im sure this has probably bin done b4, but i was wondering, do you think the use of sharingan (normal full-grown) enhances the users normal vision as well? I mean if we look at it this way, seeing that the sharingan is a jutsu (and one that takes up lots of chakra as well) it would probably require alot of chakra to surge to the eyes at a constant rate, and like blood pressure, it would probably mean that the chakra "veins" would have to expand to let the chakra run through, and i was thinking, if a person used sharingan regularly enough, would it sorta work like a mouthguard? the "veins" would naturally enlarge past its normal capacity so that it did not have to move so much each time the jutsu is activated, so that at its normal rate, more chakra could flow through the eyes which would result in slight "enhancements" of the users eyes. (a possible example of this is when itachi does the kunai practice, when he lands we get a clear shot of his eyes, which did not have the sharingan operated at that point). i think this would also provide a reasonable explanation regarding the alleged "blindness" of itachi, because seeing that the sharingan requires so much chakra at its normal rate, the mangekyo would probably require an almost insane amount compared to the normal rate, and so in this case, the chakra flows so fast and in such quantities that the veins of the chakra ports would not be able to accomodate it well enough, causing the user to be damaged each time he/she uses it.

well thats my two cents what do u think?

Can I say, that that is a very good theory you have there, which is somewhat correct. But....I'm not allowed to say anything.
However, you are right about the amount of chakara flowing through the users veins. Do you remember when Itachi used the mangekyo sharingan, the veins made his eyes looked like he shattered them or so. Really at that time, the use of the mangekyo is supposed to be painful and like you said takes an insane amount of chakara. For sasuke to be able to achieve that, he's gotta take pain like a pinch of salt...When using the mangekyo, the users eye sight enhances but strains the eyes giving the "blindness" effect...

Yeah. So you can say Itachi is slowly turning blind. That is if he keeps using his Mangekyou.

Hahaha then It Sasuke's turn to say to Itachi you're not worth killing... Hahaha

blind man's bluff....

Can I say, that that is a very good theory you have there, which is somewhat correct. But....I'm not allowed to say anything.
However, you are right about the amount of chakara flowing through the users veins. Do you remember when Itachi used the mangekyo sharingan, the veins made his eyes looked like he shattered them or so. Really at that time, the use of the mangekyo is supposed to be painful and like you said takes an insane amount of chakara. For sasuke to be able to achieve that, he's gotta take pain like a pinch of salt...When using the mangekyo, the users eye sight enhances but strains the eyes giving the "blindness" effect...
Why are you not allowed to say anything, who is making you be quiet.

im sure this has probably bin done b4, but i was wondering, do you think the use of sharingan (normal full-grown) enhances the users normal vision as well? I mean if we look at it this way, seeing that the sharingan is a jutsu (and one that takes up lots of chakra as well) it would probably require alot of chakra to surge to the eyes at a constant rate, and like blood pressure, it would probably mean that the chakra "veins" would have to expand to let the chakra run through, and i was thinking, if a person used sharingan regularly enough, would it sorta work like a mouthguard? the "veins" would naturally enlarge past its normal capacity so that it did not have to move so much each time the jutsu is activated, so that at its normal rate, more chakra could flow through the eyes which would result in slight "enhancements" of the users eyes. (a possible example of this is when itachi does the kunai practice, when he lands we get a clear shot of his eyes, which did not have the sharingan operated at that point). i think this would also provide a reasonable explanation regarding the alleged "blindness" of itachi, because seeing that the sharingan requires so much chakra at its normal rate, the mangekyo would probably require an almost insane amount compared to the normal rate, and so in this case, the chakra flows so fast and in such quantities that the veins of the chakra ports would not be able to accomodate it well enough, causing the user to be damaged each time he/she uses it.

well thats my two cents what do u think?
I don't really agree. Thats like saying that since Kakashi and Sasuke use the chidori (which uses way more chakra than the sharingan) their hands should be super strong.

I doubt it. I would assume it could only effect the vision if the chakra ports going through there got damaged. If you said that, I apologize. I didn't feel like reading your entire post.

That's quite a good theory there, Ero_Ni_Sama. You explained it very scientifically. :)

I don't really agree. Thats like saying that since Kakashi and Sasuke use the chidori (which uses way more chakra than the sharingan) their hands should be super strong.

Well, not really. When they use the chidori, it doesn't really enlarge or enhance their hands, does it? I mean, it's quite a different analogy to compare hands and eyes. I mean, umm... how do I explain my thought...

Look at it this way. When somebody, let's say Sasuke, uses the Sharingan, he calls on chakra to his eyes so that he can see the chakra patterns of his opponent, copy his moves, etc. So the chakra directly works on his eyes. When Sasuke uses the Chidori, he gathers the chakra to his hand, true, but the chakra isn't there to improve (ok don't take this word literally) his hand; it is there as an extension to his hand. It's, like, attached to his hand so he can easily plunge it to his opponent's chest. In theory, he could just call on the chidori at his foot, but of course that would be ridiculous, right (LOL :D). So the chakra works differently.

Hope I'm making sense. :o

I doubt it. I would assume it could only effect the vision if the chakra ports going through there got damaged. If you said that, I apologize. I didn't feel like reading your entire post.
yeh it was kinda like what i was saying, part of it (and don't worry bout not reading the whole thing, its kinda my fault for not putting enuff spacing ^^) but yeh my theory has flaws. although im still not totally convinced that it isn't plausible, for one thing, chidori is not used anywhere near as often as the sharingan, nor is it used in the same time frame (sharingan is used for a lengthier period) although u could argue that the reason chidori isn't used as much as sharingan is because both existing chidori users must use the sharingan with it, which means double the chakra usage (sorta like petrol XD)

but yeh what im saying is when frequently used would sharingan have that affect, i don't think comparing it with chidori is a very strong argument as both jutsu's are completely different and may apply the chakra in different ways(as Hitohori has put it very nicely), like i said, my theory has flaws, i just want to hear ppl out and see what pops up :D

That's quite a good theory there, Ero_Ni_Sama. You explained it very scientifically. :)



Well, not really. When they use the chidori, it doesn't really enlarge or enhance their hands, does it? I mean, it's quite a different analogy to compare hands and eyes. I mean, umm... how do I explain my thought...

Look at it this way. When somebody, let's say Sasuke, uses the Sharingan, he calls on chakra to his eyes so that he can see the chakra patterns of his opponent, copy his moves, etc. So the chakra directly works on his eyes. When Sasuke uses the Chidori, he gathers the chakra to his hand, true, but the chakra isn't there to improve (ok don't take this word literally) his hand; it is there as an extension to his hand. It's, like, attached to his hand so he can easily plunge it to his opponent's chest. In theory, he could just call on the chidori at his foot, but of course that would be ridiculous, right (LOL :D). So the chakra works differently.
Hope I'm making sense. :o

That was pretty clear how you explained it hotohori, makes my job easier to either collaborate with theories or disprove off the wall ones since your back, haven't seen you around these parts for a while you take a break.

That's quite a good theory there, Ero_Ni_Sama. You explained it very scientifically. :)



Well, not really. When they use the chidori, it doesn't really enlarge or enhance their hands, does it? I mean, it's quite a different analogy to compare hands and eyes. I mean, umm... how do I explain my thought...

Look at it this way. When somebody, let's say Sasuke, uses the Sharingan, he calls on chakra to his eyes so that he can see the chakra patterns of his opponent, copy his moves, etc. So the chakra directly works on his eyes. When Sasuke uses the Chidori, he gathers the chakra to his hand, true, but the chakra isn't there to improve (ok don't take this word literally) his hand; it is there as an extension to his hand. It's, like, attached to his hand so he can easily plunge it to his opponent's chest. In theory, he could just call on the chidori at his foot, but of course that would be ridiculous, right (LOL :D). So the chakra works differently.

Hope I'm making sense. :o
yeah,Chidori can't be used by foot because it'll need seals

i think hes gettin blind

all moves take sumthing out of u rather than giving sumthing back.i dont think any traits of a person improve by using such moves...even if their bloodline limits.sure they can improve on the jutsu but not on themselves through the move.

I don't think that it would effect his normal seeing vision unless his eyes physically got hurt...or he used Sharingan for too long. (WAY TOO LONG, USING OVER HIS LIMIT OF CHAKRA.)

Well, not really. When they use the chidori, it doesn't really enlarge or enhance their hands, does it? I mean, it's quite a different analogy to compare hands and eyes. I mean, umm... how do I explain my thought...

Look at it this way. When somebody, let's say Sasuke, uses the Sharingan, he calls on chakra to his eyes so that he can see the chakra patterns of his opponent, copy his moves, etc. So the chakra directly works on his eyes. When Sasuke uses the Chidori, he gathers the chakra to his hand, true, but the chakra isn't there to improve (ok don't take this word literally) his hand; it is there as an extension to his hand. It's, like, attached to his hand so he can easily plunge it to his opponent's chest.
Its really the exact same thing. All chakra is used for is to make something stronger. Ero Ni's reasoning was that the constant use of chakra would make the chakra veins around Uchia's eyes bigger and cuz its bigger more chakra would be able to flow through it, even when the sharingan wasnt activated and that would somehow make their eyesight better. Its the same with the chidori, it doesnt matter what the chakra is being used for aslong as its being used, the same chakra is still running through his veins in a similar way.

In theory, he could just call on the chidori at his foot, but of course that would be ridiculous, right (LOL :D). So the chakra works differently.

Hope I'm making sense. :o
lol, although its stupid, its still plausible but you'd need someone like a Hyuuga to do it. Its the same thing as that wallsticking thing they do only with a shitload of chakra. The only reason the chidori is on the hand is cuz its easier than anyother part of the body.