣を見下ろす。
Yammi looks down at them.
ヤミー『イイぜえ お前ら… 最高にイラつくぜ… 俺のレスレクシオンは 「偉獣」
(イーラ)… 怒りこそが俺の力だ…! さア もっともっともっとイラつ かせろよ
そんだけ てめえらの死に様が… 無様になるってだけの話だ!!』
Yammi: "Great...I'm at the peak of my anger with you two...My resurrection is called
Ira...Anger itself is my strength.! You've caused me the utmost anger.
And for that your manner of deaths...will not be pretty!!"
マユリ『…ヤレヤレ… 頼むヨ君達 とっとと相討ちにでも持ち込んでくれ 給え
これ以上巨大になられたら…   後の解剖に差し支える』
Mayuri: "...Oh dear...I must request of you...hurry even if you must quickly take him down together...
If he gets even larger...it'll hinder the autopsy"

BLEACH 383 TOO EARLY TO TRUST

張り詰める…!!
Tense conditions...!!
平子、ヒヨリ抱え藍染を睨む
Hirako holds Hiyori and glares at Aizen.
藍『…いい眼だ 百年振りに 生き返った眼を見た気がっするよ 平子真子 』
Aizen: ”...That's a fine look. The look of one who's come back to life after one hundred years, Hirako Shinji."
ヒヨリ息絶え絶え
Hiyori breaths shallowly.
藍『憎いか私が 憎ければ向かってくるが良い 君は特別に私の剣でお相手 しよう』
Aizen: "If you detest me, then go ahead come after me. I'll make a special opponent of you with my sword."
平『…ハッチ』
Hirako: "...Hacchi"
ハッチ『ハイ』
Hacchi: "Yes."
平『片手のとこスマンけど ひよ里ンこと頼むわ どうにかしてもたしてく れ
…一護が戻るまで』
Hirako: "I'm sorry you lost your hand, but I'm leaving Hiyori with you. Do what you can
to take care of her...until Ichigo returns."
ハッチ顔、汗だらけ『…ハイ』
Hacchi, with a sweaty face: "...Yes."
平子、藍染の前に立つ
Hirako stands in front of Aizen.
藍『…”一護が戻るまで”…か  随分と信頼しているんだね あの少年を 』
Aizen: "...Until Ichigo returns? You're placing a lot of faith in that boy."
平『理解でけへんやろ 仲間すら信じひん オマエにはのオ』
Hirako: "I can't understand it. As long as he's our comrade we have faith.
Do you feel that way?"

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藍『信じるということは 頼るということと同義だよ それは弱者の行いだ
我々には無用のものだよ』
Aizen: "Faith and reliance on others. That's the way of the weak man.
We have no use for that."
平『あんだけ手下引き連れた奴が よう言うわ  部下には自分のこと信じ るように
口八丁誑かしとってんやろが』
Hirako: "If your underlings spoke that way,
藍『いいや 私は部下達に自分を信じろなどと ただの一度も言った事はな い
Aizen: "No. I've never even once told my underlings to place their trust in me.
共に来いとは言ったが 信じて共に来いなどとは言わなかった
I told them we would come together, but not to also place their trust in me.
常に私を含めた何者も信じるなと言って聞かせた だが悲しい事に それを 徹底できる程
I always told them to not trust in any man, including me. But sadly there
強き者は そう多くない  全ての生物は自分より優れた何者かを信じ 盲 従しなければ
生きてはいけないのだ
aren't many strong enough to do that to such extent. All living creatures place their
trust in men who are greater than themselves. They have to blindly obey to live.
そうして信じられた者は そに重圧から逃れる為に更に上に立つ者を求め
And so the ones who are given that trust, in order to escape those pressures, seek someone
even higher than themselves.
上に立つ者は更に上に信じるべき強者を求める  そうして全ての
神は生まれる
Those higher persons seek someone still higher to trust in. And that's how gods are born.
まだ私を信じるなよ 平子真子   これからゆっくりと信じるかみが誰かなのか教えよ う
信じるのはそれからだ』
They still believe in me, Hirako Shinji. From here on I'll slowly show you the god they
believe in. The one they believe in will be from here on."
平子青ざめる
Hirako turns pale.

東仙『――驚いたな 藍染様が自ら前線に立たれるとは 藍染様が立たれた という事は
いよいよ私も君達に真の力を持って向わなければなるまい…』
Tousen: "...That's surprising. Aizen standing at the front lines himself...means that
I have to finally ought to use my true power on you..."
駒村『卍解か 望むところだ  こちらも―』
Komamura: "Bankai? That's what I hoped. I also..."
話を遮り 東『卍解だと?  笑わせるな 藍染様は私に 卍解などより遥かに素晴らし い
力を与えて下さったのだ』
Tousen interrupts. "Bankai? Don't make me laugh. Aizen-sama has granted me power
far for splended than bankai."
駒『…東仙    まさか貴様――…』
Komamura: "...Tousen...You can't mean..."
東仙 左手を顔にもっていく。。。
Tousen moves his left hand to his face...
顔翳す手の意味するものとは…!?
What's the meaning of the hand over his face?

終わり。サーセイ★
The end.

Looks like Aizen will kill Hirako hopefully if the fight doesn't get interrupted... and its good that Aizen lets everyone know that he doesn't ask to be trusted...

TheThinker
11-25-2009, 07:29 PM
an for the record gin cant be a child prodigy the only one i remember is hits

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-25-2009, 07:41 PM
an for the record gin cant be a child prodigy the only one i remember is hits

No, Gin was a child prodogy to who graduated from the academy after only one year, but still couldnt make captain even though there were suddenly three new spots open (the hollowfied captains kisuke saved) until he was an adult. Hits as only as child has risen to captain in record time and hes still as strong as he is. Gins 100 years older then hits is so its natural he be stronger right now. If Hits was 100 years older (gain more exspirience, increase his raitsu far more, master new techniques and new kidos) then hits would wipe his ass with Gin.

Myth
11-25-2009, 07:53 PM
No, Gin was a child prodogy to who graduated from the academy after only one year, but still couldnt make captain even though there were suddenly three new spots open (the hollowfied captains kisuke saved) until he was an adult. Hits as only as child has risen to captain in record time and hes still as strong as he is. Gins 100 years older then hits is so its natural he be stronger right now. If Hits was 100 years older (gain more exspirience, increase his raitsu far more, master new techniques and new kidos) then hits would wipe his ass with Gin.

Let's see if i can break it down to you.. he killed a 3rd seat in rank it goes likes this

Captain
Vice Captain
3rd Seat - Gin killed this. meaning his level at that age was already at Vice captains. and he was younger then Byakuya back then...

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-25-2009, 08:10 PM
Let's see if i can break it down to you.. he killed a 3rd seat in rank it goes likes this

Captain
Vice Captain
3rd Seat - Gin killed this. meaning his level at that age was already at Vice captains. and he was younger then Byakuya back then...

Ur not going to prove ur oppinion myth so just give it up already.

Defeating some random 3 seater other then ikaku is fodder!!! Lol, yomoichika is stronger then any 3rd seater in the entire series and hes a fifth seat.

Byakuya was competing with Yoriichi who is a high level captain, not low or mid, but high!!! There is no comparison if ur going to gauge strength by who beat who back then because if byakuya could compete with a high level captain back then, then he was at least already at low captain level, but captain level none the less. At best Gin was vice captain level, but thats only half a captians level.

But since these still dont prove how strong Gin really is ur going to have to wait for Gin to fight someone strong (without aizen Given hollow powers) to see how strong he truely is.

Myth
11-25-2009, 08:39 PM
Ur not going to prove ur oppinion myth so just give it up already.

Defeating some random 3 seater other then ikaku is fodder!!! Lol, yomoichika is stronger then any 3rd seater in the entire series and hes a fifth seat.

Byakuya was competing with Yoriichi who is a high level captain, not low or mid, but high!!! There is no comparison if ur going to gauge strength by who beat who back then because if byakuya could compete with a high level captain back then, then he was at least already at low captain level, but captain level none the less. At best Gin was vice captain level, but thats only half a captians level.

But since these still dont prove how strong Gin really is ur going to have to wait for Gin to fight someone strong (without aizen Given hollow powers) to see how strong he truely is.

im just proving a point.. where was byakuya competing with a captain level u fuckign idiot.. please show us all links and panels to where he's "competing".

take into account trying to catch someone who's leagues ahead of you isn't competing its acting like you're the shit when in reality all u r is SHIT.

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-25-2009, 09:20 PM
im just proving a point.. where was byakuya competing with a captain level u fuckign idiot.. please show us all links and panels to where he's "competing".

take into account trying to catch someone who's leagues ahead of you isn't competing its acting like you're the shit when in reality all u r is SHIT.

Lol, ur complaining about byakuya competing with yoriichi when all Gin did was kill a fodder third seat from who knows what squad lol.


Ur just getting whinny because u cant prove jack because there is no proof, only the defeat of a fodder 3rd seat.

I dont know why ur continuing this when theres no rpoof to back up ur ASSUMTION. Just ur oppinion that since Gin killed a 3rd seat fresh out of the academy, hes super pwnage which is crap from what hes shown. What proof do u have hes even gotten any stronger since then? NONE, just an assumtion!

Lol, Im surprised u didnt bring up the time Gin stuck a injured warn out Byakuya with his sword as proof.

ask me anything
11-25-2009, 09:21 PM
@ KYF are you talking about when Yoruichi showed up at byakuya manor? If so then I hate to tell you this but, the only thing they were competing in was shunpo. Yoruichi stole his freaking hair ribbon and laughed at him the whole time. byakuya was just stupid kid then and gin was at least vice captain material.

When did it ever say when gin to become a captain? I don't remember that ever being mentioned. For all we know it could have happened just after the turn back the pendulum arc. And how long did it take Hits to become captain. Only if you know that can you 2 really compare the 2 properly.

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-25-2009, 09:26 PM
@ KYF are you talking about when Yoruichi showed up at byakuya manor? If so then I hate to tell you this but, the only thing they were competing in was shunpo. Yoruichi stole his freaking hair ribbon and laughed at him the whole time. byakuya was just stupid kid then and gin was at least vice captain material.

When did it ever say when gin to become a captain? I don't remember that ever being mentioned. For all we know it could have happened just after the turn back the pendulum arc. And how long did it take Hits to become captain. Only if you know that can you really compare the 2 properly.

Competing is competing lol. Yoroichi is a high level captain while a 3rd seat is beyond fodder in comparison.

All that is for sure is Gin wasnt captain till he was grown up 100 years later, assumtions mean nothing.
And hits became a cpatin just a couple years after graduating because the guy hasnt grown but just a little which is a fact.

U want to compare something, compare manga feats against strong opponents Because as Ive been saying thats all u can do. And because of those Byakuya>Gin!

Myth
11-25-2009, 09:32 PM
thats not competing you idiot thats her fuckign around with the kid on purpose. its like if you had a little brother and u took his toy and started to run and he ran after u and failed..

is that competing too... just stop embarrassing yourself.

NeoKakarott023
11-25-2009, 09:44 PM
In 'Turn Back the Pendulum', Byakuya was a young boy training with his Grandpa, Myth was correct about that, it surprized me that he was so young. Yorouichi is even older than him, she was a captain at the time.

T9F
11-25-2009, 09:50 PM
this doesnt really have anything to do with the conversation thats going on right now... but...

if tousen is infact a vizard too, i hope his hollow devours him. itd be funny and id be happy :)

ask me anything
11-25-2009, 09:53 PM
Competing is competing lol. Yoroichi is a high level captain while a 3rd seat is beyond fodder in comparison.
Yeah but they were just playing tag like they did every time yoruichi came there. That's not a very serious comparison of strength.

All that is for sure is Gin wasnt captain till he was grown up 100 years later, assumtions mean nothing.
And hits became a cpatin just a couple years after graduating because the guy hasnt grown but just a little which is a fact.

Fair enough, but with gin graduating in 1 year it's a safe assumption that he's got at least as much potential as Hits who took 2 years. And if Hits made captain at an early age it's not unreasonable to assume that gin could have too. Also it would have been suspicious if gin was made captain after just becoming 3rd seat. Everyone would have realized that gin was hiding his true power and would have asked why? Their would have been an investigation into it and people would have looked into his acquaintances (AIZEN). I doubt Aizen wanted that kind of attention so he had gin become captain in a reasonable amount of time as to not raise suspicion. I just saying this from a logical standpoint even if it is just speculation.

U want to compare something, compare manga feats against strong opponents Because as Ive been saying thats all u can do. And because of those Byakuya>Gin!

What about gin easily killing Hiyori with just one strike. That a manga feat. I'm not arguing who stronger then who, but Gin isn't weak. If he were Aizen wouldn't have recruited him. IMO he's slightly stronger then the average captain, but not quite Shunsui's level.

Myth
11-25-2009, 10:03 PM
thats exactly what i was talking about Gin couldn't show his true power because he was always with Aizen he was following him...

Hitsugayu graduated in 1 year more proof that gin could have been captain if he hadn't chosen to side with aizen and shown his true power..



@ask believe me i think he's at the same EXACT level as shunsui....

T9F
11-25-2009, 10:05 PM
eh, gin was not a captain when he was a child.
proof: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/130.5/030/

see, he is obviously not a child here :)

but he still kicks ass and was obviously holding back from the gotei 13. :p

Myth
11-25-2009, 10:08 PM
eh, gin was not a captain when he was a child.
proof: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/130.5/030/

see, he is obviously not a child here :)

but he still kicks ass and was obviously holding back from the gotei 13. :p

thank you for telling us something we all knew... how kind of you sir.

T9F
11-25-2009, 10:14 PM
@ask believe me i think he's at the same EXACT level as shunsui....

i think he might be stronger than shunsui, but not quite as strong as unohana. somewhere inbetween haha.

edit: im not a 'sir' btw.

ask me anything
11-25-2009, 10:20 PM
Another thing is that Aizen made it so Gin was in his squad. Had Gin showed his true power he would have easily been given a vice-captain position, which would have taken him away from Aizen. So just like how Aizen dumbed himself down to appear weaker then he, is Gin would have had to dumb himself down to appear 3rd seat level.

Also while in the 5th squad it's likely that he received "special training" from Aizen. This would have been much easier after the arrancar incident when the only guy who suspects him is removed. So can anyone really think that Gin with all his potential and the training he went through be only average? I certainly don't.

@ myth. Yeah he could be as strong as shunsui. But that's my favorite character so I got to be a little biased in his favor. Lawlz.

Edit: If kubo makes Gin weak it'll be a real shame. The guys been training just as long as the vizards so if he's only their level then Kubo=fail.

Myth
11-25-2009, 10:23 PM
the guy split someone with a mask in 1 slice and nobody even noticed it tells u the level of speed he has..

I can't wait to see him fight...

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-25-2009, 10:48 PM
thats not competing you idiot thats her fuckign around with the kid on purpose. its like if you had a little brother and u took his toy and started to run and he ran after u and failed..

is that competing too... just stop embarrassing yourself.

Lol, what makes u think a 3rd seat would take a fresh out of the academy little punk like Gin seriously until its too late?? Lol, it works both ways!!

Another thing u have no proof of!!

Embarrassing ur self is claiming assumtions to be facts lol.

[QUOTE]Yeah but they were just playing tag like they did every time yoruichi came there. That's not a very serious comparison of strength.

If byakuya had the raitsu and speed to compete with yoroichi the high level captain of the assasination squad then thats far more in comparrison to little Gin showing up and cutting down a 3rd seat fooder shinigami. All Gin did was cut, showeed no speed, no kido, just a slash of his sword.

Thats nothing!!!

Fair enough, but with gin graduating in 1 year it's a safe assumption that he's got at least as much potential as Hits who took 2 years. And if Hits made captain at an early age it's not unreasonable to assume that gin could have too. Also it would have been suspicious if gin was made captain after just becoming 3rd seat. Everyone would have realized that gin was hiding his true power and would have asked why? Their would have been an investigation into it and people would have looked into his acquaintances (AIZEN). I doubt Aizen wanted that kind of attention so he had gin become captain in a reasonable amount of time as to not raise suspicion. I just saying this from a logical standpoint even if it is just speculation.

Im not going to assume anyone unknown true strength in this manga ever since the top 3 espada turned out to be trash!!! Full power Ullquioria couldve soloed all three with the kind of speed and power he was putting out.

Thast why assumtions are just useless even more in this manga because Kubo is way too inconsistant.

What about gin easily killing Hiyori with just one strike. That a manga feat. I'm not arguing who stronger then who, but Gin isn't weak. If he were Aizen wouldn't have recruited him. IMO he's slightly stronger then the average captain, but not quite Shunsui's level.

Gin sneak attacking Hyori who let her anger get the best of her so she attacked aizen and Gin ambushed her inhalf. No matter how pleasing it is to see that loud mouth bitch get hers, its nothing special to ambush a vice captain vizard in shikai and do that. IMO, Gins fight with toshiro is a better manga feat because hes a captain and he was actaully looking.

Myth
11-25-2009, 11:44 PM
if byakuya had the raitsu and speed to compete with yoroichi

I stop replying and erased everything when I read that.....

The Special One
11-26-2009, 02:54 AM
It seems another winded speech by Aizen. Then again, I'd rather read that then to continue to see Yammy's fat hide each and every week. He just keeps on getting bigger. Why won't Kubo finally have dat mad scientist releast Bankai and poison his ass with the quickness?

With the exception of Tousen's new power, each chapter puts the manga back several fold... How does that happen?

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-26-2009, 03:03 AM
I stop replying and erased everything when I read that.....

Lol yea because IF means does or has right. Not might, maybe, could be, possibly ect. U need to get hooked on phonics buddy because ur reading comp is horrible. Either that or u just really try to hard not to read my posts and just assume what Im trying to say.

Anyways, BOT: Hyori is still alive:( Why wont that little loud mouth Besh die??????

SasukeWorldsGreatest
11-26-2009, 05:47 AM
Let's see if i can break it down to you.. he killed a 3rd seat in rank it goes likes this

Captain
Vice Captain
3rd Seat - Gin killed this. meaning his level at that age was already at Vice captains. and he was younger then Byakuya back then...

I have to agree with myth,everyone except hitsugaya is older than gin,it is already stated in the beginning of the SS arc in the Manga that Gin is the second youngest captain among them all.

Vengeance
11-26-2009, 12:32 PM
Gin is the man I don't know what KY's problem is.

Anyone else considered the idea that Aizen restored Tousen's light which is why Tousen follows him? Work with me for a moment.

Aizen: I'll restore the light in your eyes in exchange for your undying loyalty in my plans for domination over all dimensions.

Tousen: & If I were to refuse?

Aizen: Well I'll simply have to kill you then.

Tousen: As if you could Aizen...

Aizen: You are probably the only one in SS that even has a chance considering your condition.

Tousen: If I were to say yes what's stopping me from just turning on you once I regained my sight?

Aizen: I've watched you for a while Tousen & know you yearn to see the light. I also know that you're a man of honor & as such your ideals wouldn't allow you to brake your word. I also know that you are not satisfied with how SS executes it's form of justice.

Tousen: That is correct Aizen ok grant me sight & I will become your weapon to do with as you please.

What if Tousen's visor is to maintain the fisade that he's still blind & blocks his vision as to not give himself away. Once he takes it off it's revealed that he can infact see. A Vizard mask is to predictable here so I'm going to predict this instead.

Edit: WTF is this?
If byakuya had the raitsu and speed to compete with yoroichi the high level captain of the assasination squad then thats far more in comparrison to little Gin showing up and cutting down a 3rd seat fooder shinigami. All Gin did was cut, showeed no speed, no kido, just a slash of his sword.
You can't be fucking serious dude 105-11 (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.04/11/). She totally outclasses him. Look her breast is right by his face & he didn't even notice her coming. Look again she totally outclasses him 105-12 (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.04/12/). O one more thing the manga states the little Gin pwnz little Byakuya 105-16 (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.04/16/). Read the actual manga before posting in here again.

Also Gin was clearly toying with Hits just like he was toying with Ichigo. Gin is extremely powerful I don't understand how you can't comprehend this.

jackacak
11-28-2009, 06:28 PM
gin is a genius and his power is still misterious. until now we have just seen he cuts through things and his sword that can be elongated. But i think is speed also marvelous since we can see throughout the chapter that speed is important element to win a battle. means who can slash their sword first is a winner

http://naruto-niichan7.blogspot.com

ask me anything
11-28-2009, 10:41 PM
What if Tousen's visor is to maintain the fisade that he's still blind & blocks his vision as to not give himself away. Once he takes it off it's revealed that he can infact see. A Vizard mask is to predictable here so I'm going to predict this instead.

What would be the point of him seeing? He's already got Daredevil like 6th sense. He can sense spirit energy way better then anyone else can't he? So vision would be pointless unless he's got sharingan. lol

It's likely he's got a mask. Aizen and company are outnumber like 10 to 3 or something like that. So I could see Tousen using a mask and fighting against 2-4 captains/vizards and owning all of them. Maybe he's got a more powerful mask or something. If I'm not mistaken Aizen referred to the vizards as failed experiments, plus he's had a lot of experience creating arrancar. I would imagine that in the last 100 years he's got a lot better at fusing hollow and shinigami powers together. I think that could be why he's got a fascination with ichigo and his hollow powers. So maybe Tousen is a perfected vizard.

Their could a 3rd option of some kind. What it is IDK. I doubt Kubo would be that creative anyway.

Myth
11-28-2009, 10:47 PM
obviously its a mask lol

T9F
11-28-2009, 11:40 PM
for the people that are saying that tosen can see again and all that, how exactly would that be "stronger than bankai"? :S

Myth
11-28-2009, 11:43 PM
for the people that are saying that tosen can see again and all that, how exactly would that be "stronger than bankai"? :S

maybe he's like cyclops and can shoot cero's from his eyes... but in all honesty its gotta be a mask. maybe just a way more perfect form then the vizards since he does call them failed specimens.


I think ichigo is a real hybrid because of how he attained his powers.. he can actually fully transform to some vasto lorde type hollow yet still use his shinigami powers and shit.

T9F
11-29-2009, 12:02 AM
shoot cero's from his eyes... .

TOUSEN IS PART OF THE XMEN?! NO WAY! tousen= http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/jan2010/125_x_men_origins__cyclops_1.jpg

I think ichigo is a real hybrid because of how he attained his powers.. he can actually fully transform to some vasto lorde type hollow yet still use his shinigami powers and shit.
agreed.

ask me anything
11-29-2009, 08:07 PM
I think ichigo is a real hybrid because of how he attained his powers.. he can actually fully transform to some vasto lorde type hollow yet still use his shinigami powers and shit.


Ever since the vizards showed up I've began to wonder if Ichigo may have been one of Aizens experiments. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I mean Aizen has experimented on hollows and shinigami, so why not humans. Maybe he did something to ichigo before he was born or tampered with his soul in SS before it was reincarnated as ichigo. I've heard that the next arc will be about Isshin. I think maybe we will find out more about Ichigo's history and all the stuff that happened after the vizard incident. Especially how it relates to Isshin, Ichigo, and maybe even Urahara will have a role in it.:)

Back on topic: Tousen will unleash Mask 2.0 and the vizards will shit their pants, lol. I think his mask will be way cooler then any of the vizards.
Hopefully this will be the last chapter of yammy, but that's doubtful.
And lastly ichigo finally arrive at the end of the chapter.

Konnaha_yellow_flash
11-29-2009, 08:57 PM
[QUOTE]Gin is the man I don't know what KY's problem is.

Gins the man yet hes Not beaten anyone, fought anyone strong, but just be hyped just to show no reason to believe hes no better then the final 3 espada and just BS Hype!!

You can't be fucking serious dude 105-11 (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.04/11/). She totally outclasses him. Look her breast is right by his face & he didn't even notice her coming. Look again she totally outclasses him 105-12 (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.04/12/). O one more thing the manga states the little Gin pwnz little Byakuya 105-16 (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.04/16/). Read the actual manga before posting in here again.

Did u even read the pages before and after thos pages???

315/11, Byakuya is covered in sweat and looking like he wron out from training then yoruichi sneaks up from behind and put her boobs on his head lol. Yoru outclassed warn out Byakuya by sneak attacking him? WHAT??

315/12 Yoru shunpos behind warn out Byakuya and takes his hair sash then byakuya strkies at her just to hit a after Image. However, AIZEN gets chumped by Yorus speed too so how is that proving anything exept how strong yoru is and Byakuya was and is stronger than Ginhttp://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/08/

Also Gin was clearly toying with Hits just like he was toying with Ichigo. Gin is extremely powerful I don't understand how you can't comprehend this.

Toying? Yes Gin does mess around with that smile, but thats how he always fights, not holding back any extra .the guys evil, he doesnt hold back lol. And hits was just a low level captain in shikai form and yet Gin couldnt do crap while also using momo to his advantage.

Lol, Gin is standing over a body called a 3rd seat yet he still didnt show shit expet he can kill a 3rd seat SOMEHOW just as any other low level could as SOMEHOW as well. Gin stilled showed nothing but the ability to talk over a somehow defeated shinigami.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.04/18/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.04/18/)


And yet this noob Gin gets caught by a vice captain LMFAO, Gin is overhyped trsh by his current manga feats. http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/17/

Look here as Gins shikai couldnt even fully pierce a just ass kicked by ichigo/hollow thus proving again Gin is craphttp://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/04/

Lol, Obviously Gin is a another overhyped character just like the top 3 espada by his manga feats alone, not BS HYPE which is useless since Hype counts for nothing which again the top 3 espada proved.


EDIT: WHo the fuck are thses guys? They werent even in the anime lol, how could kubo put something in the manga and not in the anime?http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/11/

ask me anything
11-29-2009, 09:28 PM
Seriously bro, your going a little over board with the Gin fails stuff. lol he's a genius who was hand picked by Aizen to be his right hand man. So he's not weak. He is at a very minimum average, but most likely a high class captain. I know you like quoting the data books so what do they say about his stats? From what I've heard their quite high and that's not hype that facts from the author.


And yet this noob Gin gets caught by a vice captain LMFAO, Gin is overhyped trsh by his current manga feats. http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/17/

Just want to point out that Gin knew the menos grande were coming to get them. So why would he be worried? Everything was going according to plan.


Look here as Gins shikai couldnt even fully pierce a just ass kicked by ichigo/hollow thus proving again Gin is craphttp://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/04/

Look at the page before that. The blade went all the way through.

T9F
11-29-2009, 09:39 PM
the guys evil, he doesnt hold back lol.

but, aizen is evil too... and he holds back... a lot. so gin is probs holding back too... A LOT.. lol
i dont mean to be rude but that was horrible logic lol.

Myth
11-29-2009, 09:46 PM
now kyf is suggesting if byakuya wasn't worn out then he'd be able to catch her BUT WAIT.. MANGA STATES IN YORICHI OWNS WORDS WHEN THEY FINALLY MEET 100 YEARS LATER..

"If i remember correct you never once were able to beat me at TAG"

Byakuya replies with "how about we try again", he thinks he's bad ass but wait HE FAILS YET AGAIN AFTER 100 YEARS HE'S STILL OUTCLASSED BY HER...

but apparently he would have caught her back then as a kid if he wasn't worn out.. do you think before you post, like i said read the manga before you write anything make sure you're 100% right..

a good example is you saying gin couldn't full pierce byakuya yet we all saw his blade go in and come out the other side rofll... another case of talking before making sure..

T9F
11-29-2009, 09:54 PM
Byakuya replies with "how about we try again", he thinks he's bad ass but wait HE FAILS YET AGAIN AFTER 100 YEARS HE'S STILL OUTCLASSED BY HER...

no, no. he's still outclassed by her WHILE she's carrying a passed out ichigo on her back. it's different. ;).

ask me anything
11-29-2009, 10:10 PM
She's the greatest shunpo expert period. Theirs not a shinigami/vizard/hollow/arrancar/quincy/anything that has been shown to compete with her in speed. Especially not some smart ass kid whose barely got peach fuzz on his ballz. Seriously she could have pulled a kakashi and read a book while fighting him and still wouldn't have needed to get serious.

T9F
11-29-2009, 10:21 PM
She's the greatest shunpo expert period. Theirs not a shinigami/vizard/hollow/arrancar/quincy/anything that has been shown to compete with her in speed. Especially not some smart ass kid whose barely got peach fuzz on his ballz. Seriously she could have pulled a kakashi and read a book while fighting him and still wouldn't have needed to get serious.

i think if anyone had a chance to compare to her with speed it would be starrk. but hes dead, so it doesnt matter. lol

Myth
11-29-2009, 11:02 PM
Aizen's faster than her.. it's only a matter of time till they met and have an exchange... Soi fon isn't to bad either.

yama ji is faster than her for sure though and if he's faster aizen is as well, ppl don't know this but shunsui is fast as fucking hell he was able to travel a great distance 1 just 1 step...

byakuya was never SAID TO BE THE BEST OR ANYWHERE NEAR IT BTW he's just good at it....

Yama ji is fucking amazing though from sokyoku shunsui had a head start and yama ji still beat him to the place where they fought....

int terms of speed its like this...
Yama/Aizen
Shunsui
Yoirichi


that's all i can comapre after reading through the databooks.

ask me anything
11-30-2009, 12:08 AM
I don't know who is the fastest but it seems unlikely yorichi would come in 4th place. She is the goddess of flash after all. I wonder if that means she's fastest period or if their is a male counterpart that is the God of flash. I know Yama is fast, but he barely acknowledged that shunsui had gotten a little better. Aizen has been holding back of course, but why would he need to be super fast to begin with. It's not like anyone can see him anyway. He can just cast illusions of himself far away and really be next to you. That gives him the appearance of speed. Not to mention that yorichi by her own admission had gotten out of shape and she still outclassed byakuya while carrying ichigo. Also she has other skills that add to her shunpo. She can create multiple afterimages, and can make some of them appear to bleed. I haven't seen anyone else besides Soi fon do that. Assassin skills are all about speed.

Anyone know where can I find the complete translated databooks. All I've seen are bits and pieces in different forums. Is their like a official website or anything with the whole thing.

Myth
11-30-2009, 12:51 AM
the databooks aren't anything special they dnt provide anything you don't akready know from the manga...

since it was only the first databook...

Konnaha_yellow_flash
12-01-2009, 12:16 PM
now kyf is suggesting if byakuya wasn't worn out then he'd be able to catch her BUT WAIT.. MANGA STATES IN YORICHI OWNS WORDS WHEN THEY FINALLY MEET 100 YEARS LATER..

"If i remember correct you never once were able to beat me at TAG"

Byakuya replies with "how about we try again", he thinks he's bad ass but wait HE FAILS YET AGAIN AFTER 100 YEARS HE'S STILL OUTCLASSED BY HER...

but apparently he would have caught her back then as a kid if he wasn't worn out.. do you think before you post, like i said read the manga before you write anything make sure you're 100% right..

a good example is you saying gin couldn't full pierce byakuya yet we all saw his blade go in and come out the other side rofll... another case of talking before making sure..

R u a tard?? Show me where I said He couldve caught her if he wasnt worn out??? I said he was worn out which he was and not even aizen could stop her from doing what she wanted so not being able to catch yoru isnt nothing big lol.

LOL, show me where them blade went out the other side because I posted the manga panel and it clearly stopped and couldtn even fully pierce a wounded warnout after a hard battle byakuya LMFAO!

U and ask meanything must be blind because clearly it was stoppedhttp://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/176/25/
then the retarction of the blad not through himhttp://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/03/

WHere the balde on the other side of byakuya???? Yall are blind. myth ur just delusional as ever.

LMAO, who cares if Byakuya couldnt catch the shunpo GOD herself!!! Ur just mad because Gins only manga feat is standing over a beaten 3 seat:rolleyes:

Aizen's faster than her.. it's only a matter of time till they met and have an exchange... Soi fon isn't to bad either.

yama ji is faster than her for sure though and if he's faster aizen is as well, ppl don't know this but shunsui is fast as fucking hell he was able to travel a great distance 1 just 1 step...

byakuya was never SAID TO BE THE BEST OR ANYWHERE NEAR IT BTW he's just good at it....

Yama ji is fucking amazing though from sokyoku shunsui had a head start and yama ji still beat him to the place where they fought....

int terms of speed its like this...
Yama/Aizen
Shunsui
Yoirichi


that's all i can comapre after reading through the databooks.

Now this^ takes the fucking cake Myth!!!!

Yorucichi proved by the manga is the fastest person in the series so far. AIzens lazy ass has never shown any speed, just hypnotise and ambush which isnt speed lol its an illusion, just like the one u have of aizen moving faster then even ichigo in this manga.

And WTF??? Yamas faster then shunsui, but Yorus known by all shinigami as the shunpo God for a reason. Everyone knows how fast yama is yet hes not the shunpo god so do the math.

Aizen and shunsui have shown no incredible speed even near soi fon much less yoru so quit assuming when the manga actually says whos faster and its Yoruichi.

Top speed character by manga feats not gay assumtions and Bias fanning:

#1. Top level is for the fastest which is yoru, but possible rivaling speed from full power Ulquioria and fully powerd ichigo thanks to this blitz rapinghttp://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/350/17/

#2. Is soi fon, yamamoto, Byakuya, grimjaw resurrected.

3. Shunsui, most of the vizards ect.

T9F
12-01-2009, 07:26 PM
Urahara is in the next chapter!!!!!! <3333 *excitedexcitedexcited* :D :D :D

ask me anything
12-01-2009, 08:24 PM
U and ask meanything must be blind because clearly it was stoppedhttp://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/176/25/
then the retarction of the blad not through himhttp://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/03/

WHere the balde on the other side of byakuya???? Yall are blind. myth ur just delusional as ever.

That did clearly go through and here's all the proof.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/03/
See the blood on the sword in the bottom right panel. Theirs about 2 or 3 feet of the sword with blood on it. So it did go through him.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/176/25/
Notice how the sword went into his body. He's standing at an angle so it went into the left side of his chest just to the side of the stomach. If it went through then their should be another wound on the lower right side of his back

[/URL][url]http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/06/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/07/)
Now look at the top right panel. Do you see the wound on his back? You know the wound that is just coincidentally located at the exact same place the sword came out.

So yeah KYF it went through and my eyes work just fine.:)

Konnaha_yellow_flash
12-01-2009, 09:28 PM
[QUOTE]That did clearly go through and here's all the proof.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/03/
See the blood on the sword in the bottom right panel. Theirs about 2 or 3 feet of the sword with blood on it. So it did go through him.

What?? Byakuya caught the sword with his hand too so it go cut and blood went all ver the sword out where Byakuya cut it. Look at the panel again to see that along with the entrance wound, the hand would account the for the blood that far outhttp://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/176/25/
and then we can see the blood spurting of the hand and far enough from the body to be what caused the blood that far (about 16 inches, no more)on the sword.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/176/25/
Notice how the sword went into his body. He's standing at an angle so it went into the left side of his chest just to the side of the stomach. If it went through then their should be another wound on the lower right side of his back

Thast the panel I just showed u and clearly the sword isnt sticking out the other end. No one mentioned it and Kubo didnt even show it. That, and byaukuya hand accounts for the blood so far on the sword so byakuya wasnt fully pierced, just stabbed deep.

[/URL][url]http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/06/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/07/)
Now look at the top right panel. Do you see the wound on his back? You know the wound that is just coincidentally located at the exact same place the sword came out.

Ok, so it does look like it went through some. Still, byakuya stopped the blade with his hand otherwise he'd look like Hyori right now.

So yeah KYF it went through and my eyes work just fine.:)[

Yea I can see that. But the whole arguement over that was byakuaya was wounded, out of raitsu to protect himself yet still stopped the blade from going all the way through (as in going all through him and splitting him in two which it obviously didnt).

ask me anything
12-01-2009, 09:40 PM
^ It wouldn't have cut him in half anyway. Gin stabbed straight at him in a piercing motion while with hiyori was caught with a slashing move.

Am I the only one who finds it strange that byakuya could shunpo over to Aizen grab rukia and not shunpo to the side. Why did he go backwards for? That doesn't make sense does it?

Konnaha_yellow_flash
12-01-2009, 09:53 PM
^ It wouldn't have cut him in half anyway. Gin stabbed straight at him in a piercing motion while with hiyori was caught with a slashing move.

Am I the only one who finds it strange that byakuya could shunpo over to Aizen grab rukia and not shunpo to the side. Why did he go backwards for? That doesn't make sense does it?

Well Byakuya was already wounded and practicly out of energy all togther so its uderstandable I guess. Either that or he got there just in time so he couldnt dodge only block using himself to save rukia. Then again a simple stab isnt enough to kill a shinigami even like rukia so the cutting in half thing might have been the idea IMO.

sikfearless0
12-02-2009, 12:53 AM
Urahara is in the next chapter!!!!!! <3333 *excitedexcitedexcited* :D :D :D

If your talking about a spoiler, you should post it here.

Myth
12-02-2009, 12:54 AM
that spoiler is said to be fake..

Dagoro
12-02-2009, 05:44 AM
We got pics.....lol wow Kubo is just flat out getting lazy.

http://mbup.net/d/108846.jpg

That is the worst mask design ever.

The Special One
12-02-2009, 06:48 AM
That's just plain hideous...

DGLG
12-02-2009, 08:47 AM
we got pics.....lol wow kubo is just flat out getting lazy.

http://mbup.net/d/108846.jpg

that is the worst mask design ever.

hellz yea!!!

I always knew he was a dickhead!!!

Hornster
12-02-2009, 09:24 AM
hellz yea!!!

I always knew he was a dickhead!!!

so true :D

Myth
12-02-2009, 10:09 AM
the mask suits him guys he's blind don't forget it was gonna be something with no eyes, it also means he's mastered his inner hollow so who knows how far he's taking it... maybe he's a real hybrid like ichigo..

T9F
12-02-2009, 01:03 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. his mask makes me LOL. i really want someone to be like "...hey, i know you've been blind for your whole life and all.... but did you notice that you look a lot like a dick?"

ask me anything
12-02-2009, 08:12 PM
http://mbup.net/d/108846.jpg


What up with the Nazi symbol in the bottom panel? Are we about to find out Aizen is the reincarnation of Hitler? lolololololololol

T9F
12-02-2009, 08:44 PM
that symbol is part of BANKAI :p

also: the new chap is out! :) http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/384-7/1

ask me anything
12-02-2009, 09:28 PM
lol, I never knew that meant bankai in the Japanese version.

New chapter is great. Nice flashback of hisagi and tousen. I can't stand his mask. It so hideous and bland. It would have been better if it was unique like it having a cyclops eye on the mask, but just plain white is stupid.

And tousen was scared of dying a normal death like his fellow shingami. WTF is up with that? That's pure stupid. Theirs got to be more to his reasoning than that.

T9F
12-02-2009, 09:36 PM
tousens lame lame lame lame lame.

TheThinker
12-02-2009, 09:46 PM
whos bankai was that koma or hisagi>?

ask me anything
12-02-2009, 10:02 PM
^ that was koma's. Hisagi doesn't have bankai (yet).

Vengeance
12-05-2009, 12:54 PM
KY why are you debating in here if you openly admit to not reading the full manga of bleach? I can't take a single thing you say here seriously until you actually read the fucking manga. GTFO you're a fucking n00b.

Regarding the chapter: Well it looks like Kubo took the more predictable path of Vizard mask. I was hoping for something more to give Tousen a legitimate reason for following Aizen. O well no sight for Tousen.

PS: I actually like his character design I think he looks badarse.

NeoKakarott023
12-07-2009, 11:49 AM
Gin's mask will be hot to death, Fox Capt. is about to be skewered, Hisagi will release his bankai, (but so what, it won't help). Kensei will finish off Wonderweiss, then help in the fight vs. Gin. Dude with the square sword will be fighiting against Gin, and also soon release his bankai for the first time.

Myth
12-07-2009, 01:31 PM
Even though I believe Komamaru might lose you people should give him credit he's extremely strong, His biggest disadvantage is perhaps speed because he's so big but overall he's really strong defensively and offensively he's a powerhouse....

I like him a lot he's way more interesting as a character then half the captains.... It will be a good fight but for now I think Tousen will beat him although not easily.. Or maybe he won't beat him who knows we will see.

Spiegel
12-08-2009, 11:24 AM
I believe Komamaru will get beaten effortlessly, reason being that Tousen has his new fancy mask. I extrapolated this theory based on the countless shonen anime I've seen where if someone gains a new power, power-up, or technique they usually pwn with it first time around. That's traditionally seen a lot in anime and has been seen before in Bleach as well.

I'm almost positive that someone else who's had little screen time, like Urahara or Yurouchi or some of the other captains that haven't released their bankai, will destroy Tousen and Gin.

NiceShot
12-08-2009, 12:53 PM
I'm almost positive that someone else who's had little screen time, like Urahara or Yurouchi or some of the other captains that have released their bankai, will destroy Tousen and Gin.

Have or haven't released? This is getting interesting though,just put aside the fact that Aizen is still unflawed and uber powerful plus a power up of a hollowfication, we manage to get some potentially awesome fights along the way. I agree Komamura isn't gonna win but he might get at least 1 chapter of fighting,maybe 2 if we get a surprise bankai from hisagi,but tousen definitely has to win since going by power he has to at least beat 2 captains to be on par with the primera espada.Also i get the feeling ichigo is gonna be running for 5+ chapters :(

Spiegel
12-08-2009, 04:30 PM
^Fixed it, thanks for pointing that out.

Also, I will have to disagree with you on one thing. The primera lost to two captains that didn't want to release their bankai. If either Kyoraku or Ukitake were to have release their bankai Stark would have been finished with a long time ago. I can see either one of them on par with Tousen or Gin with their masks on (That is if Gin has a mask which I'm sure he does).

SunXia
12-08-2009, 06:46 PM
OK, let's get one thing straight, Ukitake only got involved in the fight between Starrk and Kyoraku because Katen Kyokotsu had not awakened and Ukitake believed Kyoraku shouldn't unleash his Bankai for such a fight!! Yes, Bankai gives a lot of power but it also takes a lot of power to sustain and there was a major fight to come!!

Starrk would have been beat had Katen Kyokotsu not been a stubborn ass zanpakuto from the start!! Ukitake basically bought time for the damn thing to awaken!! Plus, anyway, the fight was still 2-on-2 (3 including Lilynette) since WW got involved anyway!!

Konnaha_yellow_flash
12-08-2009, 08:13 PM
Stark was cool and all, but he was way overhyped. Kyuraku kept up with stark in his released state, took a full power blast from behind, then got up and beat stark with his shikai.

Judging by actual power, speed, skill and special abilites Aizen shouldve left stark in Heuco mundo and brought Ulquirilla because that guy was rediculously strong and had regeneration so no amount of cuts, stabs wouldve beaten him. Only the utter destruction of his internal Organs which took fully Hollowfied ichigo to pull off.

Konnaha_yellow_flash
12-08-2009, 09:55 PM
Credits: pokeballs on mangahelper


Quote:
バレ
当選がわんこの卍解と戦いだす
すぐに場面変わって平子Vs4様に
4様が刀を抜く、平子がそれを見て鏡花水月が来るかもと警戒
しばらくして平子虚化して4様と互角の斬りあいを繰り広げる
4様が「終わらせよう———」と言ったと同時に一護と四番隊長登場
無傷の一護がアップで終わり
適当でわかりづらくてごめんな

Anyone know who 4-sama is? I'll just say Aizen.

Tousen starts battling Komamura's Bankai.
Soon the scene changes to Shinji VS Aizen.
Aizen draws his sword, and seeing this, Shinji warns that Kyouka Suigetsu is probably coming.
After a moment, Shinji puts on his mask and starts fighting with Aizen evenly.
As Aizen says "Let's finish this" Ichigo and Unohana appear.
An uninjured Ichigo powers up and it ends.
(The spoiler writer apologizes if it's hard to understand.)

NiceShot
12-08-2009, 09:57 PM
Also, I will have to disagree with you on one thing. The primera lost to two captains that didn't want to release their bankai. If either Kyoraku or Ukitake were to have release their bankai Stark would have been finished with a long time ago. I can see either one of them on par with Tousen or Gin with their masks on (That is if Gin has a mask which I'm sure he does).

I agree with you that Kyoraku or Ukitake would of beaten him,i was getting at the 2 vizard captains that Stark actually beat and would of killed if it wasn't for Shusui,and i don't count him getting beaten by Stark since he was able to get up and fight again,Ukitake got blindsided by WW so that's not Stark's victory either.Tousen has Komamura and Hisagi at the moment,but Gin is on another level than tousen so i feel he'll fight Shunsui and even the old fart as well,Aizen will "play" with Shinji in the meantime.

The Special One
12-08-2009, 11:49 PM
WHAT? Finally an interesting chapter of Bleach? I can't believe it. Shinji fighting evenly with Aizen? Enjoying! Though Aizen probably didn't go dramatic yet, but it's interesting to see someone not be killed in one second against Aizen.

And now Ichigo shows up and powers up.lol He goes super saiyan...

Spiegel
12-09-2009, 12:24 AM
That's pretty cool about Shinji fighting Aizen in what looks like an even match, of course Aizen is probably not even using half strength. Still....and now Ichigo finally shows up. meh.... You know Unohana just gives her patients senzu beans heal them which is why Ichigo is all better.

Myth
12-09-2009, 01:05 AM
the spoiler is fake the source was fake..................check MH

The Special One
12-09-2009, 01:15 AM
Damn.lol People are off their rockers this week.lol

edit: would've been a sweet chapter...

Myth
12-09-2009, 01:23 AM
did you honestly believe shinji would fight on "par" lmfaoooo, or did u honestly believe the fight would start this chapter and go fully in lo.l...

The Special One
12-09-2009, 01:40 AM
Story progression at least with Ichigo showing up... I know Aizen would've been toying with Shinji, but it's still nice to see someone not utterly silenced by Aizen for a change...

T9F
12-09-2009, 06:09 AM
shinji either went shikai or bankai in this chapter. probs shikai, because it would be obvious if he went bankai, right?

Myth
12-09-2009, 07:46 PM
So the new spoiler shows a few things..

1- Komamaru's arm was owned because his bankai is somehow connected to him so when he gets hurt so does Kom...

2 - Tousen also has high speed regeneration proving my theory on him being a real hybrid like ichigo, his mask starts to change also... good for aizen...i guess

3 - aizen and shinji are about to fight shinji tries to get aizen worked up with trash talk rofll and aizen just brushes him off, he also says something about his sword also being able to control senses.... i can't wait to see him fail lol..

4 - not sure but judging from the spoiler tousen got some kind of release off his sword something about the darkness becoming thicker and bigger... maybe some modified version of his bankai.

ooO)Flash(Ooo
12-14-2009, 02:55 PM
how is this out i thought they were stil on fail fillers o.O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkLh8Sgta8Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFR5tebnVzM&feature=related

Myth
12-14-2009, 03:02 PM
how is this out i thought they were stil on fail fillers o.O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkLh8Sgta8Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFR5tebnVzM&feature=related

thats is someone who is extremely good with video and other shit.. they had a few naruto scenes also before they came out.

ooO)Flash(Ooo
12-14-2009, 03:04 PM
thats is someone who is extremely good with video and other shit.. they had a few naruto scenes also before they came out.

wow u telling me a fan made that:O?

naruto_nutty
12-15-2009, 03:50 AM
i'm hearing that clip was from the psp Bleach game; Soul Carnival 2

sikfearless0
12-15-2009, 01:50 PM
sources : sleep@flol
verification : Pending

Bleach 386 Fall Into The Deep Darkness!

The Distant Darkness is covering the sky.

A desire for a peaceful world that was stronger than anyone…

Tousen revealing his resurreccion “Grillar Grillo”
“Lunatic Shackles Cricket”

Gotei 13 and the Vizards : !

Tousen’s transformation has wings like a grasshopper, with antenna and a short scythe-hands.

Tousen :
I want strength. this will be the strength to help me create peace. Now Die! Komamura

Komamaura: Tousen(getting ready to defend)

Tousen then sonido’s infront of Koma
uses a pure black multiple of scythes same as ichigo’s getsuga tensho.
such strikes so fast. Komamura didn’t have the chance to dodge it.

Komamura fells down full of blood. his clothes was torned his upper body. seeing him almost naked

Toushiro : No way!

Tousen: Komamura you don’t have an idea how corrupt and unjust Soul Society is. With this power we can change the world.

Toushiro shunpo’s near Komamamura,
Toushiro: Tousen you!

Tousen: Hitsugaya, Are you going to avenge your fallen comrade? come! I will give you a one trip to hell!

Toushiro: I won’t say that if I were you,

Even witnessing my ressureccion you still want to fight me?

Toushiro: Bankai! Daiguren Hyourinmaru!

Tousen : Even witnessing my ressureccion you still want to fight me using that?

Toushiro uses “Sennen Hyoro”(thousand year ice prison)
tousen being imprisoned inside. Toushiro then uses “Ryusenka”(Dragon Hail Flower).

Tousen destroying the Ice Prison with just a Spiritual Pressure. and Sonido’s behind Toushiro.

Tousen: Being reckless has been always your style.
Toushiro: !
Tousen uses a black cero! Hitsugaya can’t react receiving the power in point blank. Sends him far away.

Scene changes to Kensei and WW.

Kensei charges spiritual energy in Tachikaze and fires white energy blasts from his hand with extreme force. blowing away W.W

Kensei : Rose, Love take care of this brat!

He then rushes to Tousen.
Kensei appeares in front of Tousen.

Kensei: long time no say Kaname.
your here for revenge?
what a coincidence isn’t it?
-end

next chapter – Revenge

Myth
12-15-2009, 01:53 PM
^i seriously doubt that will be a real spoiler no fucking way will kubo rush things like this no way... fake...

Konnaha_yellow_flash
12-15-2009, 04:38 PM
Ha Haaaaaaaa, that shit is poetic! hopefully kubo knows kensei is the only challenge for tousen and with revenge in mind takes his ass out.

The Special One
12-16-2009, 07:14 AM
soruce: Ba
credit: Negativezero
verification: Confirmed

quick summary, its really short so not really worth doing an accurate one.

Tousen's transformation looks like ryuuk from death note.
Tengen myoou gets wtfpwned
hisagi defeats tousen
hisagi gets on top of ryuuk-tousen and uses kazeshini to stab his head from behind
there is a flashback of tousen's friend

theres some godies featured in jump this week.
Rukia on the book spine.
First page features ichigo and aizen.
Back page has rukia on it.

There is talk about a movie coming out next winter, details in the next issue.

OMGWTFBBQ

Really, I mean really...

Myth
12-16-2009, 09:36 AM
so like i said the kensei spoiler was fake...

and wow really lmfaooo he pwns wolf boy he's a real hybrid like ichigo and then he gets offed from the back.. first stark now him is this really the only way kubo can write in a defeat by having some loser attack him from the back?

although i hope he isn't dead..

freedom07
12-16-2009, 10:36 AM
this is waaaay too much bullshit that i can take...

you know what its soo much bullshit that i reckon alll this is just kyoka suigetsu again..

this entiiiireeee thing! the top3 espadas are still alive and the shinigamis are just fighting random arrancars and hollows that have been changed to espadas and aizen due to kyoka suigetsu
kinda like when pain used his jutsus to make an itachi and kisame.

first barragan gets taken out by his own thing after showing such a godly power to be defeated by kido!?!?!? and well shitty bankai from soifon

next stark gets killed from shikai.

and hallibel gets killed by aizen lol

now tousen gets killed by shikai from behind!?!?!

these kills are getting more ridiculous as they go on.
i call gin offing himself next
and aizen gets pwned by hyoris cut off legs

The Special One
12-16-2009, 10:51 AM
now tousen gets killed by shikai from behind!?!?!

Yeah... Though it is more retarded considering that Tousen is blind yet can avoid frontal attacks however, he can't avoid Hisgai's? I'm under the impression that you can attack this guy from all angles and he'd avoid (considering he doesn't focus on eye sight).

Him getting blind sided is dumb because he can't see anyway.lol WHy not attack him up front? Just ridiculous Kubo, just ridiculous...

Edit: How do you blindside a blind guy?

uzumaki619
12-16-2009, 11:34 AM
http://narutodreamz.blogspot.com/2009/12/bleach-386-spoiler-pics-and-summaries.html

The Special One
12-16-2009, 11:43 AM
So now he gets vision? Wow...

sikfearless0
12-16-2009, 12:40 PM
Wow....What a gay way for the only black person in Bleach to die. Touson was a great character from the beginning. It felt like he had more feeling to him then most secondary characters. It somewhat makes sense that since he could see he didn't have that DareDevil ability. So then he wouldn't be able to Hisagi's attack comming.

Myth
12-16-2009, 04:36 PM
if tousen is dead such garbage who do u kill a guy from behind kubo its so fucking wackk.. i wanted to see kensei vs tousen later on..pafuckingthetic...

T9F
12-16-2009, 05:29 PM
if tousen is dead such garbage who do u kill a guy from behind kubo its so fucking wackk.. i wanted to see kensei vs tousen later on..pafuckingthetic...

not a lot of people get their heads cut in half and survive lol.

but theres that whole fact that he can heal himself so maybe well be lucky?

TheThinker
12-16-2009, 06:19 PM
if this is really whats gonna be in the chapter its gonna be a stupid one what happend with shinjis shikai ? i would wanna see that now more than tousen dying

Hikaru
12-17-2009, 11:42 PM
bleach keeps getting more disappointing by the day, Kubo keeps killing the bad guys in a very stupid way, yet very few good guys have died and all the "strong" good guys still out there and please don't tell me that after coming all the way and bragging so much Aizen is just going to run away with his tail between his legs.

We need a genocide of good guys to make things even.

TheThinker
12-18-2009, 02:15 AM
honestly dont count tousen out yet tho.. he might still be alive jus blind again.im pullin for him cuz it seems like all the bad guys r droppin like flies

NeoKakarott023
12-19-2009, 11:29 PM
Blind Justice Pathetic Transformation Fool is dead and stinking, the strike Hisagi struck on him went all the way through his head under his chin and neck. Kill the head, and the rest of the sorry sack goes to sleep. Komamura still may not live, he lost his entire chest cavity. Shinji I'm sure will die by Aizen's hands, but he may surprize Aizen with something, a surprize is due. I'm not surprized by how fast Kubo is killing his villans. It seems like he's in a mad dash rush to finish the manga soon.

Myth
12-20-2009, 12:29 AM
Blind Justice Pathetic Transformation Fool is dead and stinking, the strike Hisagi struck on him went all the way through his head under his chin and neck. Kill the head, and the rest of the sorry sack goes to sleep. Komamura still may not live, he lost his entire chest cavity. Shinji I'm sure will die by Aizen's hands, but he may surprize Aizen with something, a surprize is due. I'm not surprized by how fast Kubo is killing his villans. It seems like he's in a mad dash rush to finish the manga soon.

thats the thing he said in a interview there are a few more arcs before the end this shit will prob keep going till 2011.... and longer...

Komamaru is a good captain i like the guy it sukcs that he didn't wanna fight seriously because he didn't wanna hurt tousen even after all the shit tousen said he still considers him as a friend..


he's kind of like naruto.

freedom07
12-20-2009, 03:03 AM
naaah komamaru fought seriously, there wasnt nothing else he coulda done, his bankai was at its limit
komamaru is just pure power and once tousen became physically more powerful, it was over

i really do hope tousen is still alive, but he got flashbacks which means hes most likely dead

SunXia
12-20-2009, 07:50 AM
I wonder if Aizen does still have VLs about since well it does seem like the end for Tosen given that the ending was pure emotional!! Does seem pretty fitting given that Tosen had always live without his sight and thus had to rely on his other senses, which were hyped up to hell, but as soon as he found sight, he was so overwhelmed by it that he became slightly imbalanced and misjudged the situation 1) not expecting Hisagi to get back up and 2) not sensing him until it was too late!!

NeoKakarott023
12-20-2009, 11:37 AM
He got caught up in the moment because Komamura was toast, and just got skewered. I guess he just forgot he was fighting 2 people, and people we have to give Hisagi dap, he's ben knocked down and supposedly out by several different opponents, several times and kept gettin up. Do I sense a promotion to Capt for him?

Nameer
12-24-2009, 08:39 AM
http://uploading.com/files/726ef141/Bleach387.zip/

Awaitsu
12-24-2009, 08:54 AM
Am I seeing things right?

Somebody cut Aizen? And here I thought I'd never see the day. It's about damn time.

Myth
12-24-2009, 12:20 PM
haahahhahahahahahaha shinji thought he had Aizen ROFLLFLFLFLFLFLFLFLFLFL... The look on Shinji''s face after he got cut up from the back was priceless..

Oh my Ichigo arrives how "unpredictable" right when aizen is about to start killing shinji the savior comes..

Dagoro
12-24-2009, 01:13 PM
Looks like Tousen might have had a relapse before dying.

Want to read the script now.

Myth
12-24-2009, 01:24 PM
Shinji's ability isn't actually to "control" senses as he bragged its more of a mirror effect thats what i got out of it and it seems aizen figured it out right away as well lmfaoo so much for shinji's big talk...

on another opponent shinji would pawn on azien LOL..

-Shinji cuts Aizen, Aizen has a "shocked" face
-Shinji thinks he's the shit, till he realizes that was just an illusion and Aizen ass rapes him from behind
-Aizen gives another speech to shit on the persona of shinji and make him feel like shit
-Tousen becomes good at the end seem to actually still be alive and not dead(guess hisagi didn't kill him
-Something weird happens and tousen has blood gushing from him, either gin did that or aizen used his kyoka suigetsu to do that while shinji was "cutting" the illusion and then aizen broke it and tousen was dead..
-Ichigo pops out of a similar kido that aizen used in the pedulum arc(Unohana prob used it to help hide ichigo and try to get him as close as possible to aizen)

Good chapters from both bleach and naruto this week, sucks that tousen got offed by either gin or aizen though... i still don't get it lmfao..

-Ulqiora dies = turns good
-Stark dies = he was never "bad" just followed them because he wanted tome friends
-Barragan dies = he was only with aizen because aizen wtf pwned him and his army to easily
-Tousen dies and becomes good
-Gin will die and become good

I mean really"?

Myth
12-24-2009, 03:19 PM
Bleach 387: Ignited

Continues from the last chapter, a scene cuts to Hirako and Aizen. Aizen commented “Kazanade” looks interesting.

“Isn’t it? But I’m not letting you borrow it.” Replied Hirako

“But I see no difference. Had I heard it wrong about how it can control the ability to sense?”

“What are you saying? Looks, it’s changing, ah~ah~ah~here here” Looks like Shinji smells something then says, “doesn’t it smell nice?”

Aizen realized but Shinji said it was too late. He swung his sword once and told Aizen, “Welcome to the Reversed World.”

With that, Aizen’s point of view is reversed. Shinji is now standing upside down in front of him. He looks a little surprised while he continues to listen to Shinji’s talk.

“This is my Kazanade’s ability. It reverses the opponent’s senses like just a game, right? But someone like you probably never played games” Shinji then charged at Aizen but Aizen just stood there waiting.

“Indeed it is interesting. Everything is reversed. Up and down. Left and right. Which means….” Aizen turned, “Front and back are reversed as well.”

“You didn’t expect me to see through, did you?” He mocked while blocking Shinji’s sword from the right side. But Aizen’s surprised to see his left arm got slashed.

“You didn’t expected it, did you?” Said Shinji,"Up, down, right, left, front, back, everything is reversed. So are your eyesight and the direction you get cut are reversed too.”

“Up, down, left, right, front, back including the direction to attack, you can counter by picturing the vision in your head? No way. No one could do that. Stronger you are, the more you’re used to fighting, the more you rely on your senses.” Then he dashed toward Aizen aiming to cut him but was shocked it didn’t hit him.

“So that is it. It’s just vision deceiving.” Then Shinji got cut on his side while Aizen continued, “It’s still far away from my senses-controlled ability. Once you get use to it, it doesn’t matter. It’s just a child-play level, Hirako Shinji.”
-------------------

Why

A sound echoes around and Tousen’s flashbacks are shown. A young man from Rugonkai screamed while his way was blocked.

“Why wasn’t he executed? Please! Let me see Central 46! Please! Anyone! Anyone…..”

Why.....Why....Why.....Why....

A scene cuts to the present time. Tousen slowly opens his eyes to see Kumamura and Hisagi in front of him. Tousen wanted to say something but Komamura stopped him.

“Your hollow energy allows you to breathe but your neck was deeply stabbed. So..better not to speak now.”

Tousen touched his throat then Komamura talks, “Before the battle, you said you knew ‘the day would come for us to fight’. Truthfully, I felt the same way while battled.”

“Perhaps Hisagi felt that too. Our relationships didn’t last. The day for us to clash the swords would have come. But this is it….it’s the destiny for us to truly understand each other from the hearts.” Tousen looks at Komamura while he continues, “I will not tell you to stop being angry. I will not tell you to stop hating. But I beg you, don’t think only about revenge until you lose youself. Like when you lost your best friend. Should I lose you, my heart would be empty as well.”

Tousen remains quiet for a while before saying with tear runs down his eye, “…Thank you, Komamura.” Then he calls Hisagi.

“Let me see your face clearly…Because of the side affect from resurreccion I still can see….for now…I want to see your face clearly for once….” But before he could see him, Tousen’s body exploded leaving bloodstain on both Komamura and Hisagi. Komamura’s face changed into rage and screams at Aizen who is looking down at the scene.

Right at that moment, the sky cracked and Ichigo who is in full bankai clothes appears behind Aizen.

It seems SS is one corrupt fucking Organization I mean a guy murdered his wife and was let go to be free... I now see Why Tousen followed Aizen I think He perhaps wanted to try and change SS if he would rule it one day...

So Hisagi didn't kill him Aizen did some shit Hisagi Just badly injured him he could have prob been saved if Hiyori who lost half her body still lives.. Tousen always was Komamaru's friend he was just trying to deceive him when he said hurtful shit to both Hisagi and Him...

Shinji lmfaoooo poor guy such a nice ability and yet Aizen still had him trapped as I predicted. I smell Shinji/Ichigo Vs Aizen. I hope Shinji gets his solo fight though and I want Aizen to kill him..

T9F
12-24-2009, 04:02 PM
I want Aizen to kill him..

tsk, myth i expected more from you. this is bleach. shinji is part of ichigos vaizard bitch crew. he wont die. durrr.

Myth
12-24-2009, 05:13 PM
tsk, myth i expected more from you. this is bleach. shinji is part of ichigos vaizard bitch crew. he wont die. durrr.

He has to Jiraiya was also part of Naruto's "crew" yet kishi had the balls to kill him.. shinji is similar to jiraiya actually both him and jiraiya took interest in a certain kid, and they do have a good friendship..

Shinji dying will be the best thing for ichigo to finally break from his shell the way he is now he's useless...

freedom07
12-24-2009, 06:46 PM
but bleach doesnt really kill good guys

like u said frickin hyori is still alive
only bad guys die, exactly why stark died from just a slash ...kenpachi took like 200 of those and still lived

TheThinker
12-24-2009, 09:53 PM
no way shinji is dying anytime soon lol he is the leader of the vizards lmao u know important good guys dont die or chad would have been dead as useless as he is

Myth
12-24-2009, 10:29 PM
no way shinji is dying anytime soon lol he is the leader of the vizards lmao u know important good guys dont die or chad would have been dead as useless as he is

chads a mian character and he isn't useless his powers haven't fully awaken yet we all saw how much of a monster he was when he was fighting the old espada..

Spiegel
12-24-2009, 11:21 PM
So another shitty chapter where Aizen's uber-perfection awesome rears its head once more. Aizen is boring -_____-

TheThinker
12-25-2009, 12:56 AM
i wonder if ichigo will ever be truly accepted into soul society

Myth
12-25-2009, 01:16 AM
So another shitty chapter where Aizen's uber-perfection awesome rears its head once more. Aizen is boring -_____-

shinji's ability is cool though, his zanpakto is basically a mirror like thing where everything u see is the opposite so when aizen went to "block" the hit from the back it really came from the front.. to bad aizen was way better lol..

Aizen
Shinji
Shunsui

Best Shikai in the series.

ask me anything
12-25-2009, 01:25 AM
I can't believe shinji just explained every facet of his shikai to aizen like that. What a moron!!! If he had any sense at all he'd keep his secrets to himself and make aizen figure it our himself.

Myth
12-25-2009, 01:47 AM
I can't believe shinji just explained every facet of his shikai to aizen like that. What a moron!!! If he had any sense at all he'd keep his secrets to himself and make aizen figure it our himself.

Bragging is stupid Aizen is the only man to brag about his ability and still have nobody figure out how it really works..

TheThinker
12-25-2009, 03:32 AM
hmmm i think we havent seen shinjis shikai to its full extent tho

freedom07
12-25-2009, 08:39 AM
thats a huge flaw in all bleach characters, they brag far too much

ask me anything
12-25-2009, 06:00 PM
There's nothing wrong with bragging about how strong you are. As long a your the strongest person, which Aizen is. So Aizen can brag as much as he wants to and that's all good. Shinji is different. He's already been fooled and beat by aizen once before and him bragging to Aizen about his powers is just plain stupid. If he had kept his mouth shut he could have got a few hits on aizen before he figured it out. Now it looks like that 1 hit is all he's going to get before Aizen totally annihilates him.

NeoKakarott023
12-30-2009, 03:18 PM
I honestly thought that Shinji couldn't touch Aizen, guess I was wrong. If thats the case Aizens gonna get raped when Ichigo goes Hollow.

Myth
12-30-2009, 03:47 PM
I honestly thought that Shinji couldn't touch Aizen, guess I was wrong. If thats the case Aizens gonna get raped when Ichigo goes Hollow.

it was a fucking illusion u idiot, and even if he did really give a minro paper cut lmfaoo its thx to his shikai he would do that to even yamamoto so i guess ichigo>yamato as well..

don't be a dumbass...

NeoKakarott023
12-31-2009, 04:56 PM
I knew you couldn't sit idlely by when someone said something bad about your whore Aizen.

Konnaha_yellow_flash
12-31-2009, 05:47 PM
it was a fucking illusion u idiot, and even if he did really give a minro paper cut lmfaoo its thx to his shikai he would do that to even yamamoto so i guess ichigo>yamato as well..

don't be a dumbass...

By ur same fail logic Aizen couldnt possibly touch yamamoto without his special hax either so ur bitching about hax when ur Idol hax the most powerful and is so strong becuase of it too.

And no it wasnt an illusion, aizen actaully got cut just as shinji did which just proves aizen isnt shit without his hax protecting his ass.

T9F
12-31-2009, 06:33 PM
kyf is right. aizen did get cut, it wasnt an illusion. http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/387/12/ look at his arm. he just figured out what shinjis zanpakuto was like so he could attack back.

Myth
12-31-2009, 06:58 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/387/21-22/
Aizen at the end of the chapter


http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/387/10/
Aizen's right arm being cut


I don't see any cut on his right arm at the end of the chapter... Also Shinji said no matter who you are you can't try and reflect things in your mind as they would be... Yet Aizen still gave shinji a large slash across the back.. Meaning

A- Aizen is just to good of a fighter

B- iT WAS AN ILLUSION SHINJI WAS CUTTING

But Like I said thats the reason why i think it was an illusion that and because of the last panel where his right arm has not cut.... But I guess waiting till the next chapter will have to do..

T9F
12-31-2009, 07:10 PM
his cut is lower down than what the last pannel shows. (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/387/12/ http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/387/21-22/) aizen is a really good fighter, but i dont think it was an illusion. the next chapter will show us for sure :).

Konnaha_yellow_flash
12-31-2009, 07:22 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/387/21-22/
Aizen at the end of the chapter


http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/387/10/
Aizen's right arm being cut


I don't see any cut on his right arm at the end of the chapter... Also Shinji said no matter who you are you can't try and reflect things in your mind as they would be... Yet Aizen still gave shinji a large slash across the back.. Meaning

A- Aizen is just to good of a fighter

B- iT WAS AN ILLUSION SHINJI WAS CUTTING

But Like I said thats the reason why i think it was an illusion that and because of the last panel where his right arm has not cut.... But I guess waiting till the next chapter will have to do..

LMAO!! Seriously, The part of aizens arm that was cut is out of phrame so it mustve been an illusion:confused::confused::rolleyes:

And ur forgeting shinjis hax is a optical illusion type so his cut may be the actual illusion, not aizens lol. However, thats Impossible in ur reality where Aizen is acutally a high class shinigami captain without his super hax lol.

Aizens illusion power is a crutch that helps carry his just above average ass, but once that crutch is gone, Aizens left wabling and weak in a world of true high level captains who stand firm and balanced like yoruichi, yamamoto, shunshui and even Ichigo.

Myth
12-31-2009, 08:58 PM
Yeah tech maybe it was lower in the arm we'll see...Aizen really is prob just that good of a shinigami...

After all TO ALL THE FUCKING NEWBS KYF ESPECIALLY THE DATABOOK HAS AIZEN ON PAR WITH OLD MAN YAMA IN OVERALL SKILLS AND ABILITY.... links can be provided.

And this is when Aizen was hiding his true powers while in SS god knows how much power he really has.. but even if it just that Yma is said to be the strongest shinigami in SS and for aizen to match that is incredible... And he's even more deadly cause of his sword..

slobatx
01-02-2010, 11:05 AM
i guess the vizards are just another group that are gonna waste time in the manga. They are former captains with more powers but they get dominated by Aizen easily all to build the hype of Ichigo. Ichigo probably has more DBZ like powers since he was healed by Unohana.

Dagoro
01-03-2010, 02:52 AM
Don't know if this has been posted here yet ( probably has ) but for anyone who hasn't seen it

Resurrection Ichigo vs Second resurrection Ulquiorra. Clip from Bleach soul carnival, ubber badass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOQZyx7swPE&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_qMB8-qh-Y&feature=player_embedded

* I was going to post this at the B. anime section but that place is more empty than Paris Hilton's skull *

Z-Dragon
01-03-2010, 07:26 PM
Don't know if this has been posted here yet ( probably has ) but for anyone who hasn't seen it

Resurrection Ichigo vs Second resurrection Ulquiorra. Clip from Bleach soul carnival, ubber badass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOQZyx7swPE&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_qMB8-qh-Y&feature=player_embedded

* I was going to post this at the B. anime section but that place is more empty than Paris Hilton's skull *
That was some cool clip you found man!

Yeah tech maybe it was lower in the arm we'll see...Aizen really is prob just that good of a shinigami...

After all TO ALL THE FUCKING NEWBS KYF ESPECIALLY THE DATABOOK HAS AIZEN ON PAR WITH OLD MAN YAMA IN OVERALL SKILLS AND ABILITY.... links can be provided.

And this is when Aizen was hiding his true powers while in SS god knows how much power he really has.. but even if it just that Yma is said to be the strongest shinigami in SS and for aizen to match that is incredible... And he's even more deadly cause of his sword..

Dude, calm your ass down! Shinji freaking cut him. If it were an illusion, this would have happened...

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/376/03/

Instead, this happened...

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/387/10/

Compare his reaction to the first link.

Myth
01-03-2010, 07:33 PM
That was some cool clip you found man!



Dude, calm your ass down! Shinji freaking cut him. If it were an illusion, this would have happened...

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/376/03/

Instead, this happened...

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/387/10/

Compare his reaction to the first link.

i know kiddo i said i may have been wrong since his arm isn't fully shown.. i just think he wasn't cut but then again given his abilities being equal to yama ji its possible that he was cut but then evade the next 1 cause he's just that good...

Anywyas thats something we will see next chapter.

manta
01-03-2010, 09:29 PM
If it bleeds we can kill it... Aizen's gonna get raped

T9F
01-03-2010, 11:40 PM
i will lol if the person who made tousen blow up was kensei.

ask me anything
01-03-2010, 11:56 PM
Tousens transformation has me thinking bad thoughts. I just can't get the image of gin turning into a weasel out of my head. lmao that's like the perfect hollow resurrection for him

Myth
01-03-2010, 11:57 PM
gin and aizen turning hollow before their bankai would be a major slap in the face.. to all the fans.

T9F
01-04-2010, 12:40 AM
gin looks more like a fox than a weasel imo. i agree with myth. because then they will probs die shortly after that and we wont know what their bankais were originally like.

NeoKakarott023
01-04-2010, 10:09 AM
I can't say if Aizen got cut now that you mention it Myth, his Hypnosis Hax is so ridiculous I could believe that he'd survive the entire span of the manga and not get touched, so he's kinda like Sly Stallone in 'Cobra'. Has anyone noticed that he didn't even get punched one time in the whole freaking movie. That was wack, just how Bleach will turn out if no one can ever get past Aizen's 'shikai'... and since thats so haxxd out, what is Aizen's possible Bankai, "End All Time in the World"???

ask me anything
01-04-2010, 07:40 PM
gin and aizen turning hollow before their bankai would be a major slap in the face.. to all the fans.

I wouldn't put anything past kubo. He does write this manga with no long term goal.

If next chapter kubo has aizen turn around and tell ichigo "I am your father" and then goes on a 3 week break, then that would be a slap in the face:)

Myth
01-04-2010, 11:44 PM
I can't say if Aizen got cut now that you mention it Myth, his Hypnosis Hax is so ridiculous I could believe that he'd survive the entire span of the manga and not get touched, so he's kinda like Sly Stallone in 'Cobra'. Has anyone noticed that he didn't even get punched one time in the whole freaking movie. That was wack, just how Bleach will turn out if no one can ever get past Aizen's 'shikai'... and since thats so haxxd out, what is Aizen's possible Bankai, "End All Time in the World"???

aizen is gangster overall in the first ever databook while aizen was still a "captain" he was fully on par with yamamoto. there skills were neck and neck and that was aizen still "hiding" most of his power i wonder what his power level is really like..

Myth
01-13-2010, 10:58 AM
so the spoiler is confirmed..

Ichig Breaks through the Graganta attacks aizen and fails miserably he puts on his mask keeps attacking and aizen just toys with him and says shit to provoke him...

eventually komamaru says don't get provoked, and all the captains minus old man gather and are ready to take on aizen 1 on many lmaoo..

Oh btw judging from the spoiler pics it seems AIZEN WAS NOT CUT and that it was him toying with shinji...

Xicidal
01-13-2010, 12:58 PM
I get the feeling from the chapter cover that Aizen will eventually have everybody that's under his spell attack Ichigo. Lol, even if he doesn't get Ichigo under the spell he already has them...

SunXia
01-13-2010, 03:18 PM
Not if they take a defensive stance, he'd need to trick Ichigo into attacking one of THEM!! And anyway, Shinji's cut given to him by Tosen keeps appearing and reappearing in the Manga so we dunno yet if Aizen was cut!! Nice to see some new stuff out!!

Konnaha_yellow_flash
01-13-2010, 04:49 PM
WHeres this damn chapter??? Lol, why is oneP.O.S. out before bleachs ichigo vs aizen????

I wana see myth squirm as the time of ichigos full hollowfication which will pwn aizen, draws nearer and nearer.

Ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaa!

The Special One
01-13-2010, 05:03 PM
Spoiler sounds like a typical Bleach week. First Kubo makes it seem like Ichigo is the only who can fight Aizen then automatically he gets shit-fed and now he needs to work collectively with the Captains, or he's crap.lol OMG MAKE UP YOUR YOUR MIND!

Myth
01-13-2010, 06:03 PM
the fact that kubo just made all captains minus 1 plus ichigo vs Aizen just shows how weak and pathetic they all are comapred to aizen...

Not only that but every fucking newb who was screaming aizen was cut was wrong as i said...

T9F
01-13-2010, 06:38 PM
lol'd at the fact that soifon's going to fight with one arm.

The Special One
01-13-2010, 09:39 PM
.lol

didn't she still use Bankai without it?

And why is Old man Yama not appearing in the last image of the chapter (based of the spoilers)?

I have a feeling Kubo is dodging the Old man...

Raifire
01-14-2010, 02:42 PM
Next weeks first panel will have Aizen grinning and then some "unknown" baddie will show up...

Either way I'm so confused as to where this is going.

Maybe Ichigo's dad will show up to fight with Aizen... that would be funny. Doubtful but funny.

The Old Man can't really fight unless it is one on one with Aizen. Too much risk in him killing his own people under an illusion.

Jumare
01-16-2010, 03:55 PM
I predict that Gin will pawn all those captains next week with his bankai, leaving aizen and ichigo to face off once more. Then just about when Aizen slashes ichigo in half, help shows up (Urahara, Yoruichi and prob tessai...)

woody_3162
01-16-2010, 04:23 PM
hmmmm...

i reckon kurotschi mayuri was nice enough to give ichigo another version of his superhuman formula so ichigo gets a sharingan like ability as able to see aizen in slow motion... now hopefully the git can manage to land a hit even though he's supposed to be in bankai and hollow form and supposed to be super fast in the first place...seriously what is the point of his bankai if all he can do is 'just about' keep up with people!

even better...urahara drops by and screws with aizen by making every single person look like ichigo!!!

now aizen can't tell which ichigo is the one that can really see him!!

NiceShot
01-26-2010, 09:12 PM
Kubo at one point had a chance to redeem himself/this manga but as of now i'm just not seeing the possibilities, Gin would of been the only one to of taken Aizen down somehow but that's probably not gonna happen since Aizen specifically said he doesn't trust "ANYBODY!" or wants to be trusted :mad: with that said this guy never let's his guard down. Kubo should just quit and stick to oneshots from now on,he should handover this story to another mangaka or just about anybody in this forum.

I predict Aizen gets killed by choking on the dust that was once ulquiorra :cool:

Myth
01-26-2010, 10:18 PM
I have this theory on on how ichigo lost most of his full power despite his reistsu being high.. Remember when he fought his inner hollow the fucker said he took over zangetsu because he kept getting stronger.. i think everytime ichigo grows the hollow eats his spirtual energy being that its so high thats the reason ichigo has a vasto lorde type hollow(obviously aizen will have 1 too)...

maybe by losing zangetsu he's also at the same time while gaining power lost it as well, i find it funny how he always needs bankai to just keep up and then a mask to try and level ahead... he was a lot stronger when he had zangetsu by his side, this hollow is doing more bad then good for him, especially since he's skills as a shinigami are horrible..

he needs zangetsu back and needs to train again with him...

Dagoro
01-27-2010, 06:38 AM
Confirmed spoiler

まったく話は進まない。
Looks like the story didn't move at all.
ヒツガヤ突っ込むもかわさる
Hitsugaya attacks and gets parried.
コマムラ斬られる
Then Komamura is slashed.

銀は棒立ち。
Gin is standing there.
今回は銀が解説役。
This time, Gin does the talking.

The rest of the spoiler, added later by Ohana and translated by Sheetz @ FLOL:
590 :ohana ◆IR7jauNn4E :2010/01/27(水) 17:05:55 ID:cpQoKpa7P

約3ページ戦いシーン。
一言もセリフなし。
There’s about 3 pages of fighting scenes where there’s not a word of dialog.

。。。。

ワンワンは愛染にやられたったよ~
明王も~
Komamura is defeated by Aizen. Myoou as well.

Joy21
01-27-2010, 07:35 AM
I could not agree more. Most importantly Ichigo didn't evolve at all in my opinion (I mean having an unstable hollow inside you i don't call it evolving and the hollow also thinks about devouring ichigo lol) I think Zangetsu will step in and freeze the time (like he did in the fight against zaraki). Then he will teach Ichigo a new attack as Ichigo has only one attack in his arsenal (Getsuga tensou). But even then we saw zangetsu using this attack only in the current ongoing filler. God knows what will happen. Going by the flow Ichigo will never beat Aizen. Kubo messed up big time. I mean Ichigo is the only one who can defeat Aizen and he almost has 0 firepower and 0 defense and needs to be protected by the other Taichos (even they are getting pounded lol). Aizen hasn't released his kyoka suigetsu till now. we have interesting chapters coming our way folks

Gakure
01-27-2010, 08:28 AM
Credit : ohana @2ch
Verification : FAKE
Translation: Breakn2

ると、新着メールをすぐに確認できて
Suddenly, everyone’s view gets foggy.

既にサイ愛染 契約書に既にふたりともサイリサ
Rose sword-battled with Aizen, but it turned out to be Lisa.

愛川ンジーを愛染良く知る友 砕蜂親権とそれ
Love fired a giant cero to Aizen, who turned out to be Soi Fong, who blocked it with a kido barrier.

リー愛染にふたりともサ
Another Aizen appears among the mist, but no one made a move.

ひよ里 多方面で活 卯ノ花 烈躍中のタレント
Hiyori opens her eyes and sees Unohana healing her with her kido.

ひよ里スの天空
Hiyori looks at the sky

愛染 るタレントの小真子, 真子それを
Aizen is right behind Shinji, but Shinji does not know.

一護入者を対真子クスのぢ
Ichigo saves Shinji from being slashed and pushed Aizen back.

一護面いんりそう
Ichigo’s mask cracks.

京楽 春水: 卍解
Shunsui: Bankai.

うんちゃらかんちゃら
The hilts of his swords extended.

俺は護られていいんだ~うん
‘展開狂骨ちゃ花天’
Now his swords resemble a pair of oars
“Cries of Black Skeletons, Lightning Scars Wilt The Flowers”

ヒツガヤ突っ込む斬りかガヤ突っ
The area is covered with 6 pillars that is emboldened with skeletons
Aurora looking waves drape around the pillars

京楽 春水: うんこりそう展開だりそわ
Shunshui: I have always suspected it could work against that

イチゴから愛染斬りかかるが、かわりそうされ春水る卍解
The fake images shattered… Aizen’s hypnosis was ineffective in Shunsui’s Bankai. Everyone realizes who they were actually fighting.

愛染挑発に乗春水りそう
Aizen flashstepped towards Shunsui.

で終わり。
The end.

The Special One
01-27-2010, 09:05 AM
Soruce: FLOL
Credit: Sheetz
Verification: Confirmed

818 :ohana ◆IR7jauNn4E :2010/01/27(水) 21:35:57 ID:cpQoKpa7P
藍染を倒すべく、其々の思いを刃に乗せる志士達…!!そして日番谷は…! ?
In order to defeat Aizen, each of the fighters instill their thoughts on their blades...!! As for Hitsugaya...!
空中に止まってる日番谷『…刃に乗ってるのが憎しみなら お前も隊長の器 じゃない…
そう言いてえんだろう』
Hitsugaya stops in midair. "...If you're instilling hatred in your blade you're also not worthy of a captain...is that what you're saying?"
藍染無言
Aizen is silent.
日番谷『そうだ  俺はてめえを斬れさえすれば この戦いで隊長の座を失っても構わね え』
Hitsugaya: "Fine. If I can cut you down in this fight, even if I lose my captain's seat it's alright."
無言で聞いてる享楽
Kyouraku listens in silence.
無言の藍染
Aizen doesn't speak.

日番谷『全力で叩き潰す 鏡花水月を遣う暇など与えねえ 構えろ藍染』
Hitsugaya: "I'll use all my strength to crush you. You won't have time to use your Kyoukasuigetsu. Prepare, Aizen."
無言藍染
Aizen doesn't respond.
日番谷『…構えなくても…  容赦はしねえぞ!!!!』
Hitsugaya "...Even if you don't prepare ...I won't go easy on you!!!!"
ビルの上から見てる銀
Gin watches from atop a building.
銀『…鏡花水月を… …遣う暇など与えない…?
Gin: "...Not give him time...to use Kyoukasuigetsu...?
…あかんわ   君ら完全に藍染隊長の”力”を履き違えてるわ』
...That's no good. You guys have completely mistaken Captain Aizen's strength."
bleach390 BEYOND THE DEATH UNDERSTANDING
一瞬の隙…  見逃すな…ッ!!

突っ込む日番谷『氷竜旋尾!!!』
Hitsugaya charges forward. "Hiryousenbi!!!"
交わす藍染
Aizen dodges
日番谷『氷竜旋尾 絶空!!!』
Hitsugaya: "Hiryousenbi Cutting sky!!"
かわそうと~~~
Aizen tries to dodge...
狛村『天譴』 ラブ『天狗丸』
Komamura: "Tenken!" Love: "Tengumaru!"
止める藍染
Aizen stops.
狛村『許せ 日番谷隊長!手出しするぞ!!』
Komamura: "Beg your pardon for interfering, Captain Hitsugaya !!"
日番谷『好きにしろ 元々一対一に拘るつもりはねえ』
Hitsugaya: "Do as you wish. From the start I hadn't intended it to be one on one."
藍染『…力で叩けば私を潰せると思ったか? 甘いな
Aizen: "...You thought to use your strength to crush me? You're too optimistic.
…いや恐らくは元来”力”という言葉の認識そのものが 君たちと私では異なっているの だ』
...No, perhaps there's a difference between what you and I refer to as "strength."
藍染『教えよう ”力”というのは』
Aizen: "I'll show you what "strength" is."
藍染刀を上から下に~~~
Aizenraises his sword and swings it down...
藍染『こういうものを言うのだ』
Aizen: "This is what I'm talking about."
狛村『黒縄天譴明王!!!』
Komamura "Kuronawa Tenken Myoou!!!"
明王ごと斬られる狛村
Both Myoou and Komamura are cut down.
藍染すぐ狛村の横に行き、バッサリ斬る
Aizen immediately goes to Komamura's side and cuts him down resolutely.

その後ろから、ラブ、ローズ
Love and Rose come from behind.
ローズ鞭で~~ 鞭を掴む藍染
Rose uses his whip, but Aizen catches it.
銀『そうや 藍染隊長が怖いんわ 鏡花水月を遣えるからやない
Gin: "That's right. Captain Aizen is terrifying. Not because he can use Kyoukasuigetsu.
鏡花水月は恐ろしい能力やけど それ一つやったら殺されても従ん奴は山ほ どおる
Kyoukasuigetsu is a frightening ability, but if that were all there are many who could kill him.
あのデタラメなエスパーダが それぞれの思惑あれど一つの集団として形を 成し得たんわ
ただひとつ 強いからや』
ローズ斬られる
Rose is cut down.

銀『藍染隊長の全ての能力が他の誰とも掛け離れてるからや
Gin: "All of Captain Aizen's abilities are quite different from everyone else's."
”鏡花水月に用心する”? あかん不用心や
"Beware of his Kyoukasuigetsu? A useless precaution."


Continue...

Basically Aizen has his way with the captains... And Gin tells us what we know already...

Dagoro
01-27-2010, 09:12 AM
Aizen is freaking invincible, what else is new ???

TheThinker
01-27-2010, 09:57 AM
so pretty much right now i would rather read one piece than bleach

Dagoro
01-27-2010, 11:01 AM
so pretty much right now i would rather read one piece than bleach

Lol right now ???

One Piece had been epic for 572 chapters straight.

Gakure
01-27-2010, 11:01 AM
^ I am on ur side right now.

freedom07
01-27-2010, 11:44 AM
lol so aizen is now ridiculous even without his shikai...random base strength can take down bankais

i think kubos gonna have a hard time thinking of ways to kill of aizen at this stage

or he will do it in a way that pisses all of us off...

aizens not even put on a mask or used bankai yet and hes destroying them all...ichigo literally has nothing on aizen...ichigos greatest strength was his hollow power putting him ahead of other captains but now its just silly

i wont be surprised if aizen reveals a level beyong bankai

the_bargain
01-27-2010, 12:00 PM
so pretty much right now i would rather read one piece than bleach

OP is way better than bleach from the start. Bleach had promise but never delivered

Myth
01-27-2010, 03:10 PM
Im glad Gin says kyoka suigetsu isn't what makes him terrifying, Aizen shit stomps 4 captains with a few swings and stops and catches their shikai bankai with his hand...

BEST FUCKNG VILLAIN EVER..LOL

Konnaha_yellow_flash
01-27-2010, 03:20 PM
Im glad Gin says kyoka suigetsu isn't what makes him terrifying, Aizen shit stomps 4 captains with a few swings and stops and catches their shikai bankai with his hand...

BEST FUCKNG VILLAIN EVER..LOL

To be fair Aizen is just Nuraku from Inuyasha as a shinigami that was haxed out from the beginning.

The Special One
01-27-2010, 03:54 PM
.lol Nuraku... I hated that guy. First he's strong as hell... Then the main cast gets stronger and finally aboutz to kill (but all of a sudden) poof!

"Oh yeah, imma restructure my body every time I get nearly killed. The next time I'd be stronger than ever."

^That happened every time... like OMG when will this cycle of madness end? But Nuraku had flaws though, as he was drawn into a corner and needed to get stronger during said periods. He also was kind of weak during a particular day a month (though he could control his day [unlike other half-breeds], which was really hogwash)...

Aizen never seemed beatable at any give point... And he never had any kind of weakness. So his character is a bit unreasonable...

Konnaha_yellow_flash
01-27-2010, 04:02 PM
.lol Nuraku... I hated that guy. First he's strong as hell... Then the main cast gets stronger and finally aboutz to kill (but all of a sudden) poof!

"Oh yeah, imma restructure my body every time I get nearly killed. The next time I'd be stronger than ever."

^That happened every time... like OMG when will this cycle of madness end? But Nuraku had flaws though, as he was drawn into a corner and needed to get stronger during said periods. He also was kind of weak during a particular day a month (though he could control his day [unlike other half-breeds], which was really hogwash)...

Aizen never seemed beatable at any give point... And he never had any kind of weakness. So his character is a bit unreasonable...

Thats why I refered to Aizen as nuraku, but haxxed out from the very beginning. Aizen like nuraku just wont freaking die, use people then dispose of them like trash, is the main villan through out the entire series as opposed to a single arc and they both (as its looking now) gain demon/hollow powers to increase theyre already huge power and create or side with demons/hollow as to do his dirty work for them despite theyre obvious strength.

Myth
01-27-2010, 04:34 PM
Im putting my money that Aizen won't be killed off he'll be sealed and thrown into hell or some shit.. he's doing all of this without bankai or hollow powers he can't be killed by anyone it will be to unrelastic of a death and i doubt kubo will fuck his manga up more like that..


the same shit that happened to Kouga will happen to aizen though in a much much more difficult way... But kubo is full of surprise so maybe aizen will die we'll see..

Duo
02-01-2010, 05:41 PM
Aizen's character makes me cry. I'm wondering why Gin isn't fighting and everyone is just after Aizen. I mean at some point Gin is going to get bored....

woody_3162
02-01-2010, 06:07 PM
Im putting my money that Aizen won't be killed off he'll be sealed and thrown into hell or some shit.. he's doing all of this without bankai or hollow powers he can't be killed by anyone it will be to unrelastic of a death and i doubt kubo will fuck his manga up more like that..


the same shit that happened to Kouga will happen to aizen though in a much much more difficult way... But kubo is full of surprise so maybe aizen will die we'll see..

unfortunatly kubo IS always full of surprisesbut for a while now they've not really live up to expectations.

i mean what are the possible ways to end this arc?

1. ichigo finds the opening and takes him down in one hit. (not good)

2, ichigo starts battling him par on par and eventually they both go hollow and ichigo defeats him. (hard to see how this can look good based on the las few chapters and how aizen has already outclassed him in speed)

3. They finally find a weakness to either aizen or his kyoka suigetsu which gives ichigo an edge. (again hard to see considering how aizens character has been shown).

4. Ichigo gets defeated and urahara steps in and takes aizen down. (not likely but i would like to see urahara fight aizen.)

5. Aizen can't be beaten and is undefeatable...however with Ichigo at his level along with the power and experience of yama, unohona and kyoraku along with their bankai's he can't go any further i.e. its a stalemate so he goes back to hueco mundo as the king (since the old king is now dead) to plot his next scheme. (acceptable as long as kubo makes the fights good.)

obviously theres more possibilities but i think these are the main ones!

IAmCoNfUsEd
02-01-2010, 09:35 PM
eh i just want to say ichigos hollow kicks aizens ass. i am tired of aizen he is like blah blah blah i am smart i put a shield up so minuscule that covers an attack from a bankai, blah blah blah more bullshit. he needs to die. and he is going to die from his own ignorance. he is going to overpower himself with his own powers, his hollow form is going to eat his ass.

Myth
02-02-2010, 12:07 AM
eh i just want to say ichigos hollow kicks aizens ass. i am tired of aizen he is like blah blah blah i am smart i put a shield up so minuscule that covers an attack from a bankai, blah blah blah more bullshit. he needs to die. and he is going to die from his own ignorance. he is going to overpower himself with his own powers, his hollow form is going to eat his ass.

100 bucks says that his hollow would fail as well... aizen right now is fighting without his zanpakto's power just str8 skill... ichigo's hollow would fail as well..

THOUGH it'd do better then ichigo and the rest of the fail cast.

IAmCoNfUsEd
02-02-2010, 10:27 PM
^ i am hoping that will not happen. having his hollow fail.
i want something interesting to actually happen i want ichigo for once switch places with his hollow for a certain duration.he either takes aizen out or aizen is like oh interesting Gin, lets just go straight to the king. and then soul society and everyone else is left to fight off hollow ichigo(although its not ichigo) and have trouble fighting him, they are losing just like they were against aizen.
during this whole time he is stuck in that dimension inside him and starts trying to figure out things and trains i guess.

but eh none of that shit will ever happen

ask me anything
02-03-2010, 12:05 AM
I want ichigo to go all out and get his ass kicked in hollow mode. Then when aizens about to deliver the death blow to ichigo his father shows up, blocks the attack, and releases a spiritual pressure equal to hollow ichigo's. Ichigo passes out from his woudns. Aizen gets a strange look on his face (like he's a little worried) and says:

Aizen: Impossible, you can't have recovered this much spiritual energy already.

Isshin: What's this? You of all people saying something is impossible. That's not like you aizen. Although that's the same thing you said the last time we fought(grins).

Gin: Aizen-sama who is this guy?

Aizen: My best friend. :)

Everyone: SHOCKED!!!

Isshin: hahaha you still calling me a friend. That's not normally what you would call someone you tried to kill.

Aizen: had I been serious you would be dead now!!

Isshin: (puts his hand on his sword) I wonder about that.

Aizen: Gin kill him!!!

(Gin stabs him with his shikai. Isshin deflects it with his bare hands. Suddenly he shunpo's directly in front of gin. He pulls his sword out of the hilt thrusts it into gins stomach hard enough for him to spit up blood. Gin goes flying backwards and aizen grabs him with 1 hand.)

Aizen: It's just as it seems. You really have gained back all your strength. But How? It should have taken another 2 decades.

Isshin: (smirks) You know an all knowing "god" shouldn't have to ask us mortals questions(aizens annoyed). I have to thank ichigo for my recovery. His excess spirit energy has a way energizing those around him.

Aizen: So that's how it was, hmmm. (smiling) oh, well not like it matters anyway. I'll just beat you again.

[going to skip the details] (they start to fight. Aizen get's the upper hand. Isshin has a ability/shikai that protects/immunizes him from aizens sword. Even still aizen pure power is too much for isshin. Any way let's skip to the end)

Aizen: So it ends here. You gotten a lot stronger then last time. I'll commend you for that.

Ichigo: (conscious again and listening, but still has his eyes closed unable to move much.)

Isshin: (Heavily wounded) Your damn right I got stronger. How else could I have avenged my beloved wife.

Aizen: (sneering at isshin) Oh that's right a hollow did kill your wife didn't it.

Isshin: Don't act like I don't know. It was you who manipulated him to attack her. Even though I was defeated and my powers were gone that wasn't enough for you, was it.

(ichigo shocked and angry)

Aizen: hahaha, your right. I've made sure you suffered the in the most agonizing ways. I told that hollow if he killed her I would give him powers, and I made ichigo think it was his fault because the hollow wanted his powers.

Ichigo: (Seriously pissed. He opens his eyes and stands up shakily). Why?! Why would you do all that!!

Aizen: Because he did the unforgivable!! (opens his robe a little to show a large scar over his chest area)He dared to raise his hand against god!!!

Isshin: Ichigo it must be a shock for you to find out I'm a former shinigami.

Ichigo: nah, I've known for a while now.

Isshin: Huh?

Ichigo: every since ishida taught me shinigami have different colored spirit threads, I've known you were a shinigami. I figured you didn't want to tell me for a reason.

Isshin: Oh, so that's how it is. Those damn quincy's have way of screwing things up. (thinking to self "yep that ishida is just like his father")

Ichigo: anyway this is no time for chit chat. We got a fight to win.

Isshin: ichigo!! stay back this is my fight.

Ichigo: wrong pops. You weren't the only one to loose mom you know.

Isshin: then I'll fight on your behalf to.

Ichigo: Fine, then I'll fight in behalf of yuzu and karin.

(both smile at one another)



Next time: The Dubious Duo


Note: not a serious prediction in case anyone thought it was. Just a "what should happen if kubo wasn't a fucking idiot and wanted this manga to kick ass" suggestion:cool: Also it's late and I'm not even seeing straight so just read and enjoy

IAmCoNfUsEd
02-03-2010, 12:08 AM
^well that sounds better than my idea, and that would put his dad actually to work ever since they showed him in the shinigami robe.

Myth
02-03-2010, 08:27 AM
Confirmed spoiler is out..

Aizen shits on a few more Shunsui does something with a dhadow, then Toshiro the loser attacks aizen from behind i think it says he "stabbed" him...

Oh and Gin vs Unohana will happen FINALLYYYYYYYY...

I hope Kubo doesn't fag this fight and let her win although she is very strong as hyped Gin was considered a prodigy, and the fact that to many bad guys are dead would suck..

oh yeah unohana right away grabs the failed captains and starts to heal em tells gin's vice to attend to them while she takes over...

This is what i think happens Toshiro stabs aizen and fails he then gets cut down again or killed..

then Shunsui and Shinji take over 2 on 1 like it should be, and Gin fights unohana.

freedom07
02-03-2010, 12:01 PM
the spoiler i read says aizen got cut by shunsui and then stabbed by hitsu and then falls

hmmm its either too obvious for kyoka suigetsu or that kubo royally screwed up

IAmCoNfUsEd
02-03-2010, 01:12 PM
^ i want unohana to win, i want to see a fucking female own some people and Gin would be perfect. she will be like "whose your mama". and have gin open his eyes and and actually have him frowning.

Myth
02-03-2010, 03:15 PM
yeah that unohana part was added its fake...

Yeah aizen starts to shit on shinigami then hitsugaya stabs his ass thanks to shunsui using his shadow thing like he did with stark, aizen has a "shocked" look then smiles and taunts toshiro only tos ee shinji smiling using sakanade aizen says with a shcoked face "damn reversed" and is stabbed in the front by toshiro with a "shocked" face..

guess thats it aizen is done oh well:)

end sarcasm/

Konnaha_yellow_flash
02-03-2010, 04:07 PM
Aizens been running around like his shit doesnt stink for about 300 chapters so this sustains me.

T9F
02-03-2010, 09:32 PM
so next chapter we'll find out aizen didn't REALLY get stabbed and is injured. then that cycle will repeat for about 3 more chapters.

also, lol'd at naruto rip off technique that soi fon does.

gamatoyo
02-03-2010, 09:48 PM
Aizen got stabbed to death by Ichigo in that ultimate vizard form (I don't know the term, its has 2 horns and a tail).

Then everybody realised the body is not Aizen (the same trick to fake his own death).

The real Aizen, watching for afar, realised there is another ultimate vizard form he needs to reach, goes back to huenco mundo to do his research.

Myth
02-03-2010, 09:56 PM
I would honestly laugh it of and same aizen is gonna make a fool of them again...

but the only attack i really think hit him was shunsui's though its not a fatal attack since stark didn't die from it...

or maybe they all hit kyoka suigetsu cause its OC for aizen to look like that with his mouth open and take hits from all over lol... but if he did get hit im sure only shunsui did it...

palmereap
02-03-2010, 10:56 PM
The one thing I'm still waiting for is Ichigo's hollow to show up....He still hasn't showed up show ichigo could control his true power.....said the last time they fought in the story

woody_3162
02-06-2010, 12:54 PM
i hope everyone who thinks aizen didnt get hit is Wrong!

this actually seems an ok way for Kubo to get out of the mess he's made for himself.

...i mean ok aizen just got hit hard, so he goes into hollow mode to heal himself, and talkst crap about how he was taking them too lightly...or something like he might actually have to pay attention in this fight.

and hopefully the rest of the fight is written well.

anyway about the actual chapter, kyoka suigetsu wasn't released until the very end (IF IT WAS RELEASED AT ALL).

why? simply because why the hell would aizen THINK oh shit if it was?!!

so i kinda agree with myth
the shadow attack definitly hit,
and hitsugaya's attack...well thats what is uncertain

either it hit
either aizen used his illusion (there's nothing to say that its effects cant work whilst frozen in the ice)
or he did some goddess of flash type shunpo or even sonido.

personally i hope it really hit...we do not need to keep seeing how aizen is always one step ahead...as good as that is to watch it's going to ruin the ending eventually.

NeoKakarott023
02-08-2010, 09:14 PM
Aizen didn't get hit, unfortunately its the makeup of the manga. This is another false fail start by SS Capts.

Hornster
02-09-2010, 02:23 PM
looks like hitsu stabbed hinamori :3
dunno if true - source is /a/, but who cares?

愛染のニッコリ
Aizen grinned.
愛染 : ていない場合は、私はあなたに、日番谷冬与えたスラッシュを覚えています
か?
Aizen: Don’t you remember the slash I inflicted on you, Hitsugaya-kun?
愛染 : のようにあなたの教訓を確認していないように見える
Aizen: It seems like it did not make you learn your lesson.
日番谷冬 : ‘咲く氷スイレン’
Hitsugaya: “Blooming ice waterlily”
愛染の体の花によって具体化された形の氷
Aizen’s body was embodied by flower-shaped ice.
愛染 : …もし物理的な痛みの場合は、動作しませんでした多分これは、日番谷冬を

Aizen: …if physical pain did not work on you, this should do, Hitsugaya-kun.
愛染の番谷冬獅郎、上から話していた
Aizen was talking from above Hitsugaya.
みんなびっくりした
Everyone was startled.
氷の中に愛染蜃気楼雛森のになる
The Aizen mirage inside the ice becomes Hinamori.
日番谷冬 : いいえ
Hitsugaya: No…
雛森 : シロちゃん…
Hinamori: Shiro-kun…

Hitsugaya: This is illusion, Hinamori, right?
The ice flower broke… Hinamori’s body disappeared with the shattering hails.
日番谷冬のひざまずいたと痛みの悲鳴
Hitsugaya knelt and screamed in pain.
愛染日番谷冬に彼の戦闘能力を補完する彼の完全な催眠術講義
Aizen lectured on how his complete hypnosis complemented his combat skills to Hitsugaya.
砕蜂の愛染に向けて充電
Soi Fon charged towards Aizen.
愛染を簡単に彼女を減らした。彼女の雀蜂の侵入2
Aizen cut her down with ease. Her suzumebachi broke into two.
上記、春水彼の剣を積み上げ
From above, Shunsui stacked his swords one behind the other.
前に一渦巻く風となり、愛染に飛ん
The one in front became a whirly wind and flew down to Aizen.
愛染 : ‘破道93, 七回転岩’
Aizen: “Hado 93, Seven Revolving Boulders”
春水の岩の塊に押しつぶされた
Shunsui was crushed by masses of rock.
だー : !
Ichigo: !
空グーグー鳴る
The sky rumbles.
卯ノ花とだーのは、空では、黒の穴から降りてきた2つの数字を見上げた
Unohana and Ichigo looked up to the two figures that came down from the black hole in the sky.
で終わり。
The end.

Myth
02-09-2010, 02:52 PM
Aizen is the fucking mannnnnnnn yessssss...

Hado 93 a new one haha, hinamori is dead that's pretty ruthless of aizen... and he shits on the others even shunsui to bad... 2 figures that are coming from the black hole are most likely kenpachi and byakuya.

Maybe at least those 2 can fight good or maybe its someone else.

IAmCoNfUsEd
02-09-2010, 03:07 PM
*sigh* predictable from aizen..at least naruto has some twists..oh sorry i think they renamed the manga sasuke..

it would be cool if grim and Ulq come out and be like bitches we are back

Myth
02-09-2010, 03:33 PM
*sigh* predictable from aizen..at least naruto has some twists..oh sorry i think they renamed the manga sasuke..

it would be cool if grim and Ulq come out and be like bitches we are back

Kid you're buggin bleach is actually starting to get interesting again, naruto this week is complete crap and shits happening that's not even plot related wtf is karin doing in the exams when her village was long extinct and we never saw her in the exam EVEN THOUGH SASUKE AND NARUTO WERE BOTH SHOWN ON PANEL THE ENTIRE TIME...

And no sakura is getting wet for him rofll this shits retarded...

at least we get some action this bleach chapter a good person finally kicks the bucket by another good person lol, and next week we may see 2 new faces in bleach or maybe kisuke and yorichi or ishhin even..

IAmCoNfUsEd
02-09-2010, 03:40 PM
its predictable that aizen wouldnt have gotten sliced if he were to actually get sliced that would be interesting. and that girl is no1, one of the captains need to die not some dumb ass girl. If Hit. And soi fon dies that would be interesting.

^ i dont think it would be either of them because why wouldnt they just show up normally since they are in the same town no?

Myth
02-09-2010, 07:16 PM
the part about the black hole is fake a wrong trans... everything else is real.

redexploit
02-09-2010, 08:31 PM
OMG FUCKING YESSS!!!!

AIZEN is a G. HE JUST KILLED HINAMORI!!! YES!!! Fucking squirt deserved that shit. He was being so cocky and stupid. He finally got what was coming to him. Acting all tough when he is really a punk bitch. I would love for him to get offed too, but obviously that would never happen because he is too much of a fan-magnet.

The only thing I'm not happy with is Shunsui getting taken out so easily. Obviously we don't know the extent of his injuries. It could be comparable to when he took a point blank stark zero and laughed it off. However, a 90+ kido is no joke, especially when coming from Aizen. I'll be pissed if we find out that Shunsui is disabled without having used his Ban Kai. I would 100% interpret that as a cop-out on Kubo's part, being a bitch and being either uncreative to come up with another Ban Kai or being too pussy to show us it.


I was starting to get SOO tired of good guys not dying. Is Aizen really the only bad guy that can slice a bitch?? He deserves a metal for shutting her up aka slicing her zanpaktou. I know Gin is capable of it too. I think he should off Soi-Fon next.

Myth
02-09-2010, 09:05 PM
we don't know for sure if shunsui is down it seems Ohana said the black hole part and the hado part are not in there though its not really clear.

all we know for 100% is that aizen does off all of them though nobody really knows how spoiler is to shaky still. but the basic part is aizen is cleaning house and its about time... sadly hitsugaya can never be killed off he has the biggest fan base bigger then even the main character lol..

NeoKakarott023
02-09-2010, 10:11 PM
Like I said, Aizen wasn't hit, and started dishin tha bizness. Not shocking, or inventive at all. Aizen has at least 2 more weeks of destruction before Ichigo grows a set.