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Roy Mustang
12-18-2004, 06:32 PM
is Itachi afraid of Jiraiya? and if itachi is afraid of jiraiya it must mean jiraiya is stronger than orochimaru

horus
12-18-2004, 07:30 PM
I doubt that highly.. I mean I think it's the other way around. Because Itachi clearly broke free of Jiraiyas' move easily. I would like to see them go at it but I think Itachi will beat Jiraiya.

nma
12-18-2004, 07:35 PM
I doubt that highly.. I mean I think it's the other way around. Because Itachi clearly broke free of Jiraiyas' move easily. I would like to see them go at it but I think Itachi will beat Jiraiya.
I wouldn't say easily, cuz after he used that last jutsu he could no longer hold up his sharingan. I think that Jiraiya would be able to beat Itachi, and I think that if Orochimaru had his hands that he could too.

horus
12-18-2004, 07:51 PM
Good point but I think Itachi has one advantage on both of the. The mangekyou sharingan(hopefully I spelt this right). But Jiraiya and Orochimaru do have their good points to like Orochimaru can use forbidden jutsu.

spiral_vortex
12-18-2004, 08:09 PM
itachi isn't afraid of jiraya he is just kinda lazy to fight cause things get too troublesome thats wat i think...............he wants things to be strightforward so wen things get to much a hassle he decides to leave

nma
12-18-2004, 08:21 PM
Good point but I think Itachi has one advantage on both of the. The mangekyou sharingan(hopefully I spelt this right).
Yeah but I think that both of them now that. So they'll like stare at Itachi's chest or something. Jiraiya's already good at that :D.

issuedman
12-18-2004, 08:53 PM
itachi said they will have trouble getting naruto since jiraiya is hanging around him and protecting him, and kind of incinuated that hes scared of him because he told kisame not to fight him. but the world may never know o_O

Jiraiya
12-18-2004, 11:49 PM
noope , itachi isn't afraid of jiraiya, he said "it would be troublesome to go up against him. and the only reason that oro can't stand up against itachi becuase of the sharingan and that's why oro wants sasuke

H_I
12-22-2004, 09:33 AM
I think He wasnt afraid, But he knew that Jiraya would kill Kisame with ease, and he would have more then likely beaten Jiraya but taken severe damage. Thus defeating the point of trying to steal Naruto.... Just my theory

itachi41
12-22-2004, 09:43 AM
yahz, he had a 50 50% chance of beating jiraiya but kisame would probably be killed in a sec but itachi could either defeat him or take severe damage or die ... but if thats so, it would beat the motive of just stealing naruto ... dats y he left saying no need to worry bout naruto in his state ... he was meaning dat naruto pose no threat at the moment so they retreated

kazu_chan
12-22-2004, 09:46 AM
jiraiya i think he would win itachi mite not be scared of him but the fact that he ran away tells us that he was either goin to get really damaged or he was goin to lose..!!

horus
12-22-2004, 10:48 AM
Kisame is weak as hell compared to jiraiya! but Itachi will give him a run for his money!

mpp
12-23-2004, 01:06 AM
kisame stands no chance agianst jiraiya but itachi would probably wipe the floor with him

issuedman
12-23-2004, 02:44 PM
how come everyone says that kisame is weak? we havent seen him fight, unless there was something in the manga later on that happened and us anime watchers dont know about

1tachi
12-29-2004, 02:38 AM
kisame wasnt even finished fighting......

Gai_Sensei
12-29-2004, 04:52 AM
My thoughts are that Itachi and Jyria are equal in strength, Kisame hasn't really faught yet so we don't quite know. I'm pretty sure that if a fight between any of them breaks out, it would be a good one.

xratedjm
12-30-2004, 04:27 AM
jiraiya is the best out of them he can beat orochimaru and dont even mention itachi as it seems the whole akatsuki is aiming to kill orochimaru but hes still alive i dont think itachi is all that great.....

david_sasuke
12-30-2004, 12:20 PM
lol, they even said it would be hard to fight jiraiya in episode 83 and said they both put there lives up if they fought him, plus they did a cheap move to try to get naruto

nelsonkong
12-30-2004, 10:22 PM
Well, i think Jiraiya can beat itachi, he is just a bit playfull.

nelsonkong
12-30-2004, 10:25 PM
Well, i am following the anime. It doesn't really show how good is itachi but i know he is a genius ninja.

palette
12-30-2004, 11:43 PM
Jiraiya surely will beat itachi that why itachi afraid to fight jiraiya...i think.

nma
12-30-2004, 11:54 PM
I think that Jiraiya would beat Itachi. Itachi even said it himself in ep 83 'If we fight him, we both put our lives at risk.' I also think that if Orochimaru had his arms could beat Itachi.

leingod3355
12-30-2004, 11:56 PM
i think that itachi is not afraid of jiraiya...he fled because to me, i think he does not know jiraiya was there with naruto in the first place...i think that on that time, he is not ready to have a huge fight against jiraiya...he wiped the whole uchiha clan in one night, so, why must he be afraid of jiraiya....

nma
12-31-2004, 12:01 AM
i think that itachi is not afraid of jiraiya...he fled because to me, i think he does not know jiraiya was there with naruto in the first place...i think that on that time, he is not ready to have a huge fight against jiraiya...he wiped the whole uchiha clan in one night, so, why must he be afraid of jiraiya....
I dont think that Itachi wouldnt be scared of Jiraiya because he's like a pyschopath with no emotions. And he knew that Jiraiya was there, thats why he used that girl to get Jiraiya out of the way. Anywho, I think that Jiraiya is stronger than Itachi, and Itachi knows it. Watch ep 83 again and read what Itachi says carefully. He says something along the lines that 'If we fight him, we both put our lives at risk. Even if there were more of our kind(Akatsuki), nothing would make a differnce.'

david_sasuke
12-31-2004, 12:52 AM
^ as i said almost lol

Ewix
12-31-2004, 01:49 AM
I dont think that Itachi wouldnt be scared of Jiraiya because he's like a pyschopath with no emotions. And he knew that Jiraiya was there, thats why he used that girl to get Jiraiya out of the way. Anywho, I think that Jiraiya is stronger than Itachi, and Itachi knows it. Watch ep 83 again and read what Itachi says carefully. He says something along the lines that 'If we fight him, we both put our lives at risk. Even if there were more of our kind(Akatsuki), nothing would make a differnce.'
hmmm u never no Itachi has some Jutsu tat Jiraiya trying to find out like how he break through tat frog stomach with some black flame o.O

xratedjm
12-31-2004, 03:20 AM
he wiped out the whole uchiha clan yes but maybe that was because they were surprised as he did it in the night as well also im sure when they saw him unless they saw him take a life they would probably be asking him why and who did it its not like they were all aware of it and why is taking out the whole of that clan a big deal...destroying a mountain with a tail is a big deal when u have nine and putting all that in one boy...now thats something....itachi knows his place in the ninja world thats why he ran

laker
12-31-2004, 09:05 AM
Jiraiya is stonger than Itachi and orochimaru. like what nma's say upthere in ep 83 it clearly show that Itachi knew that Jiraiya is stonger and i can't remember the ep but there was one where orochimaru say that Itachi was stonger than him. so if there was a fight bettween the two of them my bet is that Jiraiya will win.

ATM
12-31-2004, 09:14 AM
Itachi isnt afriad of jiraiya i think it would be to bothersome for Itachi to fight him......

itachi41
12-31-2004, 09:39 AM
kisame is really weak we dun even need to see him fight ... he is two ranks lower den itachi in the ataksuki gang ... and oro is in between them ... i think jiraiya would win itachi ... like my previous post it was in page 1 ... itachi had a 50 50% chance of defeating jiraiya either die or win with severe damage that goes the same for jiraiya ... but i think jiraiya would stand a greater chance ... using 1 out of the 3 legendary jutsus of sharingan would cause the user to have severe stress ... remember kisame saying this is episode 82 "Itachi-san,dont use that eye too much or u might die"

so thats why when gai came to back up asuma itachi chose to ran away ... cause he was not confident of beating another jounin after using the 1st legendary jutsu of the sharingan ... and gai had the speed ... and sharingan greatest weakness is the opponent's great speed ... so when itachi met up with jiraiya ... he used the 1st legendary jutsu on sasuke ... and used the 2nd 1 to break free from jiraiya's jutsu and kisame told itachi on that episode "itachi-san couldnt u ?" itachi replied"no need to worry about naruto at that state and i need to rest" after saying that his sharingan was turned off meaning he had a hard time keeping it up so he "offed" it

littlenicky0
12-31-2004, 02:36 PM
WHAT ARE U PEEPLE SMOKING ITACHI WOULD OWN ALL OF THEM...oro said itachi was stronger...obviously thats y he want sasuke...but itachi owned kakashi...the only guy that could take a hit would be gui cuz he knows how to fight the sharingan

laker
12-31-2004, 05:19 PM
orochimaru didn't just want sasuke becasue itachi was stonger than him. orochimaru want sasuke because he want to master all move or in just one word the sharingan.

noxide
12-31-2004, 07:45 PM
Jiraiya is stonger than Itachi and orochimaru. like what nma's say upthere in ep 83 it clearly show that Itachi knew that Jiraiya is stonger and i can't remember the ep but there was one where orochimaru say that Itachi was stonger than him. so if there was a fight bettween the two of them my bet is that Jiraiya will win.

Jiraiya is not stronger than orichimaru. He doesn't want to fight to cause a war he says that mulitple times to kisame. Secondly he would sustain alot damage after fighting jiraiya. And since he is a S ranked criminal and in konoha he is at a big disadvantage since there would be alot of ninja after him

laker
12-31-2004, 09:52 PM
Jiraiya is not stronger than orichimaru. He doesn't want to fight to cause a war he says that mulitple times to kisame. Secondly he would sustain alot damage after fighting jiraiya. And since he is a S ranked criminal and in konoha he is at a big disadvantage since there would be alot of ninja after him


Itachi didn't say that they would sustain a lot of damage he said that if they are able to kill Jiraiya they too will die along with him. that show that Jiraiya is stronger watch ep 83 where Itachi said that even if him and the other guy plus somemore people it wouldn't matter. look what happen to kaskia and the others two ninja Itachi and that guy try to kill them but they didn't go head on with Jiraiya. also Itachi order was to get naruto if Itachi knew that they were stronger wouldn't they have succed in their mission? i got all of the eps and watched them all too and read the manga up to the latest one and there haven't been a sign that Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya.

Kyuubi Naruto
01-01-2005, 12:18 AM
Jiraiya isnt as innocent as he seems you know, he has moves that we havent seen yet

RadioHostage
01-01-2005, 01:40 AM
i think you are ALL jumping to conclusions here. I mean, so far Itachi has not been shown in the series for very long, and when he was, it wasnt that long.

Second of all, hes barely had any contact with Jiraiya so far, and hen he did, it was in the middle of a fight, so there was really no room for opinion or talking. Also, even if Itachi was afraid of Jiraiya, How would we know. Itachi is completely emotionless almost, so we would not be able to tell so far.

Malik4874
01-01-2005, 04:25 AM
jiraiya is stronger than itachi even he said that if fought jiraiya he would lose

kei
01-13-2005, 09:34 PM
itachi is the strongest in naruto with his sharingan he can copy anyones stye

strider4545
01-13-2005, 10:15 PM
not really. Jaraiya is one of the strongest ninjas ever. and i thnik that itachi is afraid of him cause he knows he is weaker than him.

Meteorain27
01-13-2005, 10:15 PM
Itachi says himself that Jiraiya is stronger than him and that in the best case he and Kisame could kill him, but die in the process anyways.

h4kk3
01-14-2005, 04:47 AM
Itachi is obviously not afraid of Jiraiya, I think Itachi would win in a battle between him and Jiraiya.

hotohori
01-14-2005, 06:38 AM
Nah I dont think Itachi's afraid of Jiraiya. I dont think "afraid" would be the right term... Itachi's so emotionless... I dont think he could possibly feel fear. He just acknowledged that Jiraiya is probably stronger than him (Ep 83). Though we all won't know for sure until they actually fight. One thing for sure, if they do fight, it'll be a kick ass fight ;) .

H_I
01-14-2005, 02:27 PM
I hate to Put my 2 cents in. But At exactly 8:53 epsidoes 83. Kisame says and i quote.

Kisame-Perhaps you can fight him Evenly(Jiraiya) But I cannot he is too strong.

Itachi-Yes, If we both fought Him we both be Killed, Or in a good case, We might kill him but we'd die along with Him. And even if we Had more men the result would not change.

Kisame-His care taker is a Legendary Sannin(Naruto)Konoha's Uchiha Clan And the Mist seven Shinobi Gatana seem petty in front of his name.

Then Itachi says-Yes you are right but all Men have weakness. Thus Itachi sending a woman to Jiraiya.

So there you have it people. Jiraiya is the Stronger Between the Two. And Kisame is a mere bug compared to ero-sennin.

heartthrob_god
01-14-2005, 08:17 PM
Itachi is surely afraid of jiraiya. Remember the episode when itachi and his companion (I forgot the name), itachi said that fighting Jiraiya would be detrimental to them. Itachi: "On the worst case scenario, we would both be killed. on the best case scenario, we would beat him but we will die with him. The outcome won't change even if we have more men." That is how great Jiraiya-sama is. Itachi even use amaterasu, his "when there's no other way" jutsu just to escape from Jiraiya's powers.....

DoctorPepper
01-15-2005, 04:24 AM
OMG, would you people plz read the previos posts before posting something!
Anyway, its 100% Jiraiya. But Itachi isnt afraid of him. He just knows that he would lose and avoids any contact with him. And after he was able to break out of that barrier, Itachi was complitley exhausted while Jiraya didnt even break a swet. Maybe some of you people think that he is strong cause he beat Kakashi so easely, but 1st: I dont think that itachi would lose in TaiJutsu and second: He used the highest rank nojutsu on him.

OnA Virus
01-15-2005, 06:19 AM
Tell me if I'm wrong, but when Itachi first came to town with that guy with the chakra eating sword (I know I suck, I can't think of his name), didn't Itachi say that the two of them wouldn't be enough to face Jiraiya? The went there to get Sasuke but when he saw Jiraiya he had to devise a plan to separate the two of them, which led to Sasuke being alone in the hotel and Jiraiya and the pretty girl, etc.

DoctorPepper
01-15-2005, 07:27 AM
Yeah, Itachi even said himself that he cant beat Jiraya. Or maybe he can, but then it will cost him his life.

SakuraUchiha
01-15-2005, 07:43 AM
Well I think Itachi is stronger cause he beat Kakashi who was also pretty strong. No questions asked.^_^

DoctorPepper
01-15-2005, 07:56 AM
:eek: are u @[#@# or something? Kakashi... Is pretty weak, u know... And he didnt beat him, he just crushed his spirit. Next time they will fight it wont be that easy, u know...

brent_d
01-18-2005, 06:29 AM
YEs,that could probably be the case.Jiraiya might be stonger than Oro,but oro is much smarter...Itachi is afraid of him because he knows that Jiraiya is a Sannin and a very experienced ninja....

ondu
01-18-2005, 06:43 AM
lol...i think this is the part that you guys should open myths book on japanese culture.

orochimaru could beat jiraiya coz he is a snake and jiraiya is a toad(i'm refering to the myth).orochimaru o

Chek out narutofever , the scroll house and then slug , snake and toad.

i'm referring to keitaro post.jiraiya is stronger than orochimaru
i'm sure ya'll understand.

godzilla-j
01-19-2005, 06:43 PM
i think that itachi is not afraid of jirya. he did run away, but probly because he was tired.