http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/40727763/2

Kabuto's Plot? This guy is up to something else.

On my God. I cant believe Kishi showed that armadillo cock once again. I thought Last weeks gayness was enough

Mmmmm boy, Can't wait to see madara fight this is going to be fricken epic!

Kabuto just stepped his plot game up alot. Either he's gonna be mega wack or he's gonna be pullin jutsu's out his ass that Madara won't be able to handle. I like how when he bolted he slick recalled the Edo tensei jutsu and it just sucked Deidara's ass back in the coffin out the air. Now that's some slick sh*t there.

He has 5 Akatsuki golems and a mysterious 6th and a battle against 5 jounins and the Tsuchikage is impossible? Kabuto better be up to something because that stinks of being robbed another battle. Really. That battle promised so much more - can't you go longer than one chapter with a fight anymore Kishi?

Yamato keeps falling. Captured without a fight.

The long awaited has happened - Madara has Rinnegan in his left eye. I predict that will dominate most of the discussion as to what types of powers that now gives him and whether not it FINALLY makes the big bad someone to reckon with.

Lastly, I CAN'T BELIEVE NARUTO IS THIS DUMB! SERIOUSLY.

Kabuto is now more of Orochimaru than himself(physically).

He actually is aware how he will fair against two master jinks being heavily guarded with backup on the way anytime. I think he made the right decision, but to capture Yamato like that is too far fetch.

There is no coming back from this. Its official. Kishi has an animal dick fetish.

Ooroki really is flying. The hell. He has speed.

That old fart is the shit.

i called it kabuto can reverse summon his golems and madara implanted his left eye with the rinnegan.

Yamato actually got eaten. Spoiler said he was bitten.

Just like P1 when naruto got eaten, he used clones to burst out. Yamato, a doton user couldnt break free. In fact, how the hell did he get eaten in the first place, his left hand was free to attack after he pushed Motoi with the right.


Yama got trolled and this time, it's huge

Finally, it's out. It was delayed for fuckin too long.

Even after it's out, chapter is meh. I give it an 8/10.

it just seems that every other village has badass shinobi, and they seem to be shitting on konoha. kumo and the rock have shown some pretty formidable nin, and all konoha seems to have is gai, kakashi, and naruto. Im still trying to figure out how they are considered the best village.

I wonder what connection Mei and this girl that came with the old man have. They both have Magma release, and if I'm not mistaken that is a KKG.

her version of the kages jutsu is just a jutsu thats similar, she is the grandaughter oonoki so it wouldnt surprise me if it is a kkg.

Correct me If I'm wrong but wasn't the magma release Mei's KKG ?


I think Mei's is fire+earth

Now that I think about it....The more Kabuto appears, the more it seems like he is going to change back to Orochimaru. The question is.....If it is the case, which side will he take? Given that he was all for the destruction of Akatsuki before the whole Sasuke debacle, it's a fair question.

Now that I think about it....The more Kabuto appears, the more it seems like he is going to change back to Orochimaru. The question is.....If it is the case, which side will he take? Given that he was all for the destruction of Akatsuki before the whole Sasuke debacle, it's a fair question.

if he does become oro then he will be neutral and aid both sides like his been doing so far.

Either kishi or Yama fails hard on this one. Yama got 'Full-Body' eaten w/o doing anything. What are the odds

I wonder what connection Mei and this girl that came with the old man have. They both have Magma release, and if I'm not mistaken that is a KKG.

Depends on the Kanji used. Roshi's Magma Release had a Fire-based kanji on it, while Mei's had a Water-based kanji. We have to see what kanji was used for Kurotsuchi.

so it wouldnt surprise me if it is a kkg.

Of course it is, all advanced elemental releases are!

Either kishi or Yama fails hard on this one. Yama got 'Full-Body' eaten w/o doing anything. What are the odds

there's still the possiblity he did it on purpose and plans to use the wood that was left to become a clone to lead them to madara's base.

Another penis. WTF?

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/40727763/1

Left, middle panel. WOW.

Kishi loves drawing dicks. I bet he draws hentai on his spare time.

were gonna get another penis for the next chapter im calling it right now. lmao

Another penis. WTF?

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/40727763/1

Left, middle panel. WOW.

Yeah, it's "Free Willy" all over again, but they casted the wrong Willy.

Also, for Dagoro, Kurotsuchi's Lava Release has the fire Kanji, so that makes her and Roshi connected somehow. Since it was said Jinchuuriki in major villages were selected with having a relationship with the Kage, it wouldn't surprise me that Ounoki was father of Roshi, who in his turn was Kurotsuchi's father.

And Mei has a similar Kekkei Genkai, but it seems she's unrelated to Iwagakure's characters.

it just seems that every other village has badass shinobi, and they seem to be shitting on konoha. kumo and the rock have shown some pretty formidable nin, and all konoha seems to have is gai, kakashi, and naruto. Im still trying to figure out how they are considered the best village.

The Hyuga clan, Sarutobi clan,Senju clan(descendants), ALL their Kages have been revered by ALL to be the best at that time, 9 tails, Hatake clan, At one time Uchiha clan,Shino's clan, Kiba's clan, Shikamaru's clan and Last but Not least Will of Fire.

I conclude that back pain made Deidara a missing nin...

@Topic

Damn look at the face of Naruto on page 6(lowermost right) so fucking serious about his "mission" lol

What was the meaning of "That Snake, That Voice"? Is Orochimaru slowly taking Kabuto (I agree with Gakure, Kabuto almost resembles Oro)? Or Yamato just missed Kabuto? Kabuto's up for something, I will be expecting more fights/scenes from him in the future releases. And look at the snake that came from Kabuto's mouth, that looked like him + Orochimaru's "true form", Kishi has made him so powerful.

@kevinyu how can u saw he's so powerful we havent seen him fight all he did was run away as if he saw kakashi.

There haven't been MORE bad ass ninja showed for other villages than the Leaf it's just that we see most of the leafs types of ninja, but with the other villages Kishi ONLY shows the formidable ones. Why waste ink and paper on a bunch of fodder ninja for less than secondary characters?

For all we know the ones we see may be the BEST of ALL the other ninja in there respected villages. I personally think that Leaf is the most well rounded. They have ninjutsu, genjutsu and taijutsu experts. where the other villages seem to focus on one or two of those things. Also they seem to stick to the element of their village. Rock(molten lava, dust, stone etc.), cloud(lightening) Sand 9self explanatory. But the leaf has earth,water,fire,lightening,wind, pure chakra, and Natural Energy! hell 2 ninja actually does three of those and i think Naruto WILL get a second element..Water.

i wouldnt be surprised if the captured yamato was a naruto clone. naruto seemed as if he had caught on to yamato's words when he said naruto was the only one in the village that could do the mission.

well the other villages have jutus that use more then one element at a time that counts for something. kakshi can only use lightning, ever other element he nows is due to his sharigan nothing else. yamato is one of the only one to use water earth together, other then the first.

the leaf need get more nin that can learn a second element.

@mark gotta add the factor that naruto is just stupid.

The leaf needs to get an author who gives a damn.

Too bad they won't.

@mark gotta add the factor that naruto is just stupid.[/QUOTE]

i know lol... wishful thinking on my part.

@mark gotta add the factor that naruto is just stupid.

i know lol... wishful thinking on my part.[/QUOTE]

hell if it is a naruto clone then maybe there's hope for him after all.

i wouldnt be surprised if the captured yamato was a naruto clone. naruto seemed as if he had caught on to yamato's words when he said naruto was the only one in the village that could do the mission.

I really hope that's true. If it is, not only would it be a sweet twist, but it would give Naruto and the Shinobi Alliance the heads up about Madara's Rinnegan and his army of White Zetsu.

On a separate note, I was very impressed with the Tsuchikage's abilities. And I REALLY can't wait to see Sasuke back in the story.

of course konoha seems shitter we've seen more of the konoha ninjas lol,a and we've only seen the best from the rest

if kishi drew hentai, it'd be shit...it would be clothed women who don't get disrobed and poorly drawn dicks

i think sasuke will eventually fight the tsuchikage seeing as sasuke fought deidara.

i wouldnt be surprised if the captured yamato was a naruto clone. naruto seemed as if he had caught on to yamato's words when he said naruto was the only one in the village that could do the mission.

Naruto couldn't imitate his wood Jutsu, but it may be a wood clone. It would make sense because he wouldn't want to leave Naruto and Bee unsupervised and why he didn't evade the capture.

wow .

It would be pointless for the Yamato whom got captured to be a clone. If anything this could be part of Kabuto's hidden agenda, due to the handing over of Yamato to Madara possibly ending up bringing Naruto+______________ ( insert Shinobi names ) into the hideout.

Kishi loves drawing dicks. I bet he draws hentai on his spare time.

If he did, the penis on the armadillo wouldn't be so simplistic, let alone physiologically inaccurate.

Also: http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/40727763/17

Top left panel is yet another "Surprise! Raep!" scene. He's piling those in, too.

The Hyuga clan, Sarutobi clan,Senju clan(descendants), ALL their Kages have been revered by ALL to be the best at that time, 9 tails, Hatake clan, At one time Uchiha clan,Shino's clan, Kiba's clan, Shikamaru's clan and Last but Not least Will of Fire.

Im talking about right now. Who are the ninja that you would consider to be elite in konoha. very few. Dont lump the hyuuga in there, because they havent shown to be anything special. U have kakashi (we know how strong he is at his max), gai, maybe yamato, naruto, and by technicality Tsunade. Sure there are other clans and such, but y would kishi wait this long to show us a really badass character from ex. kibas clan.

Compare them to most of the other ninja we see, and konoha really isnt shit. If Raikage wanted to, his village could probably rape the leaf. KB and rai alone would prove too much. Naruto cant do it all

If he did, the penis on the armadillo wouldn't be so simplistic, let alone physiologically inaccurate.

Well, not accounting censorship, he seems to have fun drawing that dick. He didn't have to draw it again, but he did.

Also: http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/40727763/17

Top left panel is yet another "Surprise! Raep!" scene. He's piling those in, too.

Quick, somebody give Aoba a door for him to escape... and probably see Sasuke's EMS

Im talking about right now. Who are the ninja that you would consider to be elite in konoha. very few. Dont lump the hyuuga in there, because they havent shown to be anything special. U have kakashi (we know how strong he is at his max), gai, maybe yamato, naruto, and by technicality Tsunade. Sure there are other clans and such, but y would kishi wait this long to show us a really badass character from ex. kibas clan.

Inconsistent development will do that.

Sakura was touted as having a huge potential for genjutsu, now shes not really tied to the main story line at all. Kurenai was said to be a " genjutsu master ", what happens to her ? Kishi infects her with pregnancy and has her disappear to the land of useless women for 20,000 years.

The Hyuga get tossed in the shit bin, the other clans that looked interesting such as Aburame/Nara don't get any spot light at all. Instead they all get told to stay in the kitchen and let Jesus Uzumaki handle things.

Comapre them to most of the otehr ninja we see, and konoha really isnt shit. If Raikage wanted to, they could probably rape the leaf. KB and him alone would prove too much. Naruto cant do it all

Naruto is light personified and a rainbow Logia. Combine that with the might of his Gutsy ninja comic and he is unstoppable.

i wouldnt be surprised if the captured yamato was a naruto clone

Then where from the wood justu. Absolutely not. It could be a wood clone though. Cos Yama said something like 'That voice' so he might have had a plan.

What's interesting is that while I was intoxicated the other day, I came up with a theory that Yamato would somehow become a traitor due to the fact that Orochi essentially created him, I figured Kabuto would get his hands on him and like release the mind-spell thing on him like Orochi and Sasori were able to do and make him reveal extra information. And i'll be damned if Yamato didn't just get captured haha, im dead serious, I actually thought of this.

Inconsistent development will do that.

Sakura was touted as having a huge potential for genjutsu, now shes not really tied to the main story line at all. Kurenai was said to be a " genjutsu master ", what happens to her ? Kishi infects her with pregnancy and has her disappear to the land of useless women for 20,000 years.

Great post, but I will add. Kurenai the genjutsu master was put aside quickly once she came up against Itachi. Once someone has tasted defeat like that, their development isn't necessary. Kurenai was fodder to pump up Itachi.

Like he needed it...

Of course, Kishi *could* have decided to have Kurenai be so humiliated by the loss that she would vow to become stronger and be able to counter the Uchiha. But that's too much of an Oda/Zoro thing I guess.

If he did, the penis on the armadillo wouldn't be so simplistic, let alone physiologically inaccurate.

Also: http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/40727763/17

Top left panel is yet another "Surprise! Raep!" scene. He's piling those in, too.

yeah a surprise raep scene just after he talks about wood

Naruto is light personified and a rainbow Logia

Naruto is logia? Never knew.

No, no. The Fire country is the strongest of all countries. Not "the Leaf village the strongest of all villages." Cause it's obviously not.

EDIT: strongest/most powerful

EDIT2: Ok I see that Yamato's completely swallowed by a snake. My reaction - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9536BP6j8

Aloe Vera doesn't seem to be well pleased with the current turn of events. LMAO

Aloe Vera doesn't seem to be well pleased with the current turn of events. LMAO

he's jealous cause his not the only aloe any more.

This chapter was worse than the last one lol. I didn't even know wtf was happening half the time between dead ass deidara and old ass oonoki... got dammit. well there's really no more for me to say on the matter. dag, num and act have pretty much said everything. and that rinnegan eyeball shit was retarded. lol why only in one eye? why not both? why not a hybrid? goodness

Where the hell is kb? He just disappeared

Where the hell is kb? He just disappeared

he getting ready to die soon.

No, no. The Fire country is the strongest of all countries. Not "the Leaf village the strongest of all villages." Cause it's obviously not.

EDIT: strongest/most powerful

EDIT2: Ok I see that Yamato's completely swallowed by a snake. My reaction - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9536BP6j8

idk if you mean powerful, wealth and land wise; but they dont seem to be the most powerful from a military standpoint.

naruto iz a gay animal molester idiot.he loves penis because according to sai he lacks penis

chapter was ok thou,old dude seems awesome.kabuchimaru has a trick up his sleeve.however stil no sasuke only more armadillo penis.

This chapter was good. When those guys captured Kabuto with quick sand, I was like "yeah" and then when they decided to come near him and interrogate him I was like "wtf noobs". Yamato got captured in an original way, but the valid question is why didn't he use his wood jutsu to tear Kabuto's guts apart? It's a plot hole I guess, but never the less it was pretty cool to see Kabuto eat him alive.

Madara has two of the three eye holes filled in his mask, what is the third? guess we'll just have to wait and see

Yamato can manipulate his whole fucking body. If he wanted, he could make wood spikes come from out of his back and shred Kabuto's body. Fail. He had time to say "A snake?!" but didn't have time to make spikes or whatever?

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Madara has two of the three eye holes filled in his mask, what is the third? guess we'll just have to wait and see

The mask only has 2 eye sockets. The 3rd Tomoe is painted in the mask, is not a socket at all.

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:-/

I agree.

I've got a bet saying, that Naruto knows exactly what going on and has pullled one of his kage clone tricks, without anyone knowwng, remember afterall, his time for Hokageship is approaching sooon, and him being so dumb even after such a huge power boost and revelation, WELL THAT WOULD JUST FUCKING SUCK.


YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, is there no chapter next week, is it because Bleach is back????

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/40727763/18

HUNGRY!

I've got a bet saying, that Naruto knows exactly what going on and has pullled one of his kage clone tricks, without anyone knowwng

This could make so much sense. I would immediately forgive him for wanting dick, cause this would mean that the dick was part of the act.
*crosses fingers* I hope this is true. Surely Naruto ain't a fucking moron.

Please Kishi. Show us a Sage mode Naruto standing on top of the shell observing the whole event secretly.

^lol .

Load time is to slow on mangastream right now.

i hope thats the case if not naruto is gay period.

i can get mangatream just fine check net connection.

My connection is fine on every other site right now. Pages are loading slow whic his why I'm not reading the chapter yet. Anyway it sounds like Kishi is a fur fag anyway so I wouldn't miss much.

My connection is fine on every other site right now. Pages are loading slow whic his why I'm not reading the chapter yet. Anyway it sounds like Kishi is a fur fag anyway so I wouldn't miss much.


LMAO xD at last part but sucks that it wont go for ya V_v

cloudmanga has java layout. Pages load instantly.

Armadillo dong strikes again!

three strikes and ur out.

What. The. Fuck.

This chapter reeked of bullshit. Just...everything about it. God damn.

Oddly enough, Madara's Rinnegan looks about 10x more intimidating than the SG, especially with the mask. Let's hope he can SOMEHOW dig himself out of the pit of failure he's dug himself as a villain.

EDIT: The ARMADILLO DICK making a reappearance is clearly the kind of joke that Kishi aimed at the kind of people who find screaming "PENIS" at each other until someone laughs funny. HAHA, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S A DICK.

Kabuto is now more of Orochimaru than himself(physically).

He actually is aware how he will fair against two master jinks being heavily guarded with backup on the way anytime. I think he made the right decision, but to capture Yamato like that is too far fetch.

Yamato got captured because he's been 'fodder' all along. Kishi simply confirmed it this chapter and decided to use the no load for something.

Yamato actually got eaten. Spoiler said he was bitten.

Just like P1 when naruto got eaten, he used clones to burst out. Yamato, a doton user couldnt break free. In fact, how the hell did he get eaten in the first place, his left hand was free to attack after he pushed Motoi with the right.


Yama got trolled and this time, it's huge

Yama didn't get trolled, he's always been a troll. All he's ever done is whip out some wood, to either contain the Kyuubi, (when he could), or build something. Since this is a ninja manga, Kishi was to gullible to call this character what he was, and has been, A CARPENTER AND THATS ALL.

Now that I think about it....The more Kabuto appears, the more it seems like he is going to change back to Orochimaru. The question is.....If it is the case, which side will he take? Given that he was all for the destruction of Akatsuki before the whole Sasuke debacle, it's a fair question.

Kabuto seeks the same thing that Oro did, and it will hasten his demise... An Uchiha Body... Sasuke's to be specific, and though he hasen't been seen, it is common knowledge that he's gaining EMS, equal to Madara at the point when he fought the 1st Hokage. No other individual Uchiha has elevated to that point besides Madara. Nothing, Nothing, NOTHING ASST. SNAKE BOY PULLS OUT OF HIS ASS WILL SAVE HIM FROM SASUKE IF HE GETS IN HIS WAY.

The Hyuga clan, Sarutobi clan,Senju clan(descendants), ALL their Kages have been revered by ALL to be the best at that time, 9 tails, Hatake clan, At one time Uchiha clan,Shino's clan, Kiba's clan, Shikamaru's clan and Last but Not least Will of Fire.

No, don't do that. Konohatards have gone out of their way to shit on Uchiha's, don't ADD them now to win an arguement thats unwinable. Konoha Shinobi are OVERRATED. Thats because Kishi got lazy, and didn't put more substance, affinities, and unique jutsu's within the 'main' characters. Though Sasuke was struggling to gain power through devious means, Naruto honestly powered up waaay to slowly, and depended on the Kyuubi way too much. Therefore there was no screen time left for other Konoha shinobi to 'power up', from simply waiting until Naruto and Sasuke were in the top spots. He's now using his ingenuity on Akatsuki Members, and Allies of Konoha. He actually hyped up Gai more than I thought he would, but lookit, after his 'Stupid Assed Gates', he's finished, he can't even move without falling out. And to be more pointed, Gai's in at least the top 5 Shinobi living in Konoha. Therefore, IMHO Konoha's shinobi have been overhyped, the whole manga, because the story is from Jiraiya, a Konoha perspective.

well the other villages have jutus that use more then one element at a time that counts for something. kakshi can only use lightning, ever other element he nows is due to his sharigan nothing else. yamato is one of the only one to use water earth together, other then the first.

the leaf need get more nin that can learn a second element.

@mark gotta add the factor that naruto is just stupid.

As I stated, prolly more shinobi would've had more afinities, jutsus, KKG, but Konoha shinobi were created 'to hold up the bridge' so that Naruto & Sasuke could be combatants in the final battles. Nobody from the entire Chuunin Exams were expected, or designed to surpass, or overshadow the 2 lead characters.

Good chapter, way better than last week, btw obviously Naruto put a font when he said i get it! I' ll focus on my mission, probably has something on his sleeve, and again probably like a lot of people said here he might have made a clone and changed last moment with Yamato or something..

Anyway, i think Kabuto is actually a good guy, i bet his role is gonna turn a kind of Gin for Naruto, there is NO way that he couldn't at least take 8 tails with him while leaving, and he wouldn't call a fight *impossible* without even trying with all the caskets..

Back then when he met Naruto in the forest he said he wants to fight him to show him that he's winning his inner fight, - for Kabuto was Orochimaru -, that's why he didn't capture him, he wants to fight an HONEST fight with Naruto. As for Sasuke, his plans remain the same, kill him or either get his body,whatever..

Good chapter, way better than last week, btw obviously Naruto put a font when he said i get it! I' ll focus on my mission, probably has something on his sleeve, and again probably like a lot of people said here he might have made a clone and changed last moment with Yamato or something..

Anyway, i think Kabuto is actually a good guy, i bet his role is gonna turn a kind of Gin for Naruto, there is NO way that he couldn't at least take 8 tails with him while leaving, and he wouldn't call a fight *impossible* without even trying with all the caskets..

Back then when he met Naruto in the forest he said he wants to fight him to show him that he's winning his inner fight, - for Kabuto was Orochimaru -, that's why he didn't capture him, he wants to fight an HONEST fight with Naruto. As for Sasuke, his plans remain the same, kill him or either get his body,whatever..

I honestly (for about the first time) believed, and agreed with what Kabuto was saying. Though it wasn't 'impossible' to grab either Naruto, or KB, he had waaaay too man advisaries at the time. Additionally, he seem to know of the Tsuchikage, who seems to be like Raichu at times and not care whom, or how he hurts anybody else that gets in the way of his goals. He had power that would've toasted everyone, including the Giant, Stupid, No Offense, No Defense, Purposeless Turtle. Though he mangaged to pawn 2 Konoha shinobi (not shocking), 1 Cloud shinobi, and 1 Rock shinobi, its an easy guess that the 8 or 9 tails would've put up much more of a fight than all of those shinobi combined, plus that woulda been a haul just to escape not if, but, WHEN he failed.

I just thought of something, before the Akatsuki members were complaining that it took so long to drain the Jinks, of their bijuu. With the deaths of soooo many Akatsuki members, what happens now? I can't believe that it would take less shinobi to drain the highest 2 bijuu's. Okay, say Naruto's 'special', and that Madara can do something 'brilliant' with his EMS & Rinnengan to drain the final bijuu. But what of Killerbee, who's going to assist in the draining, Zetsu Clones? Kishi killed too many bad guys, left too many good ones living, and has screwed his own storyline.

This guy = Oro v2. Did you see that fucking snake. He's a monster. His "normal" body is just a cover.

Haven't read such a crap chapter since...last chapter. Seriously, the last two were TERRIBLE.

Ugh....can we just label this whole damn arc are "filler content" and pretend it never happened?

Ugh....can we just label this whole damn arc are "filler content" and pretend it never happened?

I can do that. Anything between Konan's death and current chapter can be forgotten.

HOLY SHIT THIS IS A HORRENDOUS ATROCIOUS GROTESQUE PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT.

KISHIMOTO THAT POOR MAN IS DOING COKE AND METH. POOR METH HEAD.

GOD DAMN. MY 8 YEAR OLD NEPHEW CAN WRITE BETTER STORIES THAN THIS.
THE AUTHOR IS A FAGGOT AND HE HAS NO PROBLEMS DRAWING DICKS. WHAT ABOUT TITS. WHY TSUANDE OR KONAN CAN'T SHOW OFF AS WELL SINCE ITS OKAY TO DRAW DICKS.

Naruto sucks ass completely.

I can do that. Anything between Konan's death and current chapter can be forgotten.

You got to go farther back then that.

Konan's (taste the rainbow mother fucker) death sucked ass. Fucking frog costumes were even more gay then those gas masks they had in the anime filler a while back.

Naruto tamed the fox and what did he get? The power to sense emotions!?!? Give me a fucking break. As if he wasn't emo enough before.

His moms flashback was stupid as shit. She was a damsel in distress that got saved by minato. Basically the Sakura of her genration minus the big forehead. FAIL. Minato's character got troll'd hard by kishi. Could have ended Madara right then and there. I mean he put a fucking seal on the bastard, so he could have tracked him to the ends of the earth, and appeared behind him for the rest of his life via FTG. Would have eventually found a way to kill him. Those 2 are the worst parents in this manga.

They're on a fucking island, why again? Because naruto's such a dumbfuck he got fooled into believing he's the ONLY GUY IN EXISTENCE WHO CAN LOOK AT AN ANIMALS PENIS AND KNOW IF IT'S MALE OR NOT. Really now??? That's not a S-ranked mission. That's an XXX rated mission. I'm surprised they let anyone lower then Kage level go on such an extremely dangerous mission. /sarcasm

Sage Mode. Got used one time and thrown in the dump. Way to throw away an entire arc of character development. Keep up the good work kishi.

Akatsuchi deaths? Were any actually good? It's a rhetorical question.......and the answer is no.

All the Konoha rookies are still n00bs, thanks to kishi's writing or rather lack of.

Sasuke is a fucking lunatic.......enough said.


I think at this point it's better to just pretend kishi meant to end the series on a cliffhanger at the end of Part 1, and Part 2 never existed.

Part 2 to me is like Dragonball GT. Like WTF? goku's a kid again, but he turns into an adult when he goes SS4, only to turn back into a kid afterwards. WHY? Plotwise even GT is more coherent then this shit. That's fucking sad.

The rainbow cloak can stay for me as long as any manly features get revealed later in battle.

Sage mode got thrown into the recycle bin indeed.

I want Sasuke to stay as he is right now mentally-wise. As the second main fag of the story, his wicked killing personality is the only compensation to the already existing faggish pacifism scheme on the story. It's crucial, and only a matter of time now before his next introduction and wave of evilness to fresh up this manga a bit again.

Part 2 to me is like Dragonball GT. Like WTF? goku's a kid again, but he turns into an adult when he goes SS4, only to turn back into a kid afterwards.

QFT.


Anyhow, Kishi fucked his story into a dark hole of faggotry. He can still pull it out, as he has not yet reached the Climax of Extraordinary Faggotry. A big twist concerning Shadow Clone and and/or lying/faking Naruto is necessary at a time like this.

-Naruto's still an idiot.

-Kishi hasn't come off the penis.

-Kabuto couldn't handle Aoba, that lava chick, Yamato, and Motoi at once; why? Tsuchikage was busy with Deidara, so Kabuto didn't have to worry about a direct interference or anything. He could have been done with the others and then, taken off for the hosts. I'm sure Tsuchikage could handle Deidara, in the long run, however, since Deidara is a constantly reanimating Zombie, Tsuchikage would be fighting for awhile to defeat it.

Kabuto literally had many tools up his sleeves. Why he opted for Yamato and didn't weaken the allied forces further (like, for example, killing them) is beyond me. Aoba just looks cool, however, hasn't shown stellar presence. Yamato has been reduced to getting ripped on by Killer Bee and stupefied by Naruto. Him getting captured just showed us the kind of role Yamato plays now. And that lava chick looked the most impressive out of that small lot (despite Lava appearing in many variations now, which really questions my understanding of the hows and whys of jutsu). Motoi is just some kind of tracker who is in tune with the workings of the island. Kabuto took that opportunity to expose them all because he's "supposedly" a slickster, however, opted only for information.

-Then Tobi tells us what we assumed he was supposed to be doing several chapters ago, on the last page.

4th war is kicking off to a very slow and uneventful start...

4th war is kicking off to a very slow and uneventful start...


Well, I think they elected Bush to be the commander in chief of the allied forces, so look for this war to last at least 8 years. ;}

Narutards:Oh, we get a few decent chapters. Naruto might actually get better.
Kishi fucks up.
Narutards:lolzers wow armadillo dick iz gay but inside we really think its funny.
Kishi fucks up for a second time.
Narutards: RAEG (http://maddok.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/raeg.jpg?w=255&h=288)

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/profile-ak-snc4/object3/937/60/n10733642327_5573.jpg Please.

^basically this, except I RAEG'd the 1st time.

I could rage... but it just doesn't seem worth it anymore. I think I'll spend this break focusing on other things. See you guys when 515's spoilers break.

http://www.99chan.in/raeg/src/128664421021.jpg
http://www.99chan.in/raeg/src/12824479112.png

Is all we can do right now. And talk about how shitty the manga is.

that armadillo looked like a female in 513..

until kishi revealed its genitals when it got knocked out.

that armadillo looked like a female in 513..

until kishi revealed its genitals when it got knocked out.
As far as I remember, this was the first time that Kishi showed a dick in the entire Manga.

^PPS animates - Disney retaliates. Blank spot it is.

Naruto is not that dumb....it has to be a shadow clone. Naruto is not the smartest but he does pick up on certain thing fast enough.

^Where was he when Yamato got captured and taken to the enemy base? I find it funny how Naruto was able to see through Sakura on the spot but couldn't see through this? Oh yeah, I forgotten. It dealt with Sasuke; of course!

^Where was he when Yamato got captured and taken to the enemy base? I find it funny how Naruto was able to see through Sakura on the spot but couldn't see through this? Oh yeah, I forgotten. It dealt with Sasuke; of course!

Naruto is retarded.

http://www.mymangaspot.com/series/mangas/Naruto/474%20-%20Hokage%27s%20Resolution...%21%21%21/13.jpg
http://www.mymangaspot.com/series/mangas/Naruto/474%20-%20Hokage%27s%20Resolution...%21%21%21/14.jpg

Kabuto coming here and Tsuchi following to help were great ideas...totally fucked up by what actually happened. We could have had great fights with Edo's and Kabuto vs the rest. It's idiotic as fuck that Kabuto couldn't kill the four of these, who should practically be fodder to him.

Oh and Kabuto being the snake with tiny arms made me laugh out loud.

Naruto is not that dumb....it has to be a shadow clone. Naruto is not the smartest but he does pick up on certain thing fast enough.

Two bets that he's as dumb as we think he is...

Its a new day but am still surprise we had this for a chapter yesterday.

I honestly (for about the first time) believed, and agreed with what Kabuto was saying. Though it wasn't 'impossible' to grab either Naruto, or KB, he had waaaay too man advisaries at the time. Additionally, he seem to know of the Tsuchikage, who seems to be like Raichu at times and not care whom, or how he hurts anybody else that gets in the way of his goals. He had power that would've toasted everyone, including the Giant, Stupid, No Offense, No Defense, Purposeless Turtle. Though he mangaged to pawn 2 Konoha shinobi (not shocking), 1 Cloud shinobi, and 1 Rock shinobi, its an easy guess that the 8 or 9 tails would've put up much more of a fight than all of those shinobi combined, plus that woulda been a haul just to escape not if, but, WHEN he failed.

I just thought of something, before the Akatsuki members were complaining that it took so long to drain the Jinks, of their bijuu. With the deaths of soooo many Akatsuki members, what happens now? I can't believe that it would take less shinobi to drain the highest 2 bijuu's. Okay, say Naruto's 'special', and that Madara can do something 'brilliant' with his EMS & Rinnengan to drain the final bijuu. But what of Killerbee, who's going to assist in the draining, Zetsu Clones? Kishi killed too many bad guys, left too many good ones living, and has screwed his own storyline.

Hmm about the sealing, i got a feeling that Kishi will show us that the edo tensei akatsuki can help on sealing and poof! after 1-2 days 8 tails is sealed and every single bad guy has a new goal in life : rape Naruto and take out Nine tails

guess we'll know , won't we?

Kabuto could have killed those 4 if he was trying. I'm not sure why people are complaining Kabuto obviously has something planed. He ate Yamato who was arguably the strongest ninja there (-Tsuchikage) with relative ease.

What would be interesting next chapter is if it's revealed that the Yamato Kabuto grabbed was nothing more than a wood clone that Yamato would use to track down Madara's base.

What would be interesting next chapter is if it's revealed that the Yamato Kabuto grabbed was nothing more than a wood clone that Yamato would use to track down Madara's base.

It's possible cos the way he was captured was too easy from my opinion...

The only problem with Yamato being a clone is that it undermines this "godly status" Kabuto has assumed now. Also, if Tobi gets another substitution I think he'll just quit Akatuski or something.

A wood clone would +rep Yamato, but it's too early for the discovery of their base. Anko is supposed to pass on the information.

It could be that Kabuto is really a good guy (which would be another unfair advantage for the allied forces). Hell, Kabuto gave Naruto the book on Akatuski. He tipped off Konoha trackers on Tobi's lair. He opted not to go after either of the hosts, even after being told to. On yeah, and if Yamato "is" a clone, that would further suggest that Kabuto is good (someone of his level would have to be a fool to fall for such a trick).

So far, Kabuto hasn't done anything that was beneficial to Akatuski besides reanimating all of Tobi's fallen, who can easily be turned against him. Oh yeah, Kabuto wants to take care of Sasuke, which would indirectly be a plus for Konoha (not for Naruto though, but who gives a shit). I don't know what Kabuto would gain from helping Konoha though... It doesn't make sense at all, but all I know is that Kabuto is not doing Akatuski justice at all...

Anko is supposed to pass on the information.

That's been done. The data that was collected from the Recon was already discussed during the 2nd Kage meeting. Tsunade was to compare her results with the Raikage's and see if there were any discrepancies.

I personally am not vying for a wood clone, it could be the real yamato but maybe just maybe he got himself captured for a reason...

That's been done. The data that was collected from the Recon was already discussed during the 2nd Kage meeting. Tsunade was to compare her results with the Raikage's and see if there were any discrepancies.

Hmm? This has been discussed? How did I ever miss that part.

@k-lai: Yeah so he can see where the base is, and walk away just like that cause he's so awesome. /sarcasm > don't think so. Madara has raeg for war and Kabuto needs cells real quick.

Kabuto could have killed those 4 if he was trying. I'm not sure why people are complaining Kabuto obviously has something planed. He ate Yamato who was arguably the strongest ninja there (-Tsuchikage) with relative ease.

What would be interesting next chapter is if it's revealed that the Yamato Kabuto grabbed was nothing more than a wood clone that Yamato would use to track down Madara's base.

Well, Kabuto could have killed those guys, kidnapped Bee and Naruto (if he can), and take them wherever HE wants, just so he can laugh at Madara. Not to mention that having the two of those as hostages can mean that he can dictate whatever he wants to the Five Kages as well.

This big fail and admitting he can't handle them probably means Edo Tensei isn't as haxxed as it looks like.

Summoning the people is one thing. But controlling all their movements at the same time is another. I bet ya it takes chakra. Especially Nagato and Itachi. Those two wouldn't walk the streets for anyone. Controlling all at the same time takes too much chakra. And relying on their free will isn't an option.

Dunno about that. Seems like Kabuto lied. Else it would be retarded as fuck.

I'll have to go with TSO on this one. Kabuto seems to be a double agent. This guy hates Akatsuki

Kuro-tsuchi and Mei spit and Tsunade swallows...........sake

I'm not sure I buy the whole "Kabuto hates Akatsuki, therefore he'll work with Konoha/Alliance" bit. Think about it: he's absorbed Orochimaru, who despised both Konoha and Akatsuki. Orochimaru wanted control and power. Also, Orochimaru hated the Uchiha because he couldn't get his grubby mitts on a Sharingan. We know that Kabuto is also a scheming little shit himself who seems to want power (or something of the sort), similarly to Orochimaru. Because he absorbed Orochimaru, wasn't it implied in a past chapter that Orochimaru is slowly taking over Kabuto's mind? If that's true then it would make absolutely no sense for Kabutorochimaru to work for Akatsuki (as well as Madara, an Uchiha) or for the Alliance (in which Konoha is a component). So, my money's on Kabutorochimaru is trying to get in close with Madara so he can eventually sabotage Akatsuki during or after the planned destruction of Konoha.

Well its safe to say that I'm not the only one who thought that this chapter could have panned out in a far more exciting manner than it actually ended up in. Seemed kinda lame to me really, what with all the hype around Kabuto and then to see his abilities which were kinda disappointing since we never got to see him fight Super-Idiot like we thought. Hope to see some serious action soon. Wonder what that retard needs a "one entire week break" for...

Hmm? This has been discussed? How did I ever miss that part.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-50572-7/naruto/chapter-491.html

http://www.mangareader.net/93-50572-7/naruto/chapter-491.html

Ah I see. Well it was wise to think it could be a trap. However we know it's not. So Kishi should get this over with already.

EDIT: One last thing I noticed about this chapter:
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/294/2/c/pokeball_coffin_by_spaceninja309-d317ibw.jpg
It was so obvious, yet I did not think of it at first.

On the subject of peni, Kabuto's new form looks slightly like one and is lacking one
Isn't that lovely?

Kabuto could have killed those 4 if he was trying. I'm not sure why people are complaining Kabuto obviously has something planed. He ate Yamato who was arguably the strongest ninja there (-Tsuchikage) with relative ease.

What would be interesting next chapter is if it's revealed that the Yamato Kabuto grabbed was nothing more than a wood clone that Yamato would use to track down Madara's base.

didn't kabuto say he just got what he could and bolted because it was an impossibly difficult fight? Or is kabuto just being sly in front of madara?

i bet kabuto is gonna get some uchiha cells next and make hiimself into a rs like madara. and were gonna have a rs battle durig the war.

In good news, fairy tail is out and was a damn good chapter

Also, Madara having two different eyes looks retarded as fuck.

Also, also, TSO and Plat should visit the Spam.

Well, Kabuto could have killed those guys, kidnapped Bee and Naruto (if he can), and take them wherever HE wants, just so he can laugh at Madara. Not to mention that having the two of those as hostages can mean that he can dictate whatever he wants to the Five Kages as well.

Not quite. Though the shinobi Kabuto was fighting didn't seem to be in his league, there were 3 shinobi that were at least Jounin Class, with 2 of the highest jink/bijuu combinations sync'd with their bijuu. Nothing in me say that either woulda 'easily' been taken by Kabuto, plus he had some control over Deidara as well (notice the coffin closing on him), with the Tsuchikage ready to send Cero Bombs at his location on the Turtle. Thats a lot for any single shinobi to face.

Dunno about that. Seems like Kabuto lied. Else it would be retarded as fuck.

I don't think he 'outright' lied, he probably has other initiatives he wants to accomplish on his own, but with the 8 & 9 Tails, I'd guess they wouldn't have simply gone so easily, like the freaking Carpenter, Yamato. Either the Jink, or the Bijuu woulda busted out of the snake that was Kabuchimaru. Even though Deidara came with Kabuto, it seems his only task was to keep the Tsuchikage away while Kabuto figured out his next move. The key in this manga from what I see, lies in the eyes, and with the demons (bijuu). I don't care whom you are, without one, or both, at best you'll be a 'pest', like Oro, and Kabuto, but one of those two factors will be Kabuto's demise... just like Oro. They don't get it. Uchiha's weren't, and haven't bothered either of them, but the 2 clowns seem to want to choose Uchihas for they're next plateau to greatness. Too bad neither has been, or ever will be a true threat to the remaining Uchihas, Madara & Sasuke. Kishi can haxx out Kabuto all he wants, everything he has learned from a baby to now, will do absolutely nothing from stopping either of them from stomping him through the ground, mercilessly. Kishi set up his manga this way, Eyes or Demons, pick your poison. These are greater than most KKG.

Also, Madara having two different eyes looks retarded as fuck.

Also, also, TSO and Plat should visit the Spam.

Actually Madara wearing these masks all the time is retarded as fuck.

meh chapter.
deidara in it is a bang
tsuchikage is more awesome than he looks
but fight scene is a bit short
also kabuto is a freaking freak
what could that guy be thinking?
oh, and yamato fails yet again
and naruto sucks armadillo dick
kishi, give us sasuke next time, not more dicks

Also, Madara having two different eyes looks retarded as fuck.

Also, also, TSO and Plat should visit the Spam.

I just hope he doesn't sport a third eye.

As for the spam, I poke around there from time to time. I requested to peak around the OH fanfics (a while ago), however, I don't see the sub forum near the random videos yet, so I haven't been around there too often.

Not quite. Though the shinobi Kabuto was fighting didn't seem to be in his league, there were 3 shinobi that were at least Jounin Class, with 2 of the highest jink/bijuu combinations sync'd with their bijuu. Nothing in me say that either woulda 'easily' been taken by Kabuto, plus he had some control over Deidara as well (notice the coffin closing on him), with the Tsuchikage ready to send Cero Bombs at his location on the Turtle. Thats a lot for any single shinobi to face.



I don't think he 'outright' lied, he probably has other initiatives he wants to accomplish on his own, but with the 8 & 9 Tails, I'd guess they wouldn't have simply gone so easily, like the freaking Carpenter, Yamato. Either the Jink, or the Bijuu woulda busted out of the snake that was Kabuchimaru. Even though Deidara came with Kabuto, it seems his only task was to keep the Tsuchikage away while Kabuto figured out his next move. The key in this manga from what I see, lies in the eyes, and with the demons (bijuu). I don't care whom you are, without one, or both, at best you'll be a 'pest', like Oro, and Kabuto, but one of those two factors will be Kabuto's demise... just like Oro. They don't get it. Uchiha's weren't, and haven't bothered either of them, but the 2 clowns seem to want to choose Uchihas for they're next plateau to greatness. Too bad neither has been, or ever will be a true threat to the remaining Uchihas, Madara & Sasuke. Kishi can haxx out Kabuto all he wants, everything he has learned from a baby to now, will do absolutely nothing from stopping either of them from stomping him through the ground, mercilessly. Kishi set up his manga this way, Eyes or Demons, pick your poison. These are greater than most KKG.



Actually Madara wearing these masks all the time is retarded as fuck.

Well, Kabuto would have known the power of 8 and 9 tails when he went after them. He got Kisame's scroll. Also, Gai is useless at this point, and Motoi, Aoba, Yamato and Kurotsuchi can't handle full Akatsuki minus Deidara who alone fought Tschikage. Simply put, Nagato or Itachi alone would stomp the shit out of them.
Not to mention Manda and the sixth coffin, whatever is in it.

Kabout could have done this with moderate if not low difficulty.

I just hope he doesn't sport a third eye.

As for the spam, I poke around there from time to time. I requested to peak around the OH fanfics (a while ago), however, I don't see the sub forum near the random videos yet, so I haven't been around there too often.

I wouldn't be surprised if I see eyes all over his body at this point. And all of them to be different. Kishimoto went too much into DNA collecting and implanting into one self and eye ripping and implanting. It's like half the characters are organ collectors or some shit.

Ah well, somebody will need to make a list and send it to Mibs. I could do it if I wasn't as tired as I am now. Going strait to bed in a few mins.

It seems Kabuto is making anything out of cells these days, why doesn't he make a Sasuke dummy for Naruto to *play* when he's lonely?

^wow, thats a good idea, and whilst at it make some SG for himself.

Ahh.. Madara having both rinnegan and sharingan is fucked up.

It doesn't excite me anymore reading Naruto. Its sad really.. I shall continue reading untill Naruto and Sasuke fights. That's the reason I stick to this manga. You've gotta follow through to the end!

He probably kept his sharingan for a reason. Going on assumption, Madara/Tobi, uses that eye for space-time techniques. Without it, he'd be pretty done, since it's one of the main characteristics of how he manages to escape death.

It makes sense if Tobi use his right sharingan for distance travel and what not. I do agree that the two different eyes look ridiculous though.

While that makes sense in regards to Madara himself... to us, it doesn't make a lick of sense. I just.. really want Kishi to just reveal who the fuck Madara is.. punk bitch taking all these damn breaks lol.. trying to prolong his shitty series for as long as possible.

He needs to drop Naruto and pick up Bench.

I'm just waiting for the chapters to get decent again, like they have been. (Before the last shitty 2-3 and post 500)

well he dropped it this week so he could look at animal cock

While that makes sense in regards to Madara himself... to us, it doesn't make a lick of sense. I just.. really want Kishi to just reveal who the fuck Madara is.. punk bitch taking all these damn breaks lol.. trying to prolong his shitty series for as long as possible.

I lol'd. It looks bad on kishi when takes breaks ever other week, and still produces a shitty ass manga. It makes him look even worse when the guy who writes Fairy Tail almost never takes a break (except holidays), and makes a far superior manga.

Speaking of FT, they got 3 chapters coming out next week. Fuck yeah!!!!! I'd bet money every one of them will be better then the naruto chapter. :>

I lol'd. It looks bad on kishi when takes breaks ever other week, and still produces a shitty ass manga. It makes him look even worse when the guy who writes Fairy Tail almost never takes a break (except holidays), and makes a far superior manga.

Speaking of FT, they got 3 chapters coming out next week. Fuck yeah!!!!! I'd bet money every one of them will be better then the naruto chapter. :>

Good luck finding someone to bet against.

Speaking of FT, they got 3 chapters coming out next week. Fuck yeah!!!!! I'd bet money every one of them will be better then the naruto chapter. :>

Well, since Fairy Tail is running a fairly predictable sequence of fighting, boobs, fighting, boobs, fighting, "I love my friends", repeat, it is particularly easy to pump out the chapters of similar quality. In my mind, it still doesn't have very much depth to be considered very good. Right now, FT is better than Naruto, but there are many arcs of Naruto that were far more interesting and enjoyable than Fairy Tail.

The Gerrard Arc was probably its best and Hiro hasn't done too much to match that every week.

Yeah I'm finding FT hard to get into. One Piece still reigns supreme over all other Shounen.

What is madara? The organ harvester? Seriously he looks so stupid.

Yeah I'm finding FT hard to get into. One Piece still reigns supreme over all other Shounen.

MANGA FCAKTS. To compare the manga's to a family, OP is the cool older brother. There are few people who would disagree (and they would be wrong). FT is the slightly less cool middle child, while naruto is the runt of the family. Bleach is a kid with "special needs" .

Seriously he looks so stupid.

He IS stupid. He's like Midas, but instead of turning things into gold, he turns them into crap. Author included.

I would say that FMA is the cool older brother, while OP is the goofy older brother.
Naruto is the dumb - whiny - middle sister, while FT is the younger but cooler brother. Bleach is the result of Dragon Ball Z and Inuyasha (parents) fucking while drunk, and Inuyasha taking drugs while pregnant with Bleach. Yu-Yu Hakashou is Inuyasha's parent.

Bleach is a kid with "special needs"

Lol, ouch.

Compare how Oda wrote his main character coming back from TS with how Kishi wrote his after TS, and the difference is staggering. A massive shit kicking.

Hah! You guys...lol

I would say that FMA is the cool older brother, while OP is the goofy older brother.
Naruto is the dumb - whiny - middle sister, while FT is the younger but cooler brother. Bleach is the result of Dragon Ball Z and Inuyasha (parents) fucking while drunk, and Inuyasha taking drugs while pregnant with Bleach. Yu-Yu Hakushou is Inuyasha's parent.

LOL, nicely said. Dumb and whiny are perfect descriptions of naruto.

What's funny (to me) about you analogy, Yu Yu Hakusho is one of my all time favorite mangas, while I hate Inuyahsa with a passion. I guess sometime a child doesn't live up to it's parents expectations. :>
Lol, ouch.

Compare how Oda wrote his main character coming back from TS with how Kishi wrote his after TS, and the difference is staggering. A massive shit kicking.

THIS, a million times over. It's people like Oda who give me hope for humanity. :>


Edit: @ TSO- you need to update the link in your sig (your first thread, lol), since we're not naruto central anymore, it's become invalid.

THIS, a million times over. It's people like Oda who give me hope for humanity. :>

I can't really wait to be up to date with OP (chapter 455 still, been very very busy), because it's just soooooo good.

But we shouldn't be so mean to Naruto and Bleach. I mean, they are great ways for new writers know what NOT to do with their plots.

455 huh.

You're still in the Thriller bark arc, that was a good arc but one of the last in my list of fav arcs. Wait till you hit Shabondy, the SHs separation and the Marineford VS WB war. It will blow your fucking mind all over the walls.

I can't really wait to be up to date with OP (chapter 455 still, been very very busy), because it's just soooooo good.

But we shouldn't be so mean to Naruto and Bleach. I mean, they are great ways for new writers know what NOT to do with their plots.

I still have not gotten into OP really. Damn dub ruined it to some degree, and I always somehow ended up watching the less serious, heavily trippy episodes without any context. The only arc I really followed in the anime when it was on air was the Alabasta or whatever arc. I don't really have time to catch up to new mangas at this point, especially not one of the longest running manga of all time. I'll probably start work on it this upcoming summer.

455 huh.

You're still in the Thriller bark arc, that was a good arc but one of the last in my list of fav arcs. Wait till you hit Shabondy, the SHs separation and the Marineford VS WB war. It will blow your fucking mind all over the walls.

Don't spoil stuff for me! Kidding, I've heard great things about the upcoming arcs, but I want to read them by myself :P

Edit:
I still have not gotten into OP really. Damn dub ruined it to some degree, and I always somehow ended up watching the less serious, heavily trippy episodes without any context. The only arc I really followed in the anime when it was on air was the Alabasta or whatever arc. I don't really have time to catch up to new mangas at this point, especially not one of the longest running manga of all time. I'll probably start work on it this upcoming summer.

The Portuguese dub took me away from OP too. Mind you, I knew about OP BEFORE I knew about Naruto, but the Portuguese dub was so excruciating that kept everyone from OP, and they had to go to subs... at the last episode of the first and only televised season.

But forum-goers here said just too many awesome things about it that I had to check it. And I'm enjoying every chance I get to read it.

I can't really wait to be up to date with OP (chapter 455 still, been very very busy), because it's just soooooo good.


I know how you feel. I was way behind on OP (chapter 390) a while back, and used Oda's 4 week hiatus to catch up. Trust me, it only gets better.

Same here.

I was at 430 something, and the hiatus caught me up. Its gets better, and better, more back story but no plot holes like Naruto.

Well, since Fairy Tail is running a fairly predictable sequence of fighting, boobs, fighting, boobs, fighting, "I love my friends", repeat, it is particularly easy to pump out the chapters of similar quality. In my mind, it still doesn't have very much depth to be considered very good. Right now, FT is better than Naruto, but there are many arcs of Naruto that were far more interesting and enjoyable than Fairy Tail.

The Gerrard Arc was probably its best and Hiro hasn't done too much to match that every week.

Really? Man, I thought the Nirvana arc was pretty cool. Gerard was definitely a twist for me, I wasn't expecting them to be one in the same, although I probably SHOULD have. I just didn't. Other than that, I pretty much agree. I liked the Edolas arc... but idk. I'd like an arc where the people of FT fail and have to recover from a failure, I think it would make for interesting plot and character development.

But I much rather prefer tits over armadillo dicks lol.

KNN: I agree, FMA rules for me. I'm going to pick a day where I don't have shit going on and just read OP... I really don't want to. But I will for the sake of needing to expunge the site of armadillo dicks from my mind.

Don't spoil stuff for me!

I didn't reveal anything lol, just giving my opinion on where the arc places on my list.

I will however say that you're in for one of the most awesome moments of friendship/loyalty/manliness in manga history.

In fact, I invite anyone that isn't Nulminous to read it. Even if you are not a fan of OP ( yet..), it puts the friendship/loyalty aspects of Naruto to shame. Its just one chapter, read it I guarantee you'll like it.

http://www.citymanga.com/one_piece/chapter-485/02/

Plat I promise you, the art style is annoying at first. Your going to have to force yourself past the (Crocodile?) arc, but it will be well worth it. OP is the best manga I've ever read, and the art gets better. The story gets better. Its just better. Trust me bro.

Your going to have to force yourself past the (Crocodile?) arc,

What ? lol.

The Alabasta arc was great, nothing to " force " one's self through. I say only the first 3 mini arcs are a bit slow, the rest is great.

I liked it Dag, but its one of the slower arcs. I'm saying, the real goodness of OP doesn't start until after. For someone that doesn't like OP (plat) he's going to have to force himself through the Alabasta arc.

If I can read armadillo dicks, I can suffer through slow arcs lol. I'm not worried. Plus, FMA is the best shounen manga I've ever read, so once I get through OP, I shall make that judgement. Give me a week, I'll have it read up to the latest chapter by then.

If I can read armadillo dicks, I can suffer through slow arcs lol. I'm not worried. Plus, FMA is the best shounen manga I've ever read, so once I get through OP, I shall make that judgement. Give me a week, I'll have it read up to the latest chapter by then.

*Saluting for epic endeavor*

600+ chapters in one week... that's a lot.

You'll discard FMA of that title after reading One Piece.

Seriously, its fucking awesome. "I want to kick his ass." "Kick his ass" (Result: Ass kicked, or Kicked his ass) "I want to protect my Nakama" "So protect your Nakama" (Friends protected, or not protected.)

Fucking awesome. Luffy is very similar to Goku without the gay fucking hax.

Edit: Num, 100+ chapters a day wouldn't be too hard with a few Hot Pockets/Burritos and plenty of juice. Also, a very dark curtain and a lot of lotion/baby oil. (Microwave too)

Plat you should check out the link to the chap i posted, it makes the characters from Naruto look like total nancies.

IDK, 100 + chapters in a day sounds like a challenge. Sounds like you'd need a good ass cushion...

100+ chapters a day wouldn't be too hard with a few Hot Pockets/Burritos and plenty of juice. Also, a very dark curtain and a lot of lotion/baby oil. (Microwave too)

I'm telling you TSO, it can be done. You might need a few plates and a towel too.

It all depends on the quality of what you're reading.

One of my favorite trilogies, the scorpion shards, is an example of books that i read in a very short time due to them being so good thus I couldn't put it down. I think i read nearly 200+ pages in a few hours one time.

This is the case with some manga, One Piece being one of them ( not with everyone of course ).

One of my favorite trilogies, the scorpion shards, is an example of books that i read in a very short time due to them being so good thus I couldn't put it down. I think i read nearly 200+ pages in a few hours one time.

My favorite writer is José Saramago and he's known for not being accessible to anyone because of his peculiar writing style. I can devour 50 pages/hour of his books. Same thing with OP, but even faster (I can read an entire arc in an afternoon)

Same, I've always been a fast reader and once I get into something I can't stop.

Barnes & Nobles hates me. =/

Same, I've always been a fast reader and once I get into something I can't stop.

Barnes & Nobles hates me. =/

They should love you assuming you buy their books all the time.

EDIT: TSO has a badass avatar.

I don't. I would sit in the B&N and read until I finish the book. And this was an every Sunday afternoon thing, since it was only about 3 miles from my house.

Well, I have my cheap moments.

I don't. I would sit in the B&N and read.

I already told you guys I'm cheap.

You're not cheap, I do the exact same thing (only in another store)!

Really? Man, I thought the Nirvana arc was pretty cool. Gerard was definitely a twist for me, I wasn't expecting them to be one in the same, although I probably SHOULD have. I just didn't. Other than that, I pretty much agree. I liked the Edolas arc... but idk. I'd like an arc where the people of FT fail and have to recover from a failure, I think it would make for interesting plot and character development.

Yeah - you should have. ;)

I found the Nivanna arc had the pieces but not the development. I think the second best was Gray's backstory. Since Gerard though, it has been very shallow in depth. I'm hoping good things come from death kid.

As for OP, it gets good once you get to Grand Line. Alabasta (or whatever the kingdom was) was a fantastic arc and storyline - what was it? 60 chapters or more? It really put me into the mood to keep reading.

EDIT: went and checked. If you start with the first introduction of Baroque Work, we're talking 100 chapters. I like stories that take that amount of planning and build up.

You guys enjoyed the Alabasta arc much more than I did. It was good (since it was OP) but pretty boring compared to the rest of the story to me.

You're not cheap, I do the exact same thing (only in another store)!


I do too. I got a Books-A-Million a few miles from where I live, and always went their to read shit for free. It's kinda their fault though, since they have chairs inside the store for that purpose.

I stopped doing it so much because the people working their would give me bad looks whenever I showed up. They would have that "Not this guy again" look on their faces. In my defense though, I always put the books back where they were suppose to go, instead of just dumping them on the table like everyone else. You would think people would be grateful...geesh.

My Mom used to take me there when I was a kid because we didn't always have the money for a movie or a restaurant, and I always loved reading so I grew up in B&N. When I was a pre-teen to teen my girlfriend would go there after her volleyball practice/game to get a Frap/Iced Coffee and the movies were right next to the B&N so she would change in the bathroom or in the car and we would just walk to the movies. I get to read for a few hours and drink a caffeinated drink, and we got to hang out Fridays/Saturdays (depending). Many people EXPECT athletes not to read, and I constantly get asked "You read?".

Edit: The whole thing was just meh to me. Even when Luffy and Croc. fought, it was boring and somewhat predictable. I enjoyed the mini-arcs pre-Alabasta, and everything post-Alabasta.

You guys enjoyed the Alabasta arc much more than I did. It was good (since it was OP) but pretty boring compared to the rest of the story to me.


The Alabasta arc was very slow starting to me. All that walking through the desert, was meh. Once the action got started it was great. The perverted camels was lulzy. The intro of Ace into the story was great. Pell was by far the most heroic dude in that arc. Saving everyone and taking a mini nuke at point blank range made me respect him greatly. Plus he lived at the end. Nice.

You guys enjoyed the Alabasta arc much more than I did. It was good (since it was OP) but pretty boring compared to the rest of the story to me.

But the Alabasta arc is the first arc where OP justifies his position as the best weekly shounen manga.

The Alabasta arc was the only one I really followed on Toonami when it was on, and after the dub got handed over to Funimation, the only bits I saw were from the Skypeia arc. Which is, other than a few epic parts, a testament to how fucking trippy the series can get.

But the Alabasta arc is the first arc where OP justifies his position as the best weekly shounen manga.

I don't know, I just didn't enjoy it as much as the rest of One Piece. It was so dull for me, and I felt like it dragged by. Maybe I should watch the anime and see if that changes my mind.


Oh, and I also had a severe ear infection at the time I was reading it - so maybe I didn't get to thoroughly enjoy what the arc had to offer. I guess after reading Fairy Tail I need to re-read it, huh?

@KillerNN

Ah! Of course. I forgot that you mentioned that you were cheap. Cheap bastard. Plus Naruto sucks so much ass that the discussion thread became a One Piece Discussion Thread.

My favorite One Piece character is Ace. Dude is more badass than anyone in Naruto.

Ah! Of course. I forgot that you mentioned that you were cheap. Cheap bastard. Plus Naruto sucks so much ass that the discussion thread became a One Piece Discussion Thread.

OP booty clearly overweights Armadillo Penises!

@KillerNN

Ah! Of course. I forgot that you mentioned that you were badass. Badass motherfucker. Plus Naruto sucks so much dick that the discussion thread became a One Piece/Isaiah Discussion Thread.

My favorite One Piece character is Luffy. The weakest character is more badass than anyone in Naruto.

Fixed for you bro, don't worry I know what you were TRYING to say.

Fixed for you bro, don't worry I know what you were TRYING to say.

Thanks man. Plus. That is definitely True as well.

I think i read nearly 200+ pages in a few hours one time.

I did that before. I didn't particularly like the book, however, for my Anthropology class, it needed to be read and I slacked off on the reading and waited until the last moment to finish it. More than half of the book was killed off in a day and since then, I vowed never to do that again (though my views on that might be different if I thoroughly enjoyed the book).

EDIT: TSO has a badass avatar.

Askeladd from Vinland Saga. Cool character, awesome manga (you might have heard that already). Based on viking culture and history.

I've started Fairy Tale and One Piece a while ago. No where near where I should be. I think I'll drop Fairy Tale to get further ahead in One Piece.

Edit:

Holy crap, this deserves something.

I don't. I would sit in the B&N and read until I finish the book. And this was an every Sunday afternoon thing, since it was only about 3 miles from my house.

Well, I have my cheap moments.

KillerNN, youse's a cheap, grease savin', store readin', penny pickin', tightwad ass mothafucka.lol

Don't worry, I take up like more than half of those categories... If only you can see my face when I discover a quarter...

I've saved grease several times. Because it's still fucking usable after the first time.

I saved some grease from Saturday to make some Fried Chicken drummetes, and it was fucking delicious.


HATERZ GONNA FUCKIN' HATE

edit: and also, I fucking love pennies thank you very much. I got 25$ on pennies and nickels one time, and I was a happy mofo.

KillerNN, youse's a cheap, grease savin', store readin', penny pickin', tightwad ass mothafucka.lol

Don't worry, I take up like more than half of those categories... If only you can see my face when I discover a quarter...

Like this bro?

edit: the previous image macro was dumb and gay

http://thxforthe.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/fuck-yeah.jpg

YES OMG! I was bout to feel really down if I had to break a bill to get a quarter. One time, no one had any change and I had to do laundry. I would just hand wash those boys but I needed them for the morning. My coat was old, and I just happened to remember the clashing of coins circling inside a pocket hole and through the coat. I dug around and found two quarters! Holy crap, after that, a shitty ass day (I'm talking about a rain cloud following your ass all day) felt like rainbows (not that Naruto shit, real blurry ass rainbows were you can only see a blur of colors and is a bit faded, but you know it's there) and sunshine! True story...

i logged in, went into this forum,clicked last page...
"oh there talkin bout stupid money decisions or something"

i broke a hundred dolla bill for one lollipop at tha corner store once, tha guy thought i was high.k im out, bye.

Yeah I'm finding FT hard to get into. One Piece still reigns supreme over all other Shounen.
Claymore is way better than One Piece.

I have a cool cheap story too.
My sister mailed me some good info last week. The local supermarket gives away free pizza. For that you need to go to their website and print a coupon. Each coupon has a code on it and equals a pizza box of 3 pizza's. Tuna, Margarita, Salami etc etc. Shoved pile of paper into printer. Went to store. 30 free pizza's. Could've gotten more, but ran out of ink, and am too cheap to buy new ink for free pizza. Enjoyed pizza for breakfast, lunch and dinner every day until now. AH ftw.
And that's how I gained weight in less than a week.

Money Saving Methods?

uhh. I throw all of my lose change into a can. But other than that I see something I want. I get it.

However, those cheap bitches I roll with are fucking cheap. Putting Kool Aid in water bottles and pulling out in movies and in restaurants in shit. But when the holiday seasons come. Those bitches sure do buy Silverblade a lot of expensive things. Which is awesome.

Claymore is way better than One Piece.

Well, dunno. It all comes down to taste.

For me, Claymore is a lot better then most Shounen, but then again, I like seeing arms and legs being chopped off.

I like Naruto more then OP, since people in Naruto die here and there. In OP hardly anyone dies. I simply dislike works like that no matter how fun they are. And I won't say that Oda > Kishimoto in writing either. Oda is more consistent and doesn't have idiotic ass-pulls like Kishimoto has, that's for sure (well, Gear2), but I wouldn't necessarily say that he is a better writer overall.

Claymore got kinda...boring. The problem with it is that Priscilla became Aizen. And that sucks major ass.

ACT: Yes, I should have, I know. But when I was reading it, I was always like.. why the fuck do these dude look alike? Are they brothers, are they the same person? WTF? Then once they stood next to each other and just fused, my jaw dropped like HOLY SHIT, was NOT expecting that.

Also, i don't need any of that. All I need is a canteen of water and I can read 600 chapters in a week... I can really read 600 chapters in a day if you gave me nothing else to do. Although keeping up with the story might be a little hard.

I would definitely say Kishi WAS a better writer than Oda, but for whatever reason, he completely bogged down and drove his story off course. He had great characters, motivations and means - and yet he fucked it up. I don't know if he bit more off than he could chew or whatever, but that's how I see it. Oda picked his course and isn't straying. It isn't the best literary work, but it runs better - and the action is pretty good, too.

I put Part I as being better than OP, but as a whole work, unless Kishi starts pulling out stops I didn't think of, OP will go in my book as the better manga as a whole. In comparison, FT is just too simple to compare fully. Storywise, I think it is grossly lacking, but it does make up for it in humour and just simple enjoyment. You like Natsu because he destroys things and fights... not because he's a great character.

And thanks for the insights into Claymore - which I'm not up to date on. Sweet... I really need to be more careful on this thing we call the interwebs.

I get the distinct feeling people comment on One Piece without being up to date on it or not reading it at all. Some of the comments are pretty baseless I'm sorry to say.

But, if you don't want to read it/gave it a chance and didn't like it no harm no foul.

People talk so much about part 1 of Naruto but really that kind of sucked arse as well. The only real saving point in part 1 was the relevance of Kakashi & Sasuke making Naruto look like a dork. Overall though Naruto as a character was still an idiotic fur fag who would ether talk people to death or win because he simply had more raw power. Even the villains were sub par at best which includes Zabuza. Zabuza who really is the only real villain that should be talked about ended up braking down like a pussy before his death. Oro was an animated version of Micheal Jackson while Kabuto never really got true screen time(that still hasn't changed). Gaara was irrelevant since he also became a pussy while Kimi had aids. Overall I'd say Kishi's story has always been kind of shitty but I put up with it because Sasuke is so cool.

Claymore is simply a better manga when compared to the loony toon style of One Piece or the fur fag mentality of Naruto. Priscilla was pretty much hyped since her introduction as being the strongest & in no way shape or form can be compared to Aizen who has taken credit for everything which includes forcing his father to have sex with his mother so Ichigo could be born into this world (sarcasm but you get the point). For all we know Priscilla may not even be the final villain since at this point (spoiler) she's fighting Clare in a god mode(the destroyer) yet there are still other things yet to be addressed within the manga (Raki & Louvre).

One thing that did get on my nerves about Claymore (spoiler) is how fast Isley was killed off. I was kind of hoping that his character would be further expanded by revealing that Isley (along with some other ABs) were actually able to retain their humanity after awakening but choose to leave the Organization because of the truth behind it. Isley to me didn't seem like other Yuma/AB personality wise.

Claymore is simply a better manga when compared to the loony toon style of One Piece

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Sorry, but what exactly do you mean ? Are you talking about the art style alone or the story ?

If it is the story i strongly disagree, and also it sounds like you know next to nothing about One piece.

That's true, I am not up to date with OP.

But, I started watching OP before Naruto. First watched it to episode 30 or something. And I didn't like it. Well, not that I hated it, but it was 'meh'. When I saw Naruto, I also thought that it would suck since I saw a talking dog, but when I started watching it from the start, it pulled me right in, whereas OP didn't. I had to force myself to continue watching OP later, since I knew it was good.

I will be back to OP manga sometime next month, and then we'll see. I am sure I will find some things amazing, but I am definitely not sure that I will change my opinion, since I already experienced a lot of Shounen and know what I like.

But, I started watching OP before Naruto.

2 things I have to say about this:

1. OP is old, the first few arcs are old animation. The current ones are mind blowing. I can give you links if you want.

2. The first 3 mini arcs are a bit slow ( lucky they are very short, thus the word mini), but once you hit Baratie/Arlong park its all gravy from there on.

i havet been keeping up with my op at all i've been trin to catch up with my op manga but no luck so far.

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Sorry, but what exactly do you mean ? Are you talking about the art style alone or the story ?

If it is the story i strongly disagree, and also it sounds like you know next to nothing about One piece.
I use to read One Piece because one of my Ex's read it. I'm aware that they made it to grand line & I'm aware of a timeskip where Goofy I mean Luffy has gained god status. One Piece is just another power manga with a loony toon type of art style. That being said I prefer things like Claymore (which is simply better), Fairy Tail, & Soul Eater over One Piece. One Piece is ok because there's a dude named Zoro & shit but allot of the other characters including the hero tend to get on my nerves.

PS: To answer your question directly story wise as well as art style wise Claymore is better.

I just hit the restaurant on the water arc in OP. With the red leg guy lol. Not good at memorizing names if I'm just getting into a series. I think it's pretty good so far, the best swordsman in the world just made a fool out of Zoro which was pretty entertaining, that tiny ass knife he had made me lol.

That being said I prefer things like Claymore (which is simply better)

Based on what exactly ?

No offense, but your comment on the power lvls on the OP thread a few days ago made it blatantly clear that you really don't know anything about OP. You don't see me saying that OP > Claymore, since I never read Claymore therefore I have no basis for comparison, which is exactly what you're doing.

I'm aware that they made it to grand line & I'm aware of a timeskip where Goofy I mean Luffy has gained god status.

Lol god status ?

That just proves that you have no idea what you're saying. Luffy hasn't gained god status, he and the crew were brought up to a lvl in which they can survive the incoming sea.

One Piece is just another power manga with a loony toon type of art style.

Again you make a baseless claim. Oda's art style has evolved just like Kishi's did since the beginning of their respective manga's. And to reduce OP to just a battle manga is ridiculous, the story is full of complexities which you obviously know nothing about.

I don't have time to read it all now, but FT is definitely far below OP.

I don't have time to read it all now, but FT is definitely far below OP.

for the moment in my opinion i think ft is starting to pick up its a good manga and the anime has been pretty good to.

Based on what exactly ?

No offense, but your comment on the power lvls on the OP thread a few days ago made it blatantly clear that you really don't know anything about OP.
So you're saying that the power levels of Luffy & Zoro didn't dramatically increase during the timeskip? Because from what I saw they clearly did. I mean really now Luffy just became Neo. I even mentioned in the same thread that I stopped reading the manga but decided to check out what was going on because of talk of a timeskip. People were saying it was done way better than Kishi's when really it wasn't. The people saying that are just pissed off because Naruto wasn't at a god level at the time of his return. It was cool to see Neo Luffy but really wasn't all that impressed.

You don't see me saying that OP > Claymore, since I never read Claymore therefore I have no basis for comparison, which is exactly what you're doing.
Problem is I actually did read parts of One Piece so I can safely say that this is the case since you know the manga overall really doesn't interest me all that much.

Lol god status ?
Luffy became Neo so yes god status.

That just proves that you have no idea what you're saying. Luffy hasn't gained god status, he and the crew were brought up to a lvl in which they can survive the incoming sea.
Luffy can dodge bullets which makes him Neo aka god status.

Again you make a baseless claim. Oda's art style has evolved just like Kishi's did since the beginning of their respective manga's.
It's not baseless since you know I've actually seen Oda's art style. Oda's style is still very much like loony tones.

And to reduce OP to just a battle manga is ridiculous, the story is full of complexities which you obviously know nothing about.
But it is just another power level manga. It's also a cash cow manga for jump which is why that story can easily go up to 800 chapters. In order to do such things the story itself needs to be diluted to a point where it never really is consistent.

Don't get me wrong Oda does a far better job at prolonging his story when compared to Kishi but it still doesn't change the fact that One Piece is a never ending manga that prolongs it's money making ability by continuously introducing stronger & stronger opponents to raise the bar in power which makes it a power based manga. Nothing really original about that at all really.

Haven't read Claymore (yet) so I can't compare the two. But I can say that OP is the shiznit!!! But lately I have been getting into seinen (manga for grown ass men) instead of reading any new shonen titles. I have been reading Gantz as well as Beserk.

So you're saying that the power levels of Luffy & Zoro didn't dramatically increase during the timeskip? Because from what I saw they clearly did. I mean really now Luffy just became Neo. I even mentioned in the same thread that I stopped reading the manga but decided to check out what was going on because of talk of a timeskip. People were saying it was done way better than Kishi's when really it wasn't. The people saying that are just pissed off because Naruto wasn't at a god level at the time of his return. It was cool to see Neo Luffy but really wasn't all that impressed.
Luffy became Neo so yes god status.

The entire crew got stronger yes, but they are no where near god lvl. If you had read some of the older arcs you'd know that a lot NW pirates completely shit on the SH crew despite the 2 year training. Also, killing a pacifista is no incredible feat. For Luffy it was great but other pirates have done it way before him.

Luffy can dodge bullets which makes him Neo aka god status.

Dodging bullets is a shit feat in OP, Luffy and crew were doing that way before the TS. You completely misunderstood the purpose of that scene, further proving that you don't know jack about Op.

Problem is I actually did read parts of One Piece so I can safely say that this is the case since you know the manga overall really doesn't interest me all that much.

Parts of a 601 chapter long manga, boy that loose summary of how much you know about it really instigates confidence on your knowledge base. You probably read an arc or two and is now pretending you know what you're talking about.

It's not baseless since you know I've actually seen Oda's art style. Oda's style is still very much like loony tones.

No.

If you think Oda's art is anything like what it was in the beginning of the series i suggest you get glasses.

But is it just a battle manga. It's also a cash cow manga for jump which is why that story can easily go up to 800 chapters. In order to do such things the story itself needs to be diluted to a point where it never really is consistent.

Lol, never really consistent. Please, Oda hasn't deviated from his core parameters till date. That is more than you can say for other mangas.

OP is so long because unlike other Mangaka Oda actually gives characters development , and explains aspects of the series in depth. There are complex plot lines such as the Void history, the Will of D and rebellion which will now all be tied together with this final leg of the journey.

Don't get me wrong Oda does a far better job at prolonging his story when compared to Kishi but it still doesn't change the fact that One Piece is a never ending manga that prolongs it's money making ability by continuously introducing stronger & stronger opponents to raise the bar in power. which makes it a power based manga. Nothing really original about that at all really.

Never ending huh, you really need to get up to date before making assumptions like these. The first 597 chapters gave ample bg on all the SHs, set up the conflicts between the Marines/The rebels and the presence of the Youkon, as well as using the very complex void history plot as a cliff hanger to be addressed now in the final leg of the story.

That my friend is called proper development.

Uh oh it looks like "Revenge of the Armadillo Dick" thread has changed into a "One Piece series vs. Everybody Else's shit" thread......BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

edit: since Im on the subject....I think Kishi is one of the 8% that Jonah Hill was talking about in the movie Superbad. You know, the ones who like drawing dicks and shit. and I gotta agree with Dag on the whole One Piece deal. That is a story that could be 1200 chapters and still be readable.

Uh oh it looks like "Revenge of the Armadillo Dick" thread has changed into a "One Piece series vs. Everybody Else's shit" thread......BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Since I don' read Claymore (yet), I won't get in the way of Vengeance. But comparing OP with the other ongoing weekly Shounen Manga, OP reigns supreme: the slow pace, the consistency and the much better humor just make reading it a breeze of fresh air for me.

(Now that I've the time to pick it up again, let's see if I can make read one more arc tonight!)

A wood clone would +rep Yamato, but it's too early for the discovery of their base.

man,their base has already been discovered.but on the other hand it was too easy finding their base.kabuto sure has something planned.hmm

lol lol lol

Sensei is going to RAEG when he sees chidoriQ.

Also, OP reigns supreme over all manga because it does. Thats why?

Haven't read Claymore (yet) so I can't compare the two. But I can say that OP is the shiznit!!! But lately I have been getting into seinen (manga for grown ass men) instead of reading any new shonen titles. I have been reading Gantz as well as Beserk.

sigh. I wish berserk had a more consistent author. there hasnt been a new chap in like 3 months. its been going on for 20 years. by the time its over itll be another 20 years

guiz erm narootoe is the bestest mangaa

man,their base has already been discovered.but on the other hand it was too easy finding their base.kabuto sure has something planned.hmm

With discovering I mean going there. The alliance knows, but doesn't know about Yamato's capture and didn't attack it.

EDIT: KNN, why RAEG? Wait, nvm I know why. Fuck that.

If I saw someone named MosterNN or KillaNN I would RAEG.

Well in your case it might look obvious, but I wouldn't care myself.
@Memphis, I totally agree man. Fuck OP. Naorutoo ftw.

naruto is not the best manga dude there are alot of manga that are better then naruto in my opinion.

naruto is not the best manga dude there are alot of manga that are better then naruto in my opinion.

Naruto's obviously the best one. Have you compared? I think I'm right.

Holy fucking shit, is this guy serious?

sigh. I wish berserk had a more consistent author. there hasnt been a new chap in like 3 months. its been going on for 20 years. by the time its over itll be another 20 years

Welcome to the world or reading Berserk. 3 months waiting for it isn't that much, compared to other time intervals it had...

lol he thought we were serious?

Isn't the author of Berserk crazy or some shit?

Isn't the author of Berserk crazy or some shit?

If Miura Kentarou is crazy, he must be crazy awesome! I just hope Berserk doesn't suffer of Author Existence Failure, since it's been up for 20 years and I wouldn't mind reading it for another 20.

Naruto's obviously the best one. Have you compared? I think I'm right.

yeah i have in my opinion i've found other mangas more intresting.

I am really having trouble letting this continue SQ and Memphis.

c'mon dood u luv dis mangaa 2

sigh. I wish berserk had a more consistent author. there hasnt been a new chap in like 3 months. its been going on for 20 years. by the time its over itll be another 20 years

The chapter should be out, you just reminded me. Look it up.

itachikillsnaruto - They are trolling you so hard, its to the point of pathetic.

I wish I didn't make the post cause I suck.

i'm the one who started and i got ignored, naruto aint that bad tbh it was building up some pace and still is to an extent just no need for animal cock

it's not the best at the moment. yeah im crazy for not seeing it sooner killernn

apart from dix, the story is developing nicely with madara finally looking like a villain

apart from dix, the story is developing nicely with madara finally looking like a villain
Madara, looking like a villain? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0)

rinnegan? no? actually ending someones life withour going crazy yeah he's looking like a villain


he's not on oro's level though

Madara's one big lab rat. Also, Bender ftw.

Wow, so I was just at the narutard chat thread when everyone posted their pics, and I totally forgot how the fuck everyone looked.

Also, Madara fucking sucks. When I first came here, I enjoyed Naruto to a degree and he was on my list of top 10 favorite characters (hence NamikazeNaruto). Now, there are only 2 on that list.

Fuck yeah, KillerBee and Raikage (or Angry Negro Leader)

The only remotely good "big bads" in the series' history have been "pre-fight with Hiruzen" Oro and "pre-Madara" Pain. Oro sucked for 75% of his run, Madara sucks ass, Pain turned fail immediately after Madara showed up and took his place, and Kabuto shouldn't even be counted as a possibility. He is Smug Snake personified, and NO Smug Snake deserves to be a Big Bad.

EDIT: Berserk 316 is out, and they have HQ scans, but no translations yet as far as I could find.

rinnegan? no? actually ending someones life withour going crazy yeah he's looking like a villain

He needs to make more mischiefs to be a good villain in my book. Right now, he's just a doofus that bets more on luck than in success. The only thing he did by himself was killing Konan (a female character in a Kishimoto manga) and even he had to resort to a cheap haxx.

And perhaps getting information from the Shinobi Alliance, but that had so many chances to fail it isn't funny:


What if Kisame captured Killer Bee?
What if Killer Bee killed Kisame before the switch with Zetsu?
What if Samehada didn't get an affinity with Killer Bee?
What if Killer Bee left Samehada behind?
What if Gai destroyed the scroll?
What if the island wasn't only inhabited by a bunch of utter morons that fell for that trap?

EDIT: Berserk 316 is out, and they have HQ scans, but no translations yet as far as I could find.

I'll wait for the translations then. Funny how the sucky Naruto retreats to give place to the awesome Berserk. Life is good.

because sasuke couldn't die and itachi made oro suck, but his attitude of 'for the lulz' and 'coz i want to/can do' made him bad

@ num i did say he was looking like a villain, not that he was there yet, i agree he has to do more and im certain he will, shame we've had to wait this long, but it does show that the story is moving

He needs to make more mischiefs to be a good villain in my book. Right now, he's just a doofus that bets more on luck than in success. The only thing he did by himself was killing Konan (a female character in a Kishimoto manga) and even he had to resort to a cheap haxx.

And perhaps getting information from the Shinobi Alliance, but that had so many chances to fail it isn't funny:


What if Kisame captured Killer Bee?
What if Killer Bee killed Kisame before the switch with Zetsu?
What if Samehada didn't get an affinity with Killer Bee?
What if Killer Bee left Samehada behind?
What if Gai destroyed the scroll?
What if the island wasn't only inhabited by a bunch of utter morons that fell for that trap?


That...or, and this would be giving Kishi way more credit than he deserves, Madara is the single most genre-savvy villain of all time. Kishi realizes that he can't write the damn plot to go in the villain's favor until the very end without copious amounts of Diabolus Ex Machina, and thus his character is AWARE of the fact that he has D-E-M protecting him and his plans. This would be even worse, but it would also be lulzy.

That...or, and this would be giving Kishi way more credit than he deserves, Madara is the single most genre-savvy villain of all time. Kishi realizes that he can't write the damn plot to go in the villain's favor until the very end without copious amounts of Diabolus Ex Machina, and thus his character is AWARE of the fact that he has D-E-M protecting him and his plans. This would be even worse, but it would also be lulzy.

Wouldn't that make him Aizen 2.0, only with his villain score backwards?

Wouldn't that make him Aizen 2.0, only with his villain score backwards?

It would be ever-so-slightly less fail than Aizen as, unlike Aizen, he isn't running around shitting on everyone only to get owned out of god damn nowhere at the very end. Just a little bit.

The entire crew got stronger yes, but they are no where near god lvl. If you had read some of the older arcs you'd know that a lot NW pirates completely shit on the SH crew despite the 2 year training.
Which means what exactly? My point was simple, characters like Luffy & Zoro got dramatic upgrades when compared to how they looked 5 chapters ago. So yes it is a god mode. What you're saying also relates back to what I was saying about One Piece being just another power level manga. The main cast were to weak to fight the opposition so they were given power ups to compensate.

Also, killing a pacifista is no incredible feat. For Luffy it was great but other pirates have done it way before him.
Which means nothing to me. You're defending this as a fan while I'm simply saying that One Piece isn't my type of manga for the reason I gave before.

Dodging bullets is a shit feat in OP, Luffy and crew were doing that way before the TS.
Dodging bullets at point blank range without flinching is nothing new? Bullshit on that dude. Luffy was shown in that way to demonstrate just how much he's grown. He leaned back effortlessly & smacked everyone in the area without even moving. Luffy before the timeskip clearly wasn't doing any of this shit.

You completely misunderstood the purpose of that scene, further proving that you don't know jack about Op.
Again you're simply talking as a fan who can't handle the fact that I don't think One Piece is all that great. Mind you I've talked good things about One Piece in the past even though I don't like the manga.

Parts of a 601 chapter long manga, boy that loose summary of how much you know about it really instigates confidence on your knowledge base.
You act as though that's all I've actually read of the manga. I don't need to read every single chapter of something to know that it's not going to appeal to me. Basically what you're trying to do now is say o you haven't read every single chapter so you can't say that One Piece isn't the best Shounin ever(which it isn't). I can safely say that it isn't since I did actually look into the manga & found it unappealing. Where as things like Claymore, Fairy Tail, Soul Eater, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rave, Blablabla are for more interesting to me than some shitty manga about pirates that is drawn in a cartoonish/loon tone manner.

You probably read an arc or two and is now pretending you know what you're talking
Again you don't know what I've read & am just assuming. I don't need to go into an explanation of which arcs I know since it's really irrelevant to this discussion.

No.
Yes

If you think Oda's art is anything like what it was in the beginning of the series i suggest you get glasses.
It still is. I can show you recent manga pages of what I find loontoonish if you really wanted to. It really isn't hard when you actually take a step back to look at how he draws his manga characters.

Lol, never really consistent. Please, Oda hasn't deviated from his core parameters till date. That is more than you can say for other mangas.
Which means what exactly? My point was simple a story that drags on unnecessarily to make money(which One Piece clearly does) will always find itself deviating from the main plot in some manor.You may not notice this since you're obviously an obsessed fan on this shitty manga however the chapter count of One Piece is proof enough that this is the case.

OP is so long because unlike other Mangaka Oda actually gives characters development , and explains aspects of the series in depth.
Umm no One Piece is this long because One Piece is what makes Jump sell issues. It's called say it with me now a cash cow manga that has been prolonged so Jump & Oda can continue to make money.

There are complex plot lines such as the Void history, the Will of D and rebellion which will now all be tied together with this final leg of the journey.
I don't see One Piece ending anytime soon. If it's popularity continues to be as it is now I can see One Piece easily going on over 800 Chapters. If you think a little time skip is enough to mark the last days of a manga you're sadly mistaken.

Never ending huh, you really need to get up to date before making assumptions like these. The first 597 chapters gave ample bg on all the SHs, set up the conflicts between the Marines/The rebels and the presence of the Youkon, as well as using the very complex void history plot as a cliff hanger to be addressed now in the final leg of the story.
Again not the final leg of the story. Just wait & see One Piece will be dragged out even further. Like I said before you're simply talking as an obsessed fan & not taking a look at the big picture which is One Piece is the main cash cow of Jump. Until another manga gains more popularity for this mag One Piece simply won't end. This is why it's been dragged out for so long & why it isn't ending anytime soon.

That my friend is called proper development.
It's called needlessly doing a bunch of side story to explain background that really isn't even necessary for the overall plot/main focus of the manga. It's how writers drag shit out so they can continue to make money.

wow what along point of view .

Which means what exactly? My point was simple, characters like Luffy & Zoro got dramatic upgrades when compared to how they looked 5 chapters ago. So yes it is a god mode. What you're saying also relates back to what I was saying about One Piece being just another power level manga. The main cast were to weak to fight the opposition so they were given power ups to compensate.

You said they attained god mode, which is incorrect. Oh my, a character getting stronger to face the troubles ahead, that has never happened before in any other manga...

Which means nothing to me. You're defending this as a fan while I'm simply saying that One Piece isn't my type of manga for the reason I gave before.

No, you're claiming that Claymore is superior, while at the same time making baseless critiques. You aren't even up to date on the story, thus you have no basis for comparison.

Dodging bullets at point blank range without flinching is nothing new? Bullshit on that dude. Luffy was shown in that way to demonstrate just how much he's grown. He leaned back effortlessly & smacked everyone in the area without even moving. Luffy before the timeskip clearly wasn't doing any of this shit.

This just goes to show how much you don't know about OP. Luffy dodged bullets before time skip, so did Zoro at point blank range in the SA arc. And you still didn't understand the purpose of that scene, how surprising. Luffy could have just let the bullets bounce of his body due to his DF, but Oda had him simply side step it in order to show that he now possesses Kenboshoku Haki.

Again you're simply talking as a fan who can't handle the fact that I don't think One Piece is all that great. Mind you I've talked good things about One Piece in the past even though I don't like the manga.

Again, I'm simply debating your baseless claims. You don't read the manga and yet talk about as if you know whats going on. I don't care if you don't like it, but I will debunk the points you're trying to convey based on shit info.

You act as though that's all I've actually read of the manga. I don't need to read every single chapter of something to know that it's not going to appeal to me. Basically what you're trying to do now is say o you haven't read every single chapter so you can't say that One Piece isn't the best Shounin ever(which it isn't). I can safely say that it isn't since I did actually look into the manga & found it unappealing. Where as things like Claymore, Fairy Tail, Soul Eater, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rave, Blablabla are for more interesting to me than some shitty manga about pirates that is drawn in a cartoonish/loon tone manner.


Actually you need to know something quite well in order to contrast it with something else in order to come to coherent conclusions. Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass. I compare OP to other manga only when I've read both in their entirety/up to current events.

Again you don't know what I've read & am just assuming. I don't need to go into an explanation of which arcs I know since it's really irrelevant to this discussion.

Indeed it isn't relevant, not now anyways. Since you have made it pretty clear that you don't know jack about OP, claiming that you've read this arc, that arc would be hard to believe.

It still is. I can show you recent manga pages of what I find loontoonish if you really wanted to. It really isn't hard when you actually take a step back to look at how he draws his manga characters.

And I can show you pages with great detailed drawing that he made in the series. I see that you're mostly referring to some of the pirates that look weird, well that is his style. He relates all characters to an attribute and sticks to it.

Hardly looneytoonish as you put it.

Which means what exactly? My point was simple a story that drags on unnecessarily to make money(which One Piece clearly does) will always find itself deviating from the main plot in some manor.You may not notice this since you're obviously an obsessed fan on this shitty manga however the chapter count of One Piece is proof enough that this is the case.

Your ignorance is amusing.

OP has never deviated from the main plot line. It has gone on for so long because Oda actually cares to give the fans info, which more than you can say for the likes of Kishi. Every SH has had an arc dedicated to themselves, with all the back ground info the fans could ask for. Those arcs were also tied in with the main plot and state of the world in that manga.

You call me an obsessed fan, more like a fan who is debunking your crappy claims.

Umm no One Piece is this long because One Piece is what makes Jump sell issues. It's called say it with me now a cash cow manga that has been prolonged so Jump & Oda can continue to make money.


Says the guy who doesn't know a thing about OP, making baseless assumptions is an easy thing ain't it.

I don't see One Piece ending anytime soon. If it's popularity continues to be as it is now I can see One Piece easily going on over 800 Chapters. If you think a little time skip is enough to mark the last days of a manga you're sadly mistaken.

Did I state that i believe that in anytime ?

I suggest you read more carefully, I mentioned that this is the last leg of the story, the final sea NW. Not that the manga is about to end. 800, make that another 600. The manga is great, people wouldn't mind it lasting that long still.

Again not the final leg of the story. Just wait & see One Piece will be dragged out even further. Like I said before you're simply talking as an obsessed fan & not taking a look at the big picture which is One Piece is the main cash cow of Jump. Until another manga gains more popularity for this mag One Piece simply won't end. This is why it's been dragged out for so long & why it isn't ending anytime soon.

Read the latest interview with Oda.

One piece isn't dragging out, it is being told in the correct manner an epic manga like should be told. With development.

It's called needlessly doing a bunch of side story to explain background that really isn't even necessary for the overall plot/main focus of the manga. It's how writers drag shit out so they can continue to make money.

Lol, wow.

People bitch about authors that don't explain anything about their stories. And here you are, trying to slam a guy who does.

I'm beginning to believe you're bashing One Piece simply because someone gave you the impression that it is a cool thing.

Seriously @Dag. Why are u arguing with someone who doesnt read OP and wont understand what u are saying. I stayed out cos I dont read Claymore(will be starting soon though).

U're just pouring water in a basket. He never gonna listen, his mind is made up.

he just loves arguing.lmao..

it's opinions, mine is that one piece is simply good, nothing more nothing less, yes i read it and enjoy reading it, but it's nothing special, the timeskip wasn't that good either, i also don't get why it is so much better than kishi's, on both accounts characters were shown too be stronger, just a shame kishi slacked in his story telling after the TS

the timeskip wasn't that good either

There have only been 4 chapters into p2, and so far they were all been excellent.


i also don't get why it is so much better than kishi's, on both accounts characters were shown too be stronger

I have to dispute that.

Naruto came back from 2.5 years of training with barely any upgrades, not the type of result you would expect from someone who was trained by a legend like Jiraya.

Contrast that with how Luffy/Crew came back from TS and the difference is staggering.

just a shame kishi slacked in his story telling after the TS

That's an understatement.

^true .

There have only been 4 chapters into p2, and so far they were all been excellent.



I have to dispute that.

Naruto came back from 2.5 years of training with barely any upgrades, not the type of result you would expect from someone who was trained by a legend like Jiraya.

Contrast that with how Luffy/Crew came back from TS and the difference is staggering.



That's an understatement.

but then again j-man was trying to make naruto a smarter ninja by haveing him try to figure oh to improve his own skills thats were j-man failed when training naruto.

but then again j-man was trying to make naruto a smarter ninja by haveing him try to figure oh to improve his own skills thats were j-man failed when training naruto.

I was under the impression that Jiraya's focus was on aiding Naruto in controlling the Kyubi's chakra. Can you refer to the page where Jiraya said/implies what you posted about ?