Its becoming more plausible that minato truely couldve put the yang half of the kyuubi in sasuke for hiding, not for use like a jink.

The kyuubi recognized his chakra as well as him (probably from 16 years ago, not at the valley as previously thought)http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/

And finally we could have some meaning of why the kyuubi told sasuke not to kill narutohttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/06/

If sasuke truely has the yang half of the kyuubis chakra in him then by killing naruto he would die as well because of balance, yang cant exist without the yin as well.

And the power itachi gave naruto could just be a fuuin jutsu to reseal the yang kyuubis power that has awakened the more hes developed his SG to MS ot EMS and hatred.

So, yah! Minato buried some yang kyuubi treasure in sasuke for madara not to find, but he did.

I forgot to add the comparison by karin as wellhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/

So naruto and sasuke are yet again two piece to a puzzle of stopping madara which minato set up 16 years ago and intrusted itachi to protect sasuke till he could be strong enough to help naruto beat madara.

Let me just be clear. I've heard this ying/yang theory about a hundred times now from a hundred different people, and I do not support any of those theories (or this one).

That said you do make a compelling argument, though there are some fatal flaws. I would like there to be something (hell anything) to explain why sasuke has gone soooooooo far over the deep end the way he has. having half the kyuubi's power in him would explain that. Or he could just be a crazy psychopath.

And the power itachi gave naruto could just be a fuuin jutsu to reseal the yang kyuubis power that has awakened the more hes developed his SG to MS ot EMS and hatred.
This is something that intrigues me. Since we don't know what itachi's power is, this is a good possibility as anything else.

The kyuubi recognized his chakra as well as him (probably from 16 years ago, not at the valley as previously thought)http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/

You see here's the problem. He said "Eyes with suck power and chakra even more sinister then my own.... Not at all unlike what I once saw in a certain Uchiha Madara". How the hell does that help you theory???? He wasn't talking about sasuke's chakra 16 years ago or at the valley. LOLOLOLOL, he was talking about sasuke's chakra right then and there being similar to what madara's chakra was like a long time ago.

And another thing. How would placing half the kyuubi's chakra inside sasuke make him MORE EVIL then the kyuubi. That doesn't make the slightest bit off sense.

if that its true then fuck u all sasuke haters there is relevance of uchiha appearing in 2 panels these last 2 chapter

but tbh kyf it doesnt make sense why it hasnt surfaced in sasuke/ theres no signs of seal

/ sasuke doesnt have any healing abilityh

Let me just be clear. I've heard this ying/yang theory about a hundred times now from a hundred different people, and I do not support any of those theories (or this one).

That said you do make a compelling argument, though there are some fatal flaws. I would like there to be something (hell anything) to explain why sasuke has gone soooooooo far over the deep end the way he has. having half the kyuubi's power in him would explain that. Or he could just be a crazy psychopath.


This is something that intrigues me. Since we don't know what itachi's power is, this is a good possibility as anything else.



You see here's the problem. He said "Eyes with suck power and chakra even more sinister then my own.... Not at all unlike what I once saw in a certain Uchiha Madara". How the hell does that help you theory???? He wasn't talking about sasuke's chakra 16 years ago or at the valley. LOLOLOLOL, he was talking about sasuke's chakra right then and there being similar to what madara's chakra was like a long time ago.

And another thing. How would placing half the kyuubi's chakra inside sasuke make him MORE EVIL then the kyuubi. That doesn't make the slightest bit off sense.

The yin kyuubi compared sasuke to madara because he as well was the kyuubis Jink (remember my theory):cool:

And the Yin kyuubi is actaully the good half so the yang which is the bad half does make sense because it and the juubis chakra could be the only things more sinister then his own.

I mean notice how naruto had a bad side (his yang half) he fought at the beggining of his training. Its the same thing with the kyuubi.

if that its true then fuck u all sasuke haters there is relevance of uchiha appearing in 2 panels these last 2 chapter

but tbh kyf it doesnt make sense why it hasnt surfaced in sasuke/ theres no signs of seal

/ sasuke doesnt have any healing abilityh

It wouldnt if minato hid the yang chakra, not sealed for regular jink usage like naruto. Because its hidden could be why minato couldve had itachi protect sasuke since he wouldnt be able to use the power like naruto could.

if u all go back to that he was only comparing sasuke to madara uchiha nothing more if he had the malice part of the kyubi then y is the kyubi so pissed off at naruto now in the present ur theory doesnt add up and on top of that the malice part of the kyubi was put inside of sora. so sasuke cant have part of the kyubi if he does then the entire story leading up to now is just shit.

the only reason y kyubi said that was because if sasuke killed naruto the kyubi was just gonna be set loose thats all.

Naruto has the full Kyuubi. It has it's mind and it's power. Therefore Kyuubi is whole. Also, I've seen this theory a 1000 times, where are they getting this from?

i dont know thats what gets me if ur watching the anime and the manga. then u wouldnt talk on this subject cause its in the past and its been explained.

The yin kyuubi compared sasuke to madara because he as well was the kyuubis Jink (remember my theory):cool:

oh.....my bad. I (along with every other logically minded person), thought kyuubi said that because he saw sasuke as a crazed lunatic bent on revenge and destruction...."Not at all unlike what I once saw in a certain Uchiha Madara":rolleyes:

And the Yin kyuubi is actaully the good half so the yang which is the bad half does make sense because it and the juubis chakra could be the only things more sinister then his own.

nice theory bro, but I'm still not buying it. I won't totally dismiss it yet. I'm gonna wait until next chapter to see if Minato realizes his opponent (madara or whoever he really is) has the sharingan. If Minato does know this, he would have to be fucking retarded as hell to then turn around and seal part of the kyuubi inside of a uchiha.

the juub is each tail beast together so it would be in a league of its own which means its even more malicious then the kyubi.

^true, but what I was referring to was sasuke's part of the kyuubi being more evil the naruto's. That I don't agree with.

i dont either cause the kyubi has nothing to do with sasuke other than the fact that the uchiha can control the kyubi.

Just some random info.
Yin stands for moon, woman, water, cold, dark, hatred and such. Yang is fire, light, man, warm, love/caring, sun etc. I see a big resemblance in Sasuke when I look at the Yin description. Perhaps what the Moon's Eye Plan really is.

Nice theory KYF, but correct me if I'm wrong but isn't yin = dark while yang = light? I think you got the yin/yang chakras mixed up. Plus it states in the manga that the Yang half is sealed in Naruto while the Yin is sealed (if your theory's correct) somewhere else.

Its becoming more plausible that minato truely couldve put the yang half of the kyuubi in sasuke for hiding, not for use like a jink.

http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/046/321/original/trololol.jpg

If Minato knew Uchiha Madara wanted the Kyuubi, then why the fuck would Minato seal the Yin part of the Kyuubi's chakra INTO another Uchiha?

Makes no damn sense.

It wouldnt if minato hid the yang chakra, not sealed for regular jink usage like naruto. Because its hidden could be why minato couldve had itachi protect sasuke since he wouldnt be able to use the power like naruto could.

No,just no. If you have a bijuu in you it will try to break out of the seal whenever you're in danger or when it feels like it.

No,just no. If you have a bijuu in you it will try to break out of the seal whenever you're in danger or when it feels like it.

Really pimply kishi:rolleyes: Then maybe u should explain that in the next chapter, hahaha....

So no one can really grasp the concept of minato sealing the other half of the kyuubi in sasuke to be hidden, no used like narutos half? Either for safe keeping along with itachis help, to keep a balance between the senju and uchiha. And maybe madara explained his little end game and minato needed an uchiha/RS eyes decendent to make it happen.

For all we know, minatos "that jutsu" could be the reuniting of the kyuubis halves with sasuke so both the eyes and body of RS along with the nintails power can stop madara.

So no one can really grasp the concept of minato sealing the other half of the kyuubi in sasuke to be hidden, no used like narutos half? Either for safe keeping along with itachis help, to keep a balance between the senju and uchiha. And maybe madara explained his little end game and minato needed an uchiha/RS eyes decendent to make it happen.

For all we know, minatos "that jutsu" could be the reuniting of the kyuubis halves with sasuke so both the eyes and body of RS along with the nintails power can stop madara.

But of course, it makes so much sense if we forget that


Sasuke hasn't a Kyuubi seal
Sasuke didn't leak any Kyuubi chakra
Sasuke isn't more special than Minato's son to receive an hidden seal over Naruto
Itachi was 5 then, he shouldn't be carrying Sasuke alone in the first place
There are Jounins more qualified to help Minato with Madara and the Kyuubi than an Itachi that isn't even a Genin

It makes all the sense in the world! How could I ever doubted you?!

[QUOTE]But of course, it makes so much sense if we forget that


Sasuke hasn't a Kyuubi seal

One more time for the reading impaired. "Why have a seal that can be seen by the naked eye if its hiding something so dangerous??? Minato making a regular seal to hide the otherhalf of the kyuubi that could be seen by everyone with sasuke shirt off is like a pirate putting up a sign right over his burried treasure saying "warning, my treasure is here".

Perhaps u dont understand the idea of HIDING because ur just not getting it for some reason.

Sasuke didn't leak any Kyuubi chakra
Then what could this behttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/478/08-09/
and thishttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/484/09/
And whats that karin?http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/08/
andhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/

Even karin compares them as oppisites (naruto yin and sasuke yang basicly). then identifies the power inside naruto as just like sasukes basicly. SO, YEAH!!!

Sasuke isn't more special than Minato's son to receive an hidden seal over Naruto

What?? Special has nothing to do with it. Naruto got to become a jink which is special while sasuke got to become nothing more then a secret treasure chest unable to use that power.

Itachi was 5 then, he shouldn't be carrying Sasuke alone in the first place

That doesnt change the fact he is, does it.....

There are Jounins more qualified to help Minato with Madara and the Kyuubi than an Itachi that isn't even a Genin

Well perhaps minato trusted in a kind face of an uchiha to protect his treasure chest to a certain time. I mean itachis good nature basicly radiates off him so I can see why minato could trust him.


It makes all the sense in the world! How could I ever doubted you?!

Thats what Im wondering! Personally Im hurt u would doubt me after so much I said is now canonz. When will u guys just trust in me to deduce this as wellas I did, minatos FTG, narutos lack of speed in SM, danzou using izanagi, the moon holding the tentails, ect.

Really pimply kishi:rolleyes: Then maybe u should explain that in the next chapter, hahaha....

So no one can really grasp the concept of minato sealing the other half of the kyuubi in sasuke to be hidden, no used like narutos half? Either for safe keeping along with itachis help, to keep a balance between the senju and uchiha. And maybe madara explained his little end game and minato needed an uchiha/RS eyes decendent to make it happen.

For all we know, minatos "that jutsu" could be the reuniting of the kyuubis halves with sasuke so both the eyes and body of RS along with the nintails power can stop madara.

1. I don't have pimples
2. You're just mad because your theory is retarded
3. Stop fapping to Sasuke

One more time for the reading impaired. "Why have a seal that can be seen by the naked eye if its hiding something so dangerous??? Minato making a regular seal to hide the otherhalf of the kyuubi that could be seen by everyone with sasuke shirt off is like a pirate putting up a sign right over his burried treasure saying "warning, my treasure is here".

The same thing can be said about Naruto and Killer Bee, but their seals are still there. Do you really think that Minato preferred to spare Sasuke from the discrimination of being a Jinchuuriki and not his own son? Sorry, I don't think Minato is such a bad parent after what he did this chapter.

Perhaps u dont understand the idea of HIDING because ur just not getting it for some reason.

It's the double standard I'm not getting. You're just forgetting Naruto for some odd reason... oh wait, you're a Sasuketard, that explains all.


Then what could this behttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/478/08-09/
and thishttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/484/09/
And whats that karin?http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/08/
andhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/

Even karin compares them as oppisites (naruto yin and sasuke yang basicly). then identifies the power inside naruto as just like sasukes basicly. SO, YEAH!!!

You don't master the term "metaphor", do you? Go look up a dictionary, read the entrance for it, read these panels again and we'll talk.

And if you don't get by then, it's setting a parallel between the hatred-filled Sasuke and the peace-seeker Naruto. Or do you have to look up "parallel" too?

What?? Special has nothing to do with it. Naruto got to become a jink which is special while sasuke got to become nothing more then a secret treasure chest unable to use that power.

Way to miss the point.

That doesnt change the fact he is, does it.....

Way to miss the point... again.

Well perhaps minato trusted in a kind face of an uchiha to protect his treasure chest to a certain time. I mean itachis good nature basicly radiates off him so I can see why minato could trust him.


Oh good, a joke! Let me chuckle. You're serious? Let me laugh!

Thats what Im wondering! Personally Im hurt u would doubt me after so much I said is now canonz. When will u guys just trust in me to deduce this as wellas I did, minatos FTG, narutos lack of speed in SM, danzou using izanagi, the moon holding the tentails, ect.

Oh noes, when you make incredibly bad theories, you can't be criticized because you made good ones!!! You're untouchable, wooo!!!! You make surprisingly good theories and outrageously bad theories. This one is on the latter group, so don't excuse it with the former group

The same thing can be said about Naruto and Killer Bee, but their seals are still there. Do you really think that Minato preferred to spare Sasuke from the discrimination of being a Jinchuuriki and not his own son? Sorry, I don't think Minato is such a bad parent after what he did this chapter.

I already explained this. Sasuke had itachi and his entire clan who could protect him and naruto didnt have shit so giving him the use of the power was the right move IMO. Anyways, how could minato know he would be the dunce emo ninja.

It's the double standard I'm not getting. You're just forgetting Naruto for some odd reason... oh wait, you're a Sasuketard, that explains all.


*sigh* Insults arent going to allow to understand the concept of Hiding Numious.

You don't master the term "metaphor", do you? Go look up a dictionary, read the entrance for it, read these panels again and we'll talk.

Yea!?!?! Doesnt change the fact ur still not getting it for some reason:confused: Strange:rolleyes:

And if you don't get by then, it's setting a parallel between the hatred-filled Sasuke and the peace-seeker Naruto. Or do you have to look up "parallel" too?

lol, ur really upset about this arent u numiprecious.

Its easily understood, but ur ignoring the coorelation between the kyuubis power along with that metaphor since (naruto good gets the good yin half and sasuke the bad one gets the bad yang half).


Way to miss the point.


Way to miss the point... again.

Ur point is lacking numi. Narutos the one that needed prtection so he got to be the jink while sasuke had an entire clan so he got to be the hiding spot.



Oh good, a joke! Let me chuckle. You're serious? Let me laugh!


What?? U dont think itachi has a peaceful and serine expression?? Oh well, u clearly see things differently somehow:rolleyes: Somehow, LOL!

Oh noes, when you make incredibly bad theories, you can't be criticized because you made good ones!!! You're untouchable, wooo!!!! You make surprisingly good theories and outrageously bad theories. This one is on the latter group, so don't excuse it with the former group

LMAO, thats what all u douches say. "U made 1 good one, blah blah blah". However, almost all of my theories can came true were called retarted and horrible by forum so such on that.

I already explained this. Sasuke had itachi and his entire clan who could protect him and naruto didnt have shit so giving him the use of the power was the right move IMO.

Again with the double standard, I simply don't get it

*sigh* Insults arent going to allow to understand the concept of Hiding Numious.You still didn't answer about your double standard. Yes I have a double standard about Sasuketards, but I admit it.

Yea!?!?! Doesnt change the fact ur still not getting it for some reason:confused: Strange:rolleyes:I can say the same!

Its easily understood, but ur ignoring the coorelation between the kyuubis power along with that metaphor since (naruto good gets the good yin half and sasuke the bad one gets the bad yang half).Metaphors don't exist to be literal after a while, do you know that? Geez :rolleyes:



What?? U dont think itachi has a peaceful and serine expression?? Oh well, u clearly see things differently somehow:rolleyes: Somehow, LOL!No, I chuckled at the thought of Minato contracting Bieber Fever in the form of Itachi. Please, even fanfictions aren't that purple written.


LMAO, thats what all u douches say. "U made 1 good one, blah blah blah". However, almost all of my theories can came true were called retarted and horrible by forum so such on that.So you ignore the positive reviews of your theories and only grab the negative ones to play the victim card? Talk about masochism.

Its becoming more plausible that minato truely couldve put the yang half of the kyuubi in sasuke for hiding, not for use like a jink.

The kyuubi recognized his chakra as well as him (probably from 16 years ago, not at the valley as previously thought)http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/

And finally we could have some meaning of why the kyuubi told sasuke not to kill narutohttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/06/

If sasuke truely has the yang half of the kyuubis chakra in him then by killing naruto he would die as well because of balance, yang cant exist without the yin as well.

And the power itachi gave naruto could just be a fuuin jutsu to reseal the yang kyuubis power that has awakened the more hes developed his SG to MS ot EMS and hatred.

So, yah! Minato buried some yang kyuubi treasure in sasuke for madara not to find, but he did.

I forgot to add the comparison by karin as wellhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/

So naruto and sasuke are yet again two piece to a puzzle of stopping madara which minato set up 16 years ago and intrusted itachi to protect sasuke till he could be strong enough to help naruto beat madara.

KYF I Believe the same thing but this was our first insight into this when we got this pic

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/14/

and when Karin got back around Naruto she noticed the simmilar chakra as being akin to that of Naruto's Kyuubi http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/

She was referring to it being dark i.e evil like Sasuke. Sasuke doesn't have Kyuubi's chakra or else it would have:
1.Save him in life or death situations such as Haku in part one.
2.Would've came out in emotional stress such as Sasuke witnessing Itachi killing his parents.
3. Sasuke would have super fast healing.
4. Would come out if Sasuke ran out of chakra such as the end of the Sasuke vs. Deidara fight.

How old are Itachi when he activate sharingan ?
Why Madara want Sasuke to use Itachi eyes ?
What if the other half is inside Itachi's eye ?
That's may be the cause of early sharingan development.
Just another theory ;)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2702/1242749315bullshitampli.gif

My bullshit meter is going crazy with this theory of yours kyf. Be careful or you just may break it if this theory gets any more outlandish.

KYF if this happens, or something similar (Sasuke being Jink) I will post a thread in the Naruto Manga section saying I'm retarded, and get my infraction.

I second that, as a matter a fact I'll get myself banned for stupidity lol.

Mark my word, It that happen, You won't be able to read another chapter. I. WILL. KILL. KISHIMOTO!

I don't believe Sasuke to have any Kyuubi within him. I don't think that Minato's sealing techniques woulda been so out of wack. He puts a seal on his own Son that has leaked, been resealed at least twice, and he eventually was busting through at 8 to 9 tails vs. Pein. But he puts a seal on Sasuke thats sooooo strong that even when he was near death during vs. Haku, Gaara, Diedara, Itachi, Killerbee, the Kages, and Danzou, and the bijuu NEVER helped. It's always been a comrade to help, assist, and save him, or just dumb blind luck (Itachi basically.... just died on his own, Diedara, and Danzou commited suicide.). You makes some valid points, and you made me think some KYF, but what is the sense of a bijuu simply allowing the host to die, wouldn't the bijuu die as well? And on top of that, its supposedly the 'evil' side that won't come out of Sasuke who's the 'eviliest' character left living in the manga for current deeds, (more than even Kabuto, and Madara, who hasn't done anything but blow smoke and declare a war without an army.)? Or is it possible your saying the evil parts in Naruto, and the good parts in Sasuke, but his hate is 'overpowering' it... interesting theory. But still dosen't work, a bijuu would never allow the host to simply die.

the bijuu doesn't like Sasuke so it let him die. j/k

The Bijuu are the monsters and demons of the Naruto universe.
Obviously we know Minato is forced to seal the nine tails into his son. Which is messed up. But why would he take the evil side and put it in Sasuke? That would be completely retarded on his part.

1. Sealing just the evil part of the second most powerful chakra beast into a child would be kinda evil and not very Hokage like.

2. Sealing a mass of evil into an Uchiha would be dangerous. Hell sealing a massive amount of evil into anything would be dangerous. But sealing it into a person who has a the potential to become a very powerful ninja would be retarded on Minato's part.

I think the panels that talk about Saskue being cold and dark are just related to the fact that the Uchiha clan is portrayed as a clan of evil badasses in this series.

I do find this theory to be quite interesting and kinda cool. But I doubt that it will come to pass.

Yet you guys seen something influenced sasuke to kill those samrurai, and then karin commented on his chakra being darker. Well all will be explained at least two manga chapters from now. I am thinking it is an aspect of the ten tails still in the uchihas DNA maybe.

Hm, well in my opinion Itachi had the Yin half sealed in himself. I think the picture was not meant to focus on Sasuke but more on Itachi. If this is true it would make a whole lot of sense.

1. Itachi was always a mysterious character throughout the manga and as mich as he was in it, there are always questions left about him, so we do not know if he has a seal left on his stomach or etc.

2. Itachi was very powerful, and became very powerful very fast after the Kyuubi attack, this could be because that is who he is, or maybe the Yin chakra from the Kyuubi was sealed in him and gave him more power, but also gave him a darker side, which appears later on.

3. Itachi was very sick, this could be an illness or maybe because he only had the yin chakra sealed in him and because it is so powerful and negative, it did damage to his body and killed him.

4. The power that was given to Naruto was the other half of the chakra, I am not sure how this works, a piece of me says it will come in to play true if it is, like Kushina will say how Itachi was given the other half and then the reason Naruto was able to connect with the Kyuubi is because the full power was finally locked into Naruto. This is the only part of the theory that has a hole.

P.S.!!!!

I do not want this theory to happen, I just believe it is very plausible.

Krurk : Your theory is more intresting than mine , but i dont think Naruto have the full kyuubi.
I want to find out why the hell Madara collect SG eyes and why he likes Sasuke's sussano.
Anyway the next 2 chapters will reveal everything

if anything madara will proably do the same thing that danzo did, u have to admit haveing ur entire arm with sharigans is pretty cool. so maybe madara plans to do that with all those sharigans.

an entire arm of sharingans is gay.

I thought a thoery came around saying the yin is in the toad frog. Once pple have taken notice that it wasnt, it has now move to sasuke?

The whole damn kyuubi is in naruto. Only one half of the chakra is missing now and I'll have to put my foot dowm and say MINATO TOOK IT WITH HIM INTO THE DEATH GOD'S STOMACH.

Why? He must have realised something(may be SG controlling kyyubi was possible because of the YIN part or the becos of the YIN part, kyuubi can easily be controlled to break out of any jink even if it has been sealed)

It is just like naruto, the kyuubi becomes dominant becos of dark naruto. The same way, SG can control the Kyuubi becos of the YIN part.

And that's my theory.

SASUKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE KYUUBI

Entire arm with eyes sounds painful, disgusting and exhausting. The body modification arc is over. There's no point in bringing it back.

Gakure, manga says that Minato only sealed the Yang half of the Fox's chakra, NOT HALF OF THE CHAKRA. There is no Yang without a Yin, and no Yin without a Yang. The Fox is missing the dark and cold Yin chakra it needs to dominate like it used to.

Krurks theory on sealing the Kyuubi in Itachi made more sense than being sealed in Naruto.

maybe itachi passed it to sasuke when he poked him in the head, and the crow that he force fed naruto is the key

no it's not the key.

For Kruks' theory to be true in spite of Itachi's portrayed nature shows unreal mental strength to permit such immense control over oneself without letting anyone have even an iota of a doubt... something which doesn't seem so possible.

Krurk's theory is... slightly better than KYF's. Slightly is the key word. It still has some of the inherent flaws (not leaking Kyuubi chakra, Minato having Bieber Fever and give part of the Kyuubi to an Uchiha, the lack of discrimination towards a Jinchuuriki, among others).

But the points he made (except the illness, it was implied that the MS did that) are stronger than the ones made by KYF for Sasuke (starting with the seal, I think we never saw Itachi's stomach).

It'd be interesting to see a defense to the theory (that hopefully doesn't drop to fantardism).

But the points he made (except the illness, it was implied that the MS did that)

Yeah it could've been the side-effect of Susano`o. Or: Kishi just didn't explain this yet because it's not explained yet, like most things weren't explained yet but now are. I can't think of a better possibility next to Susano`o's side-effect.

*no fandom in this post*

Hm, well in my opinion Itachi had the Yin half sealed in himself. I think the picture was not meant to focus on Sasuke but more on Itachi. If this is true it would make a whole lot of sense.

1. Itachi was always a mysterious character throughout the manga and as mich as he was in it, there are always questions left about him, so we do not know if he has a seal left on his stomach or etc.

2. Itachi was very powerful, and became very powerful very fast after the Kyuubi attack, this could be because that is who he is, or maybe the Yin chakra from the Kyuubi was sealed in him and gave him more power, but also gave him a darker side, which appears later on.

3. Itachi was very sick, this could be an illness or maybe because he only had the yin chakra sealed in him and because it is so powerful and negative, it did damage to his body and killed him.

4. The power that was given to Naruto was the other half of the chakra, I am not sure how this works, a piece of me says it will come in to play true if it is, like Kushina will say how Itachi was given the other half and then the reason Naruto was able to connect with the Kyuubi is because the full power was finally locked into Naruto. This is the only part of the theory that has a hole.

P.S.!!!!

I do not want this theory to happen, I just believe it is very plausible.

Your theory is not possible, sorry. In the last frame of the last chapter, Itachi was holding Sasuke, 'feeling something strange, and evil', or whatever. The 9 tails was at that point, outside of Kushina's body, and being controlled by Madara. Now at some point when Minato gets to the village next week and his techs don't work vs. Kyuubi, and Madara, we know he'll have to go back and get Naruto to seal the Kyuubi within him with the Death God Jutsu. When, how, and why would he have time to break away from all of that, while his wife Kushina is dying, grab Itachi, and place 1/2 of the chakra within him, and he ALSO, never showed a seal on his body, like Sasuke hasen't. If Itachi EVER gained part of the Kyuubi, it didn't happen that night. Its more probable that he stole the half that was possibly in Madara's possesion at some point later.

One more thing to add: If Itachi had half the chakra of the Kyuubi, then his stamina wouldn't be so low.

haha you know kyf, your theory made me laugh, think about this, the other day i was thinking about how much kishi ripped off dbz. if your theory is right were gonna get to see the fusion technique with naruto and sasuke hahah.

oh and dont know if its been said or not but, itatchikillsnaruto, dont be stupid sora never existed it was a filler arc in the anime meaning it wasnt real it was just thought up to waste time, this is like the 3rd thread ive seen you say something about sora and how he was real, he was fake as hell, the only source you should be getting your facts from are the manga not the anime, i mean damn..haven't you realized that sora or a whole lot of useless shit thats in the anime isnt in the manga? so, just give up on that one.

ok so if thats fact and never happened then u can also say that aktasuki didnt catch the bijus and those fillers are all fact to.

itachi wouldnt have half of the kyubi and onto of that it is said that susano cause physical stress on the body. itachi was sick thats all thats y he had slow reflexes.

Dude reread the manga from chapter 1 if you still think Sora is real.

He means that sasuke has the other half of the chakra hidden inside him without kiuuby mind so that why sasuke is not tainted by the bijuu

He means that sasuke has the other half of the chakra hidden inside him without kiuuby mind so that why sasuke is not tainted by the bijuu

Sasuke doesn't need the Kyuubi's hatred to be evil or tainted. The Kyuubi's hatred is shit in front of how Sasuke's mind is developing(twisting) right now.

will either way will find out what happened to the other half of the kyubi's chakra. i think the fourth just sealed it inside a pot or something like what the raikage did when the hachibi's host would die or get loose.

what would sasuke do with the other half of the kyubi's chakra. and if he did have wouldnt the kyubi reconize his own sinster chakra. it wouldnt make since if sasuke had it.

One more thing to add: If Itachi had half the chakra of the Kyuubi, then his stamina wouldn't be so low.
If you were to believe this theory, you could say that Itachi absorbed part of the Kyuubi in a fashion similar to Sasuke absorbing Orochimaru. This could explain that why his stamina is low. You could further infer that this made him sick, similar to how Sasuke didn't look so hot while absorbing Orochimaru. Itachi's illness could be because he was expending a lot of chakra suppressing part of the Kyuubi.

Here is my theory on this situation. As young uchiha try to harness the full power of the sharingan its like running a marathon on a regular basis. On limited time as well as with proper usage and it can be easy but as they over use it than like running a marathon it overstresses the body. Itachi tried to get over this with drugs and willpower much like sasuke but over time it still does severe damage hence why itachi was sick. In some ways Nagato is the extreme example of just how much damage over stressing the body will do when using an eye jutsu to its extremes. It can easily turn a once healthy person into a sunken eyed zombie with a frail body but the powers used at that limit are incredibly potent. The reason sausageboy is so powerful is cause he right now like itachi is taking the power of his body to its constant limit. Unfortunately though it will probably destroy him hence the hope that ems will save him but more than likely it will only make his jutsus even more potent hence why he eventually will burn out which will undoubtably lead to a similar death like itachi. His body will just suddenly give up and thus will be the death of sausageboy the wino-brat.

Here is my theory on this situation. As young uchiha try to harness the full power of the sharingan its like running a marathon on a regular basis. On limited time as well as with proper usage and it can be easy but as they over use it than like running a marathon it overstresses the body. Itachi tried to get over this with drugs and willpower much like sasuke but over time it still does severe damage hence why itachi was sick. In some ways Nagato is the extreme example of just how much damage over stressing the body will do when using an eye jutsu to its extremes. It can easily turn a once healthy person into a sunken eyed zombie with a frail body but the powers used at that limit are incredibly potent. The reason sausageboy is so powerful is cause he right now like itachi is taking the power of his body to its constant limit. Unfortunately though it will probably destroy him hence the hope that ems will save him but more than likely it will only make his jutsus even more potent hence why he eventually will burn out which will undoubtably lead to a similar death like itachi. His body will just suddenly give up and thus will be the death of sausageboy the wino-brat.

But wouldn't that negate the whole point of "Eternal" ? I thought that was some sort of lifelong, unprecedented hax with no negative consequences. (I know I'm wrong somewhere)

Back my theory, I thought about what all of you said and I could be able to answer some of the things.

1. First thing is yes Itachi was very ill from MS, but if you heard Tobi (Madara) when he was talking to Sasuke, he said Itachi was suffering from a disease for some time, he could be referring to MS but I think there may have been something else there.

2. Itachi told Sasuke he kept a lot of secrets from Madara, and vice versa, so it may be possible that he was able to keep that a secret as well, I have no idea how he could because it is Madara and he seems to know a lot but I do no think Itachi is given enough credit for his brilliance (No i do not love the Uchiha's).

3. On Itachi's stamina, it is true his stamina was kind of on the lower side, but this can be disputed on three different things. When comparing Itachi to Naruto, Naruto was born with more stamina and chakra then Itachi, he has an unusually high amount. Also although Jinchurrki's are supposed to have more stamina then usual, if Itachi was only given half of the fox, that being the negative half, it may not have an extreme effect on him in anyway, we have never seen or heard of that before.

4. The mental state of Itachi, Itachi may had not shown side of the fox's chakra at a young age, Naruto was relatively normal himself while he was younger but as he grew older and fought more, the chakra began to show itself. If this is true, when Itachi killed his best friend, that could have happened because the fox began to get into his head. Itachi killed his whole clan, without any kind of mercy, the fox could have helped him accomplish that without feeling any guilt. Then as he grew older and learned how to control its power, just like Naruto has, it became easy for him to manipulate the fox and keep him at bay...I.E. Sharingan.

5. How did Itachi get to the location of Naruto, this is a good question, the only thing I could find reasonable, is that if everyone knew Kushina was a Jink, then Sasuke and Itachi's mother could have known as well, when she saw the Kyuubi she rushed to her friends aid, and somehow Itachi may have been brought along or followed, that being said, it would make more sense for Itachi to be used because of his genius and he is older than Sasuke, as a parent you would rather have your older more expirienced child help then a new born baby who has shown no promise yet. Well in my opinion at least.

6. The leaking Kyuubi chakra can be explained by the fact Itachi is an Uchiha and learned how to suppress the chakra, which also could have gave way to his illness, which i think was mentioned in the forum as well.

7. I may be mistaken, but the Uchiha were not planing a revolt until years after the Kyuubi attack, at least 11? if that is true is it possible Minato was on good terms with them ( I.E. Kushina and Sasuke's mom) and they felt no need to revolt because he was fair with them and they respected him. If this is true then its possible the this is why Itachi was given the other half.

8. Why didn't Itachi have a seal....We never saw him naked or without a shirt on lol, If we did i do not remember that at all in the manga, so in my opinion Kishi left that open for discussion, Itachi was a mysterous character throughout the manga. We went from him killing his family for power, to him killing them to protect the leaf, to him trying to power up Sasuke to stop Madara, to him giving a mysterious crow to Naruto. The guy has been very spontaneous and unpredictable. That is the only reason why this theory can fit in my opinion.

As I said before, this is just a little theory that could fall into place, I personally think the Ying half is gone and will never come back into the manga, there are a lot of holes in my theory as you guys pointed out, I think there were reasonable explanations to all of the holes though as well, but anymore holes i'll try to defend, its just a theory.

Sigh!!!

Lets break it down for those who just want to bitch about the theory without reading.

1. Kishi has presented naruto and sasuke as two halves to a whole in many different ways. RS: naruto body, sasuke eyes. Naruto good, sasuke evil. So why, why wouldnt naruto with yin half and sasuke with yang for defeating madara not be plausible??

2. Madara has fucked both sasuke and naruto so both have to defeat him so working together seems the only way that can be done, thus both join together with theyre power and own his ass.

3. Did u ever give any real thought to why itachi might have spared his brother and killed his clan. If sasuke truly does have the yang half of the kyuubi, his clan found out and wanted to use it and sasuke to defeat the senju then itachi would have a true motive. Itachi protecting his brother and the village from another kyuubi attack at the death of his clan sounds more plausible then the super intelligent itachi let himself be dunced into killing his own clan without a peace talk first:rolleyes:

Most of u people look at this manga as if it was black and white with no grey area which is rediculous considering everything that has happened so far.

A quote for the open minded Impaired. "Like a true shinobi, In kishis manga, not everything is what it seems..............."

Sigh!!!

Lets break it down for those who just want to bitch about the theory without reading.

1. Kishi has presented naruto and sasuke as two halves to a whole in many different ways. RS: naruto body, sasuke eyes. Naruto good, sasuke evil. So why, why wouldnt naruto with yin half and sasuke with yang for defeating madara not be plausible??


Okay,then answer this: how can Minato seal the yang half of the Kyuubi in Sasuke if Naruto and Sasuke Weren't in the same room during the sealing process?

Sigh!!!

Lets break it down for those who just want to bitch about the theory without reading.

1. Kishi has presented naruto and sasuke as two halves to a whole in many different ways. RS: naruto body, sasuke eyes. Naruto good, sasuke evil. So why, why wouldnt naruto with yin half and sasuke with yang for defeating madara not be plausible??

Because Sasuke has shown absolutely no evidence of any of the "symptoms" of being a Jink, Naruto is heavily implied to be more than just the Senju equivalent, and you're a fucking dumbass.

2. Madara has fucked both sasuke and naruto so both have to defeat him so working together seems the only way that can be done, thus both join together with theyre power and own his ass.

You really believe that this is the only way...reeeeaaally.....?

3. Did u ever give any real thought to why itachi might have spared his brother and killed his clan. If sasuke truly does have the yang half of the kyuubi, his clan found out and wanted to use it and sasuke to defeat the senju then itachi would have a true motive. Itachi protecting his brother and the village from another kyuubi attack at the death of his clan sounds more plausible then the super intelligent itachi let himself be dunced into killing his own clan without a peace talk first:rolleyes:

BECAUSE HE FUCKING LOVED HIM. WHAT ABOUT THIS IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND!? There WERE peace talks first, Madara stated that Hiruzen tried to negotiate and failed. Two, Itachi already told Naruto that he would have to kill Sasuke if Madara got to him, which he did. Why in the name of fuck would he try to have Sasuke killed if Sasuke were this "super-duper-secret container for da Kyuubee"?

Most of u people look at this manga as if it was black and white with no grey area which is rediculous considering everything that has happened so far.

A quote for the open minded Impaired. "Like a true shinobi, In kishis manga, not everything is what it seems..............."

There's a difference between looking at a manga and not seeing things interpretively and just pulling shit straight out of your ass. You're doing the latter. We're not "unable to see the gray", you're the only one seeing purple in this colorless manga.

B[QUOTE]ecause Sasuke has shown absolutely no evidence of any of the "symptoms" of being a Jink, Naruto is heavily implied to be more than just the Senju equivalent, and you're a fucking dumbass.

LMFAO, do u even read the MANGA???

Aduuuuuhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/14/
abaaaaa:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/15/
baldauhhhhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/478/08-09/
lanabaugahuuuuu:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/484/09/
and finallyhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/

Whats that karin?? Naruto has another chakra thATS DARK JUST LIKE......

Gee, sense shes been going on and on about sasuke dark chakra. who else could she be comparing narutos other chakra too:rolleyes:

You really believe that this is the only way...reeeeaaally.....?

Of course not, theyre are always other plausible way. However, Im presenting this Idea right now.


BECAUSE HE FUCKING LOVED HIM. WHAT ABOUT THIS IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND!? There WERE peace talks first, Madara stated that Hiruzen tried to negotiate and failed. Two, Itachi already told Naruto that he would have to kill Sasuke if Madara got to him, which he did. Why in the name of fuck would he try to have Sasuke killed if Sasuke were this "super-duper-secret container for da Kyuubee"?

Oh really because I didnt read that. In fact sarutobi only tried to make peace for them against danzou and the other tow. No talks what so ever with the actaul uchiha lol.

So WHY would intelligent itachi truely kill his own clan as if theyre was no other choice??? Perhaps he was protecting more then his little bother. Perhaps he was protecting the other half of the fourths legacy.....

There's a difference between looking at a manga and not seeing things interpretively and just pulling shit straight out of your ass. You're doing the latter. We're not "unable to see the gray", you're the only one seeing purple in this colorless manga.

And yet for some reason Im the one deducing this shit (SM narutos speed, the FTG, ect ect, ect) and yall arent. Whos not interpriting correctly now:confused:

What else do we have to support this theory:

Oh yea:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/490/11/

"The kyuubi will is a mass of hatred that clings to chakra. No matter how hard u brace ur self it will try to take over by any shread of hate it can find"

It clings to chakra and guess that sasanoo is. YEP!!!!

DB3:Amateratsu symbolizes the ''Light of the Material World'' while Tsukiyomi symbolizes ''the Darkness of the Spiritual World''. Those who master both can call upon the power of the raging god of battle (aragami) which is Susanoo. It's materialized chakra, taking the form of the great fighting god and it will destroy all the enemies in front of its eyes.
There is omitted info.

So why is sasukes chakra purely dark now. I first believed it was because of the juubis power passed on and awakened in sasuke through genitics. But, sasuke having the other half of the kyuubi is looking plausible.

So sasuke awakens the MS which is so powerful its able to even draw on amounts of the kyuubis sealed chakra hidden deep within him. And since sasuek is so full of hate, the kyuubis will turns sasanoo pure black like hate itself. Unlike the peaceful itachi who had a light sasanoo.

Naruto: "Believe It!!!" Ha Haaaaaaaa!

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LMFAO, do u even read the MANGA???

Aduuuuuhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/14/
abaaaaa:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/15/
baldauhhhhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/478/08-09/
lanabaugahuuuuu:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/484/09/
and finallyhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/

Whats that karin?? Naruto has another chakra thATS DARK JUST LIKE......

Gee, sense shes been going on and on about sasuke dark chakra. who else could she be comparing narutos other chakra too:rolleyes:



Of course not, theyre are always other plausible way. However, Im presenting this Idea right now.




Oh really because I didnt read that. In fact sarutobi only tried to make peace for them against danzou and the other tow. No talks what so ever with the actaul uchiha lol.

So WHY would intelligent itachi truely kill his own clan as if theyre was no other choice??? Perhaps he was protecting more then his little bother. Perhaps he was protecting the other half of the fourths legacy.....



And yet for some reason Im the one deducing this shit (SM narutos speed, the FTG, ect ect, ect) and yall arent. Whos not interpriting correctly now:confused:


She could have also been implying dark chakra just like... Juugo, or even orochimaru. Juugo would make sense since when sasuke got the cursed seal it was said to have bonded to him very well. Perhaps he still has some of it lingering inside.

[QUOTE=Konnaha_yellow_flash;1835329]


She could have also been implying dark chakra just like... Juugo, or even orochimaru. Juugo would make sense since when sasuke got the cursed seal it was said to have bonded to him very well. Perhaps he still has some of it lingering inside.

But kishi went through the entire arc developing sasuke with such DARK CHAKRA. Why would karin or kishi be refering to anyone else. Kishi does things for a reason and I believe he showed all this and even had karin a sensor type compare them for a reason.

IMO, to show a serious relationship between the two powers which offers alot of possibilites including sasuke having the other half.

i dunno why everyone is dissing the theory

the stuff kyf uses to back up his argument is pretty solid

although i still have doubts that sasuke has the other half
if it is true kishi will have to explain that one


we will know in the next 2-5 chapters

if it is true all u haters ( u senninkorby) can suck it
if its false then nice try kyf but i still believe that naruto +sasuke beating madara part


this theory has more validity in it than most of the shitty theories u lot come up with

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But kishi went through the entire arc developing sasuke with such DARK CHAKRA. Why would karin or kishi be refering to anyone else. Kishi does things for a reason and I believe he showed all this and even had karin a sensor type compare them for a reason.

IMO, to show a serious relationship between the two powers which offers alot of possibilites including sasuke having the other half.



I'm definitely not against the idea, just throwing out other possibilities. It would be nice if Kishi led us down a road with a dead end for a nice twist. Giving something relevance or apparent relevance in the end making it something else.

Theory is definitely plausible though guess we will have to see where it goes KYF.

I just still feel that "That Jutsu" Is some type of reverse death-god summoning Jutsu allowing for the use of death god without the sacrifice of life and possibly sacrificing chakra to pull the people out that were sealed within the death gods belly. This would take a lot of chakra and the 9-tails would be a great battery for it.

[QUOTE=SenninKorby;1835289]B

LMFAO, do u even read the MANGA???

Aduuuuuhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/14/
abaaaaa:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/15/
baldauhhhhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/478/08-09/
lanabaugahuuuuu:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/484/09/
and finallyhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/

Whats that karin?? Naruto has another chakra thATS DARK JUST LIKE......

Gee, sense shes been going on and on about sasuke dark chakra. who else could she be comparing narutos other chakra too:rolleyes:


You just killed your own theory because you can't have two dark halves. Naruto can't have a dark half and Sasuke can't have a dark that'll make two of the same chakra.

Edit:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/490/11/

"The kyuubi will is a mass of hatred that clings to chakra. No matter how hard u brace ur self it will try to take over by any shread of hate it can find"


You said it yourself, and by that Sasuke would've been taking over long ago.

[QUOTE=Konnaha_yellow_flash;1835329]

You just killed your own theory because you can't have two dark halves. Naruto can't have a dark half and Sasuke can't have a dark that'll make two of the same chakra.

Ive already explained that, keep up. Wether naruto has yin or yang, sasuke has the other half. It all depends on if the manga panel used to explain this was correctly translated. However, it can only be one of the two obviously.

Yang is the light side so according to you Naruto has the yang and Sasuke has the yin. So sasuke having the dark chakra would make Sasuke more evil? Then wouldn't the Kyuubi have been taken Sasuke over already since it takes you over if you contain even a tiny amount of hatred?

Edit: How come sasuke didn't know about the Kyuubi then? (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/228/14/)(That's a link if you didn't know)

KYF with this theory, wouldn't it make more sense if (the other half of the Kyuubi was even given to someone else) it was put in Itachi? Since Itachi put something in Naruto, and Itachi is shown wondering what is happening? I think that theory would be much more plausible than in Sasuke.

I'm not going to blatantly insult you here, because I want to see what your response is without the unnecessary insults.

The response won't be much different =/

KYF with this theory, wouldn't it make more sense if (the other half of the Kyuubi was even given to someone else) it was put in Itachi? Since Itachi put something in Naruto, and Itachi is shown wondering what is happening? I think that theory would be much more plausible than in Sasuke.

I'm not going to blatantly insult you here, because I want to see what your response is without the unnecessary insults.

That is why Itachi was "Off" when he faced Sasuke. He just extracted the other half of the Kyuubi and put it into Naruto. The bad arse even even more so now? He puts in a kick azz battle while dieing from the extraction?

Why would Itachi say I hope you'll never have to use it then? How can you use the other half of the Kyuubi.

And once again, every damn plot in the manga just has to be centered around or involving an Uchiha. Even Kyubi that was the sole means of exclusivity, Naruto could boast of...

Just basic info. Yang=naruto, Yin=whoever has besides him.

The "how come he doesn't know anything about the Kyuubi" comment doesn't make any sense, if there is no physical form of the Fox (Yin half). Yin half being just a pure mass of hatred is understandable.

And this travesty still goes around... *sigh*



LMFAO, do u even read the MANGA???

Aduuuuuhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/14/
abaaaaa:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/15/
baldauhhhhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/478/08-09/
lanabaugahuuuuu:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/484/09/
and finallyhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/



Do YOU even read the manga?
1)MS
2)Sasuke's Hatred
3)Sasuke's Hatred
4)Sasuke's Hatred
5)Kyuubi's Hatred (she was commenting how the hatred of Sasuke and Kyuubi were similar)

In your little world, only the Kyuubi can generate hatred? Some of the villains of Naruto would like to have a talk with you.

Whats that karin?? Naruto has another chakra thATS DARK JUST LIKE......

Gee, sense shes been going on and on about sasuke dark chakra. who else could she be comparing narutos other chakra too:rolleyes:She compared the HATRED. How thick can you be?

Oh really because I didnt read that. In fact sarutobi only tried to make peace for them against danzou and the other tow. No talks what so ever with the actaul uchiha lol. Wait, where is the chapter with the proof of Hiruzen not talking to the Uchiha at all? Don't be hating on Hiruzen just to pass your point.

So WHY would intelligent itachi truely kill his own clan as if theyre was no other choice??? Perhaps he was protecting more then his little bother. Perhaps he was protecting the other half of the fourths legacy.....
Or maybe he was avoiding a coup d'état, like Tobi/Madara said and Danzou confirmed? And Sasuke was perhaps the only one not acknowledging said coup and Itachi didn't want innocent blood in his hands? And the fact that Sasuke is his brother maybe helps things....


And yet for some reason Im the one deducing this shit (SM narutos speed, the FTG, ect ect, ect) and yall arent. Whos not interpriting correctly now:confused:You're not always right, Mr. Smarty Pants. At least admit it.

What else do we have to support this theory:

Oh yea:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/490/11/

"The kyuubi will is a mass of hatred that clings to chakra. No matter how hard u brace ur self it will try to take over by any shread of hate it can find"

It clings to chakra and guess that sasanoo is. YEP!!!!


Yeah, let's forget the destiny of hate of the Uchiha since the 1st Son of the Rikudou Sennin. It's so much more convenient!

So why is sasukes chakra purely dark now. I first believed it was because of the juubis power passed on and awakened in sasuke through genitics. But, sasuke having the other half of the kyuubi is looking plausible.Making him believe that Konoha practically stabbed him on the back all along doesn't help with the hatred... no, it must only be the Kyuubi! The Kyuubi is the only source of hatred, Zabuza, Orochimaru, Deidara, Hidan and so many others must have been Kyuubi's Jinchuuriki too!

So sasuke awakens the MS which is so powerful its able to even draw on amounts of the kyuubis sealed chakra hidden deep within him. And since sasuek is so full of hate, the kyuubis will turns sasanoo pure black like hate itself. Unlike the peaceful itachi who had a light sasanoo.So the fact Itachi was a pacifist and Sasuke is a hater means nothing to you?



[QUOTE]But kishi went through the entire arc developing sasuke with such DARK CHAKRA. Why would karin or kishi be refering to anyone else. Kishi does things for a reason and I believe he showed all this and even had karin a sensor type compare them for a reason.Symbolism? You know, writers don't have to be literal about stuff, symbolism is a nice thing to have too.

i dunno why everyone is dissing the theory

the stuff kyf uses to back up his argument is pretty solid

Is as solid as sand in the beach. I wouldn't define solid something so easily fragmentary.

although i still have doubts that sasuke has the other half
if it is true kishi will have to explain that one Kishi would have to waste 5 chapters just to explain the biggest ass-pull in the manga history since Yammi being the 0 Espada. No, I think this surpasses that ass-pull by miles, so yeah, biggest ass-pull in the manga history.

if it is true all u haters ( u senninkorby) can suck itI won't suck it, I'll flip a bird to Kishi and KYF for thinking such atrocity and stop reading such charade that the Naruto manga would become.

if its false then nice try kyf but i still believe that naruto +sasuke beating madara part
I don't dismiss Naruto+Sasuke vs Madara, but they don't need to be both Jinchuuriki to make sense out of it. You know that the plot so far is enough for it to make sense.

this theory has more validity in it than most of the shitty theories u lot come up withTrololol! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwGFalTRHDA)



Ive already explained that, keep up. Wether naruto has yin or yang, sasuke has the other half. It all depends on if the manga panel used to explain this was correctly translated. However, it can only be one of the two obviously.

*facepalms* And you're such an idiot. You shit on your favorite character for making him a Jinchuuriki wannabe and not caring about the immense power of the EMS. Trust me, you'd do a better job at being a Sasuke fan if you let him be like he is.

There's a difference between looking at a manga and not seeing things interpretively and just pulling shit straight out of your ass. You're doing the latter. We're not "unable to see the gray", you're the only one seeing purple in this colorless manga.

KYF loves to see purple in this manga. Too bad is that he confuses purple with gray... he must be daltonic. Then again, why would he justify his ridiculous purple with his well-thought gray everytime he uses the former? KYF's logic makes my head hurt.

He has a point.

It is possible. Not as possible as the other one (clan's history/ancestor), but it is possible. That's why it's still being discussed at all.

Actually, I'd rather see Sasuke have the other half cause that would at least explain and show why he's so haxxed lately. I don't want to see he progressed so much with just his stupid emotions for his brother and his clan, lol. That would mean that he can draw power everytime someone says something bad. That's just like Naruto and the Fox. Doesn't make sense.

It is possible. Not as possible as the other one (clan's history/ancestor), but it is possible. That's why it's still being discussed at all.

Everything is possible, that doesn't mean it should be done. Like the stupid threads saying that Akatsuki Leader=Minato in the beggining of Part II. Or the threads saying that Nagato=Naruto's uncle. This is yet another fan wank pulled-out-of-the-ass theories.

If it is done, this manga simply becomes unreadable for me, like Bleach after the Yammi ass-pull.

Actually, I'd rather see Sasuke have the other half cause that would at least explain and show why he's so haxxed lately. I don't want to see he progressed so much with just his stupid emotions for his brother and his clan, lol. That would mean that he can draw power everytime someone says something bad. That's just like Naruto and the Fox. Doesn't make sense.

The Saiyan became stronger each time they fought, I wouldn't be surprised if Kishi is doing the same to Sasuke. More Hatred=more juice to keep going. It's not that good of a progression, but we have a predecessor and Kishi admitted he's inspired by Dragonball.

The Saiyan became stronger each time they fought, I wouldn't be surprised if Kishi is doing the same to Sasuke. More Hatred=more juice to keep going. It's not that good of a progression, but we have a predecessor and Kishi admitted he's inspired by Dragonball.


I'm going to kill Kishi if he gives him the Saiyan blood trait. What does that make Naruto? Goku, or just a normal guy? (bullshit)

To answer the persons question, why would Itachi tell Naruto he hopes he doesn't need to use it? It is a long shot but maybe because he knows how powerful the dark half of the kyuubi is and did not want Naruto to tap into that power unless absolutely necessary.

To answer the persons question, why would Itachi tell Naruto he hopes he doesn't need to use it? It is a long shot but maybe because he knows how powerful the dark half of the kyuubi is and did not want Naruto to tap into that power unless absolutely necessary.

Read the ongoing arc. You clearly missed it.

Clearly missed what?

Clearly missed what?

The frogs stating that Naruto would be ok if he could drain the Kyuubi's chakra but not its will (which is the dangerous part of the Kyuubi). And Naruto just did that in 499. So even if Naruto taps in the Yin chakra, nothing evil will happen to him, because he restrained the Kyuubi's will (which is the true evil of the Kyuubi).

That's what some people seem to be forgetting.

Ohhh i see what you are saying, but can we agree that it is possible that Itachi was talking about when he went to drain his chakra, if he ended up letting its will take over as well, if you understand. Like when he said, I hope you do not have to use this, maybe he was hoping Naruto would never have to go through what he went through but the Yin chakra was needed for Naruto to accomplish the draining of the kyuubi chakra.

I just wanna point out that KYF stole my theory. if u recall http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59421
i had the same thread on this forum but i cant find it.
Ur welcome KYF. ur welcome
konaha only has one n b-t-dubz. yeahh u probally knew that

Just basic info. Yang=naruto, Yin=Other half left for Naruto

The "how come he doesn't know anything about the Kyuubi" comment doesn't make any sense, if there is no physical form of the Fox (Yin half). Yin half being just a pure mass of hatred is understandable.

I fixed that for you.

How come sasuke didn't know about the Kyuubi then? (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/228/14/)(That's a link if you didn't know)

Did you even click on the link? If you did and you said my statement makes no sense then you obviously know nothing. To break it down for you, my link shows that Sasuke doesn't know about the Kyuubi. Now KYF's theory is that Sasuke has the yin chakra of the Kyuubi. Now if he did he would've known about it according to this http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/496/07/ See how KB says that ANY Jink can talk to their bijuu? Well if Sasuke had the other half then he would've known about it amirite? I know you can't deny this =D

[QUOTE]And this travesty still goes around... *sigh*



Do YOU even read the manga?
1)MS
2)Sasuke's Hatred
3)Sasuke's Hatred
4)Sasuke's Hatred
5)Kyuubi's Hatred (she was commenting how the hatred of Sasuke and Kyuubi were similar)

In your little world, only the Kyuubi can generate hatred? Some of the villains of Naruto would like to have a talk with you.

Your losing it buddy. sasuke has hated like no one hates the entire fucking manga yet u bias ignore the coorelation between the awakening of the MS causing the new chakra that is identical to the kyuubis as described by karin.

LMAO, ur being so dense ur actiong like kishi didnt spend the entire kage arc and danzou then team 7 fight showing the more MS sasuke mastered, the more the DARK chakra took over.
And then kishi goes and purposely has it compared by the best sensor in the manga who has exspirienced that so called dark chakra for two arcs straight yet u see no coorelation lol.

Bias blinded foel. U need to transfer those mangekyou failigans for a new pair because u clearly cant see lol.

She compared the HATRED. How thick can you be?

NO, mister I cant read, she compared the DARKNESS. Hate is hate, but a hate so dark that only the kyuubi posseses is another thing LMAO.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/

U need to reread the damn post u reposted because u didnt see a thing I presented obviously.

Wait, where is the chapter with the proof of Hiruzen not talking to the Uchiha at all? Don't be hating on Hiruzen just to pass your point.


Im not hating, ur just bitching about something u clearly dont understand. Seeninkorby said there was peace talks with the uchiha which was false. Ends up that only sarutobi tried to convince danzou and the other two elders to try and make peace. However, there were no peace talks with the Uchiha themselves.

Or maybe he was avoiding a coup d'état, like Tobi/Madara said and Danzou confirmed? And Sasuke was perhaps the only one not acknowledging said coup and Itachi didn't want innocent blood in his hands? And the fact that Sasuke is his brother maybe helps things....

SO ur telling me the ancient old people he killed werent innocent? And all the other children uchiha werent either? Come on num, ur struggling here. even u have to admit that the intelligent, peaceful itachi wouldnt kill his entire clan without any attempt at piece for a better reason then, konaha our rivals said too:rolleyes:


You're not always right, Mr. Smarty Pants. At least admit it.

Hell no Im not always right, but the buncha foels bitching about my theory just happen to be the same ones ive proved wrong time and time again.


Yeah, let's forget the destiny of hate of the Uchiha since the 1st Son of the Rikudou Sennin. It's so much more convenient!

1. Madara told that story lol.

2. Ur comparing a shinobi/humans hate to that of what should be the ultimate hate of the kyuubi who could very well be the juubis entire dark half/hate all in just one bijuu.

3.Ur statement is completely irrelevant again. So again, humans hate<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<the strongest of the 9 bijuus hate!!!!!

Making him believe that Konoha practically stabbed him on the back all along doesn't help with the hatred... no, it must only be the Kyuubi! The Kyuubi is the only source of hatred, Zabuza, Orochimaru, Deidara, Hidan and so many others must have been Kyuubi's Jinchuuriki too!

Lol, ur counter arguement is null. U know why? Read ^^^^^ everything already stated.


So the fact Itachi was a pacifist and Sasuke is a hater means nothing to you?

Not at all, but ur forgetting that itachi made sasuke the avenger he is today for a reason. And since itachi is so nice, he mustve had a very good endgame for the use of all that hatred when he finally decides to take out madara/tobi.

U know my theory:D



[QUOTE]Symbolism? You know, writers don't have to be literal about stuff, symbolism is a nice thing to have too.


U want to chalk up 2 arcs of development to symbolism:confused:

Lol, narutos whiskers are symbolism and madaras mask is symbolism. However, sasuke having chakra darker then C2 when it was still alittle light says enough. By the time sasuke completed sasanoo against kakashi his chakra wasnt even the previous sensed league lol. Tell me thats just palin old hate num:rolleyes:


Is as solid as sand in the beach. I wouldn't define solid something so easily fragmentary.

Says the hatter, nevermore. Ha Haaaaaaaaaa, freedoms clearly far more logical then u buddy and he is a sasuke fan.

Kishi would have to waste 5 chapters just to explain the biggest ass-pull in the manga history since Yammi being the 0 Espada. No, I think this surpasses that ass-pull by miles, so yeah, biggest ass-pull in the manga history.

Gee, dont let everyone know how much u hate the idea which obviously has no effect on how u judge or see my theory in anyway:rolleyes:


I won't suck it, I'll flip a bird to Kishi and KYF for thinking such atrocity and stop reading such charade that the Naruto manga would become.

Again, B-O-O-H-O-O!!! Sasukes getting development when the mangas name is naruto.

aduur num. Its called naruto, but kishi has developed sasuke to have to kill madara too as well as be narutos other half for a reason.

I don't dismiss Naruto+Sasuke vs Madara, but they don't need to be both Jinchuuriki to make sense out of it. You know that the plot so far is enough for it to make sense.

WTF is wrong u with u people. U criticize my hell out of My theory and yet u cant understand such a simple concept!!!

Narutos a jink because he has his power for use which minato wanted.

However, minato HIDDING the other half in sasuke isnt for use its for HIDDING from madara!!

U fuckers need to get hooked on phonics because ur reading comp sucks!!!!!!!

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*facepalms* And you're such an idiot. You shit on your favorite character for making him a Jinchuuriki wannabe and not caring about the immense power of the EMS. Trust me, you'd do a better job at being a Sasuke fan if you let him be like he is.


He is as kishi presents him. Wether u can come to terms with accepting how kishi present him is completely up to u.

KYF loves to see purple in this manga. Too bad is that he confuses purple with gray... he must be daltonic. Then again, why would he justify his ridiculous purple with his well-thought gray everytime he uses the former? KYF's logic makes my head hurt.

Lots of insults, no panels proving my theory wrong. Ur "everybody has hate" arguement was clearly a sad attempt to just slander a valid theory u just plain dont like the idea of. However, urs as well as others insecurity at the possibility of this comming to pass really shows everytime u trek in here and repost nothing but fail and insults with no shread of actaul proof to suggest otherwise.

I just wanna point out that KYF stole my theory. if u recall http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59421
i had the same thread on this forum but i cant find it.
Ur welcome KYF. ur welcome
konaha only has one n b-t-dubz. yeahh u probally knew that

All u did was make a crazy statement and show no evidence on someother forum I dont even go. However, I had this idea for a while (long before even this one)http://forums.narutocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1808126&postcount=18

Right after I came up with my "sasuke has the juubis chakra influnce theory" almost 6 months ago.

So no I didnt steal it.

Your losing it buddy. sasuke has hated like no one hates the entire fucking manga yet u bias ignore the coorelation between the awakening of the MS causing the new chakra that is identical to the kyuubis as described by karin.

LMAO, ur being so dense ur actiong like kishi didnt spend the entire kage arc and danzou then team 7 fight showing the more MS sasuke mastered, the more the DARK chakra took over.
And then kishi goes and purposely has it compared by the best sensor in the manga who has exspirienced that so called dark chakra for two arcs straight yet u see no coorelation lol.



And yet you fail to realize the symbolism of it all. The clan of hate, Uchiha, have a way to upgrade 2 times their tool, and both times are based on hatred (killing a bond, reaping the eyes out of another MS user). Sasuke symbolizes the hatred that naruto wants to end, and Kishi is trying to portray the message of how hate can rip someone apart. Justifying it with the Kyuubi doesn't only go against the symbolism with "oh it's the kyuubi, it's all cool", it damages the plot to a level beyond repair. I don't know about you, but I prefer the plot coherent.

And lol at calling Karin "the best sensor". So Shii, Ao and SM Naruto are nobody to you, amirite?

Bias blinded foel. U need to transfer those mangekyou failigans for a new pair because u clearly cant see lol.No, I'm not delusional, so I can't see.

NO, mister I cant read, she compared the DARKNESS. Hate is hate, but a hate so dark that only the kyuubi posseses is another thing LMAO.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/[
U need to reread the damn post u reposted because u didnt see a thing I presented obviously.


Darkness=hatred. Or you don't know what are synonyms in context? And I only need to read once that garbage.


Im not hating, ur just bitching about something u clearly dont understand. Seeninkorby said there was peace talks with the uchiha which was false. Ends up that only sarutobi tried to convince danzou and the other two elders to try and make peace. However, there were no peace talks with the Uchiha themselves.As I can't prove there were negotiations with the Uchiha, you can't prove there weren't. You're just saying that there weren't any to give the Uchiha the victim card. Maybe they were victims, but you can't say black on white that they were. So don't try to back up a theory with fan speculation.

SO ur telling me the ancient old people he killed werent innocent? And all the other children uchiha werent either? Come on num, ur struggling here. even u have to admit that the intelligent, peaceful itachi wouldnt kill his entire clan without any attempt at piece for a better reason then, konaha our rivals said too:rolleyes:So, Sasuke being the Kyuubi's Jinchuuriki #2 is better? How? You don't even make sense!

Hell no Im not always right, but the buncha foels bitching about my theory just happen to be the same ones ive proved wrong time and time again.So descend from your high horse and admit your theory is a LONG stretch and an ass-pullm then I won't object.

1. Madara told that story lol.

2. Ur comparing a shinobi/humans hate to that of what should be the ultimate hate of the kyuubi who could very well be the juubis entire dark half/hate all in just one bijuu.

3.Ur statement is completely irrelevant again. So again, humans hate<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<the strongest of the 9 bijuus hate!!!!!So when you make theories based on what Madara said, you're right, when we refute something you say based on what Madara said, it's irrelevant! Again with the double standards!

Lol, ur counter arguement is null. U know why? Read ^^^^^ everything already stated.

Not at all, but ur forgetting that itachi made sasuke the avenger he is today for a reason. And since itachi is so nice, he mustve had a very good endgame for the use of all that hatred when he finally decides to take out madara/tobi.Read that garbage again? NO. If other people hate, it's ok, but if it's Sasuke, it must be the Kyuubi, because he's a little peaceful maiden sewing a shirt for his husband, it's the Kyuubi that is making him crazy! *sigh* :rolleyes:



U want to chalk up 2 arcs of development to symbolism:confused:

Lol, narutos whiskers are symbolism and madaras mask is symbolism.

Those are symbols, not symbolism, you dimwit. Go check the dictionary if you can't tell them apart.

However, sasuke having chakra darker then C2 when it was still alittle light says enough. By the time sasuke completed sasanoo against kakashi his chakra wasnt even the previous sensed league lol. Tell me thats just palin old hate num:rolleyes:And why it wouldn't be? You undervaluing your precious Sasuke's arsenal just for the Kyuubi that, if I remember right, you were hating Naruto for having it until you came up with this lunacy? And one more thing...



Says the hatter, nevermore. Ha Haaaaaaaaaa, freedoms clearly far more logical then u buddy and he is a sasuke fan.You and Freedom07= Sasuketards. If you were truly Sasuke fans, you'd appreciate him for his character, not to wank for him to get all the good haxxes available on the market. That's what makes you both Sasuketards and the shame of all the Sasuke fans.


Gee, dont let everyone know how much u hate the idea which obviously has no effect on how u judge or see my theory in anyway:rolleyes:And you are ignoring the plot itself for supporting this idea. Between having a coherent plot and have a fank wank idea becoming true, I prefer the former. Even if Shikamaru, my favorite character on this manga, got the Rinnegan like it was nothing, I'd call it BS and the biggest ass-pull on this manga. And another thing...

Again, B-O-O-H-O-O!!! Sasukes getting development when the mangas name is naruto.

aduur num. Its called naruto, but kishi has developed sasuke to have to kill madara too as well as be narutos other half for a reason.
There are other characters on this manga that need development WAY more badly than Sasuke and if they got half the Kyuubi's chakra, I'd still flip a bird to Kishi. Even if it was Shikamaru. Heck, I'd flip thousands of birds to Kishi if he ruined my favorite character with such a ridiculous ass-pull.


WTF is wrong u with u people. U criticize my hell out of My theory and yet u cant understand such a simple concept!!!The concept sucks.

Narutos a jink because he has his power for use which minato wanted.

However, minato HIDDING the other half in sasuke isnt for use its for HIDDING from madara!!
And Orochimaru and Madara craved Sasuke like an hungry dog craves a bone. Mission accomplished, Minato!

He is as kishi presents him. Wether u can come to terms with accepting how kishi present him is completely up to u.I'm fine with how Kishi presents Sasuke. He has a good, solid reason to have a great focus and his character is well developed. Is only you Sasuketards that put him in a crystal pedestal and announce him as JC 2.0! Guess what, he's NOT JC 2.0!

Lots of insults, no panels proving my theory wrong. So you ignored the panels I provided you with Sasuke not having a seal and two Kyuubi's Jinchuuriki sporting a seal? Can I link you a panel with Hiruzen and his clones having a seal in their stomach too or you'll ignore it? And the panel that he says it was Minato's jutsu and the panel that Kushina says that she taught all that Minato knew about Fuuinjutsu, or you'll ignore them too?

Ur "everybody has hate" arguement was clearly a sad attempt to just slander a valid theory u just plain dont like the idea of.I don't like it because it hurts the plot more than it helps, and I hate things like that when they happen. Bite me, I can't change that fact about myself.

However, urs as well as others insecurity at the possibility of this comming to pass really shows everytime u trek in here and repost nothing but fail and insults with no shread of actaul proof to suggest otherwise.The most insecure of all calling the other insecure. You're so insecure that when somebody proves you wrong, more than once, you play the victim AND the thick-headed card to keep going. Just suck it up like a man, KYF, and admit your fan wanking.

If you think about it, everyone keeps talking about seeing a seal on Itachi and how he can't have it without the seal, so to just squash this theory entirely, Sasukes new get up shows his stomach at all times, and we do not see any seal, so how could he have it sealed inside him?

And yet you fail to realize the symbolism of it all. The clan of hate, Uchiha, have a way to upgrade 2 times their tool, and both times are based on hatred (killing a bond, reaping the eyes out of another MS user). Sasuke symbolizes the hatred that naruto wants to end, and Kishi is trying to portray the message of how hate can rip someone apart. Justifying it with the Kyuubi doesn't only go against the symbolism with "oh it's the kyuubi, it's all cool", it damages the plot to a level beyond repair. I don't know about you, but I prefer the plot coherent.

Although what u say is correct, sasukes power ups of the MS (feeling extreme sympathy for the loss of a loved one) and the taking of ones brothers eye for the EMS ( is just pure greed for power). NOT HATE.....

Hate isnt the only fuel for the SG which is why itachi is still the #1 SG user of all time, thus being a genjutsu god.

Ur idea that sasukes hate just supports my other theory. However, ur inability to admit the validity of this theory just shows ur bias hating at its worst.

You: "Iz non Lieks urz is theoreeee soz Iz juz dizmizzes itz alls togetharrs withoutz anz actuwall evizadences"



And lol at calling Karin "the best sensor". So Shii, Ao and SM Naruto are nobody to you, amirite?

Its a matter of Opinion, but who else has been able to sense a bijuu inside the jink without the jink even using its power???

No, I'm not delusional, so I can't see.

No, ur actaully not delusional. U just hate the idea of this theory so much u refuse to see anything other then "it cant be possible" which is just close minded bias.

Darkness=hatred. Or you don't know what are synonyms in context? And I only need to read once that garbage.

Lol, its still put in as darkness. I mean sasukes been hating and using CS around karin sense he started to go after itachi yet she never shit hersellf about such a dark chakra. However, the only thing she could possibly compare it to was the darkest of the dark. The kyuubis!!!

With ur logic she was comparing sasukes hate to narutos by which there is no comparison. U just cant admit the obvious context of her statement because again, u hate the mere Idea of this theory.

As I can't prove there were negotiations with the Uchiha, you can't prove there weren't. You're just saying that there weren't any to give the Uchiha the victim card. Maybe they were victims, but you can't say black on white that they were. So don't try to back up a theory with fan speculation.


Lol, fan speculation. Buddy, ur in the same boat as I am lol. Madara can tell some truths and bend some truths so we will find out for sure later like with madara being a jink or not.

However, itachi just whipping out his clan despite his intellect and personality would make a whole lot more sense if sasuke was holding the other half IMO.

So, Sasuke being the Kyuubi's Jinchuuriki #2 is better? How? You don't even make sense!

Lol, sasukes a treasure chest and Im sure itachi had the key (naruto probably has it now). The kyuubis other half is the treasure for defeating madara. But, right now sasuke cant actually use the kyuubis other half exept for the bits of chakra that hes been using sense awakening the MS.

So descend from your high horse and admit your theory is a LONG stretch and an ass-pullm then I won't object.

Hell no!! Ur Idea that no, its just hate is the stretch in a manga where big shit happens where u least expect it lol.

Whos on a high horse telling me the credibility of my theory when Im the one with all the evidence to support it while u have nothing, but ur bias, close minded oppinion.

So when you make theories based on what Madara said, you're right, when we refute something you say based on what Madara said, it's irrelevant! Again with the double standards!

??? What theory did I make on what madara said??? Refresh my memory.

and ur the one claiming "hate" is all, nothing more despite the obvious that u keep ignoring. Humans hate<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<kyuubis hate!!!

Read that garbage again? NO. If other people hate, it's ok, but if it's Sasuke, it must be the Kyuubi, because he's a little peaceful maiden sewing a shirt for his husband, it's the Kyuubi that is making him crazy! *sigh* :rolleyes:

LMAO, so thats what ur so butt hurt about. If this turns out to be true then it really isnt sasukes fault hes gone psycho and just cant stand that idea can u lol. Grow up Num!!! Naruto saving sasuke from himself as well as the dark power that has taken control just makes for a more complex and intersting story IMO.


Those are symbols, not symbolism, you dimwit. Go check the dictionary if you can't tell them apart.

No that symbol L stamped on ur head is a symbol. However, narutos whiskers clearly symbolize him as the foxes jink, thus the fox whiskers. And tobis swirling mask symbolizes the power that comes from the eye the mask is framing with such emphasis.

And why it wouldn't be? You undervaluing your precious Sasuke's arsenal just for the Kyuubi that, if I remember right, you were hating Naruto for having it until you came up with this lunacy? And one more thing...


Lol, yea:confused:

Sasukes arsenal is fine, but the kyuubi like darkness karin mentioned is still there wether u like it or not.
And no I wasnt hating on naruto for having the kyuubi. I would point out the obvious that the kyuubi fought his fights for him when he couldnt control it, but that has clearly changed.

You and Freedom07= Sasuketards. If you were truly Sasuke fans, you'd appreciate him for his character, not to wank for him to get all the good haxxes available on the market. That's what makes you both Sasuketards and the shame of all the Sasuke fans.

Lol, and if u werent such a antisasuketard then u would be able to realise how plausible this theory is.

Think about it:

Naruto, with RS body+ half of the kyuubi

sasuke, with RS's eyes+ half the kyuubi!

Its obvious that the two halves will be rejoined eventually. However, they would be missing something to be anywhere near what the real RS could do unless yea, they both also had a half to the strongest of the 9 bijuu:rolleyes:

Lol, this must be so implausible:rolleyes:

And you are ignoring the plot itself for supporting this idea. Between having a coherent plot and have a fank wank idea becoming true, I prefer the former. Even if Shikamaru, my favorite character on this manga, got the Rinnegan like it was nothing, I'd call it BS and the biggest ass-pull on this manga. And another thing...

Still ignoring the on going plot of the story. Sasuke and naruto are oppisites. Two halves to a greater thing. So, why would them both having two halves to yet another powerful thing be so unbelievable??

There are other characters on this manga that need development WAY more badly than Sasuke and if they got half the Kyuubi's chakra, I'd still flip a bird to Kishi. Even if it was Shikamaru. Heck, I'd flip thousands of birds to Kishi if he ruined my favorite character with such a ridiculous ass-pull.


Yea, sasukes not ur favorite character so what are u bitching about. Sasukes become just as Important as naruto since the beginning of part two lol.

The concept sucks.

And Orochimaru and Madara craved Sasuke like an hungry dog craves a bone. Mission accomplished, Minato!
I'm fine with how Kishi presents Sasuke. He has a good, solid reason to have a great focus and his character is well developed. Is only you Sasuketards that put him in a crystal pedestal and announce him as JC 2.0! Guess what, he's NOT JC 2.0!

Why thank u, I can use ur own point to my advantage!!!

So why did Oro and tobi want itachi and sasuke so bad?? Perhaps they new the chakra had to be within one of them, after learning the truth of that night. Hell, kabuto still wants sasuke for some reason and since he knows tobis idenity. Its easy to believe he could of found out about sasuke being the treasure chest to the kyuubis other half.

So you ignored the panels I provided you with Sasuke not having a seal and two Kyuubi's Jinchuuriki sporting a seal? Can I link you a panel with Hiruzen and his clones having a seal in their stomach too or you'll ignore it? And the panel that he says it was Minato's jutsu and the panel that Kushina says that she taught all that Minato knew about Fuuinjutsu, or you'll ignore them too?


And ur ignoring the fail logic of ur own statement. WHY would minato try to hide the kyuubi if it could be so easily found as to look at sasuke bare belly?? Lol, fail. Ur idea that minato cant possibly create a seal that the naked eye cant see is just the same old bias. Lol, its minato dude.

I don't like it because it hurts the plot more than it helps, and I hate things like that when they happen. Bite me, I can't change that fact about myself.

So u admit u refuse to accpet this theory as plausible because u just dont like it??

The most insecure of all calling the other insecure. You're so insecure that when somebody proves you wrong, more than once, you play the victim AND the thick-headed card to keep going. Just suck it up like a man, KYF, and admit your fan wanking.

Lol, it comes back to fanning lol.

Is that really all u have?? U know, if u actaully read my theory u would realise this isnt a power up for sasuke, but naruto u dense foel. For all ur insults about fanning ur fail to grasp that simple fact.

If u wana know how naruto uses this power up then go read my other theory. Otherwise, keep ur "I just dont like it so it wont happen" Opinion to ur self and let the open mided discuss this.

Yeah, it's off-topic, but I immediately thought that this was gonna be a thread about Sasuke being a gold-digger. But...no. Just no. Sasuke doesn't have any freaking tailed beast in him. I guess you could call his "darkness" a beast of sorts, but no. :cool:

Although what u say is correct, sasukes power ups of the MS (feeling extreme sympathy for the loss of a loved one) and the taking of ones brothers eye for the EMS ( is just pure greed for power). NOT HATE.....

Hate isnt the only fuel for the SG which is why itachi is still the #1 SG user of all time, thus being a genjutsu god.

Ur idea that sasukes hate just supports my other theory. However, ur inability to admit the validity of this theory just shows ur bias hating at its worst.

You: "Iz non Lieks urz is theoreeee soz Iz juz dizmizzes itz alls togetharrs withoutz anz actuwall evizadences"



And you keep going without actual evidences or good grammar for that matter. I show you an alternative explanation for those panels and you, instead of saying "well, it's something to think about, you might be right or wrong but good point"... no, you just dismiss it completely and call retards to whoever shows you things otherwise.

Its a matter of Opinion, but who else has been able to sense a bijuu inside the jink without the jink even using its power???Yeah, I totally know, Shii and Ao totally met Naruto... oh wait, THEY DIDN'T. So your point is rather stupid.

No, ur actaully not delusional. U just hate the idea of this theory so much u refuse to see anything other then "it cant be possible" which is just close minded bias.Because I'm open-minded, I considered your theory, thought on how it'd work and disliked it, so made my counterpoint based on what I labeled wrong with your theory. Now you are the closed-minded one, that can't take a counterpoint and put up a shell to defend you from what everyone else has to say. You just dismiss everyone else's points as "bias" and "haterz". That won't get you anywhere, KYF.

Lol, its still put in as darkness. I mean sasukes been hating and using CS around karin sense he started to go after itachi yet she never shit hersellf about such a dark chakra. However, the only thing she could possibly compare it to was the darkest of the dark. The kyuubis!!!

With ur logic she was comparing sasukes hate to narutos by which there is no comparison. U just cant admit the obvious context of her statement because again, u hate the mere Idea of this theory.*Sigh* You take things too literally and don't grasp symbolism. God forbid you to read a Lord Byron or a Eça de Queirós book, or else your brain will suffer from major meltdown.

Lol, fan speculation. Buddy, ur in the same boat as I am lol. Madara can tell some truths and bend some truths so we will find out for sure later like with madara being a jink or not.I know we're on the same boat, but I'm not the one gloating about what I say has "100% faktz".

However, itachi just whipping out his clan despite his intellect and personality would make a whole lot more sense if sasuke was holding the other half IMO.And IMO it wouldn't. Agreeing on disagreeing?

Lol, sasukes a treasure chest and Im sure itachi had the key (naruto probably has it now). The kyuubis other half is the treasure for defeating madara. But, right now sasuke cant actually use the kyuubis other half exept for the bits of chakra that hes been using sense awakening the MS.Itachi said "I hope you don't have to use it". If the crow was the key, you just shot your theory on the foot, since Naruto must use the key if Sasuke is a Jinchuuriki too and, by your claims, Itachi knew it all. So Itachi either contradicted himself or he's just dumb. And since you say he's intelligent, he's just contradicting himself. Good work, KYF!

Hell no!! Ur Idea that no, its just hate is the stretch in a manga where big shit happens where u least expect it lol.

Whos on a high horse telling me the credibility of my theory when Im the one with all the evidence to support it while u have nothing, but ur bias, close minded oppinion.
So everything that everybody said to counterpoint your theory is not evidence? And you think just taking parts of the manga and completely forgetting others than contradict them is "evidence"?

You're the definition of bias and closed-mindedness, don't use those terms on others when you're the great offender here.

??? What theory did I make on what madara said??? Refresh my memory.Oh, so the short memory bit is confirmed. What a good thing to know. Just search your post history and you'll find it.

and ur the one claiming "hate" is all, nothing more despite the obvious that u keep ignoring. Humans hate<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<kyuubis hate!!!
Manga link saying that humans can't have deep hatred like the Kyuubi or your just throwing fan speculation disguised as faktz.

LMAO, so thats what ur so butt hurt about. If this turns out to be true then it really isnt sasukes fault hes gone psycho and just cant stand that idea can u lol. Grow up Num!!! Naruto saving sasuke from himself as well as the dark power that has taken control just makes for a more complex and intersting story IMO.So you're willing to give up a well developed "path to self-destruction" that Sasuke has to a "it's all Kyuubi's fault" with crying Sasuke playing as the innocent crying boy and having him have a sub-arc that is a carbon copy of Naruto vs Dark Naruto... wow, your tastes of "interesting story" sure aren't akin to mine.

No that symbol L stamped on ur head is a symbol. However, narutos whiskers clearly symbolize him as the foxes jink, thus the fox whiskers. And tobis swirling mask symbolizes the power that comes from the eye the mask is framing with such emphasis. And you, once again, don't know how to separate symbol from symbolism. Naruto has whiskers because he's the Jinchuuriki, and Madara has a spiral because it goes with his powers. Symbols. The Dark Chakra from Sasuke is symbolism of his descent to pure hatred and madness. See the difference? So don't mix them next time.

Lol, yea:confused:

Sasukes arsenal is fine, but the kyuubi like darkness karin mentioned is still there wether u like it or not.
And no I wasnt hating on naruto for having the kyuubi. I would point out the obvious that the kyuubi fought his fights for him when he couldnt control it, but that has clearly changed.Again, the double standards! Naruto resorting to the Kyuubi's power to win battles= BAD. Sasuke resorting to Kyuubi's power via MS to win battles= GOOD.

C'mon, have some decency!

Lol, and if u werent such a antisasuketard then u would be able to realise how plausible this theory is.

Think about it:

Naruto, with RS body+ half of the kyuubi

sasuke, with RS's eyes+ half the kyuubi!

Its obvious that the two halves will be rejoined eventually. However, they would be missing something to be anywhere near what the real RS could do unless yea, they both also had a half to the strongest of the 9 bijuu:rolleyes:

Lol, this must be so implausible:rolleyes:Naruto is not a Senju, there, wrecked your symbolism mix altogether! Just because one descends from the 1st and the other from the 2nd, they don't have to share everything! They are portrayed as two opposite entities, yin and yang, but that doesn't mean they should complete each other in everything. Thinking that is a fallacy.

Still ignoring the on going plot of the story. Sasuke and naruto are oppisites. Two halves to a greater thing. So, why would them both having two halves to yet another powerful thing be so unbelievable??
The end not always justify the means, mister. If that was Kishi's intent, he'd make Sasuke as Jinchuuriki more plausible, like having a Kyuubi seal on his stomach (and you'll go wha wha hidden, NO, that's not how seals roll) and having a clear Kyuubi chakra cloak (and again, wha wha hidden, you just can't admit it).

You're just indirectly calling Kishi a dumbass that can't do foreshadowing right just to make you happy. Guess what, mister, authors, when they create a big plot twist, make sure they don't contradict themselves. And if that's a plot twist that Kishi really wants to do, he already contradicted himself along the manga. Therefore, I'm led to not believe such atrocity and trust Kishi he won't remember to make that ass-pull so late on the road.

Yea, sasukes not ur favorite character so what are u bitching about. Sasukes become just as Important as naruto since the beginning of part two lol.And you just admitted your bias towards Sasuke. Good job!

And ur ignoring the fail logic of ur own statement. WHY would minato try to hide the kyuubi if it could be so easily found as to look at sasuke bare belly?? Lol, fail. Ur idea that minato cant possibly create a seal that the naked eye cant see is just the same old bias. Lol, its minato dude.
Why thank u, I can use ur own point to my advantage!!!

So why did Oro and tobi want itachi and sasuke so bad?? Perhaps they new the chakra had to be within one of them, after learning the truth of that night. Hell, kabuto still wants sasuke for some reason and since he knows tobis idenity. Its easy to believe he could of found out about sasuke being the treasure chest to the kyuubis other half.So first you praise Minato as the GOD OF SEALINGS (even if he learned them all from Kushina) and now you call him a dumbass that can't even keep a secret seal a secret... wow KYF, nice backstabbing on the characters whenever you please. Don't contradict yourself in CONSECUTIVE PARAGRAPHS!!!

Sorry for double post, 10000 characters limit reached

So u admit u refuse to accpet this theory as plausible because u just dont like it??
People shouldn't accept theories when themselves thought about them and deemed them implausible. Or else science wouldn't progress from the geocentric theory. Make a theory, suck up the critics and either make a more solid case or drop it. You still didn't make a more solid case, so drop it for your own sake.

Is that really all u have?? U know, if u actaully read my theory u would realise this isnt a power up for sasuke, but naruto u dense foel. For all ur insults about fanning ur fail to grasp that simple fact.Sorry, what? Yet another paradox? Good god, you really enjoy them!

If u wana know how naruto uses this power up then go read my other theory. I read it. It's a theory based on other already proven improbable theories. Not a solid case there, KYF.

Otherwise, keep ur "I just dont like it so it wont happen" Opinion to ur self and let the open mided discuss this.So you'll leave the discussion?! Good, we open-minded people will discuss it with pleasure, don't worry!

I just wanna point out that KYF stole my theory. if u recall http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59421
i had the same thread on this forum but i cant find it.
Ur welcome KYF. ur welcome
konaha only has one n b-t-dubz. yeahh u probally knew that

And you were ridiculed for that theory

All u did was make a crazy statement and show no evidence on someother forum I dont even go. However, I had this idea for a while (long before even this one)http://forums.narutocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1808126&postcount=18

Right after I came up with my "sasuke has the juubis chakra influnce theory" almost 6 months ago.

So no I didnt steal it.

And your are being ridiculed for this theory.



What conclusion can we make from this?

That your both wrong and 2 different (and completely separate) forums debunked this theory.

1.Sasuke does not know about the Kyuubi's chakra. (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/228/14/)

2.If he had the Kyuubi's chakra he would of talked to Kyuubi by now. (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/496/07/)

Hopefully that'll shut you up.

1.Sasuke does not know about the Kyuubi's chakra. (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/228/14/)

2.If he had the Kyuubi's chakra he would of talked to Kyuubi by now. (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/496/07/)

Hopefully that'll shut you up.

It won't, this thread and the others he recently did should prove that nothing will shut him up

Well, someone could be his buddy and take him to Hawaii for the summer. Then he'll shut up. Maybe.

It won't, this thread and the others he recently did should prove that nothing will shut him up

Well, someone could be his buddy and take him to Hawaii for the summer. Then he'll shut up. Maybe.

We can always tire him up and making him loop on the "Me rightz, u haterz". Then nobody will care and he'll shut up for a week or two.

Well, someone could be his buddy and take him to Hawaii for the summer. Then he'll shut up. Maybe.

Better not, I heard Myth is there on vacations.

I'm having doubts that he'll even stay quiet in death.

[QUOTE]And you keep going without actual evidences or good grammar for that matter. I show you an alternative explanation for those panels and you, instead of saying "well, it's something to think about, you might be right or wrong but good point"... no, you just dismiss it completely and call retards to whoever shows you things otherwise.

Lol, yea all those manga panels are for decoration:confused:

If u cant even acknowledge a manga as evidence then Im wasting my time. Granted most are up for interpretation, but they still support my theory through such interpretation wether u like it or not.

And I said thanks for supporting my other theory. That was me taking into consideration what u said thank u. Its u who have given no fair consideration due to ur bias against the idea of the theory.

Yeah, I totally know, Shii and Ao totally met Naruto... oh wait, THEY DIDN'T. So your point is rather stupid.

Who cares!!! Karin is still the best sensor so far by manga feats alone which u can take to the bank buddy.

Because I'm open-minded, I considered your theory, thought on how it'd work and disliked it, so made my counterpoint based on what I labeled wrong with your theory. Now you are the closed-minded one, that can't take a counterpoint and put up a shell to defend you from what everyone else has to say. You just dismiss everyone else's points as "bias" and "haterz". That won't get you anywhere, KYF.

Well, reading and comprehending are two different things num. U clearly didnt comprehend the fact I was presenting an Idea of sasuke merely being a vessle to hide the kyuubis other half, not for any use in combat making him NOT a real jink. But, u didnt even get that.

Then I try to explain that sasuke having the other half for hidding means minato meant for naruto to use it to defeat madara. Clearly sasuke will help, but its for naruto. Yet, u dont get that.

Just come criticize my theory after u get a reall grasp of the idea Im trying to present instead of seeing just "sasuke with the other half of the kyuubi" and start bitching about fan fapping lol.

*Sigh* You take things too literally and don't grasp symbolism. God forbid you to read a Lord Byron or a Eça de Queirós book, or else your brain will suffer from major meltdown.

Lol, u cant even grasp simple naruto symbolisms and ur criticizing me:confused: I bet that Hypocrisy tastes sweet from that pedestal.

I know we're on the same boat, but I'm not the one gloating about what I say has "100% faktz".

Well, manga panels count as fact and just because Im better at putting 2 and 2 together I wouldnt expect u to understand. Granted open for interpritation in some panels the plausibility of my idea is supported by those panels making it (the plausibility) 100% faktz!

Itachi said "I hope you don't have to use it". If the crow was the key, you just shot your theory on the foot, since Naruto must use the key if Sasuke is a Jinchuuriki too and, by your claims, Itachi knew it all. So Itachi either contradicted himself or he's just dumb. And since you say he's intelligent, he's just contradicting himself. Good work, KYF!

This is for everyone:

Think about it. The kyuubi tried to keep sasuke from killing naruto. WHY? And itachi came to naruto to make sure he wouldnt kill sasuke not matter what then gave him a power to use for sasukes sake. WHY??

Think about it. If 1 dies the other has to as well because that is balance, thus yin and yang!!!!

So everything that everybody said to counterpoint your theory is not evidence? And you think just taking parts of the manga and completely forgetting others than contradict them is "evidence"?

Opinions=facts? Seriously? Did myth put u up to this:confused:

You're the definition of bias and closed-mindedness, don't use those terms on others when you're the great offender here.

Oh really because I can honestly care if sasuke has it or not. However, because of current event, the idea is more then plausible at least which u wont admit because........ "me no likeeeey Idea"

Oh, so the short memory bit is confirmed. What a good thing to know. Just search your post history and you'll find it.

I said refresh my memory. If u cant provide proof then dont bring it up.

Manga link saying that humans can't have deep hatred like the Kyuubi or your just throwing fan speculation disguised as faktz.

Humans are fleshy meant bags with some hate. However, the kyuubi is a pure huge mass of the darkest hate known in the manga so far. These are factz!!!

Just show me a single panel of someone other then sasuke of a reference to madara of having such sinister/dark chakra???

So you're willing to give up a well developed "path to self-destruction" that Sasuke has to a "it's all Kyuubi's fault" with crying Sasuke playing as the innocent crying boy and having him have a sub-arc that is a carbon copy of Naruto vs Dark Naruto... wow, your tastes of "interesting story" sure aren't akin to mine.

Opinions, opinions num.....

And NO! The kyuubis chakra is taking over because sasuke has become such a hateful noob, letting madara push his button to get what he wants.

And you, once again, don't know how to separate symbol from symbolism. Naruto has whiskers because he's the Jinchuuriki, and Madara has a spiral because it goes with his powers. Symbols. The Dark Chakra from Sasuke is symbolism of his descent to pure hatred and madness. See the difference? So don't mix them next time.

Nope, naruto had whiskers before he was a jink. Madaras mask Ive already mention twice and yes, sasukes dark chakra COULD be symbolizing his hate/ragging chakra. However, hes always had that chakra so clearly theres more to it then that. and by comparison to the kyuubi, we can gain context for the possibility to sasuke having the other half of the kyuubi which u just refuse to admit.

Again, the double standards! Naruto resorting to the Kyuubi's power to win battles= BAD. Sasuke resorting to Kyuubi's power via MS to win battles= GOOD.

No, not resorting. Naruto being powerless to beat his enemy so he LETS the kyuubi take over which puts everyone around in danger just so someone else can take care of his problem for him.
Sasuke, if having the other half, has no idea is being influnced by the kyuubis chakra the more he masters the MS causing him to go from that grey area to the deep end of the black.

Thats the difference!


Naruto is not a Senju, there, wrecked your symbolism mix altogether! Just because one descends from the 1st and the other from the 2nd, they don't have to share everything! They are portrayed as two opposite entities, yin and yang, but that doesn't mean they should complete each other in everything. Thinking that is a fallacy.


Ha Haaaaaaa, its become the basic underline theme of the ENTIRE story!!! To deny that is delusional.......

The end not always justify the means, mister. If that was Kishi's intent, he'd make Sasuke as Jinchuuriki more plausible, like having a Kyuubi seal on his stomach (and you'll go wha wha hidden, NO, that's not how seals roll) and having a clear Kyuubi chakra cloak (and again, wha wha hidden, you just can't admit it).

Wheres the logic in that??? Kishi putting a jink seal on sasuke from the beginning revealing from day 1 hes a jink so not to have it be a twist in the end when defeating madara. Seriously, I know u have been working on ur own manga so u not to get this makes me fear its sake as a good manga.

You're just indirectly calling Kishi a dumbass that can't do foreshadowing right just to make you happy. Guess what, mister, authors, when they create a big plot twist, make sure they don't contradict themselves. And if that's a plot twist that Kishi really wants to do, he already contradicted himself along the manga. Therefore, I'm led to not believe such atrocity and trust Kishi he won't remember to make that ass-pull so late on the road.

Thats ur opinion as bias as it is. saying Im calling kishi stupid because I believe he couldve actaully made sasuke a null jink, hiding the kyuubis other half for naruto to beat madara. Geez, hows the air up there on that pedistal. I have a right to my damn opinion just as u yet Im not going to insult the author just because he might do something I dont agree with.

And you just admitted your bias towards Sasuke. Good job!

I like sasuke better then naruto yes. But naruto has no real speed or use or awesome tactics. Until naruto gets the FTG and some intellect upgrade hes just not my kind of character as a shinobi.

So first you praise Minato as the GOD OF SEALINGS (even if he learned them all from Kushina) and now you call him a dumbass that can't even keep a secret seal a secret... wow KYF, nice backstabbing on the characters whenever you please. Don't contradict yourself in CONSECUTIVE PARAGRAPHS!!!
LMAO, is this whats its come to?? Putting words in my mouth!!! LMAO!

I never called him a dumbass u just seem to take everything I say out of context including my underline concept of this theory. If this is all ur going to do is bash me then go ahead. However, u CANT disprove the PLAUSIBILITY of my idea since its supported so well by the current events of the manga.

Again, Bring some manga panels, stop attacking my character to try disprove the plausibility of an idea of a fictional story.

If sasuke had the other half of kyubi's chakra he would have been hunted by now. Also it would make minato a damn fortune teller...for him to know that sasuke's clan would all be murdered and itachi would spare sasuke and sasuke and naruto would become friends, and sasuke would survive oro's plight...no matter how many facts you throw at me they still do not add up to sasuke having the other half of the kyubi's chakra...Minato was a beast but damn he wasn’t a fortune teller (at least I don’t he was).

You should know we showed him undeniable facts but he still denies it =/

If Sasuke has part of the Kyuubi's chakra, than any originally left in Naruto's character has just gone down the toilet (considering the Kyuubi is a defining characteristic of Naruto's struggle throughout the manga). Not to mention Kishi has to come up with a reason for why there's been no indication from anyone that Sasuke has part of the Kyuubi within him. And of all people why seal it into a newborn 'Uchiha', who has zero connection to himself?

I'd think the Minato sealed the other half inside Uchiha Sasuke cause in 500 and 501 they shown Sasuke as a baby with young Itachi.

I'd asked this questions on an other forum. A person said, "I didn't really think she would have kyuubi, but I can see how it would work, if the two 'halves' of kyuubi are exact opposites....

Instead of massive amounts of chakra from the kyuubi half that Naruto has, the jinchuuriki of the other half of the kyuubi gains massive amounts of chakra control. Instead of lounging around in the jail in his host's stomach and being revealed only after the host goes looking for him, the other half of the kyuubi constantly stays with his host, taking on her form to hide himself. Instead of being taken inside a male host, it goes inside a female host. And so on, and so forth....

I think it's rather improbable (especially given Kishimoto's past dismissal of Sakura's parentage as being anything of import) that Sakura would be taken as the 'other' host of the kyuubi, should the beast have been split in two on purpose, but I can see a scenario where it could happen. Just as I see a scenario where the death god ate the other half of the kyuubi, and just as I've seen a scenario where Madara has the other half of the kyuubi trapped already....

We may find out soon enough, though... or we may never find out. Who knows what secrets Kishimoto intends to leave unrevealed at the conclusion of the manga? (Which brings to mind the possibility that the other half of the kyuubi is in someone who hasn't been revealed, yet -- while the current major story arc appears to be nearing its conclusion, leaving questions like "what happened to the other half of the kyuubi?" will allow him to keep the manga going for quite some time, which (if the quote I've seen attributed to him that he wants to keep the manga going as long as people are still interested, and\or if the other quote attributed to him where he says he wants to take it to the next generation, are true) would probably be a good idea. "

People apparently forgot that MINATO SEALED HALF OF THE KYUUBI'S CHAKRA IN THE DEATH GOD'S STOMACH WITH HIMSELF!

What I don't understand is how can Minato "supposedly" seal the yin chakra in Sasuke if him and Naruto weren't even next to each other during the sealing process.

People apparently forgot that MINATO SEALED HALF OF THE KYUUBI'S CHAKRA IN THE DEATH GOD'S STOMACH WITH HIMSELF!

That can easily be debated though, if a piece of Minato is in Naruto then obviously the death god seal has some if's and's or but's in the contract lol.

What I don't understand is how can Minato "supposedly" seal the yin chakra in Sasuke if him and Naruto weren't even next to each other during the sealing process.

That will be revealed in the next chapter, this is all hypothetical, just like my theory on Itachi is, but if the Uchiha can sense the Kyuubi chakra or anything like that, then its obvious Sasuke's mom would rush to check on Kushina, and since it seemed like Minato took them both to their home, its possible they went there to check on her and during this whole chaos Minato returned to do the sealing and sealed the other half in an Uchiha.

People apparently forgot that MINATO SEALED HALF OF THE KYUUBI'S CHAKRA IN THE DEATH GOD'S STOMACH WITH HIMSELF!

Gee, I missed that manga panel?? I dont remember minato saying that. Only Jman who clearly doesnt KNOW what really happened, thus his suspicion about the kyuubi attack not being a natural disaster wouldnt just be a theory because its canonz it wasnt now.

Clearly Jman doesnt know what actaully happened which we are about to find out in the next couple weeks.

Ok, if Kishi proves you wrong...again, are you going stop posting these bullshit theories that have already been proven wrong?

Whats wrong with posting a theory thats not accutare?




If Sasuke has part of the Kyuubi's chakra, than any originally left in Naruto's character has just gone down the toilet (considering the Kyuubi is a defining characteristic of Naruto's struggle throughout the manga). Not to mention Kishi has to come up with a reason for why there's been no indication from anyone that Sasuke has part of the Kyuubi within him. And of all people why seal it into a newborn 'Uchiha', who has zero connection to himself?

If he did.. perhaps he didn't have that mutch time to think about it.

Minato sealed Kyuubi to prevent the guy in the mask from using it to destroy Konoha. Madara saw through everything Minato did, and Minato knew he was a special ninja. Minato knew that when he died, nobody in Konoha would be able to prevent this guy from getting to his son if he couldnt defeat this guy. Minato had to seal half of it where Madara could not hope to reunite them again, and call forth Kyuubi again. Death God's belly is the safest place to hide something from the man that sees through everything. I would think that hiding 1 half in Sasuke would just make Madara kidnap Sasuke and Naruto and extract both and combining the chakra. Maybe Madara cannot control Kyuubi inside a jinjuriki without Kyuubi's yin and yang and that's why Minato sealed half away, otherwise, what would stop Madara from doing that again not that his only threat has died.

Oh lord, the "Neutral Trio" (that's my nickname for Jeanricuser, Platinumrug and TSO) said that you are wrong. You can't have a more non-biased opinion than theirs. And they are against you. Sweet!

Also, I'd like to link you this video about open-mindedness. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI)

If you still think that we're closed-minded and you're the open-minded, re-watch it. And again, and again and again, until that brains of yours makes the click.

I'm tired of these games of you not grasping simple literary devices, taking themes to the extreme, not admitting your bias towards Sasuke, ignoring others' evidence and calling people haters. It's like arguing with a 10-year old, except they aren't so stubborn and repetitive. I really doubt you could read literature with heavier symbolism than Naruto, or else you'd see purple all over it. Even my manga is heavy on symbolism... I just hope none of my possible fans go nuts over it.

Speaking of my manga, I think there's a good way to evaluate one's line of thought and assimilation of symbolism.



A and B are best friends
A asks B for a drink
B gives him a drink
The glass with the drink has the drawing of an almond engraved on it.

Anyone can have their try on this case, since you can't possibly be biased, just PM me with your thoughts and I'll NOT evaluate how close you were to the truth, but I'll consider the line of though (I know, I know, KYF will call me biased but whatever :rolleyes: you're not less or more than the others). Links to where did you come up with the ideas are advised and anyone can participate.

I'm really curious on your thoughts on this, guys ;).

Seriously, this shit gotta stop. The YIN part remained in Kusina when the kyuubi was unsealed from her. There u are.

Case close, court rise.

Seriously, this shit gotta stop. The YIN part remained in Kusina when the kyuubi was unsealed from her. There u are.

Case close, court rise.

How? When? Proof?

That's actually a plausible theory though. Now that we know Kushina was with Naruto, was a past Jinchuriki, and Minato was skilled in seal usage.

I'm just saying, it's a lot more plausible than it being in Sasuke Uchihawhodestroyedkonoha.

How? When? Proof?

The only how when proof I can think of is in manga

Naruto 485-486, where it seems Naruto notice something different about Sasuke, this could be becoz he can sense chakra using Sage Mode...

Need to disect these 2 chapters at a later date

Oh lord, the "Neutral Trio" (that's my nickname for Jeanricuser, Platinumrug and TSO) said that you are wrong. You can't have a more non-biased opinion than theirs. And they are against you. Sweet!

Also, I'd like to link you this video about open-mindedness. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI)

If you still think that we're closed-minded and you're the open-minded, re-watch it. And again, and again and again, until that brains of yours makes the click.

I'm tired of these games of you not grasping simple literary devices, taking themes to the extreme, not admitting your bias towards Sasuke, ignoring others' evidence and calling people haters. It's like arguing with a 10-year old, except they aren't so stubborn and repetitive. I really doubt you could read literature with heavier symbolism than Naruto, or else you'd see purple all over it. Even my manga is heavy on symbolism... I just hope none of my possible fans go nuts over it.

Speaking of my manga, I think there's a good way to evaluate one's line of thought and assimilation of symbolism.



A and B are best friends
A asks B for a drink
B gives him a drink
The glass with the drink has the drawing of an almond engraved on it.

Anyone can have their try on this case, since you can't possibly be biased, just PM me with your thoughts and I'll NOT evaluate how close you were to the truth, but I'll consider the line of though (I know, I know, KYF will call me biased but whatever :rolleyes: you're not less or more than the others). Links to where did you come up with the ideas are advised and anyone can participate.

I'm really curious on your thoughts on this, guys ;).

Are u serious?? Did I get to u that much u would actually attack my character with such conviction over a game of naruto theory debate, AKA, Trivial fucking PURSUIT:rolleyes:

I already admitted I liked sasuke more then naruto and gave my reason. However, ur clearly not reading my posts because I know ur too damn smart to miss something that simple. So, this begs to question why are going through so much trouble to criticize me when u wont even take the time to at least read my posts. Honestly num, this is alittle low for u buddy:confused:

BOT: Like I said, attacking my character instead of actually trying to prove my theory wrong with manga panels that can at least suggest in some interpretation besides (hate is hate nothing more) that I have mad e mistake.

Like here, Let me continue to exspand my theory with even more evidence. Watch and learn.

So, why would the kyuubi not want sasuke to kill naruto as if it would cause him serious problemshttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/06/
And why would even itachi make sure that no matter what, naruto wouldnt kill sasuke which is why he gave him a certain "power" to aid him in saving sasuke.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/08/

Itachi clearly wanted to make sure naruto wouldnt try to kill sasuke and if the day came when he attacked konaha, naruto could use this power to help stop him.

And more coorelation to the crow naruto deep throated being a key to the other half of the kyuubi which itachi gave to naruto.

Heres a real key given to help naruto seal and unseal the kyuubi for use.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/07/
With the frog being naruto animal of summon, its fitting his key be a frog that goes down the throat for safe keeping.
However, sasukes animal of summoning is a bird and guess what itachi just happen to shove into narutos throat to help sasuke from the comsuming dark chakra that has driven him to want to destroy the whole village, not just its elders.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/08/

Look at it with ur open mind:

The crow is an animal that goes down the throat just like the frog key, but its sasuke and itahcis summoning animal which means it could only be for one of them and with itachi dead and sasuke flipping out from dark chakra that karin compared to the kyuubi, do the math.

And the tape still goes on, what else is new?! You might want to switch to side B, KYF, side A had already many re-runs.

I don't think you're that stupid to think we don't listen to what we have to say, but you clearly haven't seen the video I linked or else you'd restrain from yet again play the victim card, ignore the evidence the other people brought and calling people haters.

Sorry, my patience has reached its limits to simply immature arguments that want to evangelize people. If that's not your intent, you should really rethink how you post, because that's the impression that I'm getting and probably many others too. I apologize if I came too aggressive, but I dislike my intelligence being insulted.

Also:

Speaking of my manga, I think there's a good way to evaluate one's line of thought and assimilation of symbolism.



A and B are best friends
A asks B for a drink
B gives him a drink
The glass with the drink has the drawing of an almond engraved on it.

Anyone can have their try on this case, since you can't possibly be biased, just PM me with your thoughts and I'll NOT evaluate how close you were to the truth, but I'll consider the line of though (I know, I know, KYF will call me biased but whatever :rolleyes: you're not less or more than the others). Links to where did you come up with the ideas are advised and anyone can participate.

I'm really curious on your thoughts on this, guys ;).

I think it'd be fun to see how people think.

[QUOTE]And the tape still goes on, what else is new?! You might want to switch to side B, KYF, side A had already many re-runs.

I don't think you're that stupid to think we don't listen to what we have to say, but you clearly haven't seen the video I linked or else you'd restrain from yet again play the victim card, ignore the evidence the other people brought and calling people haters.

Random oppinons=manga facts now num. again, did myth put u up to this???

Im not playing the victim, Im just pointing out the obvious which is u dont read my posts. Otherwise u wouldnt be criticizing me about things Ive already explained to u. U posting a youtube video isnt going rpove anything about my theory or me.

Quit doing th turkey shuffle posting random nonsense to try and cover up for the fact u have no way to disprove the plausibility of my theory.

Sorry, my patience has reached its limits to simply immature arguments that want to evangelize people. If that's not your intent, you should really rethink how you post, because that's the impression that I'm getting and probably many others too. I apologize if I came too aggressive, but I dislike my intelligence being insulted.

Well, not that I personaly think ur slow or anything, but u clearly are turning a blind eye to evidence i post just because u dont like the idea of my theory. So, how about no more insults. Just good old fashioned debating, hunh?

Also:



I think it'd be fun to see how people think.

OK, but how about u tell me what u think about the new evidence I presented linking the key frog and crow power itachi gave to naruto???

Random oppinons=manga facts now num. again, did myth put u up to this???



Hold on, mister, you must miss Myth because I don't exchange a word with him since ages ago.

And yet again, I have to say that myself and many others posted evidence, you just ignored them. It's not my fault that you don't deem them as evidence, as I don't deem your "evidence" as evidence. But don't say we didn't post manga panels within our observations, because we did.

Im not playing the victim, Im just pointing out the obvious which is u dont read my posts. Otherwise u wouldnt be criticizing me about things Ive already explained to u. U posting a youtube video isnt going rpove anything about my theory or me. And that's why you should watch the video, to educate yourself and improve your debating skills. It doesn't need to be Naruto-related to help you in a Naruto debate.

Quit doing th turkey shuffle posting random nonsense to try and cover up for the fact u have no way to disprove the plausibility of my theory.
Do you even read that when you wrote it? And you want people to empathize with your theory when you just deny that the opposite can't happen?

Accept critics like everyone, that'll make you more mature debate-wise.

Well, not that I personaly think ur slow or anything, but u clearly are turning a blind eye to evidence i post just because u dont like the idea of my theory. So, how about no more insults. Just good old fashioned debating, hunh?Sorry if I can't hold my insults, but sometimes you deserve them big time for insulting people's intelligence.

I admitted your evidence, mentally processed it to match with what I know of the manga, deemed it improbable. I don't have to accept your theory just because you desperately want it so. As you don't have to accept my counterpoint, but at least admit it as an alternative and don't dismiss it as bias or hate. It only makes you look more childish.

OK, but how about u tell me what u think about the new evidence I presented linking the key frog and crow power itachi gave to naruto???You found an animal theme that slightly strengthens your point, but not enough to blip on my "probable" radar, hurray?

[QUOTE]Hold on, mister, you must miss Myth because I don't exchange a word with him since ages ago.


that was a joke captain serious:cool:

And yet again, I have to say that myself and many others posted evidence, you just ignored them. It's not my fault that you don't deem them as evidence, as I don't deem your "evidence" as evidence. But don't say we didn't post manga panels within our observations, because we did.

What evidence?? The fact that sasuke doesnt have seal on his stomache, he cant possibly have the other hidden. Agian, hidden being the key word here which u and so many others are getting.

Providing illogical evidence like "no seal on tummy despite the fact hiding something means to keep out of SIGHT". Thats not very good evidence num.

And that's why you should watch the video, to educate yourself and improve your debating skills. It doesn't need to be Naruto-related to help you in a Naruto debate.

Debating skillz??? Im the one using atcaul manga panels to support my idea while u and so many others just bitch and rant providing nothing, but ur Opinions. And since Opinions dont=facts, they dont count as evidence without some manga panel to at least back it up.

Do you even read that when you wrote it? And you want people to empathize with your theory when you just deny that the opposite can't happen?


Yet again u prove u dont read my posts. I already stated a couple times I could care less if this comes to pass or the latter does. However, the coorelation of evidence suggest this idea of very much plausible.

Accept critics like everyone, that'll make you more mature debate-wise.

Opinion opinions lol.

Sorry if I can't hold my insults, but sometimes you deserve them big time for insulting people's intelligence.

Sure, because my insults were completely unprovoked lol:rolleyes:

I admitted your evidence, mentally processed it to match with what I know of the manga, deemed it improbable. I don't have to accept your theory just because you desperately want it so. As you don't have to accept my counterpoint, but at least admit it as an alternative and don't dismiss it as bias or hate. It only makes you look more childish.

Again, not reading my post because I admitted the plausibility of the idea u suggested a while ago. However, it is u whos hiding behind cloak of an abused victim who just really hates the idea so much he cant even admit the plausibiltiy despite the overwhelming evidence supposrting it.

And I could care less if u accept it or not.

You found an animal theme that slightly strengthens your point, but not enough to blip on my "probable" radar, hurray?

Lol, yea, I think ur radar might be a little cloudy:cool:

Sasuke might have bigger role in Kyuube attack, That's why Kishi showed him in last chapter. I wouldn't be surprise if the person who defeated Tobi was Sasuke alone! hell yeah!

Lalalila, that theory is worse than KYF's. At the time of that attack, Sasuke was an infant. There's no way in hell he could do it.

Lalalila, that theory is worse than KYF's. At the time of that attack, Sasuke was an infant. There's no way in hell he could do it.

Yes he can because he's Sasuke =D

KYF, my patience has run out to point out the stupidity of your answers... you know you can insult somebody's intelligent without any literal insults, right? And that last post of yours just insults people's intelligence without a drop of a curse word. My stomach can't handle debating with a person that thinks he can debate, but he does nothing but to try to shovel his thoughts to the others like he possessed all the truth in this world.

I tried to change topic to save me some precious patience and even called other people to bring fresh air into the debate, but you just smother people. You just can't fathom to believe that other people are entitled to not agree with your theory (even if you say " I could care less", then what is all debacle for?).

So, KYF, just hold your horses and wait for the flashback to end. If you are right, I'll just stop reading this manga. If you are wrong, you'll fall into ridicule. Either way, I win, so I don't have to spend my neurons feeding your ego.

I don't really like to spam, but I really wanted some collaboration from you, guys:

Speaking of my manga, I think there's a good way to evaluate one's line of thought and assimilation of symbolism.



A and B are best friends
A asks B for a drink
B gives him a drink
The glass with the drink has the drawing of an almond engraved on it.

Anyone can have their try on this case, since you can't possibly be biased, just PM me with your thoughts and I'll NOT evaluate how close you were to the truth, but I'll consider the line of though (I know, I know, KYF will call me biased but whatever :rolleyes: you're not less or more than the others). Links to where did you come up with the ideas are advised and anyone can participate.

I'm really curious on your thoughts on this, guys ;).

Lalalila, that theory is worse than KYF's. At the time of that attack, Sasuke was an infant. There's no way in hell he could do it.

Hah... typical mistake for those who underestimate Sasuke, He might be a babe but it's Sasuke.

The only how when proof I can think of is in manga

Naruto 485-486, where it seems Naruto notice something different about Sasuke, this could be becoz he can sense chakra using Sage Mode...

Need to disect these 2 chapters at a later date

Naruto wasn't in Sage Mode at the time...

KYF, answer these questions about Sasuke, and literally answer them and try to present some proof to them, not criticize me for tearing apart your theory...

1. Why does Sasuke not have a seal?
1b. Why not hide the seal that Naruto has, since you are going to say it is hidden.
2. Why hide the Kyuubi chakra in Sasuke?
2b. Why not hide the chakra in Naruto?
2c. Why not hide the chakra in both?
3. Why has the Kyuubi not made contact with Sasuke, and why has Sasuke not used the Kyuubi chakra?
3b. If Minato did something to keep the Kyuubi chakra at bay inside Sasuke, why did he not do it for Naruto? And if the Kyuubi is hidden in Sasuke why would he not hide it in Naruto ( Thank you Ninjalostboy)!

Your whole theory is based on this crazy idea that Minato hid chakra inside Sasuke, when he could have done the same thing with Naruto and avoided causing his son any kind of suffering. You are saying he wanted his son to suffer when he could have prevented it, if he could have kept the Kyuubi chakra at bay inside of Sasuke, and hid any signs of it, why not give it to his son and let him carry the Kyuubi while keeping it hidden?

The 3rd one I asked him and he said "because it's hidden.That's why Sasuke didn't talk to Kyuubi.

[QUOTE]KYF, answer these questions about Sasuke, and literally answer them and try to present some proof to them, not criticize me for tearing apart your theory...

Tearing apart? All u did was try and take my theory and put itachis name infront of without presenting a single manga panel to support ur idea.

1. Why does Sasuke not have a seal?
1b. Why not hide the seal that Naruto has, since you are going to say it is hidden.

Seriously!!! If minatos intention was to HIDE the kyuubis other half then a visible seal on sasukes stomache wouldnt be a very good Idea now would it??

And naruto being able to use the kyuubis power is exactly what minato told him. "for his protection". With minato, kushina and the third old as dirt and deaths door no one would there to help naruto so the kyuubis power was a means to that end as well as defeating madara/tobi.

2. Why hide the Kyuubi chakra in Sasuke?
2b. Why not hide the chakra in Naruto?

Sasuke couldve been near by with itachi as it seems he will be when he was sealing the kyuubis two halves of its chakra. And minato made a split decision to hide half in an uchiha since its chakra shouldnt be able to be detected like in a nonuchiha because, http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/

The chakras are so similar!!! Think about it. Hiding the kyuubis chakra in naruto is like hiding oil in water (pure spirit). U cant. It can be seen easily. However, hididng oil in oil (dark spirit) is unseen.

And I already explained why not hiding it in naruto.

This also give reason for itachi making sasuke what he is today. The more sasuke hates, the more hes able to hide the other half of the chakra hidden within him. I mean why else would a brother make his most beloved such a moster without such a reason??


3. Why has the Kyuubi not made contact with Sasuke, and why has Sasuke not used the Kyuubi chakra?

Theres been no contact because the power is hidden!!! Sasuke not a jink in my theory, only a hiding spot.

And sasukes going crazy and gaining the darkest of chakra that has been compared to narutos kyuubis chakra by karin isnt "some evidence of use". Read the reply I gave SK a couple pages back. That should have enough links with which to satisfy ur curiosity about this point of my theory.

3b. If Minato did something to keep the Kyuubi chakra at bay inside Sasuke, why did he not do it for Naruto? And if the Kyuubi is hidden in Sasuke why would he not hide it in Naruto ( Thank you Ninjalostboy)!

U just asked again the same questions I already answered.

Your whole theory is based on this crazy idea that Minato hid chakra inside Sasuke, when he could have done the same thing with Naruto and avoided causing his son any kind of suffering. You are saying he wanted his son to suffer when he could have prevented it, if he could have kept the Kyuubi chakra at bay inside of Sasuke, and hid any signs of it, why not give it to his son and let him carry the Kyuubi while keeping it hidden?

1. Minato had to of known minato would seal the kyuubi in an uzikai and with naruto being the only living one. Yea!!!

2. Narutos suffering has made him the shinobi is wether u want to believe it or not. Minato mustve known that in order for his son to pull of what he couldnt. His son would have to be able to UNDERSTAND true pain to be able to save a ninja wolrd desperat;y in need of a savior to help other people TRUELY UNDERSTAND one another.

Sigh!!!

Lets break it down for those who just want to bitch about the theory without reading.

1. Kishi has presented naruto and sasuke as two halves to a whole in many different ways. RS: naruto body, sasuke eyes. Naruto good, sasuke evil. So why, why wouldnt naruto with yin half and sasuke with yang for defeating madara not be plausible??

2. Madara has fucked both sasuke and naruto so both have to defeat him so working together seems the only way that can be done, thus both join together with theyre power and own his ass.

3. Did u ever give any real thought to why itachi might have spared his brother and killed his clan. If sasuke truly does have the yang half of the kyuubi, his clan found out and wanted to use it and sasuke to defeat the senju then itachi would have a true motive. Itachi protecting his brother and the village from another kyuubi attack at the death of his clan sounds more plausible then the super intelligent itachi let himself be dunced into killing his own clan without a peace talk first:rolleyes:

Most of u people look at this manga as if it was black and white with no grey area which is rediculous considering everything that has happened so far.

A quote for the open minded Impaired. "Like a true shinobi, In kishis manga, not everything is what it seems..............."

I agree with what KYF said!

[QUOTE=krurk;1836972]

Tearing apart? All u did was try and take my theory and put itachis name infront of without presenting a single manga panel to support ur idea.

Uh, I named several parts of the manga where my theory applies, unlike you, who does not back up anything except with name calling, so once again, you are wrong.
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Seriously!!! If minatos intention was to HIDE the kyuubis other half then a visible seal on sasukes stomache wouldnt be a very good Idea now would it??

Okay, how does he HIDE the chakra GENIUS, what MANGA EVIDENCE do you have that shows someone can HIDE something in someone else?

And naruto being able to use the kyuubis power is exactly what minato told him. "for his protection". With minato, kushina and the third old as dirt and deaths door no one would there to help naruto so the kyuubis power was a means to that end as well as defeating madara/tobi.

So because no one is there to help Naruto, you put an evil creature inside of him, and risk the evil creature over running him, thats not protection you fool, that is called stupidity.

Sasuke couldve been near by with itachi as it seems he will be when he was sealing the kyuubis two halves of its chakra. And minato made a split decision to hide half in an uchiha since its chakra shouldnt be able to be detected like in a nonuchiha because, http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/

Where in the Manga does it say there chakra is similiar? Where does it say because the Kyuubi chakra is in an Uchiha its undetectable? You are making facts up, so therefore you are wrong AGAIN.

The chakras are so similar!!! Think about it. Hiding the kyuubis chakra in naruto is like hiding oil in water (pure spirit). U cant. It can be seen easily. However, hididng oil in oil (dark spirit) is unseen.

The chakra is not similiar you fool, once again, present me with evidence that says it is, NOTHING and i mean NOTHING is as evil and dark as the Kyuubi chakra, you continue to make things up, clearly you are guessing at this theory and can not accept when you are wrong, how old are you 5?

And I already explained why not hiding it in naruto.

So he doesn't hide the chakra in Naruto to keep people away from trying to kidnap Naruto? Why can't he hide the chakra in Naruto and Naruto can not communicate with the Kyuubi? How do you hide chakra in someone again? I mean you need to SEAL it inside for it to work! Therefore Sasuke does not have it because there is no SEAL, you have the IQ of a mentally retarded child.

This also give reason for itachi making sasuke what he is today. The more sasuke hates, the more hes able to hide the other half of the chakra hidden within him. I mean why else would a brother make his most beloved such a moster without such a reason??

He made him a monster so he would get stronger and then he told him WHAT REALLY HAPPENED and Sasuke DID NOT BELIEVE him, therefore, he did not try to MAKE him a monster, he tried to MAKE HIM STRONGER, please read the manga before you comment on the forum.


Theres been no contact because the power is hidden!!! Sasuke not a jink in my theory, only a hiding spot.

HOW IS IT HIDDEN?!?!!? FACTS?!!??! Thats right, you don't have any.

And sasukes going crazy and gaining the darkest of chakra that has been compared to narutos kyuubis chakra by karin isnt "some evidence of use". Read the reply I gave SK a couple pages back. That should have enough links with which to satisfy ur curiosity about this point of my theory.

Dude you aren't giving any facts you fool, you are trying to manipulate facts to support your theory, She said Sasuke's chakra is dark, but not darker than the Kyuubi, you are extending it to that, everything you have said is a manipulation, Itachi tried to stop Sasuke from being manipulated by Madara, go back and read!

U just asked again the same questions I already answered.

fool, you avoid questions you can't answer.

1. Minato had to of known minato would seal the kyuubi in an uzikai and with naruto being the only living one. Yea!!!

That makes NO sense you FOOL, why wouldn't he hide both chakra's in both people and freaking keep the Kyuubi from ever coming out again since your bologna theory has him hiding one half and it NEVER coming into play, there is no way Minato KNEW Sasuke's chakra was SO DARK, you...are...a....fool.

2. Narutos suffering has made him the shinobi is wether u want to believe it or not. Minato mustve known that in order for his son to pull of what he couldnt. His son would have to be able to UNDERSTAND true pain to be able to save a ninja wolrd desperat;y in need of a savior to help other people TRUELY UNDERSTAND one another. You avoided all questions to not give a true legit answer to this question, i asked 4 different questions that you could not answer, therefore your theory is majorly flawed, well thats simply because you are a fool.


READ BOLDED PARTS. PUT FACTS IN YOUR THEORY AND STOP MANIPULATING FACTS AND SAYING THEY ARE RIGHT, YOU HAVE NOT PRESENTED ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR THEORY UNLESS YOU MADE IT WORK FOR YOU.

Krurk- No point in arguing with him. And Karin didn't say that the Sasuke has darker chakra than him, no. The Kyuubi (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/) said so himself. In no way do I agree with him, but he's convinced his theories are correct. We are just going to have to wait and see.

Sasuke doesn't have the other half. I speak the truth, if you don't believe me than look at my Tobi=Madara. I'm always right at these things it's like I have forsight or more like common sense for me.

READ BOLDED PARTS. PUT FACTS IN YOUR THEORY AND STOP MANIPULATING FACTS AND SAYING THEY ARE RIGHT, YOU HAVE NOT PRESENTED ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR THEORY UNLESS YOU MADE IT WORK FOR YOU.

This is a pain in the ass!


Uh, I named several parts of the manga where my theory applies, unlike you, who does not back up anything except with name calling, so once again, you are wrong.
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WTF, are u blind!!! What are all those manga panels I posted then?? Glow words?? LMAO!

All u did was suggest something from manga panels without actually posting the panels to give other people a chance to look at and judge for themselves. Thats not how u present a theory buddy. And if thats what u consider evidence then u should take ur self to narutofan.

Okay, how does he HIDE the chakra GENIUS, what MANGA EVIDENCE do you have that shows someone can HIDE something in someone else?

Uum IDK, perhaps these two

1http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/07/

The frog key is a living frog attached to a scroll made by minato. And since its a fuuin jutsu it has to have its own chakra yet Jman doesnt draw upon it ever until he did his hand signs which called forth the fuuin/summoning jutsu.

2http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/08/
Now unlike the fuuin frog, the crow naruto deep throated is itachis power yet naruto doesnt have a SG, any affinity to fire, ect. Its clearly a power sealed in him and cant be used until its meant to be used just like what I purpose with the other half of the kyuubsi chakra in sasuke.

So because no one is there to help Naruto, you put an evil creature inside of him, and risk the evil creature over running him, thats not protection you fool, that is called stupidity.

Well minato did it lol. What u just said is why he got punched in the stomache by naruto, but narutos suffering and lonliness will pay off when madaras stopped with that powers help.

Where in the Manga does it say there chakra is similiar? Where does it say because the Kyuubi chakra is in an Uchiha its undetectable? You are making facts up, so therefore you are wrong AGAIN.

Im sorry, but u ask me why I insult the fuck out of and this is why. The very question u just asked has the answer in the link directly above ur ignorant pointless question. lol. Here Ill post it again.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/

And just in case, 1 more timehttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/

and just in case Ill read it for ya. Kyuubi "chakra more sinister then my OWN"!!!!

We understand???


So he doesn't hide the chakra in Naruto to keep people away from trying to kidnap Naruto? Why can't he hide the chakra in Naruto and Naruto can not communicate with the Kyuubi? How do you hide chakra in someone again? I mean you need to SEAL it inside for it to work! Therefore Sasuke does not have it because there is no SEAL, you have the IQ of a mentally retarded child.

Lol, Yea, Im just sitting here slobbering and slapping my chest while watching Tim and Eric yet I still have to point out shinny words, concepts and the use of manga panels to you though. Lol!!!!

And again, Jman had no mark on him yet he clearly had another power sealed in him (key frog) and naruto has no new seals on him yet he has itachis power in him now. Seriously, try to keep up.

He made him a monster so he would get stronger and then he told him WHAT REALLY HAPPENED and Sasuke DID NOT BELIEVE him, therefore, he did not try to MAKE him a monster, he tried to MAKE HIM STRONGER, please read the manga before you comment on the forum.

That makes no sense. Itachi wasnt a moster yet he was above the damn seenin by the time he was 18. And since the manga isnt over yet theres still room for other reasons why itachi made sasuke hate so much and my theory is one them wether u like it or not.

And no, u read the manga and stop posting ur opinion as manga fact.

Dude you aren't giving any facts you fool, you are trying to manipulate facts to support your theory, She said Sasuke's chakra is dark, but not darker than the Kyuubi, you are extending it to that, everything you have said is a manipulation, Itachi tried to stop Sasuke from being manipulated by Madara, go back and read!

Oh Im sorry, so she didnt say thishttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/
"theres another chakra deep inside. Its dark, its like......"

How do u get context to such a statement? IDK, may by this!

Herehttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/15/

Its been compared to Curse mark level 2 chakra at its early stage of use.

However, by the endhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/484/09/

By this point its as dark as narutos kyuubi power. And since karin hasnt sensed anyone else dark chakra then she was clearly comparing sasukes shes been feeling to the kyuubis.

Put 2 and 2 together Buddy.

That makes NO sense you FOOL, why wouldn't he hide both chakra's in both people and freaking keep the Kyuubi from ever coming out again since your bologna theory has him hiding one half and it NEVER coming into play, there is no way Minato KNEW Sasuke's chakra was SO DARK, you...are...a....fool.

Lol This is u in the middle ages.

Gallaayo (sp): "the earth isnt flat and the earth isnt the center of the universe"

Christian Krurk: "lol, That makes no sense. What an Idiot. Lets stone him to death because my bias febble mind cant comprehend something someone else can"

Lol!!

Again, the Uchihas are the cursed clan with dark chakra. With exeption to itachi, but his chakra might of still been pretty dark thanks to his KKG.

LMAOOO dude, can you read? can you read? i said stop manipulating fact to support your reasoning, and two panels about Naruto and NOT SASUKE is going to really make a difference.

This is you in the middle ages

KYF: I know everything and you are all wrong

Soldiers: He is a psycho, kill him!

No he just loves fapping to Sasuke.

Oh goody. I think I'll play this time.

This is a pain in the ass!

Same for us because you don't listen to a damn thing we've been saying.

WTF, are u blind!!! What are all those manga panels I posted then?? Glow words?? LMAO!

You post panels, but only use half of what's on them for your evidence when the other half fits our counter-arguments.

All u did was suggest something from manga panels without actually posting the panels to give other people a chance to look at and judge for themselves. Thats not how u present a theory buddy. And if thats what u consider evidence then u should take ur self to narutofan.

You've said this to several others when we have posted panels. Yet you ignored the panels and claimed that isn't what kishi wrote, when it was what he wrote.

Uum IDK, perhaps these two

1http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/07/

The frog key is a living frog attached to a scroll made by minato. And since its a fuuin jutsu it has to have its own chakra yet Jman doesnt draw upon it ever until he did his hand signs which called forth the fuuin/summoning jutsu.

He's summoning the frog. He doesn't have to use it's own chakra because he wasn't containing it, he was bringing it out of another hiding spot using his own unique style.

2http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/08/
Now unlike the fuuin frog, the crow naruto deep throated is itachis power yet naruto doesnt have a SG, any affinity to fire, ect. Its clearly a power sealed in him and cant be used until its meant to be used just like what I purpose with the other half of the kyuubsi chakra in sasuke.

Itachi said he hopes naruto doesn't have to use it, meaning Naruto has access to it outside of fighting sasuke, but it's a power meant to counter something of sasuke's during combat. A last ditch effort, if you will.

Well minato did it lol. What u just said is why he got punched in the stomache by naruto, but narutos suffering and lonliness will pay off when madaras stopped with that powers help.

It wasn't because of Minato that Naruto was treated so poorly. The 3rd is the one that forbade people from speaking of Naruto as the jink for the 9 tails. The people hated Naruto because he carried the 9 tails after Madara sent it on a rampage to Konoha, causing many deaths. The kids around Naruto's age didn't know he was a jink until years later, they were just scorning him because their parents did so (kinda like learned racism)

Im sorry, but u ask me why I insult the fuck out of and this is why. The very question u just asked has the answer in the link directly above ur ignorant pointless question. lol. Here Ill post it again.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/

And just in case, 1 more timehttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/

and just in case Ill read it for ya. Kyuubi "chakra more sinister then my OWN"!!!!

We understand???

This is what I mentioned earlier in this post. You use half of the panel and ignore the other half because it doesn't fit your theory. The fox points out that the chakra is more sinister than his own BUT IT IS SIMILAR TO THAT OF MADARA whom the fox knows from the battles with the 1st and the 4th.


Lol, Yea, Im just sitting here slobbering and slapping my chest while watching Tim and Eric yet I still have to point out shinny words, concepts and the use of manga panels to you though. Lol!!!!


At least you admit you're a drooling fucktard

And again, Jman had no mark on him yet he clearly had another power sealed in him (key frog) and naruto has no new seals on him yet he has itachis power in him now. Seriously, try to keep up.

The frog was NOT sealed in Jiraya, he was summoning it from another location (as a frog sage he can summon...frogs *GASP*)

That makes no sense. Itachi wasnt a moster yet he was above the damn seenin by the time he was 18. And since the manga isnt over yet theres still room for other reasons why itachi made sasuke hate so much and my theory is one them wether u like it or not.

Itachi was out of options to stop the coup the Uchihas were planning and his hand was forced to kill them before the uprising could commence. He left sasuke alive because he couldn't bring himself to kill his own brother. Look at how he died, he didn't die in rage that Sasuke was alive, he died as the loving brother he was (with the poke to Sasuke's forehead that he often did when they were younger).

And no, u read the manga and stop posting ur opinion as manga fact.

That's what you're doing. You post manga panels, use half of them to fit your theory, and ignore the other half. At the same time, when we post manga panels you ignore them and state we're using our own opinions as manga fact when WE USE THE DAMN PANELS FOR PROOF.

Dude you aren't giving any facts you fool, you are trying to manipulate facts to support your theory,

Pot...meet kettle. You've been doing the same shit with your "theories"

She said Sasuke's chakra is dark, but not darker than the Kyuubi, you are extending it to that, everything you have said is a manipulation, Itachi tried to stop Sasuke from being manipulated by Madara, go back and read!

She said his chakra was darker than when he was in Stage 2 of his cursed seal. Never made a comparison with the Kyuubi because she had never sensed the Kyuubi until she saw Naruto (several chapters after her comment about Sasuke's chakra)

Oh Im sorry, so she didnt say thishttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/
"theres another chakra deep inside. Its dark, its like......"

Again...SHE'S MAKING A COMPARISON. She knows Sasuke's growing more and more insane and evil, his chakra is growing darker and colder to reflect this. The Kyuubi is a mass of hatred and evil. There are similarities but Sasuke DOESN'T HAVE THE KYUUBI in him.

How do u get context to such a statement? IDK, may by this!

Herehttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/15/

Its been compared to Curse mark level 2 chakra at its early stage of use.

She's comparing it to the Stage 2 mark because he grows more evil and insane when he's in Stage 2. His chakra changes when he uses the seal, it's been noted by others (Sakura, in the forest during the Chuunin exams).

However, by the endhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/484/09/

By this point its as dark as narutos kyuubi power. And since karin hasnt sensed anyone else dark chakra then she was clearly comparing sasukes shes been feeling to the kyuubis.

It was never stated that it's as dark as the kyuubi. She's commenting that Sasuke's chakra is darker and colder than anything she's felt from him in the past.

Put 2 and 2 together Buddy.

We have and came up with 4. You've put 2 and 2 together and came up with something like 857.

That makes NO sense you FOOL,

Nothing you've posted has made sense (though thanks for finally spelling "fool" correctly)

why wouldn't he hide both chakra's in both people

Because he didn't. He sealed the Yang half in Naruto and took the Yin half with him into the Death God.

and freaking keep the Kyuubi from ever coming out again since your bologna theory has him hiding one half and it NEVER coming into play, there is no way Minato KNEW Sasuke's chakra was SO DARK, you...are...a....fool.

He sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto (creating a key to unlock it when the time came) in a manner that the Kyuubi's chakra would mix with Naruto's to allow better control. Due to Naruto's Uzumaki heritage he knew he would have the innate strength to control the fox.

Lol This is u in the middle ages.

Gallaayo (sp): "the earth isnt flat and the earth isnt the center of the universe"

Christian Krurk: "lol, That makes no sense. What an Idiot. Lets stone him to death because my bias febble mind cant comprehend something someone else can"

First of all, you spelled Galileo wrong.

Second, he wasn't the one that came up with the "earth is round" hypothesis.

Third, he supported the Copernicus theory that the earth wasn't the center of the universe, he didn't create the theory.

Fourth, he wasn't stoned to death. He died under house arrest after going blind by looking into the sun from a telescope he created.


Again, the Uchihas are the cursed clan with dark chakra. With exeption to itachi, but his chakra might of still been pretty dark thanks to his KKG.

Nowhere does it say the Uchiha's are cursed with dark chakra. Sasuke has gone insane with hatred for the death of his clan. Madara went insane because he felt his clan turned their backs on him when they wanted peace with the Senju. Itachi was trying to protect Konoha from the uprising.

Thank you for doing everything i did not feel like doing today, Kael, and just so you know, I know it is sealed in the death god, i am just trying to debate his theory but i found out he doesn't agree to anything.

I was really, really bored. That's probably the last time I'm going to do that with his posts since he flat out refuses to acknowledge anything we post as evidence (even manga panels clearly contradicting what he's said)

Sasuke doesn't have the other half. I speak the truth, if you don't believe me than look at my Tobi=Madara. I'm always right at these things it's like I have forsight or more like common sense for me.

I don't want to brag but this is fact :D.

oh no worries ninja, i am sure you will be told it is not fact.

Holy shit. After reading through this thread I'm gonna die from retarded-logic overload.

Asa, YES!! :D


Kyf, NO. D:

First off, KRURK u little puss. I answered ur every question then u go and hide behind some "ur this, but Im that so I have no need to get my shit logic tore up anymore" post. Grow a pair!!!


[QUOTE]Oh goody. I think I'll play this time.



Same for us because you don't listen to a damn thing we've been saying.


Thats were ur wrong. I listen to everything u say, but that doesnt mean Im going to just say "oh, so many people believe this and that so it must be true because we all know popular opinion=manga Fkatz":rolleyes:



You post panels, but only use half of what's on them for your evidence when the other half fits our counter-arguments.

What do u mean half of whats on them?? Ur talking out of ur ass buddy because u cant dsiprove what the panels suggest.

Lol, half of whats on them. I dont need the whole page smart guy, just the bits that supports my theory, not kakashi telling naruto something about ramen.


You've said this to several others when we have posted panels. Yet you ignored the panels and claimed that isn't what kishi wrote, when it was what he wrote.

U need to give a panle and example because the only examples and panels yall have provided was this onehttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/12/

"the yin kyuubi chakra was sealed by the shiki fuujin". OK???

Question Jman? "How the fuck would u know what really happened to it since minato, nor the third trusted u with the info about kushina being a jink or madaras attack with the kyuubi 16 years ago".

Clearly Jman Knows what the third wanted him to know which doesnt include all the details what REALLY happened that night. So, ur panel is null because it proves nothing, but the fact Jman wasnt trusted with top secret info.


He's summoning the frog. He doesn't have to use it's own chakra because he wasn't containing it, he was bringing it out of another hiding spot using his own unique style.

WTF, and minato coudlnt of done the same to sasuke?? Seriously??

All u did was support my theory with this^^^statement which begs the question WHY are u arguing against if even u cant agree another chakra source can be hiden within some until that source is activated?

Itachi said he hopes naruto doesn't have to use it, meaning Naruto has access to it outside of fighting sasuke, but it's a power meant to counter something of sasuke's during combat. A last ditch effort, if you will.

Oh really because the DB3 clearly states itachi entrusted naruto to SAVE sasuke. And since itachis whole speach was concerning sasukes ability to be (controled) because hes a blank canvas. Madara or the power hidden in him could do it and clearly is. And with theyre being a frog key that got deep throated for one half of the kyuubi, it makes sense that the crow (key??) get deep throated as well which shows again context to itachis speech.


It wasn't because of Minato that Naruto was treated so poorly. The 3rd is the one that forbade people from speaking of Naruto as the jink for the 9 tails. The people hated Naruto because he carried the 9 tails after Madara sent it on a rampage to Konoha, causing many deaths. The kids around Naruto's age didn't know he was a jink until years later, they were just scorning him because their parents did so (kinda like learned racism)


Yea, OK. But the point is minato gave naruto the kyuubi for protection and trusted he wouldnt let his hate consume him from the pain of ridicule and loneliness. As well as madaras defeat of course.


This is what I mentioned earlier in this post. You use half of the panel and ignore the other half because it doesn't fit your theory. The fox points out that the chakra is more sinister than his own BUT IT IS SIMILAR TO THAT OF MADARA whom the fox knows from the battles with the 1st and the 4th.


I already explained that, keep up. Granted its just speculation madara couldve easily been its jink as well. And since madara IS the only other uchiha with access to that power its not exactly impluasible.



At least you admit you're a drooling fucktard

At least u admit through ur actions ur a faggbiscuit!!!



The frog was NOT sealed in Jiraya, he was summoning it from another location (as a frog sage he can summon...frogs *GASP*)


Oh, Im sorry. I didnt see that thing come out of his mouth or his body.?

Hunh the WTF is this http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/07/

Frog clearly says "why'd u BRING me OUT here". Not why did u summon me from mount myubokutan.

This is a summoning u dumb shit!!!http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/374/15/

Itachi was out of options to stop the coup the Uchihas were planning and his hand was forced to kill them before the uprising could commence. He left sasuke alive because he couldn't bring himself to kill his own brother. Look at how he died, he didn't die in rage that Sasuke was alive, he died as the loving brother he was (with the poke to Sasuke's forehead that he often did when they were younger).


Although I agree itachi would have to be left with no other options for someone like him to kill off his entire clan. Still, theres still room for there to be mre to it about WHY itachi would actually do it. And I can assure u hes too peaceful and intelligent to accept it as just a mission lol. The uchiha mustve been ready to do something far more horrible then madaras letting on.
Note: Itachis one goal in life seemed to be the protection of his brother. It was even more imporatant then his village so clearly soemthing was threating sasuke in order for itachi to do what he did IMO.



That's what you're doing. You post manga panels, use half of them to fit your theory, and ignore the other half. At the same time, when we post manga panels you ignore them and state we're using our own opinions as manga fact when WE USE THE DAMN PANELS FOR PROOF.

What fucking panels????

*looking around* :confused:

I see no panels just bitching. I already posted the only panel u feols keep using and shat on it with common sense because its credibility to ur side of the arguement is crap.


Pot...meet kettle. You've been doing the same shit with your "theories"


I dont claim my theories as facts u foel. Note: THATZ WHYZ THEYZ THURIEZ!!!!


She said his chakra was darker than when he was in Stage 2 of his cursed seal. Never made a comparison with the Kyuubi because she had never sensed the Kyuubi until she saw Naruto (several chapters after her comment about Sasuke's chakra)


Are u slow? She made tewo comparisons and the kyuubis chakra was like sasukes, not even the CS2 could tread water to such darkness. Uz DONTZ THINKY MISTERZ KISHIS COULDA DUNN THATZ 4 AH REASONZ.........

Come on, ur being more dense then SK to not be able to from some perspective dedeuce the context of such a comparision:rolleyes:


Again...SHE'S MAKING A COMPARISON. She knows Sasuke's growing more and more insane and evil, his chakra is growing darker and colder to reflect this. The Kyuubi is a mass of hatred and evil. There are similarities but Sasuke DOESN'T HAVE THE KYUUBI in him.

U know where I tell u that ur claiming ur opinions as Fkatz and then u say "nahunnnn! U are spppppppppppp" *farts*

^^that is what Im talking about!!!! U are claiming that shit as fact which is arrogant, ignorant and just delusional because that would mean u think u write this story.

She's comparing it to the Stage 2 mark because he grows more evil and insane when he's in Stage 2. His chakra changes when he uses the seal, it's been noted by others (Sakura, in the forest during the Chuunin exams).

Single manga panel of sasuke loosing his heart and mind to the CS2 in combat??

Now since that is over its fact sasuke even in stage two WASNT insane, wanting to kill everyone and still held back against juugo copies and deidara.

INFUCKING FACT!!! Sasuke in the CS2 level state for the first time didnt even kill naruto EVEN THOUGH HE WANTED TOO!!!. uR IDEA IS SHIT AND NULL!!

And the rest


It was never stated that it's as dark as the kyuubi. She's commenting that Sasuke's chakra is darker and colder than anything she's felt from him in the past.

She compared it to the kyuubi, not CS2 or even the hachibi which she felt before too if u have forgottenhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/414/02/

No mention of darkness what so ever. Of all the things karin compared sasukes new chakra too, she compared it to the kyuubis which clearly tripped her out by the look on her face.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/488/09/

We have and came up with 4. You've put 2 and 2 together and came up with something like 857.

No, u put Bias and Opinion togehter and somehow came up with FACT!?! Buncha arrogant pricks!!!!


Nothing you've posted has made sense (though thanks for finally spelling "fool" correctly)

I dont give a crap about my spelling. However, u inability to make sense of something u clearly cant comprehend isnt my problem, its urs.....




Because he didn't. He sealed the Yang half in Naruto and took the Yin half with him into the Death God.

Proof kish?? Last I checked the truth about that night is jus now being revealed. Future manga panels please???

He sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto (creating a key to unlock it when the time came) in a manner that the Kyuubi's chakra would mix with Naruto's to allow better control. Due to Naruto's Uzumaki heritage he knew he would have the innate strength to control the fox.

And what, minato couldnt of possibly sealed the other half in sasuke, left a key with itachi (the crow) all because he knew the uchiha have the power to control the kyuubi so one day uchiha and senju could mend there bonds by working togehter against a common enemy lol?

Sasuke doesn't have the other half. End of story.

Sasuke doesn't have the other half. End of story.

Not really, just a timely interval...

Yeah agreed, the theory makes sense to some extent, Kishi has presented Naruto and Sasuke as the two halves that combine into a whole throughout the manga, so it would not surprise me if he did do something like that, but I also think Kishi is putting everyone in someone elses footsteps. Naruto takes after Jman, Sasuke and Oro, Sakura and Tsunade, I know I am stating the obvious but Kishi has put Sasuke on the path for him and Naruto to destroy one another, just like Jman should had done to Oro. I do not think Sasuke has the chakra, I think it is in the death god, but if he put it else where, i pray to god, he put it in Itachi, putting it in Sasuke, it just makes Sasuke too good you know? Naruto and Sasuke has to have their differences, Sasuke is from the famous Uchiha clan ( actually infamous), and Naruto is a Jink. They have to stay like that.

Yeah agreed, the theory makes sense to some extent, Kishi has presented Naruto and Sasuke as the two halves that combine into a whole throughout the manga, so it would not surprise me if he did do something like that, but I also think Kishi is putting everyone in someone elses footsteps. Naruto takes after Jman, Sasuke and Oro, Sakura and Tsunade, I know I am stating the obvious but Kishi has put Sasuke on the path for him and Naruto to destroy one another, just like Jman should had done to Oro. I do not think Sasuke has the chakra, I think it is in the death god, but if he put it else where, i pray to god, he put it in Itachi, putting it in Sasuke, it just makes Sasuke too good you know? Naruto and Sasuke has to have their differences, Sasuke is from the famous Uchiha clan ( actually infamous), and Naruto is a Jink. They have to stay like that.

I dont udnerstand why u and so many others think naruto is so punny that his strength is defined by the kyuubi. PreSM I would agree, but naruto doesnt need the kyuubi to be kage level like sasuke. He has SM, and his own KKG of huge chakra pool, natural use of kage bushins and an iron clad will.

I mean once naruto learns the FTG along with other seals, him and sasuke should be basicly even without the kyuubis power.

So basicly;

EMS sasuke=SM, FTG and seal mastery naruto.

So, both getting a half of the kyuubi would only yet again make them equals.

I dont udnerstand why u and so many others think naruto is so punny that his strength is defined by the kyuubi. PreSM I would agree, but naruto doesnt need the kyuubi to be kage level like sasuke. He has SM, and his own KKG of huge chakra pool, natural use of kage bushins and an iron clad will.

I mean once naruto learns the FTG along with other seals, him and sasuke should be basicly even without the kyuubis power.

So basicly;

EMS sasuke=SM, FTG and seal mastery naruto.

So, both getting a half of the kyuubi would only yet again make them equals.

I agree with you, if Naruto learns FTG he is equal to Sasuke because his Speed would then counter Sasukes EMS, his chakra would be much larger than Sasuke, and finally Sage mode give him a level up on Sasuke. But I just think throughout the story Kishi has basically made the Kyuubi a huge part of Naruto, and it gives him a more unique quality, I don't mind if he puts it in Sasuke, but I just Naruto having the Kyuubi only makes his character seem stronger because of all the difficult things he has undergone, by having Sasuke have a little hiding inside him, it kind of takes away from Naruto, idk how else to explain it.

I agree with you, if Naruto learns FTG he is equal to Sasuke because his Speed would then counter Sasukes EMS, his chakra would be much larger than Sasuke, and finally Sage mode give him a level up on Sasuke. But I just think throughout the story Kishi has basically made the Kyuubi a huge part of Naruto, and it gives him a more unique quality, I don't mind if he puts it in Sasuke, but I just Naruto having the Kyuubi only makes his character seem stronger because of all the difficult things he has undergone, by having Sasuke have a little hiding inside him, it kind of takes away from Naruto, idk how else to explain it.

But ur forgetting the kind of life sasuke has had if the uchiha massacre really was because of that hidden power. He lost his family, clan and innocence. Why would it not pay off for sasuke to be just like naruto, a secret jink, thus making naruto and sasukes bonds even greater since they both share the same fate, pain, goals allowing them both to truly understand one another.

But ur forgetting the kind of life sasuke has had if the uchiha massacre really was because of that hidden power. He lost his family, clan and innocence. Why would it not pay off for sasuke to be just like naruto, a secret jink, thus making naruto and sasukes bonds even greater since they both share the same fate, pain, goals allowing them both to truly understand one another.

I understand what you are saying, and it makes a lot of sense, but Sasuke is already just as strong as Naruto without the Kyuubi, and basically if you give Sasuke the Kyuubi then, as i said before, you take away from Naruto's uniqueness, he is one of 9 jinks, Sasuke is unique in his own way, as is Naruto in his, if Sasuke has part of the Kyuubi, then Itachi may have well of given Naruto some of Sharingans powers lol, it is what makes them different.

Manga 503: KYF is definitively proven wrong. Words of joy are uttered from fellow forummers. Maybe now he'll see that his theories are bullshit. (Lol, even I laughed at that last line.)

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Let's put this rest and let this thread die a slow and painful death.