Aha, philosophy here people.

Knowledge, what is knowledge? Knowing something will happen? The sun; it will rise tomorrow. How do you know? Why do you think so? It's rose every other day, but how do you know for sure it'll rise tomorrow?

Scientific knowledge: molecules, atoms, are they what they are? Do they have those properties? How do we know for sure?

That file is green. What is green? What's a file? Your eyes might be playing a trick on you.

That's evil! What's evil? Maybe what we're doing is evil. Typing is evil.

Soo... how do you know that you know what you know? Perhaps the one true truth is that "I EXIST." Because I think, I exist. What other truths can be 100% justified? And, how do you know that you know what you know?

well, this is cruel! that's for sure.. you ask this question and it can be rhetorical to some.. for me, it is indeed rhetorical.. but i choose to answer. if you ask, what is rhetorical, i say, go check the dictionary. but for now, i just wanna say that we know what we know because we think that way. our brains function that way, we think we are right in some things because it's been proven before but how sure can you be about it right? well, this is up to the individual. if you think you know what you know, you know it.

but if someone comes up to you and tells you that what you know is not right, then that isn't the prob. cause you already know and it's just incorrect. so it's not counted. you already know what you know.

i exist because i'm here. exist means to be; to be real; to live, or to live in difficult conditions. and i know that i exist is because i am here right now. if i don't exist, i won't be typing this thing..


i have to go now.. i'll continue when i get back.

x yami

well, this is cruel! that's for sure.. you ask this question and it can be rhetorical to some.. for me, it is indeed rhetorical.. but i choose to answer. if you ask, what is rhetorical, i say, go check the dictionary. but for now, i just wanna say that we know what we know because we think that way. our brains function that way, we think we are right in some things because it's been proven before but how sure can you be about it right? well, this is up to the individual. if you think you know what you know, you know it. But how do you know you're correct? For eg, you know that light is reflected at an angle which is same as the incidence angle, but (although this would be believed to be a supreme truth) there might be a possibility that it would not happen always. :P[/b]

but if someone comes up to you and tells you that what you know is not right, then that isn't the prob. cause you already know and it's just incorrect. so it's not counted. you already know what you know. But this is a different matter. From what you say, it might be something like "that store sells candies", something that is very possible to be wrong. In which case someone telling you otherwise might be normal. However, what I'm trying to illustrate are "impossibilites", eg, laws of physics. Then again, how do you know the laws will never be broken? People of the past never knew of electricity. They explained it by means of "god". Now, we have advanced this much. What's stopping us from discovering more? And even if we do, it would just be our explanation for things that happen. It probably wouldn't be the true truth.

i exist because i'm here. exist means to be; to be real; to live, or to live in difficult conditions. and i know that i exist is because i am here right now. if i don't exist, i won't be typing this thing.. Yeah, the fact that "I exist" is considered to be the only true truth of this world, that, along with (some believe) mathematical laws.


i have to go now.. i'll continue when i get back.

x yami

And that's it. :)

Look, the phrase 'Nothing is certain' effectively sums up this whole thing. If I look at a flower and say it's pink, who's to say that my eyes aren't just deformed and in reality the flower a completely another colour, that everyone's eyes have just named it 'pink.' But pondering on whether everything really exists or not is just a waste of time, because even if the world doesn't exist and it's all just a dream that I'm having, I don't know how to wake from it and I might as well accept the fact that this is where my existence choses to represent itself. So even realizing you don't know something falls away in the face of what you see and perceive. Anyways, according to my argument this whole argument is a waste of time... Who likes paradoxes? (Sorry this is random and late, just felt like voicing...)

Nothing is for certain... however, if there's a reasonable explanation, we tend to believe it. Not having a certain amount of reason leads to a descent into chaos. We know that we know what we know by confirmation and inferring.

Je pense, donc je suis

I just know.

basically, u dont, u just accept the truth
are u going all like 'Matrix', no one in that movie noes for sure what they live in is real until their unplugged

basically, u dont, u just accept the truth how do you know it's the truth? :p Yup should be rephrased into "accept what you're told", imho.
are u going all like 'Matrix', no one in that movie noes for sure what they live in is real until their unplugged

I think most of you have the same idea that nothing is definite, but yet there are things that are... Such as the existence of I, because I think, and mathematical theorem. Anything else you guys can think of?

well, reading from the above posts, everyone has their own point of view. therefore, i can confirm that Phlemingo is just /cruel/ to ask such a thing.


nothing is certain. nothing can be certain if there is no /reasonable/ explaination for it.


nothing means not anything. certain means having no doubt or knowing exactly (that something is true), or known to be true, correct, exact or effective. this truly means that what ever happens can never be judge just by the eyes itself.


in religion, everything happens when God allows it to happen.

x yami

your right, we "know" what we are brought up to know. what we think is knowledge is juts perception of those we admire and idolise, those we see in society as rock, solid and dependable, so we trust and wholeheartedly accept what they present to us as "truth". but if you question this far, then there is NOTHING u can believe as "truth", leaves are green, i am here, u believe in me, u love me, u can say that all this is uncertain.. only figments of our imagination brought upon by external and internal influences, sight, touch, sound, smell, taste.. u can say that that is all imagination as well.. i guess this question is the basis of religion.. what is true? what can we rely on as absolute truth? i guess if u don't mind me saying so. thats how our perception of "God" was created, someone/ thing we can rely on as a fountain of truth, absolute, a guide and sentry in the chaos and confusion of life

hehe sorry to ramble, but its an interestin topic ^^;

neways my answer is, that we don't really "know" what we know, this is why we grow, to find out more about life, where we live in and who we are. it is because we do not have an absolute answer that we are driven to evolve and change, our ideals, culture, technology and religion. if everything was absolute and everyone was happy with "truth" then there would be no need to evolve, we would all be neanderthals. no electricity, no internet, no forum, no cars, no buses, no houses nothing.

but on the other hand, if we did not "believe" in something. then (like an above poster said) we would be plunged and lapsed into a constant confusion, swept away in the overloading information presented by our senses.

so although truth and knowledge is nothing more than perception and "belief" they are important in life as guidlines and safety nets also as fundamental catalysts in human evolution.. our "truth" and "knowledge" drives us to uncover more "truths" and "knowledge" and as that continues the never ending cycle of self realisation is brought to the surface (bah sorry if u think this is absolute junk, just what i think ^^;; )

i'd like to compliment on Ero-kun's explaination. it is very interesting to learn of what others think.. ^^

to be completely honest, we don't know that we kow what we know, we assume that. But it doesn't matter cause i know that. :p we tell people what we know, which is really outr interpritation of an observation or fact or something, and that interpritation is what we "know". But we don't even know if it's "true". wow this is fun.
No none of us know if we know what we know.

i know what i know because there's higher probability that i know it for sure. if one person said it's wrong, then the probability could drop (which also depends on other factors), but if the certainty probability is still higher than 50%, then we thought that person must be wrong and i'm right. and so on until below 50% then we change our perception about something. If it's 50% then we are in a state of confusion and start asking people or meditating to find the answer.

Je pense, donc je suis
Does that mean "I think, therefore I am"? Je ne sais pas 'pense'. Well, if it does, I agree with that saying.

i know what i know because there's higher probability that i know it for sure. if one person said it's wrong, then the probability could drop (which also depends on other factors), but if the certainty probability is still higher than 50%, then we thought that person must be wrong and i'm right. and so on until below 50% then we change our perception about something. If it's 50% then we are in a state of confusion and start asking people or meditating to find the answer.
But you still don't know. For example, there is say a 60% chance that you will get called upon. You cannot say "I know that I am going to be called upon". Our logic doesn't really work that way. However, if there is only you in a class, and there is a teacher, and the teacher will call upon someone in the class other than him/herself, you can say that "I know that I am going to be called upon". Then again, what if the teacher gets a heart attack and dies? The possibility is remote but it's there, so, like above posters, I'd like to say that in material examples... there cannot be definites, except "I think therefore I am", which I have mentioned countless times.

honestly we don't know anything, what if life is like "the truman show" that would be freakish, but honestly we don't knwo what we know, even though we can assume that we do. I personally have a biaseed oppinion about many things, and one is that what i "know" is true and correct. That is my outlook, even though i will admit that it is the wrong bias, cause we don't know that we know what we know.
lol, this is great.
Love you sweet 'arts.

b/c i'm smart like that, that's why.

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Aha, philosophy here people.

Knowledge, what is knowledge? Knowing something will happen? The sun; it will rise tomorrow. How do you know? Why do you think so? It's rose every other day, but how do you know for sure it'll rise tomorrow?

Scientific knowledge: molecules, atoms, are they what they are? Do they have those properties? How do we know for sure?

That file is green. What is green? What's a file? Your eyes might be playing a trick on you.

That's evil! What's evil? Maybe what we're doing is evil. Typing is evil.

Soo... how do you know that you know what you know? Perhaps the one true truth is that "I EXIST." Because I think, I exist. What other truths can be 100% justified? And, how do you know that you know what you know?
lol
just lol
i used to be like that i still am to much extent...
ur in doubt
while i can go into extent on my philosphies, they may just depress me and many others.
thinking is just bad let me tell yopu that ^^
great responsibility to wonder if any second u could just die and i dont even want to go beyound that. if u want out now just dont think like that ^^ i myself am ruined so dont try going there
-swirlys advice

um knowledge, it's like what's writen in books. knowledge is the still uninvolved information. Now wisdom that is what you have. Wisdom is putting your knowledge to use, is using it in life. wisdom is the thoughts that flow through your mind, not that which is writen in the text books, that is the result of a persons knowledge recorded, so hence it is inatimate knowledge.
"I think there for i am." correct, we do exist, and that is truth, yes so in some rare instances we do actually know something, but if you say you know something else besides the fact that you exist, you are making assumptions and such.