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uchihamadara
03-07-2009, 03:12 PM
I'm i the only one who thinks Kishi is taking this pain thing a little to far ?
This guy can kill every body looses all his bodies and is still standing. What the fuck? Naruto goes into sage mode has multiple copies and still looses, and on top of that he kills the elder toad and almost kills hinata after he destroyed the village.

Kishi is just taking this pain thing too far and it's getting tiring,
Does anybody else feel exactly like i do?

Mystik
03-07-2009, 03:19 PM
Nope i dont.. Pain is awesome.. loving the chapters.

popion
03-07-2009, 03:25 PM
this fight is awsome
you realy espect that "i win" move works every time ?

Miburo
03-07-2009, 03:33 PM
Yeah, the guy with super legendary ultra god ninja eyes pwning hard is definitely taking shit too far. Good call, man.

Ironclad
03-07-2009, 04:04 PM
That is the point.

Pain in the ass.

SasukeWorldsGreatest
03-07-2009, 04:07 PM
Everything in Naruto up to date builded up for this big fight,it's the biggest plot fight till now,6 tailed,sage mode,wrapped konoha everything and you're saying it's taking too long? :S

Then the question should be,wtf is wrong with you?

Freshgrease
03-07-2009, 04:09 PM
That is the point.

Pain in the ass.It would kill the series for Pain to be a crybaby puss.

Also *doges upcoming plunger jokes*

Ironclad
03-07-2009, 04:18 PM
Notice how this is the first villain that actually is an anti-hero.

if anything, Pain's motives are more understandable as Orochimaru's greedy little need for Sasuke.

Kina
03-07-2009, 04:19 PM
I hope Pain kills everyone and finally ends the manga.

Ironclad
03-07-2009, 04:20 PM
I hope Pain kills everyone and finally ends the manga.

Though it would be a first for a shonen to have such WTF ending....why?

Kina
03-07-2009, 04:21 PM
Naruto is too long and it's getting too off-the-wall. It should end soon and everyone's dreams being crushed would be ironic. Plus I'm a total cynic.

Silverblade
03-07-2009, 04:37 PM
Nah. He's the Akatsuki leader. One of the big bosses you know he runs a fearsome organization that is planning to take over the world. Pain is just ruthless that's all.

He stated that Konoha ninjas killed his parents. Now if you have godly powers and your parents was killed by your neighbors. Then yeah why not be ruthless and destroy your neighbors. He wants his justice.

Miburo
03-07-2009, 04:47 PM
Notice how this is the first villain that actually is an anti-hero.

Nope. Probably because he isn't an antihero.

As far as antagonists with arguably noble motives goes, I think Haku would qualify as the first.

Mystik
03-07-2009, 04:50 PM
Nah. He's the Akatsuki leader. One of the big bosses you know he runs a fearsome organization that is planning to take over the world. Pain is just ruthless that's all.

He stated that Konoha ninjas killed his parents. Now if you have godly powers and your parents was killed by your neighbors. Then yeah why not be ruthless and destroy your neighbors. He wants his justice.

Actually the translation sleepy fans did was wrong.. this is the correct trans of that part..

Pain: I believe it was just like this for me...
Watching my parents die before my eyes, as you've watch Leaf Shinobi die before yours.

Hanz86
03-07-2009, 04:58 PM
Actually the translation sleepy fans did was wrong.. this is the correct trans of that part..

Pain: I believe it was just like this for me...
Watching my parents die before my eyes, as you've watch Leaf Shinobi die before yours.

Owh..really??its totally different trans...btw, thanks for ur info...

Ironclad
03-07-2009, 05:04 PM
Nope. Probably because he isn't an antihero.

As far as antagonists with arguably noble motives goes, I think Haku would qualify as the first.

Acceptable. And of course there was Itachi.

Grand_Fireball
03-07-2009, 05:38 PM
To me, Pain seems annoyingly powerful, especially for a corpse, but when I think about it- Madara is gonna be even worse. So, whatever..

ShinobiKnight
03-07-2009, 06:00 PM
Are you guys serious? You're complaining about one of the two ultimate villians being too powerful? Villians are supposed to be extremely powerful. It raises the stakes and makes things interesting. If you knew for sure that Pain could be stopped, the fight would be boring. Of course, he'll lose in the end anyway, but it's a little more interesting knowing he's at least capable of destroying everything our protagonists love and cherish.

bansheewild88
03-07-2009, 07:07 PM
I kinda think its weird how kakashi was so weak in this fight I would think for him to be more powerful in this fight and last a little longer then he did. thats wut upsets me about pain being so strong idk i think he is a little bit to much but yes he is a major villian just upset how naruto is as strong as him and everyone else seems so weak compared to the two now it just bothers me a little bit.

kluang
03-07-2009, 07:14 PM
Naruto is strong cuz of the toad sage and 6 tail. Using I win jutsu on him, but seem it didnt go as plan

superninja
03-07-2009, 07:30 PM
I kinda think its weird how kakashi was so weak in this fight I would think for him to be more powerful in this fight and last a little longer then he did. thats wut upsets me about pain being so strong idk i think he is a little bit to much but yes he is a major villian just upset how naruto is as strong as him and everyone else seems so weak compared to the two now it just bothers me a little bit.

I agree, Naruto seems even more powerful than Yahiko to me and everyone is just left behind.
Yahiko has that one power, but he is not that hard to defeat - just trick him into using his gravity repulsion and then attack him before he gets recharged while Naruto has a range of jutsus, sage mode and mass chakra reserves.
The only ninja that tried to use Yahiko's jutsu to his advantage was Kakashi and I think that sucks.
Kakashi was brushed off too easily while Naruto got his uber power display.

Konnaha_yellow_flash
03-07-2009, 08:34 PM
I kinda think its weird how kakashi was so weak in this fight I would think for him to be more powerful in this fight and last a little longer then he did. thats wut upsets me about pain being so strong idk i think he is a little bit to much but yes he is a major villian just upset how naruto is as strong as him and everyone else seems so weak compared to the two now it just bothers me a little bit.

I think your looking at it the wrong way. Its not that kakashi was weak, but Deva pain was so strong. Just look at him in the fight with Sage naruto. Hes cleaning house just as he did against kakashi. So, if even naruto in SM cant do much against Deva then why are you upset about kakashi? Lol it took six tails kyuubi power just to do some damage to deva.

ABout pain being too strong. Well, what so unexpected about someone with the most powerful doujutsu, to be seemingly unbeatable.

HoboAssassin
03-07-2009, 09:19 PM
No I find it extremely stupid how Naruto progressed so stupidly and ridiculously fast- it seems like Kishi was trying to take a shortcut to making Naruto stronger, which I find really stupid. On top of that, the whole lvoe thing with Hinato i find extremely stupid-- in general I think Kishi just did a terrible job with this part.

Konnaha_yellow_flash
03-07-2009, 09:32 PM
No I find it extremely stupid how Naruto progressed so stupidly and ridiculously fast- it seems like Kishi was trying to take a shortcut to making Naruto stronger, which I find really stupid. On top of that, the whole lvoe thing with Hinato i find extremely stupid-- in general I think Kishi just did a terrible job with this part.

I agree the jump from low jounin to mid kage level was too much for just a week or two of training that didnt even use KBs to speed it up "exept four at first, then none". and then naruto showed up, kicked the crap out of five realms looking unbeatable. However, Kishi made it clear that naruto isnt a god in SM since his pwning came to a screeching halt against deva. And was pretty much done after a couple of attacks form deva that left ma, pa dead, gama, destroyer and the other giant toad KOed, plus naruto skewered to the ground helpless.

As for Hinata, Kishis been building her character up for the moment she had in chapter 337. So, its been years in the making.

emachina
03-07-2009, 09:57 PM
Pain is the Majin Buu of this series. Yeah, I stated before Pain's powers remind me of a bunch of five year olds playing make believe in their front yard. Or, more like Cartman in the ninja episode of South Park. There's nothing this guy can't do. Now I don't have a problem with super bad ass villains, but keep it in the realm of plausibility which has been constant in the series. Orochimaru needed an army to invade Konoha, and even he didn't do as much to Konoha even with giant snakes and frogs fighting in the middle of the village.

Yet Pain wipes out jounin after jounin without breaking a sweat, completely annihilates everything, takes his own attack to the kisser, and just shrugs everything off. This guy is uber powerful beyond belief, yet no one ever heard of him before now? WTFH? Does Naruto need a good ass kicking? Sure he does. He's the protagonist. But there are other ways to destroy the village and give Naruto a butt whippin' without needing a generic uber God character who can smite an army with a flick of his finger.

OG
03-07-2009, 11:20 PM
I'm i the only one who thinks Kishi is taking this pain thing a little to far ?
This guy can kill every body looses all his bodies and is still standing. What the fuck? Naruto goes into sage mode has multiple copies and still looses, and on top of that he kills the elder toad and almost kills hinata after he destroyed the village.

Kishi is just taking this pain thing too far and it's getting tiring,
Does anybody else feel exactly like i do?
how about when sasuke killed orochimaru with barely a real fight when orochimaru has been on konoha's [not only konoha, other villages too] case since he was born...orochimaru's beat many and killed many and even escaped from akatsuki and dont forget he was also a sannin, but oh no, he is defeated by some emo teenager ragin to be fucked by some GUY who has a penor large enough to fill his void

why yes, the pain thing is really TOO far

shippuuden101
03-07-2009, 11:24 PM
Kishi's just adding to the excitement. Just makes you want to read the next chapter more.

emachina
03-07-2009, 11:27 PM
how about when sasuke killed orochimaru with barely a real fight when orochimaru has been on konoha's [not only konoha, other villages too] case since he was born...orochimaru's beat many and killed many and even escaped from akatsuki and dont forget he was also a sannin, but oh no, he is defeated by some emo teenager ragin to be fucked by some GUY who has a penor large enough to fill his void

why yes, the pain thing is really TOO far

But, at least with Ochi, he was really darn sick at the time. I've never truly grasped why Ochi was so healthy and kick ass when we first see him, but after his last body change he's been on the verge of collapse but will be all healthy again when he takes over Sasuke's body. I assume it has to do with the Death God technique the third used, but not sure.

OG
03-07-2009, 11:37 PM
But, at least with Ochi, he was really darn sick at the time. I've never truly grasped why Ochi was so healthy and kick ass when we first see him, but after his last body change he's been on the verge of collapse but will be all healthy again when he takes over Sasuke's body. I assume it has to do with the Death God technique the third used, but not sure.
he fought 4 tail naruto

did u forget he lost the use of his arms when he was fighting with that other guy? who was it again...oh yea the 3rd, and he still did not die. he had use of his arms afterwards, after transferring yes.

//so as u can see, even with handicaps, he should have been able to escape like he usually does. a big fight with him innit is always good

emachina
03-07-2009, 11:46 PM
he fought 4 tail naruto

did u forget he lost the use of his arms when he was fighting with that other guy? who was it again...oh yea the 3rd, and he still did not die. he had use of his arms afterwards, after transferring yes.

//so as u can see, even with handicaps, he should have been able to escape like he usually does. a big fight with him innit is always good

True, true. I guess ever since the Chuunin Exam arc Orochi's been kind of lame, imho. I miss the good ole days. When Orochi was a dark, funny, homicidal maniac who tried to start wars because he was bored. Instead of an open pedophile with a Vincent Valentine fetish.

OG
03-07-2009, 11:59 PM
True, true. I guess ever since the Chuunin Exam arc Orochi's been kind of lame, imho. I miss the good ole days. When Orochi was a dark, funny, homicidal maniac who tried to start wars because he was bored. Instead of an open pedophile with a Vincent Valentine fetish.
he also survived fighting against tsunade AND jiraiya, thats two sannins vs one andddd i do believe he didnt have use of his arms then either

i like orochimaru, he always make things interesting lol

im pretty sure his role [inside kabuto] will show at some point again lol

platinumrug
03-08-2009, 03:13 AM
I love the development of Hinata, it's fucking awesome.

Gamabunta
03-08-2009, 06:34 AM
Nope Pain fight with Naruto meant to be that tiring...
Coz Pain is Akatsuki self-proclaimed leader.

Naruto sucks with 0 skill on genjutsu...

And Hinata messed up being way past valentine's day....

But Pain ultimately messed up failing to hit the fatality combo when shes right at his mercy, naked and defenseless...

:D

Ironclad
03-08-2009, 07:47 AM
Oy.


I predict Kakashi's role will be larger now on if he survives. Hinata probably survives and acts as the driving force to have ve behind Naruto. He will probably want to have some kind of vengeance either way.

I think that the original teams will endure (Sai is the substitute for Sasuke who was obviously meant to be an antagonistic force towards Naruto). Kishi is smart: who could substitute Hinata in this sense?

movalle
03-09-2009, 01:07 PM
True, true. I guess ever since the Chuunin Exam arc Orochi's been kind of lame, imho. I miss the good ole days. When Orochi was a dark, funny, homicidal maniac who tried to start wars because he was bored. Instead of an open pedophile with a Vincent Valentine fetish.

this is something i agree with because oro was someone who you acualy thought to be pretty much the final boss and when sasuke defeated him with out much of a match then you start to think kishi is trying to make Pein the final boss and now kishi is also killing quite of few peple who were strong in the story.

Hurricane Chronicles
03-10-2009, 12:32 AM
I'm i the only one who thinks Kishi is taking this pain thing a little to far ?
This guy can kill every body looses all his bodies and is still standing. What the fuck? Naruto goes into sage mode has multiple copies and still looses, and on top of that he kills the elder toad and almost kills hinata after he destroyed the village.

Kishi is just taking this pain thing too far and it's getting tiring,
Does anybody else feel exactly like i do?

Yes i do, Pain is a little tiring now everytime i look he's pulling more tricks out of his ass

Freshgrease
03-10-2009, 12:35 AM
Quite fitting seeing how you place skanks in your ava and signature.

Hurricane Chronicles
03-10-2009, 12:39 AM
Quite fitting seeing how you place skanks in your ava and signature.

What the hell does that have to do with da damn thread?

Back on topic - Kishi is also going over board with killing everydamn body

LonelyNinja
03-10-2009, 12:42 AM
Kishi is just taking this pain thing too far and it's getting tiring,
Does anybody else feel exactly like i do?
Actually, I'm disappointed with Pain's nonchalance in regards to pwning the shit out of everyone in his way.
Yeah, the guy with super legendary ultra god ninja eyes pwning hard is definitely taking shit too far. Good call, man.
Like, for seriously, my brother.
Naruto is too long and it's getting too off-the-wall. It should end soon and everyone's dreams being crushed would be ironic. Plus I'm a total cynic.
I'm on this bandwagon.

Itachi_weasel14
03-10-2009, 09:04 AM
Naruto is too long and it's getting too off-the-wall. It should end soon and everyone's dreams being crushed would be ironic. Plus I'm a total cynic.

Ya i gusse your right but hay there only alittle left for them to do lets see...
*finish off pain
*finish off the rest of the akatsuki
*kill pain real body
*the 8 tailed beast need to be offed to
*team hawk [or whatever]
*sasuke need to fight tobi and steal his eyes [just a thought but it made sense to me or naruto and sasuke team up to get rid of tobi]
*kabuto [did i spell that right ?]
*the final sasuke naruto fight [i don't think naruto could bring himself to kill sasuke but i know naruto will win]
That should take about 75 chap to do all that so really naruto is going to end soon and you are right i would almost love it if everything at the end blew in naruto face but we all know nothing like that is going to happen.