http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/put-a-bible-over-your-penis,-says-pope-200903181648/

POPE Benedict last night claimed that placing a bible over an erect penis before intercourse is the only guaranteed way to prevent the spread of Aids.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/images/stories/bibl.jpgMay cause chafing

Speaking before his tour of Africa, the Pontiff said Aids could only be tackled by the 'traditional teaching of the church' and not a latex rubber sheath that contains infected semen and prevents it from transferring the virus to another human being.

Experts said that either the Pope is suggesting the bible is used like a condom, or he doesn't know what a condom is.

Dr Emma Bradford, of Reading University, said: "I guess you would have to rip out a few pages of Leviticus and then somehow fashion them into a condom-like device using lots and lots of masking tape.

"Or you could shred the pages, soak them in water and construct something that looks a bit like a paper maché cigar tube."

Dr Bradford added: "It has to be one of those two because suggesting that the African Aids epidemic can be contained simply by reading the bible would be criminally insane."

Since his inauguration in 2005 the Pope has continued the Church's strong opposition to condoms by calling for abstinence, supervised heavy petting and whacking it repeatedly with a wooden spoon until it goes all soft again.

Meanwhile the Vatican has issued this year's list of approved non-penetrative carnal techniques including pearl necklaces, light genital branding and something called 'Dutch steamboating'.

also:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/17/pope-africa-condoms-aids

wtf is with this guy?

Well... he is the pope. I mean, can't get much more retarded than that. He believes in talking snakes and shit.

I guess I'd skeet on my bible too if I had one.

Well... he is the pope. I mean, can't get much more retarded than that. He believes in talking snakes and shit.
retarded is way to small to describe this

POPE Benedict last night claimed that placing a bible over an erect penis before intercourse is the only guaranteed way to prevent the spread of Aids.


Well durrrr God totally approves of fornication if you slap your dong around with The Word a bit.

And if you don't want to get her pregnant, milk it and the little dudes will not suffer so much.

Lol, if that doesnt work, just go to page 12 and skull fuck judas to get rid of herpes!

They should little Bible condoms with random sex-related scriptures. I buy one if they made one say "MISSIONARY SEX ONLY" because I would lulz.

All joking aside, he means that men and women should follow the teachings of the bible. No fornication before marriage and no fooling around with someone else while you are married. I'm not perfect, and I'm by no means a saint. But considering those same doctors who are calling the Pope criminally insane for promoting abstinence also consider the spread of AIDS in Africa an epidemic, maybe a little self control would not be to much to ask from people. If over 70 million people in America had AIDS, rest assured, I would not be looking for any one night stands.

Yeah he's gay

They should little Bible condoms with random sex-related scriptures. I buy one if they made one say "MISSIONARY SEX ONLY" because I would lulz.

What would you need condoms for? =D

All joking aside, he means that men and women should follow the teachings of the bible. No fornication before marriage and no fooling around with someone else while you are married. I'm not perfect, and I'm by no means a saint. But considering those same doctors who are calling the Pope criminally insane for promoting abstinence also consider the spread of AIDS in Africa an epidemic, maybe a little self control would not be to much to ask from people. If over 70 million people in America had AIDS, rest assured, I would not be looking for any one night stands.

Know what else prevents AIDS? Condoms. Condemning them is retarded no matter how you try and smear it. He's a dumbshit. And people who do what dumbshits say aren't that bright either.

Song of Songs is one of the best books to jack-off to! It is practically the centerfold of the Bible (strangely it is near the center.)

Know what else prevents AIDS? Condoms. Condemning them is retarded no matter how you try and smear it. He's a dumbshit. And people who do what dumbshits say aren't that bright either.

And people who talk big on the internet are usually small dicked basement dwellers.

So if he stick it up his ass..it will protect him from anal cancer?

/retarded

You know that's a spoof article right. The pontiff didn't physically suggest using the book itself as a contraceptive.

/facepalm

And people who talk big on the internet are usually small dicked basement dwellers.

Define "talking big."

All joking aside, he means that men and women should follow the teachings of the bible. No fornication before marriage and no fooling around with someone else while you are married. I'm not perfect, and I'm by no means a saint. But considering those same doctors who are calling the Pope criminally insane for promoting abstinence also consider the spread of AIDS in Africa an epidemic, maybe a little self control would not be to much to ask from people. If over 70 million people in America had AIDS, rest assured, I would not be looking for any one night stands.

Hurrr, what is rape?

Considering that a good number of countries in Africa are in civil war and basic civil unrest, with almost NO government self control really isn't an issue. I don't think you really understand what it is like over there, I doubt anyone in here does unless they have been there (including me.) But it is not like fucking Miami where you could just go the Roxbury, have a one night stand and be safe. It is more like, a small town being torn up by rebels and having most of the women raped by people who have aids. Not really their fault fuck face.

Hurrr, what is rape?

Considering that a good number of countries in Africa are in civil war and basic civil unrest, with almost NO government self control really isn't an issue. I don't think you really understand what it is like over there, I doubt anyone in here does unless they have been there (including me.) But it is not like fucking Miami where you could just go the Roxbury, have a one night stand and be safe. It is more like, a small town being torn up by rebels and having most of the women raped by people who have aids. Not really their fault fuck face.

I'm always glad when people show their tolerance and open mindedness. I guess I'm free to have an opinion, unless it differs from the majority of those on the internet. However, this article, spoof though it maybe, did not include rape. The Pope's comments, in actuality, were not directed at rape victims. Or those who suffer from bad blood transfusions or anything of the sort. He was talking about the men and women in Africa who are having random sexual encounters.

The population of Africa is 922 million. 60 million people there have HIV or AIDS. That's 15% of the population. So basically, about 1 in 7 people have this disease. The Pope basically said abstinence is the best way to avoid contracting this disease. Holy shit. Common sense. But since it's the Pope, he's a retard, or a dumbshit or whatever other insults you want to throw at the man. But it's common sense.

Do I feel for these people? Yes I do. Is the Pope's message the perfect answer. No it is not. There needs to be more support, more education, better medicine sent in. Basically a huge laundry list of shit that needs to happen before the problems in Africa are solved. But until then, taking every measure one can to help slow the spread of this disease is a course of action that should be taken. Should condoms be made available to Africans, yes. Yes they should. But condoms are not 100% effective in preventing the spread of HIV just as it is not 100% effective for the prevention of a pregnancy. So abstinence is the best course to help reduce the number of new sexually transmitted cases of HIV. Plain and simple.

But until then, taking every measure one can to help slow the spread of this disease is a course of action that should be taken. Should condoms be made available to Africans, yes. Yes they should.

And the Pope has spoken out against the use of condoms. Which means, yes, he is a fucking dumbass. So before you start talking down to us about being super duper mean and other crybaby shit like that, while at the same time hypocritically trying to insult us with generic fail insults, maybe you should try to know what the hell you're talking about first.

Or keep posting stupid shit while pretending you're smart. Doesn't matter to me.

The only ways I can see a condom not being 100% effective is because of the user's fault. If you leave it on the car all day taking heat, put it in your wallet, or don't even know how to put it on very well or use it well of course it ain't gonna be 100% secure condom. Plus I know idiots that do it with a condom then they finish without one, brilliant. Me I leave it nice and cool on my room, watch the expiration date and if im to far from home then 5 minutes waiting on a pharmacy ain't that much. I treat condoms like altars and thanks to that i am free of being spooked. Plus

The population of Africa is 922 million. 60 million people there have HIV or AIDS. That's 15% of the population. So basically, about 1 in 7 people have this disease.

You really don't know how fast and wide a disease without a cure spreads. It is Africa and while the south part of it is very well developed, there will always be idiots on any part of the world. Now the big part of it... thats a different type of setting, civil wars, not much technology, not much education in some it is a gun or agriculture plus the damn disease supposedly came from there. But you can criticize Brasil, now that country really needs education about condoms.

You know that's a spoof article right. The pontiff didn't physically suggest using the book itself as a contraceptive.

/facepalm

Uh...yeah..sure..yeah i know it's a spoof...what do you think i am?stupid?

sheesh.

The pope got bored, and then got doped for the lulz.
Probably wanted to check how much funny shit can his position provide.
He wasn't half bad.

Uh...yeah..sure..yeah i know it's a spoof...what do you think i am?stupid?

sheesh.

And Stupid Post of the Month is won.

lulz, trolling pope is trolling

May his soul rest in peace...amen.....
But his dick cannot.

And the Pope has spoken out against the use of condoms. Which means, yes, he is a fucking dumbass. So before you start talking down to us about being super duper mean and other crybaby shit like that, while at the same time hypocritically trying to insult us with generic fail insults, maybe you should try to know what the hell you're talking about first.

Or keep posting stupid shit while pretending you're smart. Doesn't matter to me.

I never talked down to you about being super duper mean, I simply stated that rather than talk about my position you have taken the Olberman, Coulter, Matthews, Hannity route of being a dick to anyone who dares to disagree with you. And yes, I did throw out an insult, only after first being insulted myself.

I stated my opinion, without resorting to beliittling those who don't agree with me. Because I know not everyone agrees with me. And I welcome opposing viewpoints. You, however have shown a true disdain for anyone with opposing viewpoints. So please, don't talk down to me and pretend you know it all when all you do is make petty insults without adding anything to the discussion. I also stated that I believe the Pope had a point in saying that abstinence is the best policy to help prevent the spread of AIDS. Instead of solely relying on condoms that are not 100% effective. Am I right? I don't know. But I'm willing to listen to anyone who can constructively tell me why they believe I am wrong.

You really don't know how fast and wide a disease without a cure spreads. It is Africa and while the south part of it is very well developed, there will always be idiots on any part of the world. Now the big part of it... thats a different type of setting, civil wars, not much technology, not much education in some it is a gun or agriculture plus the damn disease supposedly came from there. But you can criticize Brasil, now that country really needs education about condoms.

Yes, you are correct I cannot fathom how quickly a disease without a cure does spread. I remember growing up in America when AIDS was considered the plaque of the 20th century. The result of that mindset was SexEd classes asap. And sex education classes preached both abstinence and if that wasn't going to happen, the use of a condom. Now I realize Africa does not have the resources of capabilities that America had in the 90's. And does not have the capabilities of reaching out to their youth like Americans did. So there is no easy, 100% right solution. So, that's why I think every possible avenue that can be used to slow the spread of HIV/AIDS in Africa should be utilized.

So, that's why I think every possible avenue that can be used to slow the spread of HIV/AIDS in Africa should be utilized.

Including using a condom, which the pope says is wrong! Yes abstinence is the best policy, but saying that faith and scripture is the only true contraceptive to follow, and all others must be thrown aside is down right criminal man. BTW i live in Southern Africa, so i have a unique vantage point on this whole scenario.

We have dumbshit politicians down this side that have said on national television that taking a shower after sex is a way to prevent aids, or eating your vegetables will prevent aids. Or better yet, it may not be a politician but there is a rumor going around that some dumb-ass savages believe that having sex with a child younger than 3 years will cure you of aids. No-one knows where this rumor started but there are people who actually believe that this is true. None of these things seem credible to educated people, some are just down-right despicable. But people in Africa dont have the education/intellectual level to read into the words of world leaders and interpret them the way they are intended.

So whether the pope intended for the message to be abstinence is the best policy. Or whether he meant it as condoms are evil is irrelevant. His choice of words will lead millions of Africans to wave a fucking book over their Dong's and think that this will protect them from aids. That was Irresponsible and Idiotic, he should be hung from the Vatican for uttering words that will lead to thousands if not millions more people doing something dumb.

This is not about him being a religious man and it is not a religious argument. Forget that he may be a religious leader and look at his words objectively and you will see that he was just a fucking twat that was not thinking about the implication of his words.

Once again this is leader of one religion saying "Fuck your religions and follow mine"

I never talked down to you about being super duper mean, I simply stated that rather than talk about my position you have taken the Olberman, Coulter, Matthews, Hannity route of being a dick to anyone who dares to disagree with you. And yes, I did throw out an insult, only after first being insulted myself.

First off, cry more.

Secondly, I did address your statement. Condoms also prevent the spread of AIDS, and shouldn't be condemned. Doing so is stupid. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Thirdly, I was never a dick to you. I said the pope is an idiot, and the people who listen to his shit are idiots. I never said anything about you being an idiot. Now, if you are the goddamn pope or someone who thinks condoms make shit worse because the pope says so, then too damn bad. If I say people who think bleach makes good mouth wash are idiots I'm not insulting anyone in particular. I'm stating a goddamn fact. If you gargle with bleach then that's just a coincidence. Same thing here. Quit being a little baby and getting all defensive and sore about stupid shit.

Edit: Note, I'm not making fun of poor african people who can't possibly know any better because they live in a shithole. I'm talking about people who should know better, like the people who have access to the entirety of the internet and it's near unlimited supply of knowledge, yet still defend what the pope says.


I stated my opinion, without resorting to beliittling those who don't agree with me. Because I know not everyone agrees with me. And I welcome opposing viewpoints. You, however have shown a true disdain for anyone with opposing viewpoints. So please, don't talk down to me and pretend you know it all when all you do is make petty insults without adding anything to the discussion. I also stated that I believe the Pope had a point in saying that abstinence is the best policy to help prevent the spread of AIDS. Instead of solely relying on condoms that are not 100% effective. Am I right? I don't know. But I'm willing to listen to anyone who can constructively tell me why they believe I am wrong.

Bullshit. I said the pope is an idiot because he fits the definition of an idiot when he says condoms make shit worse, and instead of providing a counter-argument you instead tried to imply that I have a small wang and live in a basement. "Welcome opposing viewpoints" my ass. Do you even realize how retarded it is that you accuse other people of making petty insults without adding anything to the discussion when you post shit like that? For some reason, I highly doubt you do. Protip: It's pretty damn retarded.

And no, you're not right. He didn't say "condoms are good, but abstinence is better." He said condoms are bad, and only make shit worse. You'd know that if you took the five seconds it would take to google a reputable news network and find out exactly what he said instead of getting your panties in a bunch about shit I said that wasn't even making fun of you, and then making butthurt comments trying to insult my massive man dong to get back at me for the perceived insult I just laid down upon you. All the while demonstrating that you don't even know what the fuck is going on to begin with. If you're too incompetent to do a simple google search, just ask me and I'll post a link for you. Because I'm nice like that.

The only thing I show true disdain for is idiocy. So before you start getting all Dr. Phil on me try making sure you're not posting stupid shit first. Too late now, of course. But something to think about the next time someone hurts your fragile feelings over the interwebs, making you want to go on some sissy crybaby rant about how disdainful he is.

Down boy ;]

This is fucking srs....Condoms r evl >:|

And people who talk big on the internet are usually small dicked basement dwellers.

Not in defense of mibs int he slightest but... isn't THAT just the reply of some butt hurt 15 year old that would like to BELIEVE they're smart because they got to the LOLNOURPHATANDOLDINURMAMAZHOUZLULZ punch? O_0

First of all these news(1st link) is a dumb freaking bullshit! the article in the 1st link is false,the Pope never said it!,its only the columnist striking bullshit idea(a striking title!) to catch the attention of the readers..

but the second link its true & I believed in it:cool:

Believed in it? As in you think the pope is right? As in you agree that condoms are making the aids situation worse?

Yeah, dont use condoms, just be abstinent lol. As if the catholic church is known for abstinence, not free reach arounds to the quire boys in the confession booth.

As a believers I believed in these;)
The Roman Catholic church encourages sexual abstinence and fidelity to prevent the disease from spreading.
to those non-believers you can use condoms as long as it is safe,check it properly before using it:D
to make my explanation short..
self pleasure(all by ourself)for single only, is the safest way for us believers..;)

for married person..(only your wife/husband)

to those SEX MANIAC non believer..use double or triple condom:D or buy some sex dolls/dildo! ...or try to insert your dick at the elevator/lift entrance then close it!hahahaha

self pleasure(all by ourself)for single only, is the safest way for us believers..

for married person..(only your wife/husband)

to those SEX MANIAC non believer..use double or triple condom or buy some sex dolls/dildo! ...or try to insert your dick at the elevator/lift & close it!hahahaha

Translated into,

believers are wankers

married people are cool

non believers are sex maniacs that go around humping mailboxes and shoving sex toys up all sorts of orifices when dial-a-whore is not available.

^I just had to for the LULZ :D

self pleasure(all by ourself)for single only, is the safest way for us believers..;)

for married person..(only your wife/husband)

to those SEX MANIAC non believer..use double or triple condom:D or buy some sex dolls/dildo! ...or try to insert your dick at the elevator/lift entrance then close it!hahahaha

Show me where it says masturbation is any more Holy than sex with someone else....by all means I'm curious cuz fuck... I missed that part where I'm supposed to feel more dignified and redeemed by fapping.

OMFGPERSONALINFOALERT: I suppose you could consider me a SEX MANIAC.... But I don't pounce on everything that has a cock [only with one person really, I just happen to ENJOY it...], and where it is MY sin and my fault, I don't think you have any right to generalize so grossly :|

In a nutshell~ You're being a wang. Shut up.

Did someone just suggest double/triple condom use?

The IQ median in this thread just dropped way down.

No fornication before marriage and no fooling around with someone else while you are married.
exactly.

You know that's a spoof article right. The pontiff didn't physically suggest using the book itself as a contraceptive.
^^ i agree.

Believed in it? As in you think the pope is right? As in you agree that condoms are making the aids situation worse?
the pope is just trying to say that a lil bit of abstinence from sex wouldnt hurt, and that it can help you prevent from having AIDS (that is if you are having multi-sex partners)

coz what happens today, people are using condoms irresponsibly. im not judging anybody, but because they know that condoms can prevent their partner from getting preggy and it can protect them as well from STDs, they tend to have different partners (one-night stands, usually), and we all know that condoms dont always do its job.

i just hope you get my point. ^_^

and
Translated into,

believers are wankers

married people are cool

non believers are sex maniacs that go around humping mailboxes and shoving sex toys up all sorts of orifices when dial-a-whore is not available.

ROFL XD

Show me where it says masturbation is any more Holy than sex with someone else....by all means I'm curious cuz fuck... I missed that part where I'm supposed to feel more dignified and redeemed by fapping.


OMFGPERSONALINFOALERT: I suppose you could consider me a SEX MANIAC.... But I don't pounce on everything that has a cock [only with one person really, I just happen to ENJOY it...], and where it is MY sin and my fault, I don't think you have any right to generalize so grossly :|


In a nutshell~ You're being a wang. Shut up.

who said masturbation?did I said that? I said self pleasure:p when you say self pleasure,it is Something or someone that provides a source of happiness by ourselves,we will watch action movies,drama(excluding porn movie hehe),playing video games,psp,ps2,ps3 etc,singing just to divert our attention from temptation,know what I mean?
but we humans are not perfect,there are times that our mind is filled with lust,so in that case I will just pray for my sin.:D o yeahhh

Did I mention that to those sex maniac non believers ladies they must pounce on everything that has a cock? o dear tsk!tsk! read my post very well, I said that to those sex maniac ladies(non believers only),they must used dildo! to prevent from aids & to stay safe;) also do you believe in GOD if yes,then I'll advice you stop premarital sex k?:D,

Here's an idea: Make her have a complete STD test preformed with certified results, review, fuck. If she makes baby, headbutt to the ovaries till the thing is dislodged. Might take a few goes at it.

to prevent from aids & to stay safe also do you believe in GOD if yes,then I'll advice you stop premarital sex k?,

Why must you discriminate? Non-believers are just as capable of refraining from premarital sex as believers are, its just that believers have a stronger reason to do it. Sounds to me like you think that only believers deserve your amazing advice, and only believers deserve to not contract aids?
Edit: And why point fingers at the ladies as well? Its just as much the guy's responsibility to abstain/be responsible as it is the ladies.

Anyway this has nothing to do with believers and non-believers, it has to do with the pope being an irresponsible twat.

And why on earth must humans not enjoy each others bodies and pleasures responsibly? The idea is to teach responsibility before abstinence because it is easier to be responsible while doing what you want, than to abstain from doing it all together. Human's are lazy creatures, we will always choose the easiest way out of something. So the best thing to do is to teach the easy solution to a population of 5+ billion, dont you think? Condoms are the easy-safe-cost effective solution, so that is the one that you push as hard as you can while trying to teach abstinence.

/discuss.

Why must you discriminate? Non-believers are just as capable of refraining from premarital sex as believers are, its just that believers have a stronger reason to do it. Sounds to me like you think that only believers deserve your amazing advice,
And why on earth must humans not enjoy each others bodies and pleasures responsibly? The idea is to teach responsibility before abstinence because it is easier to be responsible while doing what you want, than to abstain from doing it all together. Human's are lazy creatures, we will always choose the easiest way out of something. So the best thing to do is to teach the easy solution to a population of 5+ billion, dont you think? Condoms are the easy-safe-cost effective solution, so that is the one that you push as hard as you can while trying to teach abstinence. /discuss.

because if your a true believer you don't do this wrong doing(premarital sex).,its hard to explain to you because your not,try to be a believer first then you'll find the answer:)
yah I accept ,even I made a mistake because we are only human but atleast
we believers know that its wrong.,so we only pray for our mistake,atleast our sin will be lessen.

we know that AIDS cannot be attained during intercourse only,so we believers is not exempted of AIDS but our risk for having it is only small because we don't do premarital sex hehe.

ummmmm....... kay.
*Shines reality bat*
Protip: Most believers have sex before marriage. Even when one day your significant other says...."Oh yes im still a virgin" You are going to have to understand that they are very possibly lying. Sorry to hit you with the reality bat there buddy. I understand the religious PoV, but i also understand the human mind far better than you seem to.

EDIT:
And i have found the forum definition of hypocrisy:
because if your a true believer you don't do this wrong doing(premarital sex)
and
we believers know that its wrong.,so we only pray for our mistake,atleast our sin will be lessen.
but we humans are not perfect,there are times that our mind is filled with lust,so in that case I will just pray for my sin. o yeahhh

ummmmm....... kay.
*Shines reality bat*
Protip: Most believers have sex before marriage. Even when one day your significant other says...."Oh yes im still a virgin" You are going to have to understand that they are very possibly lying. Sorry to hit you with the reality bat there buddy. I understand the religious PoV, but i also understand the human mind far better than you seem to.

EDIT:
And i have found the forum definition of hypocrisy:

and

thats why I said to you that we are only humans & humans are not perfect k? hehe even I make mistake:D,but atleast I pray for my sin;)
in other words temptation for not having sex before marriage is one of the most difficult for us to deny,its like "thirsty fields under a rainless sky"

in other words temptation for not having sex before marriage is one of the most difficult for us to deny,its like having thirsty for not dringking a water...

exactly why telling people that condoms should not be used to prevent aids is a very dumb thing to say..... Get it now?

I wish Orvell's parents used a condom. Goddamn.

^^ you got a laugh out of me for that one Miburo....

Orv just needs to wake up and read the pope's words as one human being talking to another, not as the head of a religion spreading the gospel.

exactly why telling people that condoms should not be used to prevent aids is a very dumb thing to say..... Get it now?
not really. did you read my post?
but because they know that condoms can prevent their partner from getting preggy and it can protect them as well from STDs, they tend to have different partners (one-night stands, usually), and we all know that condoms dont always do its job.
get it now?

Yes i did and i was not arguing with your post, i was arguing with orvel, but seeing as you brought it up....

The culture of having multiple sexual partners came about long before the use of condoms. Think of the 60's here.... So no, Condoms are not the reason that people are shagging left right and centre. Yes it helps to know that you can protect yourself from STD's by using a condom and still enjoy having casual sex. But the condom is not the root cause of premarital sex.... So removing condoms is not going to remove the temptation of having sex with different partners.
It may make the more educated people think twice about it, but the less educated ones.... um like 90% of fucking Africa.... would not think twice about banging the shit out of some random girl/guy. So the education of safe sex needs to take top priority, then the education of abstinence can come into play.

I find it very funny that the only people in this thread that are defending the pope's words are the hugely religious ones. All you guys are actually proving is that you are too fanatical and closed minded to look at this situation objectively.

I am not saying that abstinence is not the best way to prevent STD spreading. It most certainly is, and if the pope had said. "I support the efforts of the world health organization and what they are doing to slow the spread of HIV/AIDS in Africa. However i would like to urge the population of africa to consider the teachings in the bible as well, and realize that abstinence is the best policy. If you cannot abstain then condoms or non penetration sex are the best ways to go about looking after your own health."
Now if the pope had said this, it would be a different story. But he said that using condoms to prevent the spread of STD's is wrong and only makes the situation worse. To the un-educated that is a very dangerous statement.

Admitting that the pope was wrong to say that in that way is not paramount to you admitting that the religion he stands for is wrong. It only amounts to proving that he is human like the rest of us. If not a very irresponsible one.
No-one here is accusing the catholic religion of being wrong... it is not about the religion it is about him being a man in a high profile seat of office. I bet if that was Bush saying those exact words you would be humming to a different tune.

If human beings cannot muster the strength and reason to question the people in power, then how are we to advance as a moral and ethically sound civilization?

Nakaichi, the only thing that the pope wants to express is that due to the huge number of HIV/AIDS victims particularly in Africa, it is wise not to depend on the use of condoms when it comes to multi-partner sex relationships, which is one of the reasons of the HIV/AIDS epidemic. For short, refrain from having multi-sex partners and dont use the condoms as an excuse.
The very reason why the Pope expresses such concern is on the fact the condoms are used to prevent STDs but still the epidemic of HIV/AIDS is on high, and the pope came into a conclusion that condoms are not the answer to prevent HIV/AIDS. "The Roman Catholic church encourages sexual abstinence and fidelity to prevent the disease from spreading." The pope addressed this to the African continent, which holds the most number of HIV/AIDS victims. So im quite confused why you guys are making a fuss.

I find it very funny that the only people in this thread that are defending the pope's words are the hugely religious ones.
why not? As long as we know what the Pope says is for the good of others, why would I disagree with him?
All you guys are actually proving is that you are too fanatical and closed minded to look at this situation objectively.
And you think we are that too fanatical? Not really. The pope has a reason for his statements. I, myself, am balancing the situation.

It only amounts to proving that he is human like the rest of us. If not a very irresponsible one.
For what reason? You know what, i like you and i have nothing against you, but i just dont like the way you mock the Church leaders as if they are corrupt and stupid. I know you are an atheist (though u believe in a different kind of god, FTW), but it doesnt mean you have the right to call the church leaders names that are quite an insult to our religion.

You still miss the point Azumi, it has nothing to do with him being a church leader that i am saying that he is irresponsible.
This is his quote:
Yaoundé - Pope Benedict XVI said condoms are not the answer to the Aids epidemic in Africa and can make the problem worse, setting off criticism as he began a weeklong trip to the continent where some 22 million people are living with HIV.

Now to intelligent people like me and you this is not a dangerous statement at all and is not too bad. That is because I can see that this statement needs to be joined and analyzed together with this one:
The pope said a responsible and moral attitude toward sex would help fight the disease

The problem comes when people who are less educated than me and you, and are also not first/second language english speaking citizens. They have no access to TV but are prone to believe the broken telephone that is Africa's news network. That news network consists of what Peter told Paul. So they only look at the first statement and see. Wow, the pope(read as: Some person of high office and influence) says that we must not use condoms to prevent the spread of aids.
In fact it makes things worse. So they think that they must not use condoms. They are still going to have sex with many partners because that is part of the true African culture. Men can have multiple wives and multiple partners in many parts of Africa.

I completely agree with the message that he is trying to convey. But by undermining other preventative measures, he has implied to the uneducated that condoms must not be used at all. The message is correct and true, but he implied abstinence in exclusion of other preventative measures, that is why it is irresponsible.
I could not care less that he is the pope, he could be the president of a country, the king of England, the secretary general of the UN for all i care. The fact of the matter is that he is a very influential person that spoke out without fully understanding the situation in Africa. That is the culture and education situation of Africa.

I live with these people, work with these people, speak with these people every day, and i'm in the most developed country in Africa. Education and infrastructure wise. I have encountered many people already that took his words the wrong way and have said to me, "then im not using a condom because it makes things worse". I would hate to think what impact his words will have in the other regions of Africa. So do not tell me that he conveyed his message across correctly, he did not, he stuffed it up. For that reason and that reason alone i am saying that he is being irresponsible, not because he is a religious leader.
I dont mean to insult a religious leader, i mean to point out that Mr. Benedict spoke irresponsibly considering the whole situation of Africa.

The pope saying condoms make shit worse is completely fucking wrong though, no matter what else he says in addition to it. There aren't any credible studies showing that people are more irresponsible sexually when they have a condom. That's just bullshit.

Condoms help control the spread of sexually transmitted diseases like AIDS. Saying they make shit worse is irresponsible and just plain fucking incorrect. It doesn't matter who is saying it, it's an incorrect statement regardless. Anyone who thinks condoms don't help control the spread of STDs is an idiot. It really is as simple as that.

The Pope and Queen Elizabeth were standing on a balcony beaming at thousands of people in the forecourt below. The Queen says to the Pope out of the corner of her mouth, "I bet you a tenner that I can make every English person in the crowd go wild with just a wave of my hand." The Pope says, "No way. You can't do that."
The Queen says, "Watch this."
So the Queen waves her hand and every English person in the crowd goes crazy, waving their little plastic Union Jacks on sticks and cheering, basically going ballistic.

So the Pope is standing there thinking, "Uh oh, what am I going to do? I never thought she'd be able to do it."
So he thinks to himself for a minute and then he turns to her and says,
"I bet you I can make every Irish person in the crowd go wild, not just now, but for the rest of the week, with just one nod of my head."
The Queen goes, "No way, it can't be done."
So the Pope headbutts her.

The problem comes when people who are less educated than me and you, and are also not first/second language english speaking citizens. They have no access to TV but are prone to believe the broken telephone that is Africa's news network. That news network consists of what Peter told Paul. So they only look at the first statement and see. Wow, the pope(read as: Some person of high office and influence) says that we must not use condoms to prevent the spread of aids.
In fact it makes things worse. So they think that they must not use condoms. They are still going to have sex with many partners because that is part of the true African culture. Men can have multiple wives and multiple partners in many parts of Africa.
I understand your point. But the pope was also trying to evangelize the people in some way, like encouraging them to learn the teachings of the Bible, coz the Pope was certain that they could learn more from it about fidelity to their partners and how to be responsible when it comes to sex.
and i guess it's about time the African people change their culture a bit. Anyway, change is the only constant thing in the world. ^^,

Condoms ARE evil.

Killing the feeling ftl.

I understand your point. But the pope was also trying to evangelize the people in some way, like encouraging them to learn the teachings of the Bible, coz the Pope was certain that they could learn more from it about fidelity to their partners and how to be responsible when it comes to sex.
and i guess it's about time the African people change their culture a bit. Anyway, change is the only constant thing in the world. ^^,
Agree. Fortunately, Christianism IS spreading in Africa. I think many people underestimate moral and religious values and what they can do for people. We think that just because we have education it's equivalent to wisdom or better judgement. Anybody that has spent time with really poor people can realize how much more they understand about values than us the "privileged ones" that have everything we need to survive. Faith is not something you can underestimate, and for it to be true and positive it has to be a conscious faith, a choice, not an imposition.

No one can say that is negative that a person from Africa decides to practice abstinence and the non use of condoms to prevent AIDS as a part of their religious beliefs. THAT spirit of believing in religious teachings and accepting them as something good is preciselythe base for the words of Benedict XVI, because african people have recently found Christianiy and made it a substancial part of their lives...

The Pope will not say anything against Jesus's teachings...Saying that condoms are the best choice to fight AIDS or STD's would be contradictory.

I don't think that the Pope's comments were irresponsible. I think he said what God wanted him to say, regardless of the human opinion.

It really doesn't take that much to see that the best option is abstinence. Not just in Africa but ANYWHERE. Having multiple partners and a active sex life outside marriage is inconvenient, with many risks both for health and mind, it even has an economical impact. Ever wonder how much money it costs to maintain a contraceptive method? And the list goes on...

Overall, I think the Pope did just what he had to do: use the Gospel has his main work tool for the world.

There are comments in this post that are an offense to catholics and christians in general having refered to the Bible in such a disrespecful way. Please stop making remarks of this kind.

You, and others, are missing the point. He's saying condoms DON'T STOP THE SPREAD OF AIDS, AND ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS WORSE! Spreading blatant misinformation to an uneducated public when you're a speaker of authority could easily result in people fucking dying. A lot of people. Why would people who don't know any better use condoms if some dude is telling them that condoms don't work? That's horrible.

Oh, and it offends the shit out of me. Just as people defending that kind of irresponsible shit offends the shit out of me. Please stop posting. = (

And I find the misuse of Biblical text to be EXTREMELY fucking offensive :| [and stupidity]. Shut up.

Well, the thing is that the use of condoms is merely paliative. Using a condom is not 100% efective against HIV or STD's. The root of the problem is what needs to be solved in order to make a true difference and the root of the problem is multiple sex partners. If using condoms is the best way, then tell me how is it that having a better technology in their developement and more propaganda about them haven't helped to solve the problem and the number of cases keeps increasing?

He's saying condoms DON'T STOP THE SPREAD OF AIDS
Which is true and cant be denied because if it DOES STOP the SPREAD OF AIDS then the continent should not be scratching their heads trying to figure out the BEST way to stop AIDS from spreading further.

and
AND ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS WORSE!
Which is just an effect of the continent's culture of having multi-sex partners. The "irresponsible" thing here is not the Pope's words, but the people's use of condoms. "You can use your condom and fuck your wife every night and i assure you, never will you acquire AIDS. But use condoms and fuck every girl you see in the pub, then you are as fucked up as well." You see the difference?

And I find the misuse of Biblical text to be EXTREMELY fucking offensive :| [and stupidity]. Shut up.

Who's this directed towards?

Well, the thing is that the use of condoms is merely paliative. Using a condom is not 100% efective against HIV or STD's. The root of the problem is what needs to be solved in order to make a true difference and the root of the problem is multiple sex partners. If using condoms is the best way, then tell me how is it that having a better technology in their developement and more propaganda about them haven't helped to solve the problem and the number of cases keeps increasing?

There's a difference between not being 100% effective and being completely ineffective/causing a negative effect. Condoms do offer protection against AIDS and other STDs. They certainly don't make it worse. The pope is saying they don't help at all, and actually make shit worse.

Condom use would prevent people from getting AIDS. It would help stop the spread of the disease. It would save lives. These are indisputable facts. The pope is saying the exact fucking opposite. People may needlessly die because they are being told false information. What is so hard to understand?

Which is true and cant be denied because if it DOES STOP the SPREAD OF AIDS then the continent should not be scratching their heads trying to figure out the BEST way to stop AIDS from spreading further.

So you're saying using condoms wouldn't help? You're disregarding scientific fact? The pope is wrong about condoms, plain and simple.


Which is just an effect of the continent's culture of having multi-sex partners. The "irresponsible" thing here is not the Pope's words, but the people's use of condoms. "You can use your condom and fuck your wife every night and i assure you, never will you acquire AIDS. But use condoms and fuck every girl you see in the pub, then you are as fucked up as well." You see the difference?

If a guy with AIDS has sex with 100 girls without a condom they (for arguments sake) will all acquire AIDS and die. If a guy has sex with 100 girls with a condom then 90 of them will not get AIDS. So using a condom would save 90 lives.

It doesn't make it worse. It definitely helps. Is it better than not having sex at all? Of course not. I never said it was. And the pope's argument wasn't "Condoms help, but abstinence is the best solution." It was that "Condoms don't do shit and only make shit worse." I've said that tons of times already, but you guys seem to keep ignoring that part. You don't tell uneducated people that condoms don't work when they do most of the fucking time. Like I just said above, it would save lives. Expecting everyone to just all of a sudden stop having sex is naive and, quite frankly, fucking stupid. At least if those people use condoms that cuts down the spread of the disease dramatically, and saves lives. Telling them condoms don't work will most likely result in people needlessly dying. You don't get more irresponsible then that, seriously.

Who's this directed towards?

At these over-all ridiculous shenanigans
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It doesn't make it worse. It definitely helps. Is it better than not having sex at all? Of course not. I never said it was. And the pope's argument wasn't "Condoms help, but abstinence is the best solution." It was that "Condoms don't do shit and only make shit worse." I've said that tons of times already, but you guys seem to keep ignoring that part.

This argument has gotten ridiculous and off track, and you guys are hardly on point anymore.

The discussion is over a joke news story that is based on what the pope actually said. What he said was just as ridiculous as what the news story was suggesting. Except it didn't put the lives of hundreds of thousands of people at risk by spreading false information. But, since I like you, I'll go back to cracking jokes about how goddamn retarded the pope is if you'd like. Either is fine with me, really. =D

Also, I didn't use any biblical text, so that would make it kind of hard for me to misuse it. Wouldn't it? Hell, I wasn't even talking about religion at all. I'd be saying the same thing if someone posted the president saying the same exact thing the pope said. You religious people sure get sore easily, I don't even have to talk about religion and the butthurt still pours in. = /

I wasn't talking about YOUR shenanigans <_<

I just realized it looks like I was picking on things you said.[I've been living off very little sleep, bare with me ; ;]

That was at every other moron. o.o
Edit~ I quoted you for emphasis. <.<... the hostility really did look like it was towards you. I apologize~

Oh, lol. I get what you're saying now. No worries. = )

<3

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//onsubject LOLPOPEISAMORON

There's a difference between not being 100% effective and being completely ineffective/causing a negative effect. Condoms do offer protection against AIDS and other STDs. They certainly don't make it worse. The pope is saying they don't help at all, and actually make shit worse.


You still haven't answered my question. There's plenty of information accesible in most countries about the use and benefits of condoms for the general public, but the number of cases keeps rising...Condoms have been around World War II; AIDS first appeared in the 80's. Have the number of cases decreased? No they haven't, and there's a lot of sub registration of cases. If people would analyze objectively the effects of a "safe sex" culture it woudn't take too long to see that it has backfired completely. There's plenty information, campaigns and whatever you wanna add, but there's also a ridiculously big sex industry. So people are told to be sexually responsible but casual and irresponsible sex is displayed in movies, tv shows, magazines, etc. How senseless is that???

Nowadays we have so much education about responsible sexuality and a higher number of pregnant teenagers. 11-13 year old girls will have free acces to the morning after pill in England...AND PEOPLE HAVE THE NERV OF SAYING THAT THAT'S ENCOURAGING RESPONSIBLE SEXUALITY????? Yeah that's some real responsability, the world has reached a point where a little girl can use a contraceptive method endorsed by the goverment BECAUSE PEOPLE REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT ABSTINENCE IS THE BEST METHOD. Post modern culture is all about pleasure and following only one's needs no matter the cost. Rules are unwanted, moral is dated and people who think that not having sex is the best solution are seen as stupid or short-minded.

We don't have to go that far to see that the use of condoms will not solve the problem from it's base. What would happen if there weren't any condoms at all? Would people still have sex as much as they have now? Would they? Knowing all about STD's and AIDS? I think people would keep their pants on before taking any actions. The reason people have so much sex is because they know they can rely on condoms.

People have also forgotten about a key factor in this discussion. Most people in Africa don't have enough money to even buy a condom...They don't even have enough money to buy food and feed their children. So it can't be said this is a viable solution to stop AIDS spreading in Africa. Everyone knows that in health matters THE CHANGE IN HABITS is the base for a succesful treatment.

So, what would be the most cost-effective strategy? ABSTINENCE, If stupid ideas such as an adult magazine gets sold, I don't see how is it so impossible to promote abstinence as an effective measure in public health.

We don't have to go that far to see that the use of condoms will not solve the problem from it's base. What would happen if there weren't any condoms at all? Would people still have sex as much as they have now? Would they? Knowing all about STD's and AIDS? I think people would keep their pants on before taking any actions. The reason people have so much sex is because they know they can rely on condoms.
This sentence alone tells me that you care much more about the act of having sense then the actual "sinful" desire. Of course, this view is completely opposite the man you worshiped who stressed that the heart is what counts.

ABSTINENCE IS THE BEST METHOD.

See the problem with that method?

This sentence alone tells me that you care much more about the act of having sense then the actual "sinful" desire. Of course, this view is completely opposite the man you worshiped who stressed that the heart is what counts.
I was trying to point the abstinence as an effective method against AIDS or STD'S OUTSIDE religion; many people think that christians only promote abstinence because having sex is "sinful". To promote abstinence as a viable method in public health (and for people in general) we can't take religion in account. It's not about forcing people to practice it because of religious aspects.

I do not care more about "making sense" more than the teachings of Jesus...I was pointing that His teachings DO HAVE a place in our world's reality and are actually reasonable, even for those who don't believe in Him.

Here's something to prove abstinence's effectivity over condoms:

Condoms: 90% effective
Abstinence: 100% effective.

THAT CAN'T BE DENIED.

There's no worst blind that the one who doesn't want to see...

You still haven't answered my question. There's plenty of information accesible in most countries about the use and benefits of condoms for the general public, but the number of cases keeps rising...Condoms have been around World War II; AIDS first appeared in the 80's. Have the number of cases decreased? No they haven't, and there's a lot of sub registration of cases. If people would analyze objectively the effects of a "safe sex" culture it woudn't take too long to see that it has backfired completely. There's plenty information, campaigns and whatever you wanna add, but there's also a ridiculously big sex industry. So people are told to be sexually responsible but casual and irresponsible sex is displayed in movies, tv shows, magazines, etc. How senseless is that???

Nowadays we have so much education about responsible sexuality and a higher number of pregnant teenagers. 11-13 year old girls will have free acces to the morning after pill in England...AND PEOPLE HAVE THE NERV OF SAYING THAT THAT'S ENCOURAGING RESPONSIBLE SEXUALITY????? Yeah that's some real responsability, the world has reached a point where a little girl can use a contraceptive method endorsed by the goverment BECAUSE PEOPLE REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT ABSTINENCE IS THE BEST METHOD. Post modern culture is all about pleasure and following only one's needs no matter the cost. Rules are unwanted, moral is dated and people who think that not having sex is the best solution are seen as stupid or short-minded.

We don't have to go that far to see that the use of condoms will not solve the problem from it's base. What would happen if there weren't any condoms at all? Would people still have sex as much as they have now? Would they? Knowing all about STD's and AIDS? I think people would keep their pants on before taking any actions. The reason people have so much sex is because they know they can rely on condoms.

People have also forgotten about a key factor in this discussion. Most people in Africa don't have enough money to even buy a condom...They don't even have enough money to buy food and feed their children. So it can't be said this is a viable solution to stop AIDS spreading in Africa. Everyone knows that in health matters THE CHANGE IN HABITS is the base for a succesful treatment.

So, what would be the most cost-effective strategy? ABSTINENCE, If stupid ideas such as an adult magazine gets sold, I don't see how is it so impossible to promote abstinence as an effective measure in public health.

What does any of this have to do with what the pope said? Again, he said condoms are not only ineffective, but make shit worse. Show me some evidence that this is the case, or shut the hell up and admit that the pope is being an irresponsible dipshit.

He never said "Condoms help, but abstinence is the best solution." So any argument about how abstinence is better is irrelevant. Is that really that hard to understand?

I do not care more about "making sense" more than the teachings of Jesus...

Obviously.

Here's something to prove abstinence's effectivity over condoms:

Condoms: 90% effective
Abstinence: 100% effective.

THAT CAN'T BE DENIED.

See that percentage after condoms? That's a 90%. Not a 0%. Not a negative percentage. A 90%. That means when someone with AIDS has sex with a condom on with ten people, nine of them aren't getting AIDS (for argument's sake, of course.).

This information, that you provided, conflicts with what the pope said. Condoms do help. They aren't ineffective. They don't make shit worse. People using condoms will save lives. Telling them they don't work is irresponsible.

There's no worst blind that the one who doesn't want to see...

Mmm. Irony.

Also, tits or GTFO.

I wouldn't know from first hand experience, but I'd take a 10% risk of getting some disease over a 100% chance of staying a virgin.

This pretty much said it all right there Mib's. Condom's help, they are not the final answer or the best way, but they help. The reason that people in Africa don't have access to condoms is because there are not enough world leaders that support free condoms for 3rd world countries. Changing the mindset of the people in Africa to abstain is something that will take too long. Trust me they are pretty set in their ways and traditions.
If we did try it the popes way, there would be no-one left in Africa by the time they were all convinced to abstain from sexual relations.
Condoms help, they do not make things worse, end of discussion.
To say other wise is wrong and irresponsible, irrespective of who you are or what you stand for.

Seriously, wtf do we care... its africa... lettim get aids....

im going to burger king...

What does any of this have to do with what the pope said? Again, he said condoms are not only ineffective, but make shit worse. Show me some evidence that this is the case, or shut the hell up and admit that the pope is being an irresponsible dipshit.

He never said "Condoms help, but abstinence is the best solution." So any argument about how abstinence is better is irrelevant. Is that really that hard to understand?



Obviously.



See that percentage after condoms? That's a 90%. Not a 0%. Not a negative percentage. A 90%. That means when someone with AIDS has sex with a condom on with ten people, nine of them aren't getting AIDS (for argument's sake, of course.).

This information, that you provided, conflicts with what the pope said. Condoms do help. They aren't ineffective. They don't make shit worse. People using condoms will save lives. Telling them they don't work is irresponsible.



Mmm. Irony.

Also, tits or GTFO.
1. Yeah, a person who travels the world to spread messages of hope and tries to make a difference in the world is a dipshit...The Pope will ALWAYS speak in the spirit of Jesus's teachings and the Bible. People need to see where his words are coming from but no one gets that.

You ask for a proof that condoms make things worst...I repeat, if they do help then why the number of cases of AIDS and STD's keep rising??? Condoms have been developed to be effective against this diseases, that's for sure, but reality shows that the number of cases keeps rising as a result of an irresponsible sexuality. Being sexually responsible is not about putting on a condom in every one night stand, it's about sex in the adecuate time, in the right age, maturity and the right person, but no one wants to hear about self control because that's being puritane...God help us to use the one thing that differences us from animals: rational intelligence and will power.

2. You took my words out of context. My reply wasn't addressed to you.

3. Again, 100% is better than 90%. 90% means 1 out of 10 persons can get AIDS or STD's. 100% Means 0 of 10 people can't get this diseases.

The only method endorsed by the Pope to prevent this diseases and for birth control is abstinence, it's implied that if he doesn't support condoms he supports abstinence.

My first argument about pregnant teenagers and the impact of the sex industry was used to emphasize that the act itself of having irresponsible sex, no matter the outcome (meaning a pregnancy, STD's or AIDS) HAS THE SAME RISK. It is clear that the sexual education (apparently improved and complete in content and practical knowledge) hasn't had the impact it was intended to.

Just take a look back...Before it was a taboo having sex before marriage or to have multiple sex partners and sexuality was seen as something "sinful" but there where NO cases of AIDS (it first appeared in the 80's), why? because people had moral reasons for abstinence; it wasn't of course, a healthy way to look at sexuality, but, in the end, people who didn't have as much sex simply didn't get as sick.

1. Yeah, a person who travels the world to spread messages of hope and tries to make a difference in the world is a dipshit...The Pope will ALWAYS speak in the spirit of Jesus's teachings and the Bible. People need to see where his words are coming from but no one gets that.

Yes. And I don't see how that makes him exempt from being a dipshit. Probably because it doesn't.

You ask for a proof that condoms make things worst...I repeat, if they do help then why the number of cases of AIDS and STD's keep rising??? Condoms have been developed to be effective against this diseases, that's for sure, but reality shows that the number of cases keeps rising as a result of an irresponsible sexuality. Being sexually responsible is not about putting on a condom in every one night stand, it's about sex in the adecuate time, in the right age, maturity and the right person, but no one wants to hear about self control because that's being puritane...God help us to use the one thing that differences us from animals: rational intelligence and will power.

Wut? How do condoms make people more sexually irresponsible? Please provide a study or something that shows this.

Condoms lessen the chance of obtaining an STD significantly. You've even admitted to this. Now think about that for a second. How could they possibly make shit worse? That's just retarded. I mean, come the fuck on.

2. You took my words out of context. My reply wasn't addressed to you.

Don't care.

3. Again, 100% is better than 90%. 90% means 1 out of 10 persons can get AIDS or STD's. 100% Means 0 of 10 people can't get this diseases.

Doesn't matter. 90% is better then 0%, and it's better then some negative percentile. Meaning when the pope says that condoms don't help, and make shit worse, he's being a fucking moron. Which is the whole fucking point. Jesus fuck. Pay attention. No one would give a shit if he said abstinence is the best method, but condoms do help. He said condoms don't work, and make the AIDS epidemic worse. Learn to fucking read. Seriously. Goddamn.

SOME THINGS NEED TO BE CLARIFIED TO THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS.
1) There is no conclusive evidence that Condom's are the reason that people are having more casual sexual relationships. If anything the casual sex was there before AIDS, its just that the spread of aids has outlined and highlighted the fact. Casual sex is nothing new. At least not to the last 400 years.
2) The reason that People in Africa are still contracting aids at a huge rate is because they do not have access to free condoms. They dont have money to put food on the table, so where are they going to buy condoms? The world health organization has been punting for free condoms in Africa to help slow the spread of aids.
3) Now I am going to try to say this carefully so that the slower people in the room can understand.... Africans are not using condoms.... because they cannot afford them.... Therefor it is not that condoms are being used and aids is still spreading like a wildfire.... Its that they are not being used widely enough....
Yes Abstinence is the best policy but for Fuck Sakes teach abstinence after you teach sexual responsibility. Condoms are the compromise, abstinence is the non-negotiable extreme. Humans are far more likely to accept a compromise than they are to accept you pushing an ideal on them, that is just how shit works in this world.

Please learn to read, learn to comprehend, and learn to analyze a scenario objectively without your opinions, emotions and beliefs getting involved. No one here is asking you to turn your back on Jesus' teachings, A lot of those moral teachings are very relevant in todays day and age. But come on, the way Benedict said it is not on at all. You cannot say that Condoms make shit worse and expect rational people to not strike out and accuse him of being a moron.

Anyway if you dont get it, then there is not much more that can be said to convince you.

Sigh... it's not funny when it comes to God. What the heck was the Pope thinking? After all, they are human. Anyone remember the incident where popes had sexual relations with little boys?