What's with all the vegan talk? Are you guys really that fat or something to be obsessing over food like that? Why do you even care what other people are eating?

Yeah well you should all care what I'm eating, cause I'm eating Weetbix.


You know you're jealous....

I know it too......

I'm eating broccoli alfredo pasta.

Don't care.........


Weebix /nuffsed

What's with all the vegan talk? Are you guys really that fat or something to be obsessing over food like that? Why do you even care what other people are eating?
you dont know or appreciate the greatness of awesome food.

you dont know or appreciate the greatness of awesome food.
I take it you're one of those fat people who care about what other people are eating?

no, but i love mah food.

however if you are going to assume that kinda shyte about me, ill leave this here:

a real man can appreciate good food.

OG is hawt.

speaking of which,have you gotten your own ps3 already? now that it got jail broken an' shit.

No. They didnt have a pirated blue ray disk for ps3 which is suck. They have pirated xbox 360 dvd though

3 dvd for 10 dollars

What with this 4 loko drink?

I know it got ban, does anyone ever drink it?

googled.

alcoholic energy drink? sounds gross. then again, im not a fan of energy drinks <.<

What with this 4 loko drink?

I know it got ban, does anyone ever drink it?

Yeah, its like the "thing" nowadays with teens. Its like drinking a 6 pack of beers and 3-4 espressos at the same time or some shit. I don't drink it, but I don't drink anyway I just know I've seen hardcore drinkers get slammed by one can, 2 cans is enough for a blackout.

Actually OG

its its a mixture of malt liquor, caffiene and energy drink

or in wiki

mixture of alcohol, caffeine, taurine, and guarana

Drinking alcoholic energy drinks is retarded, you're comsuming and upper and a downer, you're just going to get yourself fucked by the end of the night, tis why I won't drink Vodka Redbull on the rare occasion I drink these days.

Well I know if you mix caffiene and alcohol, you wont get drunk because the caffiene counteracting it.

So whats the point of mixing things that makes you less alert and more alert in one drink?

I don't think caffeine stops you from getting drunk.

Instead of getting drunk, it is more of a high since the caffeine is not letting people feel the drunk as fast. Some call it "Liquid Cocaine", because many times people don't know they are drunk when drinking them.

So you still get drunk, just don't realize it? Okay.

people don't know they are drunk when drinking them

I dont really get this

I would explain if I wasn't so tired, later on today I'll explain.

You will get drunk and want to go to sleep, but the caffeine (and other stimulants) keeps you up so you are a fuckin zombie if you drink too much of that bullshit.

kluang- yea i looked at wiki too, read "Four is a caffeinated, alcoholic energy drink" and stopped there. same thing O=

lol XD

Alcohol + Caffeine = NoNo

I take it you're one of those fat people who care about what other people are eating?

I don't know if I should see this post as sad or ignorant or what... The idea that you have to be fat to enjoy food. Really.

Anyway, Alcohol and caffeine was pretty much summed up by Zer0 with his "upper and a downer". Simply, alcohol is a depressant (depresses neuronal function) and caffeine is a stimulant (stimulating neuronal function). Therefore, when you combine the two, your neurons are under the effects of both which can either cancel out or shift one way or the other. Usually, the caffeine wins out, so you feel more alert or at least your body is. However, the alcohol is still in your system, causing havoc. So you end up thinking you are OK which puts you at risk for overconsumption and alcohol poisoning, when you are a complete moron because you can't count your drinks. You are still drunk but you are still going.

It is the same idea behind the theory that if you are drunk/hungover you can fix yourself with black coffee. All it does is get your neurons firing but you are still drunk/hungover - which could be more dangerous.

googled.

alcoholic energy drink? sounds gross. then again, im not a fan of energy drinks <.<Wait, this is uncommon? We've had Rockstar+Vodka up in Canada for years.

I don't know if I should see this post as sad or ignorant or what... The idea that you have to be fat to enjoy food. Really.

Anyway, Alcohol and caffeine was pretty much summed up by Zer0 with his "upper and a downer". Simply, alcohol is a depressant (depresses neuronal function) and caffeine is a stimulant (stimulating neuronal function). Therefore, when you combine the two, your neurons are under the effects of both which can either cancel out or shift one way or the other. Usually, the caffeine wins out, so you feel more alert or at least your body is. However, the alcohol is still in your system, causing havoc. So you end up thinking you are OK which puts you at risk for overconsumption and alcohol poisoning, when you are a complete moron because you can't count your drinks. You are still drunk but you are still going.

It is the same idea behind the theory that if you are drunk/hungover you can fix yourself with black coffee. All it does is get your neurons firing but you are still drunk/hungover - which could be more dangerous.

one university student that drinks this too much was hospitilized and almost die, with a blood alcohol level of .30

See I don't drink coffee, so I'm ok on that part.

although I do remember one of the very rare occasions I was hungover and me and a mate vedged out on the couch watching 08th MS Team, We were both starving but couldn't be fucked to drive and get fast food, so we raided the pantry and the fridge, the only thing we found we could eat without any effort of cooking anything was Chilli Salami.

Bad idea man, very bad idea.

I like those little energy shots, i drink one before i got out for a night on the town
pls they claim to be all natural

also, i see what's going on here
Vengeance calls us fat in the HOPES that we'll post scantaly clad pictures of ourselves to prove that we are not.

...i don't like salami

Wait, this is uncommon? We've had Rockstar+Vodka up in Canada for years.

I'm surprised too. Its too sweet for my taste plus 30g of sugar, caffeine and taurine is not good if you want to party because the crashes... it's just not a good drink.

If mixing liquor it should be done properly, like Gin + Tonic, 3 cubs of ice and a slice of lemon.

I drink and mix everything, bitches. (yeah I'll die when I am 35)

They sell the unbranded vodka and energy drink in the same partition in my local Iceland. Right next to the checkout.

Lol.

Wait, this is uncommon? We've had Rockstar+Vodka up in Canada for years.
no, people do that here too, i just dont like energy drinks, so gross to me <.<

tab-i doubt the "natural" part to any energy drink. lol

and i liek salami =D

Sammiiiches! =D

Ahem, natural energy drinks my ass. <.< I think Red Bull claims something natural too.

You want natural energy drink try

ginseng

tongkat ali

Kacip fatima

no, people do that here too, i just dont like energy drinks, so gross to me <.<No, as in this (http://www.rockstarvodka.com/).

no, but i love mah food.

however if you are going to assume that kinda shyte about me, ill leave this here:

a real man can appreciate good food.

Hey,can we have a cooking thread around here were we can share recipes and have all food related discussions?

Am sure there is alot of people here who like to cook there own food,or alteast they have some freedom around the kitchen were they try shit out. just a fun idea.

No. They didnt have a pirated blue ray disk for ps3 which is suck. They have pirated xbox 360 dvd though

3 dvd for 10 dollars

Will that the pretty thing about a hacked ps3,you don't need no blue ray,no burning,no shit. it's all a software hax,there is no drive flashing of any sort or any hardware modding (so we finally gonna enjoy stuff like a game console's WARRANTY) . It's all about a usb flash that you plug it in the ps3 to install some sort of a backup manager thinger that allows you to play the ps3 games that you already transferred to it's hard disk.

No, as in this (http://www.rockstarvodka.com/).
no idea, i dont keep up with energy drinks. <.<

nero-why do u have to ask? u can just make one XD

no idea, i dont keep up with energy drinks. <.<

nero-why do u have to ask? u can just make one XD

just wanted to see if i can get you on board,I would like to share my cookingz with you. >.>


And seriously guys,Energy drinks?

There is a big fat rumor around Egypt that this drinks are bad for your health,and i don't mean the alcoholic ones.

There's no positive or negative effect on the body's performance from the taurine and other crap in energy drinks. It's the massive amounts of caffeine and sugars in them which are bad for you.

Hey,can we have a cooking thread around here were we can share recipes and have all food related discussions?

Am sure there is alot of people here who like to cook there own food,or alteast they have some freedom around the kitchen were they try shit out. just a fun idea.

Just make it.








a] Cooking is awesome. It's pretty high on my uses stress release.

It's like...
1. Gaming [shooting people].
2. Sex [fapfapfapfap].
3. Cooking.
4. Wrestling. <-Don't watch though. Any sort of competitive Wrestling/boxing. It bores me.

b] All energy drinks taste like ass. Except Bawls. I think that is [considered] an* energy drink.

Bawls tastes like Sprite and was one of the first "energy" drinks, I believe. Though it wasn't classified as such at the time.

bawls. hehe, sounds like BALLS.

//edit: sounds moar like a protein drink than energy drink lololol

nero-im not sharing with u <.<

nero-im not sharing with u <.<

You're mean OG ;_;

EDIT:

Help,I can't make threads..it gives me this white page again every time i try to submit it =(

Yeah, thread-making's been kind of fucked for a while.

Alright then i'll post the whole thing in the longest thread for now (since i prepared/uploaded every thing and need to close all those tabs) and then when thread making is available again i'll create the thread and mibs can cut my post and put it thar.

It seems like if you make a thread title with spaces in it, then it fucks up. But if you make one without spaces, it works...more often. So make the thread without spaces, and if you can't edit the thread title yourself then I'll just add the spaces for you.

that sounds better,i'll try it out.

thanks yo =D

EDIT:

Alright guys thread is posted,lets cook something naughty.

EDIT 2:

ok mibs just add a space there in the title for me since i don't know how. >.>

i'm makign EGGS!
hard boiled. i am excited, because i am very hungry

Any cooking related discussions are welcome in the cooking thread.

I don't really like boiled eggs,the only way i'll eat them is if they're not boiled very well..I like the yolk to explode in my mouth.

You mean a half boiled egg?

You mean a half boiled egg?

That would be a "soft boiled egg" my non-American friend.

Darth- Lol@ Explosions in your mouth.

i'm makign EGGS!
hard boiled. i am excited, because i am very hungry

I <3 hard boiled eggs.










On the subject of food. I found a great recipe for a taco/burrito/w/e sauce.
As a warning you have to enjoy a medium to mild spice and the taste of Chipotle chilies.

If you're serving more than 6 people-
Buy a can of Chipotle in adobo sauce.
3 Chipotle chilies in a blender/food processor. Blend until smooth.
Add one cup of mayo and one cup of sour cream. Blend again.
Add some of the adobo sauce to taste.

It's awesome. If you're nervous about the mayo you can substitute just all sour cream and heavy cream [but I'd have to go do that to confirm the consistency].

If you're serving for self I suggest 1/2-1 chili and 1/3 of the cream[s] and mayo.

I love Four Lokos.... Especially the watermelon flavor...:O

Boiled eggs are amazing. Especially when you cut them in half and add Johnny's, mustard, and relish. MY GOD.

I love Four Lokos.... Especially the watermelon flavor...:O

Boiled eggs are amazing. Especially when you cut them in half and add Johnny's, mustard, and relish. MY GOD.

the cranberry lemonade flavor one is good also

I <3 hard boiled eggs.


^This

and also;
http://i.imgur.com/io59j.jpg

(yeah I'll die when I am 35)

Meet you there?

Shit, you beat me to a Shotaro joke.

@ Vanity - definitely not hot enough. Add a few more peppers.

I don't know there is an egg recipe I don't like. Maybe scrambled just due to boredom. Eggs are awesome.

Yes they are

@ Vanity - definitely not hot enough. Add a few more peppers.

I don't know there is an egg recipe I don't like. Maybe scrambled just due to boredom. Eggs are awesome.

I'm not a spice person, but by all means.

I'm actually going to take one out next time I make that much.

...eggs are teh shit...

watching free movie online

watching free movie online

watching free movie online

I like streaming too bro.

I prefer downloading.

I prefer downloading too. Unless the movie is DvdRip, I don't watch it online.

Downloading is better, takes away all the buffering. But buying them is even better.

Downloading is better, takes away all the buffering. But buying them is even better.
The only reason that I believe you might think buying is better is cuz u can play them on tv instead of having to focus on a small monitor. But even when i buy them, I use those wires that connect the PC to the tv.

No, that's not the reason.

No, that's not the reason.
Really? I can't think of anything else right now.

I'll leave you to figure it out.

Nah bro, I won't bother.

Downloading is better, takes away all the buffering. But buying them is even better.

Downloading takes longer than an initial buffer. If it's more of an annoyance to let something buffer for a whole minute or two then you need less shitty internet >:

I know that's why I prefer downloading Van. I need some fiber optic cables instead of these shitty CAT 5e cables. At the very least I want a CAT 6, at least they're faster than my current cables. Should beg parents but they'll be like "nuuu" all the fucking way.

Downloading takes longer than an initial buffer. If it's more of an annoyance to let something buffer for a whole minute or two then you need less shitty internet >:

Depending on how you are downloading and your video player (and of course your internet connection, but thats another issue), this argument is invalid.
ex. FTP + GOM= watching while downloading. I've done it many times.

with torrents this doesnt work, ofc.


@NLB you buy to support the makers? enjoy that. one dvd wont hurt them.
or is it low speed/download limit?

Also the tv argument (whoever mentioned it) is shit. With hd tvs connecting a laptop/pc is no problem (usually), and video game consoles watching a downloaded movie on your tv is no biggie.

I torrent basically everything now. I can download whole seasons of shit while I'm out, and then watch them whenever.

Only time I stream shit is if the shit I'm watching is live. Or if I'm streaming netflix shit using my pstriple.

I don't buy anything except games.

I prefer JDownlaoder + FTP servers for games (if I want to play any). Torrents are too "shady" for my taste. But when I want to watch movies or stuff, I stream it.

@NLB you buy to support the makers? enjoy that. one dvd wont hurt them.
or is it low speed/download limit?

low speed/bandwith. It has like 1000Mb/s for Max frequency, if you take into consideration the other people sharing the internet, I got 250Mb/s max frequency for bandwith. CAT 6 has 2500 Mb/s for bandwith so I would have 625 Mb/s max frequency. Fiber optic cables got high speed(fastest cable) but don't know about bandwith, I'll look into it or ask my IT cabling teacher.

i stream a LOT. movies, clips, and whole tv series[mostly azn dramaz cause less stories about spoiled rich kids runnin about sexin and gettin emoz. also the action tv series, have better action scenes]. >.> streaming has lower quality than if u were to dl for the most part but thats ok. <.<

Edit- Streaming is what's up^ I stream just about everything.

Occasionally quality is really bad but you can find better sometimes =D So it's all good.

Depending on how you are downloading and your video player (and of course your internet connection, but thats another issue), this argument is invalid.
ex. FTP + GOM= watching while downloading. I've done it many times.

with torrents this doesnt work, ofc.


But then downloading is still unnecessary, unless you have to DL rather than stream to watch it without issues. You could just be streaming. So my point is still valid. Figures.


I torrent things if I do want to be able to leave and come back to a large amount of things, like an entire season of something. But if it's something I'm just going to sit down and then watch,* streaming is fabulous.

I forgot about porn...somehow. I stream porn.


It's good to download some for emergencies though, like if you forget to pay your interwebs bill and it gets shut off for a bit.

I forgot about porn...somehow. I stream porn.


It's good to download some for emergencies though, like if you forget to pay your interwebs bill and it gets shut off for a bit.

I still just stream my pr0ns <.< My computers are accessible by everyone in my house. Can't have that shit just sitting around x]

Oh.

My.

Fucking.

I don't even. This reminds me of my bro. He has a friend that DLed pr0n onto his computer every single time he stayed over more than a few hours. Every fucking time. My bro would periodically clean up his computer and find shit like Steaming hot pr0n star with equally hot sister sexin in the kitchen. It was hilarious.

Oh man I bet had fapped at his PC too then diddled all my bro's shit with his cum hands.

I know that's why I prefer downloading Van. I need some fiber optic cables instead of these shitty CAT 5e cables. At the very least I want a CAT 6, at least they're faster than my current cables. Should beg parents but they'll be like "nuuu" all the fucking way.WTF you talking about? I've got the mid-tier service from my ISP and I can stream 1080p up in this bitch.


@NLB you buy to support the makers? enjoy that. one dvd wont hurt them.You're right, one more DVD won't hurt them, because the vast number of cheap bastards out there means a single DVD is only a small portion of their total loss.

@Van-Oh, I'm the only person who uses my computer. And that would really upset the fuck outta me if someone was fappin' on my shit. That would be a "you're not my buddy anymore, plus I'm hurting you now" kinda situation.


Also, since we're sharing: I worked with a guy who had porn on his PSP. And he'd just sit there and watch it like it was a movie or some shit. No fappin' or anything. It was fat chick porn too. Like, fucking Jabba level fatties. Weird.

@Van-Oh, I'm the only person who uses my computer. And that would really upset the fuck outta me if someone was fappin' on my shit. That would be a "you're not my buddy anymore, plus I'm hurting you now" kinda situation.


Also, since we're sharing: I worked with a guy who had porn on his PSP. And he'd just sit there and watch it like it was a movie or some shit. No fappin' or anything. It was fat chick porn too. Like, fucking Jabba level fatties. Weird.

Not weird. Nasty. Also, how did you know what type it was? >_>
In his chubychasing frenzy of lust does he blurt it out or lean over and share all that extra cushion? Plenty to go around, amirite?



I know of a guy that has a PSP just for his pr0n. And a laptop. Seriously just for pr0n.

Just what the fuck.

I'm unsure at what point fatty sex stops being sex and just becomes another form of harpooning.

Not weird. Nasty. Also, how did you know what type it was? >_>
In his chubychasing frenzy of lust does he blurt it out or lean over and share all that extra cushion? Plenty to go around, amirite?

Oh, cause I'd be like "Hey, watcha' playing, br-WHOA. Holy shit, dude."



I know of a guy that has a PSP just for his pr0n. And a laptop. Seriously just for pr0n.

Just what the fuck.


...G?


And yeah, I hate fat chicks.

@Mal: I have to share the internet so speed and bandwith are being cut to a fourth of what it should be. It sucks so much, My brother is constantly watching sports and my other siblings are either on facebook or watching anime or occasionally, porn.

it's not weird to have porn clips/vids on a handheld media device

>.> <.<

Isnt there supposed to be a myth about if you put too many porn in your handphone it will brreakdown more quickly.

Portable and efficient porn.

Yeah I have always wondered just what the fuck are people thinking when they are just watching porn without fapping or anything. Seeing as how that guy likes to watch whales mate though, I am not surprised.

My porn consists of stick people doin' it etched into my desk's top......

i hope u dont mean anorexic pornz.

to me, its moar scary than big people pornz.

There's more chance of breakage... and things poking out of places where they shouldn't... also sharp knees... sharp knees...

anything where they both have boners is off putting.....

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

But then downloading is still unnecessary, unless you have to DL rather than stream to watch it without issues. You could just be streaming. So my point is still valid. Figures.

Nope, your point is still invalid. Your point was that you have to wait a lot longer till it downloads than wait for the buffer to load. I clearly showed that it can be invalid, depending on how you download. Whether downloading is better or not is irrelevant to that sole point.

Downloading, even if watching while downloading, still has its advantages. Re-watching, connection issues (if your connection breaks often you would have to rebuffer and shit, but with downloading that is not an issue), etc..

Anyways, I usually do what Miburo does, torrent it in advance. Though, depending on ftp availability, I might download via ftp (better speed, can decide to watch while downloading if I decide I dont wanna wait, etc)

Download isnt necessary. You only rewatch stuff that you really really like. And I buy DVD movie that I really like. Its always comes extra stuff so ok. If its an ok movie I just stream it.

I only use torrent to get stuff like NDS Roms, or japanese hentai games.

I've got a terabyte external hard drive, so I download everything and hoard it.

^ Hoarding increases the chance of fire.

i hope u dont mean anorexic pornz.

to me, its moar scary than big people pornz.

Not to mention it sounds like a wet bag of sticks being struck against a carpet.

...

What?

Nope, your point is still invalid. Your point was that you have to wait a lot longer till it downloads than wait for the buffer to load. I clearly showed that it can be invalid, depending on how you download. Whether downloading is better or not is irrelevant to that sole point.

That wouldn't make her point invalid, retard. Since, like you pointed out yourself, it depends on how you download. It's a perfectly valid point in situations where it applies.

Her statement didn't include the exception, because she probably didn't think anyone would nitpick about it like a faggot. She probably wasn't expecting any debate about it, and therefore saw no need to state the obvious. You came in here nitpicking like a faggot, so you should have known better.

Maybe instead of trying to tell her that her statement is invalid like a douche, you could have simply asked her if she intended to have her statement universally applied to all downloading situations. I'd bet she'd say 'no.' Meaning you were being a fag based on simple miscommunication. Good job.

....i just disabled seeing signatures for the first time...
my forum experience is so much better now ^_^

That wouldn't make her point invalid, retard. Since, like you pointed out yourself, it depends on how you download. It's a perfectly valid point in situations where it applies.

Her statement didn't include the exception, because she probably didn't think anyone would nitpick about it like a faggot. She probably wasn't expecting any debate about it, and therefore saw no need to state the obvious. You came in here nitpicking like a faggot, so you should have known better.

Maybe instead of trying to tell her that her statement is invalid like a douche, you could have simply asked her if she intended to have her statement universally applied to all downloading situations. I'd bet she'd say 'no.' Meaning you were being a fag based on simple miscommunication. Good job.

She didn't include, nor did she exclude the statement. Again, like you said, I've pointed out that . Anyways, we were talking about ways of obtaining/watching video, and the advantages and disadvantages. I added by stating a situation which is NOT obvious. Most (or at least a significant enough portion that makes it not obvious) people dont know that you can watch while downloading (in certain situations of course), that post was mostly meant to be informative.

Anyways, the discussion was already going on, so saying she probably wasnt expecting a debate was stupid. Oh, and about the nitpicking, was I nitpicking about what she said anymore than she was nitpicking about what I said.

Also, you talking about asking her if I she was speaking about all was unnecessary and a bit stupid. Like you know yourself, I didn't say her point was invalid in all situations, just in that one. And in her reply she talked about that situation, and not in general. So the whole "all downloading situations" and miscommunication shit is bull. I mentioned that situation, she continued with it, dont be a douche and barge in talking about all situations and different topics and shit. Oh, and why be a hypocrite? if you tell me that i shouldn't have done something, why do it your self?

Anyways, her statement, in that situation, is still invalid, even with her bad attempt to defend it.

Downloading being necessary (in that situation) or not does in no way affect the fact that her waiting argument (in that situation) is invalid. Horrible attempt.

She didn't include, nor did she exclude the statement. Again, like you said, I've pointed out that . Anyways, we were talking about ways of obtaining/watching video, and the advantages and disadvantages. I added by stating a situation which is NOT obvious. Most (or at least a significant enough portion that makes it not obvious) people dont know that you can watch while downloading (in certain situations of course), that post was mostly meant to be informative.

You don't know what most people know or don't know. It also doesn't matter, since I'm not talking about what people do or don't know. I'm talking about what is obvious. It's obvious that it doesn't apply to when you can view while downloading. Period.

And if you meant it to just be informative, then there would be no need to tell her that her statement is invalid. Which is just a douchy way of telling someone they're wrong.

Anyways, the discussion was already going on, so saying she probably wasnt expecting a debate was stupid. Oh, and about the nitpicking, was I nitpicking about what she said anymore than she was nitpicking about what I said.

How would casually talking about something mean it would be stupid to not expect a debate about it? It's not stupid to assume you don't need to present your stance on a matter in such a way to avoid possible counter-arguments when you're casually discussing a subject.

Also, you talking about asking her if I she was speaking about all was unnecessary and a bit stupid. Like you know yourself, I didn't say her point was invalid in all situations, just in that one. And in her reply she talked about that situation, and not in general. So the whole "all downloading situations" and miscommunication shit is bull. I mentioned that situation, she continued with it, dont be a douche and barge in talking about all situations and different topics and shit. Oh, and why be a hypocrite? if you tell me that i shouldn't have done something, why do it your self?

No, you said her point was invalid, faggot. Scroll up. You then said it can be invalid in a certain situation, which has a totally different meaning than saying her point is invalid.

Just like she said streaming is better than downloading (in her opinion), because of buffering being faster than downloading the whole thing. It looks like she's saying it's better in all instances, because she didn't state the (obvious) part about it only applying to situations where downloading doesn't allow viewing till completion. Which I'm sure she would have, if you just asked her instead of going all 'invalid point durr hurr." She was just casually posting, you were picking a fight. Of course you're going into it with your hands up. She was just chilling there though.

And I'm not being a hypocrite, since they're different situations. I'm doing to you what you did to her. You're not doing to someone what they did to you. You came in being a douche unprovoked. It's like punching a guy who punched you. Yeah, we're both punching someone, but the situation is still different. One is assault, the other is self-defense.

Anyways, her statement, in that situation, is still invalid, even with her bad attempt to defend it.

Downloading being necessary (in that situation) or not does in no way affect the fact that her waiting argument (in that situation) is invalid. Horrible attempt.

Thanks for that non-douchy, informative tidbit, fag. Seriously, what is it? You trying to beat her in a debate about something she wasn't even debating? Or are you just trying to be a helpful dude by sharing information? Cut the shit, babydick. You're just being a douche.

I know this is off subject....but fuck it.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-11/harvard-creates-mice-grow-younger-which-could-lead-human-anti-aging-treatments

Awesome, one step closer to being a goddamn immortal. Fuck yeah, science!

But rejuvenating old organs in mice does not necessarily mean a human treatment is on the way, the researchers warn. For one, mice make telomerase throughout their lives, but the enzyme is switched off in adult humans, as it can cause unchecked cell replication (read: cancer). None of the mice in the study developed cancer, but there’s no telling if human tissues would tolerate the treatment so well.

That is the one part that worries me. But if we can get around that, Science will prevail.

It will fail on humans and will mutate to a very infective virus that will turn everyone to zombies.

*crossing fingers*

That's very cool - but completely artificial. They made the mouse really old then made it rejuvenate. That's a hard sell on human tissue. Particularly because there's no indication that just upping your telomerase is good enough to cause the same effect. Still, cool. Now, if we can cure the issues with human overpopulation due to just regular old fucking, we might be able to fit in some sort of immortal population.

Also, don't worry if the little mice develop cancer. Science has already cured mouse line cancer. Really.

Yeah it would be harder for us to undergo the treatment, since we do stop producing this gene after a certain time. But it is a good breakthrough nonetheless. The next step would be to somehow overcome this hurdle....which wouldn't be for a while.

That's why children>adults. Sorry I just wanted to be a prick.

don't appologize fr being a prick
also, stating your stupid opinion isn't being a prick, it's just being stupid and opinionated
... so, what's this about?
i ahaven't read like the last... well lots of posts.
Mal did, however, tell me what that link is about

Its about scientist who want to reverse aging and turn human into sperm again

he told me it's about scientists reversing the aging process in mice

Yes, but ultimately it will be use by humans.

That's very cool - but completely artificial. They made the mouse really old then made it rejuvenate. That's a hard sell on human tissue. Particularly because there's no indication that just upping your telomerase is good enough to cause the same effect. Still, cool. Now, if we can cure the issues with human overpopulation due to just regular old fucking, we might be able to fit in some sort of immortal population.

Hey man. They probably just didn't want to wait around for the mice to grow old naturally. And you probably can't just buy the old ones, no market for old mice or something. I dunno.

Still, they're working on making shit younger, and they took unfit for battle mice and made them more battle ready. So, that's awesome, and relative to my interests. Since, as of now, I age and that sucks. Because old people aren't as good at battling as they would be if they had non-old bodies. I don't care that they need to work out some kinks now, because I'm at the pinnacle of my youth and totally battle ready. But when I do get old as fuck, this shit might be useful. So don't go raining on my immortal parade with your overpopulation and shit negative attitude. = (

Besides, if science can make people not get all decrepit and shit, then I'm sure they can fix lol2manyppl pretty easily. Just make goddamn farm greenhouse skyscraper things and clone steaks, or some shit. Plus space colonies. No problem. Science prevails. Fuck yeah.

Besides, if science can make people not get all decrepit and shit, then I'm sure they can fix lol2manyppl pretty easily. Just make goddamn farm greenhouse skyscraper things and clone steaks, or some shit. Plus space colonies. No problem. Science prevails. Fuck yeah.

Don't worry, if such a treatment will be available, it will be pretty expensive. So that will divide the society by those who will be "immortal" and those who won't. That will create a multiple class society. There will be a need for a "law enforcement group" that will protect the rich from the poor. It will be just like in some townships, just on a larger scale. And well, the "immortal" people may have a need for stricter laws with a death penalty for minor infrictions. Or TV shows like in "Running Man".

So don't worry, that technology will create a solution to the overpopulation. If this is worth achieving, is questionable.

Farm skyscrapers. Which means we are one step closer to this http://idigitalcitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/1024x768-cybertron.jpg

edit: That www.futuretimeline.net site is the shit.

So don't worry, that technology will create a solution to the overpopulation. If this is worth achieving, is questionable.

I agree. My money is still on antibiotic-resistant TB. Had a few flu scares but they seem all talk.

Hey man. They probably just didn't want to wait around for the mice to grow old naturally. And you probably can't just buy the old ones, no market for old mice or something. I dunno.

Still, they're working on making shit younger, and they took unfit for battle mice and made them more battle ready. So, that's awesome, and relative to my interests. Since, as of now, I age and that sucks. Because old people aren't as good at battling as they would be if they had non-old bodies. I don't care that they need to work out some kinks now, because I'm at the pinnacle of my youth and totally battle ready. But when I do get old as fuck, this shit might be useful. So don't go raining on my immortal parade with your overpopulation and shit negative attitude. = (

Well, my point was really just that that the scientists were able to remove a factor causing a problem then replace it to solve it. It is akin to me taking your liver, watching you get all full to toxins and then putting it back and seeing you get better. Sweet - I just proved livers work.

Overall, I don't disagree with working on aging. I just don't know that it be something we can defeat because it isn't simple. Dealing with age related disease so that more people live longer and healthier is far more important. Still, the science is very cool. This goes in the box with the species of roundworm that scientists made live 4 times as long with the same principles.

Besides, if science can make people not get all decrepit and shit, then I'm sure they can fix lol2manyppl pretty easily. Just make goddamn farm greenhouse skyscraper things and clone steaks, or some shit. Plus space colonies. No problem. Science prevails. Fuck yeah.

Sadly, we already need this.

Happy belated Thanksgiving everyone. (Well, Americans/Canadians - or anyone else who might possibly celebrate it.)

Well, my point was really just that that the scientists were able to remove a factor causing a problem then replace it to solve it. It is akin to me taking your liver, watching you get all full to toxins and then putting it back and seeing you get better. Sweet - I just proved livers work.

I dunno, man. I mean, I guess it is like taking your liver out, and then putting it back in. But the point would be more of a "Hey, you can put your liver back in" kinda thing. Which isn't all that neato when it comes to livers, since that's old news. But if they make you old as fuck and then make you young again, then going "hey, you can make shit young again" is pretty super-fuckin'-neato shit.

Unless I'm not understanding the article or some shit. Because I thought it was saying that they just forced the aging process, and just made the mice get old as fuck really fast. I figure once you're old, then you're old. No going back. Which is different than getting fucked up and then getting better, like what the liver analogy is more akin to. Your liver sucks, you get fucked up, they fix your liver, you get better. But when you get old, you're fucked. You don't get younger.

I dunno. I'm not all that knowledgeable when it comes to this shit. So I could definitely be wrong. And I'm totally biased, because I want to battle at maximum efficiency for all eternity and shit. So I dunno.

Farm skyscrapers. Which means we are one step closer to this http://idigitalcitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/1024x768-cybertron.jpg

edit: That www.futuretimeline.net site is the shit.

just for this .. that site is pretty awesome mane

I shall translate this.

The researchers genetically engineered mice that lacked telomerase, an enzyme that stops telomeres from shortening. As such, the telomeres rapidly grew shorter and the mice aged quickly, developing all the signs of old age including damaged organs, a shrinking brain, and infertility. The researchers then injected the mice with a cocktail that reactivated their telomerase. This didn’t just slow the aging process, but actually reversed the effects of aging, essentially making the mice grow younger.

This is part of the article in question. The mice were genetically altered to lack an enzyme called telomerase. Its purpose is to stop this portion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomere) of your DNA from shortening. Appearently when the telomere shortens it is a big factor in the matter of the aging process, given that the mice that didn't have telomerase had a lot of bad organs as a result of not having telomerase at all. When they were given the magical "Youth of Mouse" formula, somehow their organs regenerated to a more youthful state which is the shit (Progress).

But rejuvenating old organs in mice does not necessarily mean a human treatment is on the way, the researchers warn. For one, mice make telomerase throughout their lives, but the enzyme is switched off in adult humans, as it can cause unchecked cell replication (read: cancer). None of the mice in the study developed cancer, but there’s no telling if human tissues would tolerate the treatment so well.

But the big difference between them and us is that mice produce this enzyme their entire lives whereas we don't. We only produce this enzyme until a certain point in all of our lives, which is different for each person. The article is also saying that the scientists are afraid that if this process is done on humans, then it may not end up as well as it did for the mice. But it is possible that it can work though. They need to find guniea pigs for this to find out in the name of science.

tl dr; This means that basically, you will still be old on the outside, but your organs will be good as new if this process works for us. It may not be the "Fountain of Youth", but this is also a big stepping stone toward immortality nonetheless in my opinion. Eventually, they will do this and it may be sooner than that website predicted.

edit:To those that don't already know, the stuff in italics comes from that article about aging

Canadian thanksgiving was like forever ago, months.
just saying

Just some corrections/expansions to your post, Kinako.

We only produce this enzyme until a certain point in all of our lives, which is different for each person.

Telomerase is produced mainly in fetal stage and once the fetus reaches a certain stage (normally a few weeks before birth), the production is stopped in all cells with the exception of certain cells of the nervous, immune and reproductive systems, that in time will diminish production until shutdown. This shutdown happens to nervous and immune system at the teen years; menopause and "andropause" (I put in quotations since it's a medical condition, not an actual phase of a man's body) are the shutdown for the reproductive system.

This means that basically, you will still be old on the outside, but your organs will be good as new if this process works for us.

The biggest organ of the human body is the skin, so if other organs are repaired, so is the skin.

Just some corrections/expansions to your post, Kinako.



Telomerase is produced mainly in fetal stage and once the fetus reaches a certain stage (normally a few weeks before birth), the production is stopped in all cells with the exception of certain cells of the nervous, immune and reproductive systems, that in time will diminish production until shutdown. This shutdown happens to nervous and immune system at the teen years; menopause and "andropause" (I put in quotations since it's a medical condition, not an actual phase of a man's body) are the shutdown for the reproductive system.



The biggest organ of the human body is the skin, so if other organs are repaired, so is the skin.

My bad. That would include this skin as well. But we will live forever in our lifetime. Now I must loot and plunder until I have enough money to buy that shit when it becomes available.

edit: now look at this shit the Brits are trying to do http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-11/robot-soldiers-could-make-better-decisions-data-strewn-battlefields-future

edit: now look at this shit the Brits are trying to do http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-11/robot-soldiers-could-make-better-decisions-data-strewn-battlefields-future

ALADDIN? Couldn't they choose a better acronym for robot soldiers? -.-'

And I read the whole article, and no mention of Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics? Creating a robot soldier without those laws is just asking for disaster.

Yeah that is gonna be some Skynet type shit going on there

I agree. My money is still on antibiotic-resistant TB. Had a few flu scares but they seem all talk.


Pretty scary scenario. Reminds me a bit of a Fringe episode, where a, stereotypically, a "crazy Neo-Nazi" developed a virus which kills people who have a certain biological trait, like eyecolor etc. And yeah, he kills a some Jews and wants to hit an Africa Culture thing.

But sadly, I have no doubt, that such a biological weapon will be available one day. And I also have no doubt, that it will be used. Humanity is so good with eradicating itself.

I dunno, man. I mean, I guess it is like taking your liver out, and then putting it back in. But the point would be more of a "Hey, you can put your liver back in" kinda thing. Which isn't all that neato when it comes to livers, since that's old news. But if they make you old as fuck and then make you young again, then going "hey, you can make shit young again" is pretty super-fuckin'-neato shit.

Unless I'm not understanding the article or some shit. Because I thought it was saying that they just forced the aging process, and just made the mice get old as fuck really fast. I figure once you're old, then you're old. No going back. Which is different than getting fucked up and then getting better, like what the liver analogy is more akin to. Your liver sucks, you get fucked up, they fix your liver, you get better. But when you get old, you're fucked. You don't get younger.

I dunno. I'm not all that knowledgeable when it comes to this shit. So I could definitely be wrong. And I'm totally biased, because I want to battle at maximum efficiency for all eternity and shit. So I dunno.

OK, I get you. If you can stand some nerdspeak, I'll explain what I mean.

The experiment didn't drive natural aging faster, but rather removed a natural process that led to the mimicry of cell, i.e. the lack of the repair mechanism for the telomeres, led to the cells reaching senescence or the point to which they won't divide, thus mimicking old age. True old age is a process that involves so much more, particularly changes in DNA activity and protein processing (or lack thereof). This is not reflected in this model. This model produces a lack of cells and rapid breakdown of body function. Again mimicking old age. I would argue that these mice were able to regain "youth" because their cells and, more importantly, their DNA didn't "think" they were old.

An example. Dolly the cloned sheep. They took an adult cell and inserted the nuclear material into an ova and created an exact clone of the adult sheep. What came from that is a newborn "adult" sheep. All of its cells acted if they were adult and the sheep did not grow or mature in a normal fashion. Essentially, if we were to take a cell from a 25 year old human, clone them and raise them from ova, the newborn would be essentially 25 years old, even though it would look like a baby. It would not have any of the youth or fetal programs that give to normal development and its lifespan would be severely shortened.

The field that has come from this is epigenetics. It basically describes the state your DNA is in. There are several DNA modifications that can promote or hinder transcription/activation of numerous genes. Some are hard to reverse. There are many many fetal programs that represent this - these are genes that work when you develop but shut off once born or soon after. A cool one is one I work in, the immune system. The immune system is a defense in the adult life, but in the fetal world, where you don't need it, the same programs or alterations are active in organs (in my case, heart) for development. These programs are "silenced" by DNA modification once you are born. There is evidence that they can be reactivated in times of severe disease or stress, and we try to figure it out so we can take advantage of it for therapy or prevention.

But I digress. The liver analogy was just an example of how I view their techniques. Yes, cool, but yields only so much pertinent information in my mind. The biggest finding is not that the cells became "youthful" again but rather that they could deliver telomerase to the cells. But then, we've developed many methods for that. I would like to see more control over the system in such a delivery method to prevent any sort of neoplasms from such a treatment.

But again, this is probably quibbles. This is what I get from the press release, which is naturally weak on the actual sceintific method used. Once the inevitable paper is out, I will read it and get a better idea of what is going on.

And I'll make you a deal. If I come across any ideas for longevity research, I'll make sure it gets out to improve all our chances of a long and wondrous life. I don't want to live any shorter than I have to either.

Which is amusing because probably handling all the lab chemicals will give me cancer one day. Oh the irony!

Pretty scary scenario. Reminds me a bit of a Fringe episode, where a, stereotypically, a "crazy Neo-Nazi" developed a virus which kills people who have a certain biological trait, like eyecolor etc. And yeah, he kills a some Jews and wants to hit an Africa Culture thing.

But sadly, I have no doubt, that such a biological weapon will be available one day. And I also have no doubt, that it will be used. Humanity is so good with eradicating itself.

The really scary thing is we have antibiotic-resistant TB and it wasn't a part of any biological weapon. That's just our technology mixing with nature.

OK, I get you. If you can stand some nerdspeak, I'll explain what I mean.

The experiment didn't drive natural aging faster, but rather removed a natural process that led to the mimicry of cell, i.e. the lack of the repair mechanism for the telomeres, led to the cells reaching senescence or the point to which they won't divide, thus mimicking old age. True old age is a process that involves so much more, particularly changes in DNA activity and protein processing (or lack thereof). This is not reflected in this model. This model produces a lack of cells and rapid breakdown of body function. Again mimicking old age. I would argue that these mice were able to regain "youth" because their cells and, more importantly, their DNA didn't "think" they were old.

An example. Dolly the cloned sheep. They took an adult cell and inserted the nuclear material into an ova and created an exact clone of the adult sheep. What came from that is a newborn "adult" sheep. All of its cells acted if they were adult and the sheep did not grow or mature in a normal fashion. Essentially, if we were to take a cell from a 25 year old human, clone them and raise them from ova, the newborn would be essentially 25 years old, even though it would look like a baby. It would not have any of the youth or fetal programs that give to normal development and its lifespan would be severely shortened.

The field that has come from this is epigenetics. It basically describes the state your DNA is in. There are several DNA modifications that can promote or hinder transcription/activation of numerous genes. Some are hard to reverse. There are many many fetal programs that represent this - these are genes that work when you develop but shut off once born or soon after. A cool one is one I work in, the immune system. The immune system is a defense in the adult life, but in the fetal world, where you don't need it, the same programs or alterations are active in organs (in my case, heart) for development. These programs are "silenced" by DNA modification once you are born. There is evidence that they can be reactivated in times of severe disease or stress, and we try to figure it out so we can take advantage of it for therapy or prevention.

But I digress. The liver analogy was just an example of how I view their techniques. Yes, cool, but yields only so much pertinent information in my mind. The biggest finding is not that the cells became "youthful" again but rather that they could deliver telomerase to the cells. But then, we've developed many methods for that. I would like to see more control over the system in such a delivery method to prevent any sort of neoplasms from such a treatment.

But again, this is probably quibbles. This is what I get from the press release, which is naturally weak on the actual sceintific method used. Once the inevitable paper is out, I will read it and get a better idea of what is going on.

And I'll make you a deal. If I come across any ideas for longevity research, I'll make sure it gets out to improve all our chances of a long and wondrous life. I don't want to live any shorter than I have to either.

Which is amusing because probably handling all the lab chemicals will give me cancer one day. Oh the irony!
You deal with things in this field irl don't you?

^ yep. Doing my PhD. At least, keep an eye on top research till I can use it. I briefly met the woman who developed the research on telomerase that is the basis for this research. She's won a Nobel prize for it now.

Not bad ACT. Not bad at all. What exactly are you gettin your PhD in if you don't mind me asking?

Think this came up in "what do you do" thread, but cardiac physiology, particularly working in cardiac disease and biochemical mechanisms we can exploit for therapy.

My bad. I didn't look at that thread. I will go on ahead and take a look see now.

The really scary thing is we have antibiotic-resistant TB and it wasn't a part of any biological weapon. That's just our technology mixing with nature.

Shall we make bets when the first bacteria will be released in a weapon? And where? Middle East or Russia are my first guesses. Social and political consequences would be horrible.

On a sidenote, what do you Americans think about the new Wikileaks data, which has been made accessable to the public? Do they fuss about it as much as our medias? And how do you judge the impact on global diplomacy, if you think there will be any.

I read through it and literally fell asleep on my computer.

I was scanning through it for aliens or extra-terrestrials. It didn't had none of that there. I read about 3-4 and done a few scans on others.

To me nothing special. :\

But the worst part is that we would still die from diseases even if we use telomerase to make our cells infinitely replicate because they think they're still "young." unless you'll take out an organ and regrow said organ everytime something messes up.

I read through it and literally fell asleep on my computer.

I was scanning through it for aliens or extra-terrestrials. It didn't had none of that there. I read about 3-4 and done a few scans on others.

To me nothing special. :\

Wait. You expected to read about extraterrestrial life in diplomatic cables from US diplomats? I'd think you have no idea what you are talking about, if that was an answer to my post.

That's easy fix on the diseases part, we just need to take Magic Johnson's DNA.

Yeah. That ^

OK, I get you. If you can stand some nerdspeak, I'll explain what I mean.

The experiment didn't drive natural aging faster, but rather removed a natural process that led to the mimicry of cell, i.e. the lack of the repair mechanism for the telomeres, led to the cells reaching senescence or the point to which they won't divide, thus mimicking old age. True old age is a process that involves so much more, particularly changes in DNA activity and protein processing (or lack thereof). This is not reflected in this model. This model produces a lack of cells and rapid breakdown of body function. Again mimicking old age. I would argue that these mice were able to regain "youth" because their cells and, more importantly, their DNA didn't "think" they were old.

An example. Dolly the cloned sheep. They took an adult cell and inserted the nuclear material into an ova and created an exact clone of the adult sheep. What came from that is a newborn "adult" sheep. All of its cells acted if they were adult and the sheep did not grow or mature in a normal fashion. Essentially, if we were to take a cell from a 25 year old human, clone them and raise them from ova, the newborn would be essentially 25 years old, even though it would look like a baby. It would not have any of the youth or fetal programs that give to normal development and its lifespan would be severely shortened.

The field that has come from this is epigenetics. It basically describes the state your DNA is in. There are several DNA modifications that can promote or hinder transcription/activation of numerous genes. Some are hard to reverse. There are many many fetal programs that represent this - these are genes that work when you develop but shut off once born or soon after. A cool one is one I work in, the immune system. The immune system is a defense in the adult life, but in the fetal world, where you don't need it, the same programs or alterations are active in organs (in my case, heart) for development. These programs are "silenced" by DNA modification once you are born. There is evidence that they can be reactivated in times of severe disease or stress, and we try to figure it out so we can take advantage of it for therapy or prevention.

But I digress. The liver analogy was just an example of how I view their techniques. Yes, cool, but yields only so much pertinent information in my mind. The biggest finding is not that the cells became "youthful" again but rather that they could deliver telomerase to the cells. But then, we've developed many methods for that. I would like to see more control over the system in such a delivery method to prevent any sort of neoplasms from such a treatment.

But again, this is probably quibbles. This is what I get from the press release, which is naturally weak on the actual sceintific method used. Once the inevitable paper is out, I will read it and get a better idea of what is going on.

And I'll make you a deal. If I come across any ideas for longevity research, I'll make sure it gets out to improve all our chances of a long and wondrous life. I don't want to live any shorter than I have to either.

Which is amusing because probably handling all the lab chemicals will give me cancer one day. Oh the irony!


Ohhh, alright. I think I get it then. I think...

It's like, getting old involves a lot of shit. They took just a single factor, and fucked with that. But besides that thing, the mice were actually still young and totally good to go. Then they fixed that one thing. And because everything else was still good, the mice got 'better'.

Whereas with actual old mice, fixing that one thing wouldn't make them young and battle ready. Since all that other shit would still be making them all old and shitty.

Assuming I comprehended that shit, then alright. Cool. Thanks, comrade. That's definitely not as awesome as the way I was seeing it. But still decently awesome. I still got some time before I'm old as fuck, so hopefully they get it all sorted out by then. If not, or I die gloriously in battle beforehand, then oh well. I'll just get my battle on in Valhalla instead. So it's all good.

Wait. You expected to read about extraterrestrial life in diplomatic cables from US diplomats? I'd think you have no idea what you are talking about, if that was an answer to my post.

Yeah. It said CONFIDENTIAL/CLASSIFIED STUFF.

I thought it was gonna be shit like this exposed.

Edit. Government hiding shit. I do a lot of researching on UFOs.

How old are you Mibs? I'm guessing 22 or 21.

But the worst part is that we would still die from diseases even if we use telomerase to make our cells infinitely replicate because they think they're still "young." unless you'll take out an organ and regrow said organ everytime something messes up.

disregard this post, I found a solution: stem cell research.

If not, or I die gloriously in battle beforehand, then oh well. I'll just get my battle on in Valhalla instead. So it's all good.

Isn't Valhalla where vikings go when they die or something like that? I'm reading this book called The Wanderer's Necklace and they talk about Valhalla a lot. :O

Reverse aging? Egghhh. Creepy.

Edit. Government hiding shit.
The founder of WikiLeaks is an anarchist, anti-American prick. Not an alien nerd. Not baggin' on you (or I might be), just clarifying that you two have very different priorities.

Isn't Valhalla where vikings go when they die or something like that?


It is, they are guided there by the Valkyries. In Valhalla, they sit at Odins table in the Golden Hall, waiting with other worthy warriors until Ragnarök, the last battle. So you see, there is an even more glorious battle awaiting in Valhalla.

The founder of WikiLeaks is an anarchist, anti-American prick.

At last, a serious comment. I wouldn't call him an anarchist, but yeah, he is definitly anti-Amercian. His biased mongering against the US politics is bullshit. I'd like to see him publish some stuff about China, Russia or Israel. He wouldn't even survive half a year.

Isn't Valhalla where vikings go when they die or something like that? I'm reading this book called The Wanderer's Necklace and they talk about Valhalla a lot. :O

Reverse aging? Egghhh. Creepy.

Valhalla is the Viking form of heaven. When a warrior dies a glorious death in battle, Odin's valkyries bring their souls to this place. It's described as a golden mead hall where the warrior souls drink and feast until called upon for Ragnarok.

In the book I was talking about, the Northmen are like viking warriors and they worship Odin. They have this cool call before running into battle: "Valhalla! Valhalla! Victory or Valhalla!"

I finally understand what the hell that means now. Is Ragnarök a person? What is the last battle?

Viking stuff is very interesting. They have cool looking boats too. :D

Ragnarok is the viking version of the end times. It consists of a massive battle between Odin and his fellow gods fighting Loki and his giants.

In the book I was talking about, the Northmen are like viking warriors and they worship Odin. They have this cool call before running into battle: "Valhalla! Valhalla! Victory or Valhalla!"

I finally understand what the hell that means now. Is Ragnarök a person? What is the last battle?

Viking stuff is very interesting. They have cool looking boats too. :D

Young one you have much to learn. Ragnarök is the prelude to the last battle. In the battle, some gods will die but after winning, they will be reborn again and the flooded world will be populated again. And their boats are called Dragonboats.

Woah. Who's Loki? Is that like Odin's enemy?

Nerox: After the last battle, what happens to all the viking souls? Are they reborn too?

Dragonboats. Awesome. =D

Loki is the leader of the jotun, or giants. The giants, in Norse mythology, stand against the Aesir and Vanir, or the good Pantheon. Loki is also the father of Hel, goddess of the underworld. He is one of the gods to die during Ragnarok.

Oh. That's intense. What's the Pantheon? (Sorry about all of the questions, I'm curious.)

Woah. Who's Loki? Is that like Odin's enemy?

Nerox: After the last battle, what happens to all the viking souls? Are they reborn too?

Dragonboats. Awesome. =D

Loki is said to be a god and a giant (jötuun). He is often the antagonist of the gods, but sometimes he helps them. He is the father of Hel (mistress of the underworld), the wolf Fenrir and the "world serpent" Jörmungandr, Sleipnir the eight-legged horse and Nari/Norfi. He is said to be very treacherous and tricky.

Canon says, that the world will be repopulated by two humans I think. The warriors souls will not be revived. Wheather they stay in Valhalla or not, I don't know.

I see. What about the warriors souls that DON'T die?

I see. What about the warriors souls that DON'T die?

Probably staying in Valhalla then. But you should read more of that stuff on the internet. And listen to Amon Amarth. Epic.

Oh. That's intense. What's the Pantheon? (Sorry about all of the questions, I'm curious.)

No need to apologize for curiosity. A Pantheon is a gathering of powerful people. The Norse Pantheon consists of the Aesir and Vanir, or the tribes the gods are from. The biggest names in the Pantheon are Odin, Thor, Freyja, Frig, Baldr (whose murder causes Loki to be bound and tortured by venom dripping on him, which is caught by his wife Sigyn until she has to empty the bowl, allowing some of the venom to drip into Loki and his thrashing causes earthquakes), and Freyr. Those are the ones I can list off the top of my head

I don't know who Amon Amarth is. :O

I shall look more into that stuff. Very interesting. =D

Did anyone see How To Train Your Dragon?

Kael: I've heard of Thor before. I thought he was a Greek god. The dude with the hammer, right?

Yes, the one with the hammer. Thor is the son of Odin and the hammer is called Mjollnir. He's not from Greek mythology and his name is actually the base for Thursday.

I did not know that. Awesome. =D The thing about Thursday is a cool little fact to carry around.

Amon Amarth is a metal band. They play Death Metal with awesome norse mythology lyrics.

And yes, saw that movie. Was pretty strange, but well it was okay, because most of the vikings were manly in the beginning.

I know a lot of trivial facts that most people don't care about. Most, if not all, of the days take their root from Norse gods. Wednesday is based on Odin, as the germanic form of Odin was Woden. So "Wednesday" can translate to "Odin's Day".

I know a lot of trivial facts that most people don't care about. Most, if not all, of the days take their root from Norse gods. Wednesday is based on Odin, as the germanic form of Odin was Woden. So "Wednesday" can translate to "Odin's Day".

It is actually Wotan.

Death Metal band with norse mythology lyrics?! That now equals auto-awesome. I must check them out.

Ever heard of Nile? Egyptian death metal. =D

I liked that movie. The dragon was cute. =D I got pissed at the end though cause his foot got torn off. -__-

Kael: I love trivial tidbits. I had no idea about the days of the week thing. =D That's pretty cool.

It is actually Wotan.

In Old High Germanic. In Proto-Germanic it was originally Wodinaz, or Wodanaz.


@purple: you'd be surprised what little things people hear but don't know the origin of. I actually explained the origin of "stuck betwee a rock and a hard place" to a friend while explaining who Scylla and Charibdis were in the Trivium song "Torn between Scylla and Charibdis"

In Old High Germanic. In Proto-Germanic it was originally Wodinaz, or Wodanaz.

Okay, if you (wikipedia?) say so. ^^ I only knew he was called Wotan in "a" germanic language.

I'll admit. I got that one from wikipedia. But I knew before that "Woden" and "Wotan" were differing names for the anglicized "Odin"

Hahaha. Well I dunno what "stuck between a rock and a hard place" means either. :P

Oh fuck. I'm coughing blood. -_____- Gotta make a trip to the Emergency room. See you guys later.

That sounds very very bad. Get better.

And "stuck between a rock and a hard place" is a saying that means "you have 2 options, and they both suck".

Hahaha. Well I dunno what "stuck between a rock and a hard place" means either. :P

Oh fuck. I'm coughing blood. -_____- Gotta make a trip to the Emergency room. See you guys later.*

Lol@Women and their inferior bodies.

Holy Hole in a Donut!!!!

Hmmm, all this norse gods talk. If only there was a story about that for people to read... hmmm...

The founder of WikiLeaks is an anarchist, anti-American prick. Not an alien nerd. Not baggin' on you (or I might be), just clarifying that you two have very different priorities.

Agreed. Just another case of the Internet "if we can, we should." Why do secrets bother people so?

Oh fuck. I'm coughing blood. -_____- Gotta make a trip to the Emergency room. See you guys later.

Uh... wow. Did anyone just read that with the same inflection as someone who forgot to take the trash out on garbage day? Hope it's nothing too serious, purple.

Maybe they think the public cant handle the truth

Shall we make bets when the first bacteria will be released in a weapon? And where? Middle East or Russia are my first guesses. Social and political consequences would be horrible.

On a sidenote, what do you Americans think about the new Wikileaks data, which has been made accessable to the public? Do they fuss about it as much as our medias? And how do you judge the impact on global diplomacy, if you think there will be any.They're making a fuss about it. Some of the more logical people are pointing out that The New York Times and several other "legitimate" news outlets should also be facing the same scrutiny because they also published the leaks.

Maybe they think the public cant handle the truthMost of them can't, in the sense that they don't understand how the world operates and will get angry about the wrong things.

They're making a fuss about it. Some of the more logical people are pointing out that The New York Times and several other "legitimate" news outlets should also be facing the same scrutiny because they also published the leaks.

Most of them can't, in the sense that they don't understand how the world operates and will get angry about the wrong things.

Yeah same here. Well the public always was hysteric about petty things. What did they expect diplomatic cables to sound like? Luckily the we have currently no too populisitc politicians.

I was actually going the other way. These wikileaks people seem to think that governments and agencies have no right to secrecy - I want to know why? The world of politics is full of backroom deals, being polite to someone you may detest face and not showing all your cards. What of this is so utterly wrong? Do we need to know that the CIA think Pakistan is a country full of jerks that may get us killed one day? Isn't it more important that they just do?

Maybe just maybe those guys at wiki leak want to be at the hotspot.

C'mon govt back dealing stories always attract attention and leaking a whole lot of them will get the media vulture swooping around like crazy.

Like aka said, politics is a dirty business. Theres the official diplomatic channel and theres the unofficial diplomatic channel.

Officially we want the ICBM out of Turkey

Unofficially we want Sokolov back.

I am not exactly sure what you mean ACT, sorry, but I think the goverment has a right to secrecy. There are enough stupid people who will make a big deal out of things the government does. Like the Tea Party for example. These leaks could be used by populistic polititians to gang up on the USA, or warmongers could use the chance to heat up the public against Pakistan for example. So those leaks being secret is totally understandable for me.

That those documents are accessable to every US governement employee, and the more secret stuff is still accessable to 850,000 people it was only a question of time until they would be made public.

And everybody in Germany knows, that our foreign minister is gay, arogant and has no political substance what so ever. Why should a diplomat withhold such a observation?

What ACT is saying in politics sometimes the deal that they make is questionable. Let say one country wants something, but not officially. That means the media have no idea what its about. Sometimes they wants weapon supply, military aid, assasination, things if go public will cause a lot of tension.

What ACT is saying in politics sometimes the deal that they make is questionable. Let say one country wants something, but not officially. That means the media have no idea what its about. Sometimes they wants weapon supply, military aid, assasination, things if go public will cause a lot of tension.

Yes I got that. He said so in a sentence. I just had problems indentifiying which position he takes. Just did it, and my post is still accurate.

Govt needs their secrets to make everything smooth/

Unless they give project to their cronies. I really hate that.

I want to know why the people who support wikileaks feel secrecy is bad and felt the compulsion to make sure the US government would lose its secrets. I think it goes along the line of what LN said about them being anarchists who want to willingly spread discord and hinder international diplomacy in the process.

I accept the idea that countries and agencies will play nice and say good things but in private curse the countries they work with to high hell. It is natural.

I accept the idea that countries and agencies will play nice and say good things but in private curse the countries they work with to high hell. It is natural.

The world is but a village, everyone seems like to be getting along but in the refuge of their houses the pleasantries are thrown away. It shouldn't shock anyone that has common sense and knows some History.

I want to know why the people who support wikileaks feel secrecy is bad and felt the compulsion to make sure the US government would lose I think it goes along the line of what LN said about them being anarchists who want to willingly spread discord and hinder international diplomacy in the process.

That or they are conspiracy theorists, that thrive on the secrecy of governments and want the "true truth" to come out just to check if their wild speculations are confirmed or not. I bet the majority of them are utterly disappointed by what has been leaked.

I think in the middle of this I identify myself with what Waldorf and Statler once mocked: "It seems that a lot of people are plotting to take over the world." "This world? Who would want it?"

Is there anything in Wikileaks about the connection between Area 51, aliens and flying saucers?

Maybe those wikileaks supporters hoping for another watergate scandal

-wiki leaks-
Firstly as a US citizen I think that wikileaks has its right to publish, and bring the light any of these stories they wish. Just like the people whom make up the content of the articles have the right to try and mask their activities.

That being said just because you are unaware of something does not necessarily mean someone is trying to keep the information secret. Simply that you have not look hard enough to find it yourself. Additionally I read some articles way back when from WL(I no longer seem to have access to the site for anything current). None of it was particularly earth shattering news. Some of it while informative, is a lot of day one political shenanigans, and corporate espionage. Frankly discovering some ambiguous cabinet member is surreptitiously collection stats on a foreign diplomat. Or that soldiers oversees are stealing religious artifacts. Is not particularly shocking. While in some cases deplorable its unfortunately to be expected. Just as many similar stories are brought to the mainstream media.

I was more shocked and weirded out by that nonsense story about the secret service collecting presidential fecal matter for incineration. Then most of the older wikileak stuff I can remember.


-Secrecy vs Right to know-
If by some cosmic miracle. I became a major player in the political, financial or corporate arenas. I would expect a certain level of privacy. Perhaps even be willing, and justified within my own conscience to keep secrets. If I truly felt it was the right course of action. Not being in any of those positions I can not say for sure how I would act. Being on the outside looking in, its easy for me to say that I would stick to the strictest of ethical standards. I believe I would, but yet to have been put to that kind of test who knows.

On the flip side if you are someone who actively seeks to be an informed global citizen. I feel it is a right, and obligation to stay aware of such matters. Whether national or international alike. Globalization is a very real almost societal evolutionary force. That touches and directs virtually every conceivable field of interest. The question should then become are you willing to help cultivate a universal phenomenon through said interest. Into something that benefits all of mankind? Or would you allow those who would subvert the rights of others. Perverting a seemingly inevitable system while still in their infancies. Used to exploit a majority, while satiating only a few. To maintain unequivocal and unmonitored control? I say nay!

Off hand I can think of one primary example from my own country. At one point in time it was constitutionally required for congress to 'open the books' as it where to the public. An annual publication that documented the full budget and spending policies of congress. Where the money came from, and where/how it was used. Seems like a perfectly reasonable policy for a democracy to practice. As I'm aware (at-least from within my life time) there has been no such documentation available to the citizenry.

Now in the midst of economic turmoil, it seems logical that this information would be readily available to any who feels that they can contribute. Mind you, I am no CPA. However amongst all the fools. There has to be a few pretty smart guys and gals. Who if given the opportunity to review the financial figures. Might just be able to bring a unique and prosperous solution to the table.

Perhaps many are content to remain ignorant, but I would personally feel better for the worlds sake. Knowing I have access to the policies and actions of the government that represents ME. But so speaks a legend in his own mind=/

tl;dr Read that shit what else you have to do.

OUT OF THE HOSPITAL! =D

Fucking awesome banner by the way. :D Beats the shit out of the old one.

Yeahhhhhhh, we finally got a new banner. Fuck yeah.

About this wikileaks shit. I do think this stuff should have stayed secret, but at the same time there was nothing really shocking about any of it. In fact some of this shit was pretty awesome.

I'm starting to really like this King Abdullah dude. Who knew Saudi Arabia had such an awesome fucking leader. He basically said we need to go into Iran and wreck their shit....Hardcore. "Cut the head off the snake" was his actually quote. That and we need to put tracking devices in Guantanamo detainees and track their movements after we let them go. The one of our pussy ass diplomats was all like "Oh, Noez we can't do that. It will violate their civil rights." So Saudi King dude was like, "well why don't we just release them back on the battlefield and put some bullets in their ass next time instead of taking them alive." Then our pussy ass diplomat dude was all like, "but we got to take care of our prisoners and shit." Then awesome Saudi dude was like, "we can put them in our prisons. They're fucking hell holes compared to your pussy ass detention center." Then the dude in charge of Yemen is like "Hey Gaiz, if your got any Yemenis prisoners, we'll take them. Our prisons are way fucking worse then the Saudi's. Where we come from, being anally violated is a good day in prison." Then as usual our pussy ass diplomat wouldn't agree to to it.

tl;dr, King Abdullah is a cool dude. We could learn much from him.

Forgive me for my childish/noob comment but Odin and ragnorek and valhalla was shown on an episode of Billy and Mandy.(you probably don't know that show.) pretty cool dudes and they fought to the death after their feast and repeated the cycle again and again.

...I used to watch Billy and Mandy. Weird show.


Has anyone noticed how gay Spongebob has gotten? Like, in the new episodes, the guys always cross their legs like chicks instead of sitting like real guys. It's irritating. -_____-

Since when was Spongebob not gay?

IN THE FIRST EPISODES. After around 2007, episodes got super faggy.

I watched Spongebob a lot because of my 4 yr old niece and my friend's 4 yr old son watch it. Was gay when it first aired and it's still gay.

I refuse to acknowledge that I have any clue what any of you are talking about 5 posts up.

Lol, Spongebob.

Alright. I admit Spongebob is pretty gay. But it used to be entertaining. =D

Shows like Adventure Time on the otherhand are AMAZING! :D

I watch shows like Manswers.<----spike tv.

I watched Manswers once. Some bitch with 40 pound boobs smashed a beer can with them. -___-

Manswers is infinitely more gay than any episode of Spongebob.

Just youtube'd Manswers, and saw lots of tits and asses.

Don't see how random, nonsensical show about tits and asses can be worse then a sponge.

Nah it's cool because they are facts. Only watched season 1. Starting to watch 1000 ways to die.

Don't know what manswers is, but I do know that real men don't need to ask questions. So, ergo...

I watch cartoons. And Discovery channel. And movie channels. That's about it. I'm not a rabid TV watcher.

Canadian thanksgiving was like forever ago, months.
just saying
Well, now I know. I should have looked it up before saying anything, but I know now.
Young one you have much to learn. Ragnarök is the prelude to the last battle. In the battle, some gods will die but after winning, they will be reborn again and the flooded world will be populated again. And their boats are called Dragonboats.
This.
Hahaha. Well I dunno what "stuck between a rock and a hard place" means either. :P

Oh fuck. I'm coughing blood. -_____- Gotta make a trip to the Emergency room. See you guys later.
Did you find out why you were coughing up blood? I coughed up blood when I was a lot younger because of some hockey related injury - couldn't play for a little bit. Never found out why either.
Nah it's cool because they are facts. Only watched season 1. Starting to watch 1000 ways to die.
I watched the show once, for about 4 minutes, and found it to be horribly stupid. Maybe its just me. They were talking about a clown peeing on an electric fence or some shit, I don't know - it was a while ago.

Seen Manswers. It's definitely gay, and not manly.



I don't know how to cook shit. I can grill shit, like steaks and burgers. And I can make sandwiches. But that's pretty much it. Which sucks, because it's getting cold and shitty out, so grilling is less of an option. And sandwiches are awesome, but most of them aren't warm. And sometimes I feel like eating warm food.

So I'm trying to think of manly shit that I can eat during the winter. Stew is pretty damn manly, and it looks pretty easy as fuck to make if you get one of those crock pot thingers. Which are also cheap as fuck. So doing that.

Was going to just get a dehydrator thinger and just eat beef jerky all the time, but dehydrator thingers are kinda expensive. So fuck that. At least for now.

Only other shit I can think of that is manly to eat are those massive hunks of meat wrapped around that big ass bone thing that you see knights and vikings and shit like that eating in movies and whatnot. But I think I've already got a good selection of meat in my diet already. So eh.

Did you find out why you were coughing up blood? I coughed up blood when I was a lot younger because of some hockey related injury - couldn't play for a little bit. Never found out why either.


Well, I went to the ER last night and told them I was coughing that shit up. My chest hurt like hell and I had breathing issues. UGH. They let me talk to my doctor and he tried to put me in one of those MRI things. Didn't go so well. I had a claustrophobic panic attack and flipped out inside. About an hour after they pulled me out and gave me a shitload of meds, I got a regular old X-ray. Turns out one of my ribs are broken and they didn't know about it. That fucked something up inside me apparently, and they told me a bunch of doctor mumbo jumbo bullshit that I didn't understand.(still was hyped up on meds at the time.) So in other words, I don't know exactly where the blood is coming from. But now I have a broken collarbone, AND a broken rib. I have to wear a freaking sling. I don't get it. My ARM isn't broken. -___-

The sling is to keep your arm immobilized so it doesn't jar your collarbone.

Edit: I had to warn the doctors ahead of time that I'm claustrophobic when I had to get an MRI on my knee. They gave me a drug that relaxed me... a lot. I didn't go to school that day and spent the rest of the day playing Diablo 2 while high off my ass.

At least it was just a broken rib. Those heal up pretty fast.

Lucky. The shit they gave me AFTER the MRI incident made really loopy... What is that stuff anyway?

I couldn't warn them ahead of time. I didn't even realize I was claustrophobic until now. Usually when I have panic attacks in crowds and on buses and shit, people just tell me I'm overheating. -___-

Mibs: If you like cheesy, meaty kind of stuff, buy some macaroni and cheese (or make some from scratch) and cook it, then add huge chunks of meat and some peppers. Season it up with some salt and other such things, then pour it into a casserole dish. Bake it in the oven for like 30-45 minutes, then take it out. Crunchy, crispy, cheesy, meaty deliciousness. =D

@NN: what episode are you talking about? Clowns peeing on fences? I must've missed it because I only saw a couple of episodes. Anyway 1000 ways to die is better. Anyone know the name of that show when they pin warriors against each other to see who would win? An example is the Spartan against the ninja dude and ninja dude got wrecked.

@NN: what episode are you talking about? Clowns peeing on fences? I must've missed it because I only saw a couple of episodes. Anyway 1000 ways to die is better. Anyone know the name of that show when they pin warriors against each other to see who would win? An example is the Spartan against the ninja dude and ninja dude got wrecked.

Deadliest Warriors. A pretty damn decent show in my opinion.

One of the few shows I watch nowadays besides for Life and House. (Used to watch Criminal Minds)

But, I don't have cable anyway.

Deadliest Warrior.

That show would be WAY better if they got rid of the gay kid dude that runs the simulation program thing.

How bad is your clausterphobia(word?) kael and purple?

How bad is your clausterphobia(word?) kael and purple?

I dunno. Like on a scale of 1 to 10?

It's "claustrophobia". Mine isn't extremely debilitating. I can go into relatively small spaces with little anxiety. But if I can't move my arms and legs I will have a major panic attack.

If that's how he is, then I probably have it bad. I can't get into small spaces without freaking out. Like, when I'm in a seat with two people on a bus, but on the window side? I panic. It sucks. Plus I'm pretty anti-social when it comes to people, and that makes public buses a last resort. I really need to get a license.

@purple: on a scale of 1-10.

Seen Manswers. It's definitely gay, and not manly.



I don't know how to cook shit. I can grill shit, like steaks and burgers. And I can make sandwiches. But that's pretty much it. Which sucks, because it's getting cold and shitty out, so grilling is less of an option. And sandwiches are awesome, but most of them aren't warm. And sometimes I feel like eating warm food.

So I'm trying to think of manly shit that I can eat during the winter. Stew is pretty damn manly, and it looks pretty easy as fuck to make if you get one of those crock pot thingers. Which are also cheap as fuck. So doing that.

Was going to just get a dehydrator thinger and just eat beef jerky all the time, but dehydrator thingers are kinda expensive. So fuck that. At least for now.

Only other shit I can think of that is manly to eat are those massive hunks of meat wrapped around that big ass bone thing that you see knights and vikings and shit like that eating in movies and whatnot. But I think I've already got a good selection of meat in my diet already. So eh.

I can post a lot of hearty man-food recipes if you like. I know an awesome stew that takes a lot longer to cook than it does to prep, so you can do it all fuck-off early in the morning then just let it cook until you can eat.

@purple: on a scale of 1-10.

I dunno...I guess 6? Maybe 6 1/2?

I can post a lot of hearty man-food recipes if you like. I know an awesome stew that takes a lot longer to cook than it does to prep, so you can do it all fuck-off early in the morning then just let it cook until you can eat.

An easy man stew recipe would be pretty awesome. If you don't mind, of course. <3

I just asked my brother to think off a manly recipe. He said stew. -___-

Stew is pretty damn good though. I like it with carrots and beef and potatoes and celery and shit. Tastes AWESOME.

Mibs: Do you live by yourself? Cause if you don't you could have your woman make you stew.

Stew? Never ate it. What's it taste like?

Stew? Never ate it. What's it taste like?

Like all the shit you put it in. And meet.

Edit- @mibs- You know it ain't no problem boo <3

Just give me a day or so to type it. Got like 3 papers I have to have done by tonight <_<

@littleninjaboy-What the fuck.

@purple-Nah, I live with my brother.

If I had a chick here, I wouldn't be trying to figure out how to make food. I'd be eating her food, or trying to figure out how to get her to make better food.

@Van-Thanks. I could do a paper for you, as long as they aren't massive as fuck or anything. I'm sure I can bullshit and get a non-failing grade, depending on the topic. =D

NINJA! THAT IS A SIN.

Stew is just a big, thick, meaty mix of a bunch of meat and whatever the fuck you feel like throwing in there. Like Vanity said, tastes like what you put in it. I like it with a lot of veggies and beef. It helps to toss a little beef bouillon in it for extra meaty flavor. :D

Mibs: How old is your brother? I assume he doesn't have a chick living there either, cause you'd both probably be eating HER food...

Miburo - I've been meaning to write out the classic home ec assignment were you can start with one chicken and eat for a week by progressing from roast chicken to pot pie to soup. But yeah, if you're looking for something simple and have a bit of time, roast chicken fits your meat on the bone.

Simply, chicken in roasting pan with onions and potatoes. You can stuff the bird or put some sort of herbs on it, but if you are like me and enjoy eating chicken skin, it doesn't matter. General rule is cook at 375 for 20min a pound plus an extra 20 minutes. Helps to have that meat thermometer but if you don't, you can pierce the bird - if the liquid runs clear, you are pretty good. Also, if it pink, don't eat. Good practice to also tent the chicken for 10-15 minutes after you pull it out just to be certain it cooked. If it's just you, you could eat that chicken over 2-3 meals easy.

Also, you get potatoes roasted in chicken grease - awesome.

EDIT: what's stew? Oh how I laugh.

Hell yeah, I like that skin. So I just get a chicken (Like a whole one?), throw it in a pan, and put that in the oven with some potatoes? I could probably do that. Copy and pasted into my recipe document. Fuck yeah, thanks.

I mean I ate soup and things like steak and whatnot but not stew. I might ask my mom or sister to make it but I'll wait until they make it, I don't want to risk getting cussed out. =/

Lol ninja. You do that. =D

God. Roasted chicken is amazing. I don't like the skin, but the meat is AWESOME. I like to use the leftover broth and grease and shit to make gravy for mashed potatoes the next night. =D

@ Mibs- One's on analyzing the purpose of Greek goddesses and the other is writing about how caring about myth references in every day life made me a better person.

Or some raging fucktarded gay shit like that.



A simple one.

You need-
A can of beer
A full chicken
One onion
One can of tomato paste [they're tiny as fuck, you need to make sure it's tomato [I]paste]
Salt and pepper
Crock pot <-relatively inexpensive

Be sure to clean out the gizzards of the chicken. They will make it better.

-put the chicken in the crock pot
-cut the onion in half and stuff it in to the chicken
-liberally rub the chicken with desired amount of tomato paste [I use the whole can because it makes it tasty]
-season with salt and pepper
-Pour can of beer over it

Done. Can let that cook as long as desired as well [at least 2 hours to make sure the chicken is fully cooked]

Any beer is fine. If it's a big can I'd only suggest doing half or so. Little ones you can usually do most if not all of it. Really simple/fast and it tastes awesome. Can pour it over rice but I know noodles work as well.

Mibs: How old is your brother? I assume he doesn't have a chick living there either, cause you'd both probably be eating HER food...

He's like twenty or some shit. And nah, he's kind of a total asshole, so no such luck.

I mean I ate soup and things like steak and whatnot but not stew. I might ask my mom or sister to make it but I'll wait until they make it, I don't want to risk getting cussed out. =/

How old is your sis? Also, pics of sis please.

Yeah man, that's pretty much it. Cooks better if at room temperature, but you can pull it from fridge. Also, google searches quickly add a few simple rubs or herb mixes for it. That's basically how I cook anything - google, read, go to kitchen and do whatever I remember.

He's like twenty or some shit. And nah, he's kind of a total asshole, so no such luck.



How old is your sis? Also, pics of sis please.

she's 24 and I don't have any pics lol.

I like to take a couple chicken breasts and put them on a cookie sheet, then just put olive oil, Johnnies, some Italian seasoning, and cook them. After they cook throw them onto toasted sour-dough bread with some mayo and cheese if desired. Awesome hot chicken sandwich. Your good to go. =D

@ Mibs- One's on analyzing the purpose of Greek goddesses and the other is writing about how caring about myth references in every day life made me a better person.

Or some raging fucktarded gay shit like that.



A simple one.

You need-
A can of beer
A full chicken
One onion
One can of tomato paste [they're tiny as fuck, you need to make sure it's tomato [I]paste]
Salt and pepper
Crock pot <-relatively inexpensive

Be sure to clean out the gizzards of the chicken. They will make it better.

-put the chicken in the crock pot
-cut the onion in half and stuff it in to the chicken
-liberally rub the chicken with desired amount of tomato paste [I use the whole can because it makes it tasty]
-season with salt and pepper
-Pour can of beer over it

Done. Can let that cook as long as desired as well [at least 2 hours to make sure the chicken is fully cooked]

Any beer is fine. If it's a big can I'd only suggest doing half or so. Little ones you can usually do most if not all of it. Really simple/fast and it tastes awesome. Can pour it over rice but I know noodles work as well.

Hmm. Can't even think of everyday myth references that better people...But the first one sounds pretty easy. Greek goddesses exist to cause drama, like most womenz. I could write that one. = )

And awesome, that also sounds easy as fuck. Much thanks. I'm guessing you'd cook that on crock pot high setting, yeah?

she's 24 and I don't have any pics lol.

Is she hawt? I could be your bro-in-law.

I just fry my chicken when I can't buy any KFC. But that happens a lot for some reason. I burned my first chicken and it was like eating asphalt.

I've never fried chicken. Too scared. I've never really burnt a chicken, just over-cooked them. When I make a cooking screw up, I just force my brothers to eat them. =D

It's "claustrophobia". Mine isn't extremely debilitating. I can go into relatively small spaces with little anxiety. But if I can't move my arms and legs I will have a major panic attack.

Then you cant work in maintainance building. I once have to crawl in tight spaces

Do you do maintainance kluang? I'd hate having to crawl around in tiny spaces...

Yes I do.

I just send an application to open my own gas station and I'm hoping for the best.

Gas station? Do those guys make a lot of money?

Hmm. Can't even think of everyday myth references that better people...But the first one sounds pretty easy. Greek goddesses exist to cause drama, like most womenz. I could write that one. = )

And awesome, that also sounds easy as fuck. Much thanks. I'm guessing you'd cook that on crock pot high setting, yeah?



Is she hawt? I could be your bro-in-law.

Yeah, I'm arguing that they kind of clash with misogyny, since like, there's GODDESSES and they have to be revered, regardless of sex.

Fucking Greeks and their mixed messages.




And yes, I knew I was forgetting something. Put it on high. I generally cook it for about 4 hours and that shit feels like butter @_@ And it tastes fantastic. Alcohol makes food taste awesome.

In my country, yeah. Well depend on the location

What country do you live in? I thought I heard someone say you were in the Philippines or something.

I don't know what a phobia feels like because I've never been in a scary situation in which I freaked out. =/ Can you describe it?

What ?

Philippines ?

At least they didnt say I'm Indonesian

I'm Malaysian

...Ninja. Uhhh....It's just freaky! You don't think normal and you panic, usually. Well, I do. My breathing gets heavy and I start sweating and get light headed and feel like my brain is gonna explode through my skull.

Well, that's just me anyway.

kluang: Malaysian? Hahaha alright. I thought you were in the Philippines. =D

I don't know what a phobia feels like because I've never been in a scary situation in which I freaked out. =/ Can you describe it?

Basically a phobia is an extreme panic reaction to something that you know shouldn't scare you so badly.