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Black Rose
05-05-2005, 08:27 AM
I am doing a survey for school on people's views on what happens after death. Like, do you think you go to heaven/hell? Reicarnated? Just curious, it's for my report and i have to have others views on it. I put this in the deabte section because I think this would also make a good debate. ^_^
Anyone want to help me out on it? :)
DaRk_DaNTe
05-05-2005, 08:32 AM
You'll know when you die..
Sant0ryu
05-05-2005, 08:41 AM
umm i believe that there is life after death, meaning u can get reincarnated, but thas just me. and if u commit suicide, the Higher Power (or God of u want) will see it that u didnt want to be a human which is why u commited suicide, and ull come back as an animal
Swtvi3tboi08
05-05-2005, 09:38 AM
im catholic so i believe there is life after death. u could be in heaven or hell or purgitory.
Paean
05-05-2005, 11:19 AM
I believe there is life after death. :)
If there weren't, then this life is meaningless.
yami_youkai
05-05-2005, 11:36 AM
Hmmm... For my religion, there is life after death. Like what Sant0ryu and Swtvi3tboi08 said.. It's probably heaven or hell.. And there's something called "the judgement day"
colini
05-05-2005, 11:41 AM
I believe in life after death.
Dunno about heaven and hell, but you go somewhere when your dead.
And I believe in reincarnation too..
Kiechi
05-05-2005, 12:50 PM
I believe there is life after death. :)
If there weren't, then this life is meaningless.
I don't comply, please expand on your notion. Why does it cause this life to be meaningless?
kenokuvato
05-05-2005, 06:30 PM
I'd say yea, to a spiritual life, but not a life like reincarnation. This idea comes from my beliefs in the BIBLE. In my opinion, I'd say yes.
Peregrin
05-05-2005, 06:40 PM
Although I'm Catholic, I question the possibility of heaven. The prospect of existing until the end of time scares me greatly. I prefer the concept of reincarnation. I think that we are all reincarnated as a different being whose personality is determined by the occurences in our previous life. It sounds like the most logical and comfortable of the options.
corbenk
05-05-2005, 07:06 PM
To answer this we must first define what life is:
The interval of time between birth and death
Among others, this seemed the most accurate. Now must define death:
The act of dying; termination of life.
So if death is the termination of life then, no, it is biologicly impossible to have life after death.
Though that is a litteral term itmakes sence.
k-strife
05-05-2005, 11:37 PM
To answer this we must first define what life is:
The interval of time between birth and death
Among others, this seemed the most accurate. Now must define death:
The act of dying; termination of life.
So if death is the termination of life then, no, it is biologicly impossible to have life after death.
Though that is a litteral term itmakes sence.
Yes that does make sense if you are referring to the current state of life, but I think what he is talking about is an "after-life".
So in that sense, is there an after-life?? That question we may never really know. If there is, you will know, if there isn't, you will never know.
Do I believe in an after-life?? Yes i do.
Peregrin
05-07-2005, 09:02 PM
When you think about it, reincarnation isn't technically an afterlife. It's its own thing. Also, doesn't life after death sound oxymoronic? If heaven exists, then life is just a test to get into it. But in that sense, one should just worry about pleasing whoever's in charge there (God in most religions). If that's the case, why doesn't anyone try doing that? Only priests 'n' such do, and they don't always do it right. I'm confusing myself now...
heartthrob_god
05-07-2005, 11:55 PM
I am a Christian and I do believe there is life after death.... besides I've seen ghosts
Peregrin
05-08-2005, 12:47 AM
*cough* ghosts? Ghosts are intangible ideas that cannot be represented by matter. Besides, if you saw a ghost, how would that be proof of an afterlife? It doesn't necessarily mean that it was a human. If ghosts exist, they aren't necessarily dead people. Ghost can mean many different things.
heartthrob_god
05-08-2005, 12:59 AM
of course!, if ghosts were matter, then, you should be able to touch them (but no!!)...
since i've seen a lot of ghosts (some of them were my relatives and neighbors), I can tell that your soul goes to some other dimension and there your soul lives there.... since I can see ghosts.. that means souls can travel to the "living" world and possibly go to a living body
YoruWoNukeru
05-08-2005, 04:13 PM
I'll have to say yes, but I don't believe in ghosts. I just think there's actually a heaven and a hell.
Just my opinion. ^_^
Peregrin
05-09-2005, 07:53 PM
Hmm... the ghost theory sounds similar to the theories presented in the Bleach manga... do you see them in dreams? I can't believe that you see them in full conciousness...
Swtvi3tboi08
05-09-2005, 07:55 PM
i dont think they exist at all. i believe theres other beings like god but not ghost.
heartthrob_god
05-09-2005, 09:18 PM
it's really hard to believe that ghosts are existing especially if you haven't seen one... and I can't also give some proof coz even if I try to video them... it's just that they won't still appear in the video!!!!!
ShadowPhoenix
05-10-2005, 07:26 AM
I think at the end of the day it comes down 2 what u believe. Nobody really knows wat happens when u die. mainly because u cant really find out, its not as if sumone could come back and tell u :p
Its more opinion and beliefs then anythin else in my opinion...there is no real fact or proof behind it, but then again there is nothin 2 say that there isnt life after death so ya know u could debate for ever lol
corbenk
05-10-2005, 09:31 AM
I think at the end of the day it comes down 2 what u believe. Nobody really knows wat happens when u die. mainly because u cant really find out, its not as if sumone could come back and tell u :p
Its more opinion and beliefs then anythin else in my opinion...there is no real fact or proof behind it, but then again there is nothin 2 say that there isnt life after death so ya know u could debate for ever lol
Good work. That was the only thought out logical reply in this topic. Problem is, even though it is all opinion the creator of this thread wants to know what you think.
I belive in an after life, I don't belive in hell and I am not part of any religion. I belive that if weare sorry for our sins and ready to pass on we will be cleansed and passon. If weare not sorry or not ready we will be reborn. I think this earth is hell.
the_fat_alchemist
05-10-2005, 11:05 AM
I am doing a survey for school on people's views on what happens after death. Like, do you think you go to heaven/hell? Reicarnated? Just curious, it's for my report and i have to have others views on it. I put this in the deabte section because I think this would also make a good debate. ^_^
Anyone want to help me out on it? :)'
how about you die and you tell us lol:D
Being Christian...yes I do believe that there is something after this life. Reincarnation is very interesting. I wonder if people are reincarnated?
And I LIVE next to a haunted house, so I believe in ghosts. You wouldn't believe some of the strange crap that people see over there. Usually a woman in a white 30's style dress. I saw an outline of something one night, but didn't quite SEE the ghost.
Peregrin
05-11-2005, 12:54 AM
Hmm... wouldn't it be possible that because you expect the house to be haunted, you think you see ghosts? Just like you don't feel alone if you think you're not alone... The mind does things like that.
yami_youkai
05-11-2005, 01:20 AM
hmmm... ghosts?? i dunno... you guys won't believe me tho but i've seen them before.. dun wan to anymore..!! scary~
Kamatari
05-12-2005, 09:15 AM
mind if i join? oh well ill still say anyway~ i do think ghosts exists, cos most of my relatives had their own experience b4, while me? oh well, jus see a lot of looming shadows bhind me(not that i wanna see them)
i dunno, i guess its going to be a form of transition one way or the other, either in the form of conservation of mass (or is it energy?) or something more spiritual
kakashi5
05-12-2005, 09:54 AM
i hope not! 21 years has been trouble enough :p
Dizzykilla
05-12-2005, 11:59 AM
I hope so....i mean i would like to think there is but no one really knows unless there dead and when ur dead (over a long period of time not brout back right away) u cant come back to life so.....know one of this world would no.....
When you think about it, reincarnation isn't technically an afterlife. It's its own thing. Also, doesn't life after death sound oxymoronic? If heaven exists, then life is just a test to get into it. But in that sense, one should just worry about pleasing whoever's in charge there (God in most religions). If that's the case, why doesn't anyone try doing that? Only priests 'n' such do, and they don't always do it right. I'm confusing myself now...
More people serve God than you would know, not just priests. If you don't believe in the most basic portion of Catholicism, then what parts of it do you believe?
Oops, forgot to give my own opinion. I believe in God, that Jesus Christ died for our sins that we could be forgiven of our sins to live eternally with God in Heaven. However, if we refuse God's mercy, we live enternally in Hell. I don't believe in reincarnation, I don't believe in death as the ultimatum.
Peregrin
05-12-2005, 06:45 PM
Wellll.... I believe in the morals and lessons, but I'm not sure what to think of the stories and the unexplainable aspects of Catholicism... I try to take in all the different possibilities and choose the one that sounds the most logical and appealing. The idea of heaven, while great, also means that you have to live forever. The prospect of living until the end of time scares me.
Peregrin
05-13-2005, 12:41 AM
Well... when I think about living forever, I get this empty, almost botomless feeling inside of me. It just bothers me to think that there is no end, no rest. With reincarnation, you are born as a different entity, and you do not remain the same for eternity. That's what I like about that idea. Although if heaven lets you experience your lifelong dreams...
kakashi5
05-13-2005, 06:38 AM
Why does it scare you?
have you not seen highlander! lol
Kamatari
05-13-2005, 09:49 AM
??? don get wat ure trying to say
kakashi5
05-13-2005, 10:23 AM
you've not seen highlander then
seiyuuki
05-15-2005, 06:40 PM
This quesion has driven so many into suicide, debating in their own mind to the point were they can't take it any more or want to find out!
I pesonally dont bother thinking about it, gets depressing...
For me, thinking about this brings me feelings exactly the opposite of depressing. I look forward to spending eternity serving God and living in a perfect world with no pain and no death.
mizu_tenshi
05-18-2005, 04:26 AM
i do believe in life after death.. reincarnation and spirits... and i also believe in reaping what you sow.. erm.. there's this sayin wich goes.. if you plant bad seeds in your this life/previous life.. you will get bad retribution in this life/next life... but all these are buddhists sayin arent they?(^^,)
swinburne188
05-19-2005, 09:28 PM
here's another of my stupid theory, when we died, then the body is cremated or burried or mummified or whatever have you. after years later, a century or two, would people still remember where your body or ashes is. i believed once we died, we become part of this world, we've become a dead star. i believe the world would never end, even if the earth explodes and becomes little pieces in the galaxy, there would still another galaxy and another life is just beginning. we've become part of what's big, what's outside of our imagination. after saying that confusing theory of mine, i believe there's life after death.
kakashi5
05-20-2005, 06:59 AM
we are all made of stars
Tabris
05-22-2005, 05:20 PM
"To live only to end was to depressing so we were made with this, to live JUST to die."
corbenk
05-22-2005, 05:55 PM
People always seem to ponder these type of questions, other then trying to justgain knowledge, why bother? I belive if we doever findout what happenes after death, or if there is a god or anything of the sort, that there would be compleate anarchy. To find answers to these questions and more would be terrifing. I don't worry too much about these matters.
Kietsu-Kun
05-22-2005, 06:06 PM
It is inevitable, whether you like it or not. The destruction of the earth will come, and when that day arrives we will all be eradicated from gaia. Oh well, live life long and well.
corbenk
05-22-2005, 07:14 PM
Well technically the destruction of earth can be your own death, I mean the only thing you can prove exsists is well.... Yourself.
kakashi_00x000
05-23-2005, 02:31 AM
To simply answer the question, I say yes.
It is inevitable, whether you like it or not. The destruction of the earth will come, and when that day arrives we will all be eradicated from gaia. Oh well, live life long and well.
But in what way will the Earth's destruction come? Naturally or because of human stupidity? Or perhaps God's plan for the Earth will end, and His new Heaven and Earth will be formed. My belief is simple: those who accept Christ as the saviour of their lives and the sacrifice for their sins, live with God eternally.
Typhoon
06-04-2005, 08:47 PM
There are many ways the Earth can end. One of the most definite way is the end of the sun. The sun is basically burning fuel and one day it would burn out ending all life on Earth. Or maybe a gigantic asteroid comes and no one could stop it from crashing.
I kinda believe in reincarnation. I believe that the energy from life gets recycled and reforms into a new life. Reincarnation is the only theory in the world that has evidence support. My high school teacher told me that once. There were several cases in where really young children could remember things from their past life (e.g. names of relatives and friends, old home address, place of work, etc.)
Dizzykilla
06-04-2005, 08:58 PM
i want to believe there is.....................am i 100percent sure........nope but i have some faith that there is a haven..........
flareofdragon
06-04-2005, 09:47 PM
There are many ways the Earth can end. One of the most definite way is the end of the sun. The sun is basically burning fuel and one day it would burn out ending all life on Earth. Or maybe a gigantic asteroid comes and no one could stop it from crashing.
I kinda believe in reincarnation. I believe that the energy from life gets recycled and reforms into a new life. Reincarnation is the only theory in the world that has evidence support. My high school teacher told me that once. There were several cases in where really young children could remember things from their past life (e.g. names of relatives and friends, old home address, place of work, etc.)
Yeah, there was this girl who went into a dream and she was calling people's name, doing the same activities a person did before she died. The parents called the people who were named, they came over and listened, the girl got everything right.
Sant0ryu
06-04-2005, 09:50 PM
i also believe in reincarnation
if u kill urself: ull come back as an animal cuz u obviously weren't happy as a human
if u were good: u come back with a good life
if u raped someone: u come back as the sex that u raped
if u were bad: u wont come back at all
Typhoon
06-04-2005, 09:54 PM
i also believe in reincarnation
if u kill urself: ull come back as an animal cuz u obviously weren't happy as a human
if u were good: u come back with a good life
if u raped someone: u come back as the sex that u raped
if u were bad: u wont come back at all
That's a pretty good theory! It certainly sounds fair and reasonable!
flareofdragon
06-04-2005, 09:55 PM
if u were bad: u wont come back at all
It's interesting you say that. Hinduism/Buddhism believes that you have to achieve Nirvana (or search for the eternal truth and find it) to get out of the reincarnation cycle.
Sant0ryu
06-04-2005, 10:26 PM
^^, im technically half buddhist, but i really dont see how u can be
Typhoon
06-04-2005, 10:33 PM
Well, I'm kinda half buddhist too! And I guess I understand how you could be half buddhist, since I don't follow and believe in the religion completely.
Sant0ryu
06-04-2005, 10:36 PM
haha! dude, ur like my twin XD
yea, i do eat only vegetarian on certain days, but aside from that, im stuck on wether i should believe in God, or the Buddhist Gods, like u noe Kwan Yin? the merciful goddess?
Typhoon
06-04-2005, 11:08 PM
Oh cool! You ARE like my twin! I worship/pray to them too. So you must believe in like Chinese Buddhism.
Tabris
06-05-2005, 02:28 PM
um witht he whole rencarnaiton thing, if your bad you are demoted, not gone 4 ever, you see the belief actually says that there is a pool of qouls that is constantly being recyled until you're good enough to go the heaven. So i htink you mixed up a bit, and personaly i would hate to be stuck having my soul recycled onto this imoral disgusting earth over and over again.
Typhoon
06-05-2005, 02:54 PM
The idea of having of having a good next life if you were good in your previous life, is just beliefs of certain religions (e.g. Buddhism and Hinduism). It's not an actual scientific theory, but the general concept of reincarnation is. Where life gets recycled again and again into new lives. As I said in one of my earlier posts before, Reincarnation is the only theory that has evidence support. It's not just some religious belief, it's an educated and reasonable guess. The scientific theory is that there are no general pattern in the reincarnation process. But in, for example, Buddhist teachings, you can only obtain a good next life if you do good in your current life. And if you do bad, you'll have a terrible next life. Part of this belief is to make people do good.
Buddhism focuses on proper moral conducts and teaches people to do good and also teaches people to understand the pain in life. That's why real Buddhism is sometimes not really considered as a religion, but more as a philosophy. the Great Buddha himself is not a god. He is just someone understands life and has escaped the reincarnation cycle and has gained a fully, complete, stress-free life = nirvana.
It might suck to be recylced over and over again, but each time you start a new life, you eventually forget your past life so bascially you're in the cycle without knowing it. And that doesn't really suck cuz you don't know you're recycled. The only way to escape the cycle is by achieving the state of enlightment so that you can go to Nirvana. That's the Buddhist teachings.
flareofdragon
06-05-2005, 03:23 PM
^^, im technically half buddhist, but i really dont see how u can be
Err... How can I not be buddhist again?
Typhoon
06-06-2005, 05:52 AM
What do u mean flareofdragon? Did anyone say you wasn't?
flareofdragon
06-06-2005, 06:47 PM
I thought Sant0ryu was talking to me when he said
"I don't really see how u can be"
Typhoon
06-06-2005, 06:57 PM
I think she was talking to herself. She was asking herself how she can be half-buddhist. That's what I think.
Sant0ryu
06-06-2005, 07:03 PM
lol, yea i was talking about myself XD
flareofdragon
06-06-2005, 07:05 PM
woops, I said he...
sucks.
sorry about the misunderstanding... but yeah, you can be half buddhist. It is a philosophy after all.
Sant0ryu
06-06-2005, 07:21 PM
lol.. everyone thinks im a guy... T-T
do u eat vegetarian on certain days?
kakashi5
06-06-2005, 07:22 PM
i'm a part time apathetic, i'd go full time but i can't be arsed
Sant0ryu
06-06-2005, 07:23 PM
i'm a part time apathetic, i'd go full time but i can't be arsed
enlighten me, whats apathetic?
Typhoon
06-06-2005, 07:33 PM
lol.. everyone thinks im a guy... T-T
do u eat vegetarian on certain days?
It's ok that people think you're a guy. It's just in the beginning. Some people on NL thought I was a girl too...
Before, I wanted to go fully vegetarian and not kill animals, but not anymore. I eat still go vegetarian sometimes, but not in any particualr pattern.
Sant0ryu
06-06-2005, 07:36 PM
lol, yea.. i kinda have a particular pattern.. wierd.. i think every 2nd sunday of the month? im not too sure, cuz i dont notice what my mom cooks i only noe when we go out for vegetarians
victoria
06-06-2005, 11:44 PM
i think religion shudant be used as means of killing people... its just so wrong...
but honestly... i dun believe in life after death (no offence meant please...)
even wen & if i watch drama serials(chinese)/movies that involves conflicts regarding reincarnation or life after death... i still dun believe in them (no offence meant again)
Typhoon
06-07-2005, 08:45 AM
i think religion shudant be used as means of killing people... its just so wrong...
but honestly... i dun believe in life after death (no offence meant please...)
even wen & if i watch drama serials(chinese)/movies that involves conflicts regarding reincarnation or life after death... i still dun believe in them (no offence meant again)
Well, I'm kinda like you in a way. Half of me believes in reincarnation and the other half of me believes that you just die and nothing happens. I believe in science and I don't believe a lot of the other theories of what happens after death, but since I'm half buddhist, I think the theory of reicarnation is ok.
Typhoon
06-07-2005, 10:12 AM
Yeah. That's a good way to live. I don't care about much about religious beliefs anyway. I just go with the flow for most of the time. But I think it's kinda stupid and pointless to see people of different religions fight over issues like this. I mean come on, what's the point, no one knows what will happen.
-Uchiha_Sasuke-
06-13-2005, 12:50 AM
I believe that our soul travels somewhere else and we are born in another world, or maybe this one again, as another living thing, so.. reincarnation. But i must agree with Nara Shikamaru on this topic, i aswell think that whatever we do in this lifetime will not change what happens after death. It shouldn't be something to be worried about, u just gotta accept it.
ratcliff
06-17-2005, 05:40 AM
no one knows....maybe the 1 who goes on 50:50 may said sum things bout it...not sure...but i believe
Tabris
06-17-2005, 08:06 AM
I hope there's life after death. Personaly i believe there is. I believe we were made for eternity, and that's why we feel so empty on earth, and why our bodies age as they do. Our presonality never changes, lots o' old people are stil witty and lively, and i think it's cause our souls were made for eternity, and that's why our souls never decay, just our bodies.
Is this making any sence to you guys?
W/e, i'll just keep going. I also believe that you have a choice, you can spend eternity in darkness, facing your worst fear, and be absolutly alone or you can go to heaven!!!
I don't believe that hell is all fire and brimstone, i believe that it is whatever you fear the most, and complete darkness, and the abbys of utter eternal loneliness.
I find that most peole fear the after life, or death itself. I would to if i was uncertain of where i would go, or what would happen to my soul. But i do knw where i'm goin, and i've dicovered that i'm not afraid to die, and then one day,in the middle of school i realized that i'm willing to die in the place of anyone. Yes, i mean anyone, even hitler, as disgustingly caloused as that sounds, no i don't like him, but i'd still do it, he's still a person.
Yes there is an after life, there must be, if we question it so much, and people always wonder about it. Think about the "4 big questions of life"
1: How did i get here?
2: Where am i going when i die?
3: Who am I?
4: Was i created?
I think i screwed up one of them... oh well, but the point is these are 4 questions that every human has inside of them, since htye were born, if they have the sence of where am i going when i die, not 'If' I'm going when i die, implanted in them, then it seams like there must be one, if we all have thatquestion from the very start....
ok i've talked enough soemone elses turn!
Peregrin
06-17-2005, 09:41 PM
In the end, it all boils down to the question "what is life?" There is no science or religion that can find the answer to that question, much less explain it. The meaning of life, in my opinion, is what you make of it. I think of morals as a way to make yourself feel more at peace. If your life is full of sin, there's the idea of hell to haunt your mind. If you simply live a modest and just life, you won't have that fear.
Tabris
06-23-2005, 10:49 AM
couph life is the free will to schose to love, it is the gift of existance, the chance to live iether in heaven or hell for all eternity, the dress rehearsal for eternity. Our souls were made for eternity, that would be why we feel so empty on earth, we weren't made for time, we were made for timeless infinity.
Tsuna
06-26-2005, 11:16 AM
hmmm....life after death is really based on what one's belief of it. If their religion believes it to be so, most likely they do too. sometimes experiences can cause you to believe in life after death, and i don't mean out-of-body experiences either, though those are also influencing. but, for me, i believe in life after death, however, i do not like to believe that there is a hell. a merciful and just God is what Christians call Jesus, but how can a God truly be both at the same time?
that wasnt meant to be blasphemy...justa simple question on how its possible....and, i'd really not likke to believe that i might be subjected to burning eternally...
Tabris
06-27-2005, 12:41 PM
hmmm....life after death is really based on what one's belief of it. If their religion believes it to be so, most likely they do too. sometimes experiences can cause you to believe in life after death, and i don't mean out-of-body experiences either, though those are also influencing. but, for me, i believe in life after death, however, i do not like to believe that there is a hell. a merciful and just God is what Christians call Jesus, but how can a God truly be both at the same time?
that wasnt meant to be blasphemy...justa simple question on how its possible....and, i'd really not likke to believe that i might be subjected to burning eternally...
He gave us mercy by dieing for us, and then it is our coice to accept that mercy, so event hoguh he is merciful, if we dont' embrase that then hell is where we go, it's not liek he chooses for you to go to hell, it's just the only other place to go, if you didn't accept the invitation to heaven.
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