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#1 Bad Guy
09-09-2005, 10:58 AM
I read the raw with a seperate page of tanslations, not the best way to enjoy a chapter but, it was enjoyed none the less.


Alot of suprises in this chapter, well atleast alot to me. Finally we see the REAL end of the Sasori and Sakura fight, something I know alot of people have been waiting for. For me, the whole thing is just a very sad story, I like Sasori alot and leave it to Koshimoto to actualy make me feel a bit sorry for a very very bad man. Now that the whole fight is over, looking back on it I will say that Sasori was truly worthy of the Akatsuki reputation. If there are four more people like him lurking in a cave somewhere then Naruto and company are in for quite a battle. I cant wait to see the rest of the Organization. Speaking of "that organization", what about the great reward Sasori gave Sakura for defeating him? Who on earth could Sasori be talking about? All in all great chapter, one of my favorites by far. I think its safe to say some very shocking events are going to transpire in the comming chapters.

Last Page Text:

Sasori is down... Then the fight with Deidara, the other of the Akatsuki, to the climax!!
At this time, in Kakashi's left eye appears...!!?

Let the theories began as to what we see on the last page. I personaly have no clue, but you already know its going to own.

kidistight
09-09-2005, 11:36 AM
I read the raw with a seperate page of tanslations, not the best way to enjoy a chapter but, it was enjoyed none the less.


Alot of suprises in this chapter, well atleast alot to me. Finally we see the REAL end of the Sasori and Sakura fight, something I know alot of people have been waiting for. For me, the whole thing is just a very sad story, I like Sasori alot and leave it to Koshimoto to actualy make me feel a bit sorry for a very very bad man. Now that the whole fight is over, looking back on it I will say that Sasori was truly worthy of the Akatsuki reputation. If there are four more people like him lurking in a cave somewhere then Naruto and company are in for quite a battle. I cant wait to see the rest of the Organization. Speaking of "that organization", what about the great reward Sasori gave Sakura for defeating him? Who on earth could Sasori be talking about? All in all great chapter, one of my favorites by far. I think its safe to say some very shocking events are going to transpire in the comming chapters.

Last Page Text:

Sasori is down... Then the fight with Deidara, the other of the Akatsuki, to the climax!!
At this time, in Kakashi's left eye appears...!!?

Let the theories began as to what we see on the last page. I personaly have no clue, but you already know its going to own.
Just want to let you know that you probably don't want to post a thread regarding the chapter until you have read it because I find that the mods tend to close them. I know they have in the past unless the translated version is out they usually don't like topics created about the subject, I know they closed one of my threads because the translated version wasn't out yet and I talked about the manga chapter. Just a little fyi, but as of right now I am very disappointed with the chapter and many will see why soon enough.

julioc
09-09-2005, 01:05 PM
im with bad guy, these chapter got a lot of surprises, but the most exciting was that new sharingan kakashi pull out, i have no idea what this sharingan is, the only thing i can imagine is, another kind of sharingan, the sharingan users start with 2 dot in the eye, then increse to 3 (for best view and jutsus i think) and maybe this is the next fase of the sharingan. This is no Mangekyo sharingan, what is this sharingan? we will know sooner or latter, but this is my theory.

Dogoku
09-09-2005, 01:14 PM
The spy must be a known character and up until now we just thought that kabuto was the spy, but those where just speculations. I guess we'll find out soon

Thx Mr.Kishimoto Masashi for this great chapter. Cant w8 to see it traslated

P.S: Is there a spoiler tag in the forum?

dexlimp
09-09-2005, 01:17 PM
for me i think it's a mangekyo sharingan. maybe he is the one itachi is talking about when he assassinate the uchiha clan. when he told sasuke that if he can unlock it, there will be three of them that can use it. but i can't imagine or i can't believe that kakashi would kill his closest friend as what the mangekyo requirement is. well, it's just my own opinion.

Dogoku
09-09-2005, 01:23 PM
for me i think it's a mangekyo sharingan. maybe he is the one itachi is talking about when he assassinate the uchiha clan. when he told sasuke that if he can unlock it, there will be three of them that can use it. but i can't imagine or i can't believe that kakashi would kill his closest friend as what the mangekyo requirement is. well, it's just my own opinion.

Naah i doubt that itachi knew about kakashi's magenkyou at that time, since that conversation was very long ago.Also i f itachi knew about kakashi's power he wouldnt have confronted him so lightly the first time we've seen them fight. The leader of the akatsuki, i believe is the 3rd magenkyou user, since he does have sharingan and he is the only, other, survivor of the uchiha

Also that requirement was just itachi's requirement. I dont think that is the absolutely only way to get the mangekyou and that's what sasuke thinks too. And if that is the only way, well his closest friend is already dead, and he got his eye as well so that passes him :P

kidistight
09-09-2005, 03:08 PM
The spy must be a known character and up until now we just thought that kabuto was the spy, but those where just speculations. I guess we'll find out soon

Thx Mr.Kishimoto Masashi for this great chapter. Cant w8 to see it traslated

P.S: Is there a spoiler tag in the forum?
No there isn't a spoiler warning in this topic, also I think you are in the wrong thread because we aren't talking about Akatsuki in this thread or Kabuto being a spy.
Naah i doubt that itachi knew about kakashi's magenkyou at that time, since that conversation was very long ago.Also i f itachi knew about kakashi's power he wouldnt have confronted him so lightly the first time we've seen them fight. The leader of the akatsuki, i believe is the 3rd magenkyou user, since he does have sharingan and he is the only, other, survivor of the uchiha

Also that requirement was just itachi's requirement. I dont think that is the absolutely only way to get the mangekyou and that's what sasuke thinks too. And if that is the only way, well his closest friend is already dead, and he got his eye as well so that passes him :P
He took Kakashi lightly because Kakashi couldn't do anything against which is what we see in the fight one move and Kakashi was done.

Bird of Hentai
09-09-2005, 03:25 PM
I don't know about you but it was mentionned before that unlocking the magenkyo sharingan gives you access to 3 new jutsus...Itachi showed 2 of them, the black fire one and the kaleisdoscope one... maybe Kakashi is going to use the 3rd technique?

Walker
09-09-2005, 04:06 PM
It wont be the mangekyou or any atack we have seen yet, Because Kakashi wouldent have said 'He' Developed it if he didnt invent it. So I'm expecting some new high power atack or Defense. I am also guessing it will be better then Itachis 'sunflame' atack.. But not as powerfull as Itachi overall.

#1 Bad Guy
09-09-2005, 04:24 PM
whatever it is its not a mangekyo sharingan. It doesnt look like any "eye" we've seen before. Kakashi's new sharingan is probaly the reslut of what happens when you implant a sharingan from a uchia and put it into a non uchia blood line. I agree with Walker though, the technique he is about to unleash hasnt been seen before. Atleast not by us....

OG
09-09-2005, 07:57 PM
i agree with #1 bad guy cause of how you could get the mangekyo(SP) eye only it with the quailifications, with the blood and kiling closest friend...

nma
09-09-2005, 10:07 PM
No there isn't a spoiler warning in this topic, also I think you are in the wrong thread because we aren't talking about Akatsuki in this thread or Kabuto being a spy.
He/she is talking about the chapter.Heres (http://hem.bredband.net/noiz/275.rar) a link to a scanlated version for those who havent seen it yet.

I think that it is the mangekyou, what else could it be. We've only seen Itachi's mangekyou, whose to say that they all look the same? Another reason why it looks different could be because Kakashi isnt an Uchiha. Either way though, Kakashi is the shit:cool:.

Dogoku
09-10-2005, 01:19 AM
i agree with #1 bad guy cause of how you could get the mangekyo(SP) eye only it with the quailifications, with the blood and kiling closest friend...

Well that's how itachi did it. It doesnt mean that's the only way. Sasuke said was gonna find a different way

Thx nma! I was looking for that. Well that sharingan is definetely not magenkyou
It seemed more like an incomplete mangekyou or a modified one

Heh nice reasoning there enma. Maybe all mangekyou are different

dexlimp
09-10-2005, 08:03 AM
hmmm....don't you guys think that kakashi's new sharingan is not written in the scroll or book of the uchihas, in their hidden meeting place? i think all types of sharingan are written there, and all i know is that the mangekyou sharingan is the last type, which is the most powerful.

@nma
yeah you have a point that it look different coz kakashi is not an uchiha. and maybe kakashi has a new unique technique using it.

i still believe it is a mangekyou type of sharingan (for now). buy maybe im wrong, later we will find out what it is, or maybe kakashi will name it by himself hehe..

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-10-2005, 08:55 AM
if it's not mangekyou sharingan then i think itachi's the one who should be the leader

nma
09-10-2005, 09:10 AM
if it's not mangekyou sharingan then i think itachi's the one who should be the leader
The leader of what?

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-10-2005, 09:12 AM
Akatsuki of course

kidistight
09-10-2005, 09:24 AM
if it's not mangekyou sharingan then i think itachi's the one who should be the leader
Why do you say that, seems like Kakashi might have found something better than Itachi's sharingan, I don't know what it is called, but there could be a sharingan that you get from being good. The title of the next chapter is the true heir of the uchiha, Itachi's sharingan can be an incomplete jutsu, while Kakahi's new sharingan can actually be the mangekyou sharingan. I am sure Itachi knows a lot about the sharingan but who is to say he knows everything, there could be things that weren't written down or passed on for those that really want to improve that they make up there own jutsu. Really I don't care what it is I want to see it in action and I want to see what kind of training Kakashi went through to get it.

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-10-2005, 09:27 AM
yeah, i wonder how much is kakashi's power now.may be some white fire?(amaterasu)

KyoichiKanami
09-10-2005, 12:42 PM
I posted a theory topic on another forum (I may put it here sometime). It said that if your mind is admantly convinced that you in one way or another killed your friend for the Mangekyou, it will happen. Perhaps Kakashi found a way to convince himself of the thought Obito's Death was his own fault. By these means, perhaps he made an "alternate" Mangekyo Sharingan. However, that's just me.

Dogoku
09-10-2005, 01:27 PM
Perhaps, y not

julioc
09-10-2005, 01:31 PM
I posted a theory topic on another forum (I may put it here sometime). It said that if your mind is admantly convinced that you in one way or another killed your friend for the Mangekyou, it will happen. Perhaps Kakashi found a way to convince himself of the thought Obito's Death was his own fault. By these means, perhaps he made an "alternate" Mangekyo Sharingan. However, that's just me.


thats a good one, because the feeling must be the same.

There must be a way to unlock the mangekyo without killing your best friend or there must be another kind of sharingan powerfull enough to beat the mangekyo, i dont think sasuke is going to kill naruto so he can activate the mangekyo (he has his chance and didnt do it), there must be another kind of sharingan and maybe we are seeing the begining of that.

Bird of Hentai
09-10-2005, 02:19 PM
Kakashi is a genius and he is far from being stupid remember what he said:
I trained myself to use a technique that can counter Magenkyo sharingan one hit one win technique of Itachi. He saw the technique and he knows how terrible the technique is. Now people saying but it can't be as powerful magenkyo, sure he won't be as powerful but remember if Kakashi said that the technique could counter magenkyo... it is probably quite powerful.

#1 Bad Guy
09-10-2005, 02:59 PM
Whats all this Magenkyo sharingan talk......its clear its not a Magenkyo sharingan, I mean....LOOK at it!........Does it look the same as Itachis Sharingan?.........no it doesnt, its different. Magenkyo sharingan is cool but there is clearly somethng else, now the question is what exactly is it.

Kakashi does not have a sharingan from Itachi and Sasuke's family, he has a sharingan from Obitos family wich has evolved into an entirely different shringan and not a Magenkyo. Since Itachi and Sasuke are from the same family thier sharingan might evolve into the Magenkyo sharingan through killing and malice. The sharingan that is it Kakashi's eye probaly changes based on some other requirements, thus it is a whole new kind of sharingan. I believe that each indivisual family within the Uchiha had different sharingans and they all have different requirements to achieve the levels of that sharingan. Magenkyo might be the most powerful sharingan but its not the only sharingan.

Rath
09-10-2005, 04:08 PM
I was reading the chapter yesterday, and today I read the topic...after what you guys mentioned i quickly clicked back to the manga and realized kakashi's different sharingan passed me by the first time I read..........I dunno what the new sharingan means, but I sure do wanna find out n_n

k-strife
09-10-2005, 04:18 PM
wow yeah i missed his sharingan too.

Hmm but i thought of this, you know how the Hyuuga clan has the main branch and then sub-branches and stuff?? How the main branch is generally the strongest etc...

Maybe the Uchiha works in the same way, and Obito's family was actually the "Main Branch" of the Uchiha clan, thus the title "True Heir of the Uchihas". So it could result with him having a stronger/different sharingan?? I don't know, just theory :P

Rath
09-10-2005, 04:22 PM
That sounds the most promising for me out of all the theories, the shringan is porbably different from Itachi's because of the different branches or groups of uchiha's that existed. Each group has their own difference in levels of sharingan.

kidistight
09-10-2005, 07:06 PM
I posted a theory topic on another forum (I may put it here sometime). It said that if your mind is admantly convinced that you in one way or another killed your friend for the Mangekyou, it will happen. Perhaps Kakashi found a way to convince himself of the thought Obito's Death was his own fault. By these means, perhaps he made an "alternate" Mangekyo Sharingan. However, that's just me.
What makes you think he wants to think that he is the one that killed Obito, also how do we know that he is aware that is the only way to get the mangekyou.
Kakashi is a genius and he is far from being stupid remember what he said:
I trained myself to use a technique that can counter Magenkyo sharingan one hit one win technique of Itachi. He saw the technique and he knows how terrible the technique is. Now people saying but it can't be as powerful magenkyo, sure he won't be as powerful but remember if Kakashi said that the technique could counter magenkyo... it is probably quite powerful.
When did he say all that, I remember him talking about Itachi's eyesight but I don't recall him saying that he found a way to use his sharingan to counter it. I am sure he did come up with a way but we have yet to know how or anything else about that eventual meeting.
Whats all this Magenkyo sharingan talk......its clear its not a Magenkyo sharingan, I mean....LOOK at it!........Does it look the same as Itachis Sharingan?.........no it doesnt, its different. Magenkyo sharingan is cool but there is clearly somethng else, now the question is what exactly is it.

Kakashi does not have a sharingan from Itachi and Sasuke's family, he has a sharingan from Obitos family wich has evolved into an entirely different shringan and not a Magenkyo. Since Itachi and Sasuke are from the same family thier sharingan might evolve into the Magenkyo sharingan through killing and malice. The sharingan that is it Kakashi's eye probaly changes based on some other requirements, thus it is a whole new kind of sharingan. I believe that each indivisual family within the Uchiha had different sharingans and they all have different requirements to achieve the levels of that sharingan. Magenkyo might be the most powerful sharingan but its not the only sharingan.
I'm not really putting much faith in this alternate sharingan from another family thought, but I do think there are more doujutsus than Itachi is aware of regarding the sharingan.
wow yeah i missed his sharingan too.
Hmm but i thought of this, you know how the Hyuuga clan has the main branch and then sub-branches and stuff?? How the main branch is generally the strongest etc...
Maybe the Uchiha works in the same way, and Obito's family was actually the "Main Branch" of the Uchiha clan, thus the title "True Heir of the Uchihas". So it could result with him having a stronger/different sharingan?? I don't know, just theory :P
That theory shows the most promise from what I have heard/read yet in this thread. It would be cool if Kakashi was the true heir of the sharingan then it would really make Sasuke look stupid for leaving the village to go be with Oro when you had a great teacher already. I am sure all those Sasuke haters would take that as the last laugh for him being himself really, arrogant, big headed, stubborn...

dexlimp
09-10-2005, 10:06 PM
wow yeah i missed his sharingan too.

Hmm but i thought of this, you know how the Hyuuga clan has the main branch and then sub-branches and stuff?? How the main branch is generally the strongest etc...

Maybe the Uchiha works in the same way, and Obito's family was actually the "Main Branch" of the Uchiha clan, thus the title "True Heir of the Uchihas". So it could result with him having a stronger/different sharingan?? I don't know, just theory :P

hmmm nice theory but i still doubt it, coz if the uchiha works the same way as the hyuuga, having main and branch family, then why does the main family of the uchiha couldn't stop itachi being a member of a branch family for killing the entire clan? unlike the hyuuga, they have a seal or something that is put into the forehead of the branch family in order for them to be sure that the branch family will not betray tha main family. and if it's a different sharingan, i think itachi didn't know it, or even if he knows it, he would have killed kakashi when he has the chance if he knows it is powerful than his mangekyuo sharingan..

Southern Nomad
09-10-2005, 10:25 PM
Obito is not so different from Itachi and Sasuke, or at least in my opinion. Like how Hinata and Neji are cousins from the same clan, Obito, Itachi and Sasuke must be related, even if its remotely. they might be, like, distant cousins or an uncle-in-law, or something like that.

I wonder who the spy in the Sound Village is that's working for Sasori...

kidistight
09-10-2005, 10:59 PM
hmmm nice theory but i still doubt it, coz if the uchiha works the same way as the hyuuga, having main and branch family, then why does the main family of the uchiha couldn't stop itachi being a member of a branch family for killing the entire clan? unlike the hyuuga, they have a seal or something that is put into the forehead of the branch family in order for them to be sure that the branch family will not betray tha main family. and if it's a different sharingan, i think itachi didn't know it, or even if he knows it, he would have killed kakashi when he has the chance if he knows it is powerful than his mangekyuo sharingan..
Just because they don't have a seal or something to stop a member doesn't mean it isn't possible, besides there weren't many people that saw there attacker when it was happening, I believe the only person who saw there killers face were Itachi's parents everyone else it happened in a blink of an eye for them. I think we all might be giving Itachi to much credit, Itachi does not know everything regarding the Sharingan. He knows a lot about it but he is not the creator there are things he doesn't know about that, that have yet to be revealed to him through time and hard work training. I get the feeling that Itachi is training to be good but I don't any of them are training to get better and stronger.
Obito is not so different from Itachi and Sasuke, or at least in my opinion. Like how Hinata and Neji are cousins from the same clan, Obito, Itachi and Sasuke must be related, even if its remotely. they might be, like, distant cousins or an uncle-in-law, or something like that.

I wonder who the spy in the Sound Village is that's working for Sasori...
I mean they have to all be related since it is the Uchiha clan, there has to be a blood relative connected between two people somewhere in the families. I also wonder who it is and I wonder why they are working for Sasori, also this still doesn't state how Jiraiya is getting his information on both groups.

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-11-2005, 03:57 AM
maybe he got information from orochimaru

dexlimp
09-11-2005, 02:25 PM
Just because they don't have a seal or something to stop a member doesn't mean it isn't possible, besides there weren't many people that saw there attacker when it was happening, I believe the only person who saw there killers face were Itachi's parents everyone else it happened in a blink of an eye for them. I think we all might be giving Itachi to much credit, Itachi does not know everything regarding the Sharingan. He knows a lot about it but he is not the creator there are things he doesn't know about that, that have yet to be revealed to him through time and hard work training. I get the feeling that Itachi is training to be good but I don't any of them are training to get better and stronger.

well, i still don't believe that uchiha has a branch and main family, coz it's not written in the manga. and itachi is the strongest as what his father said that he is their link to the village, and he said even himself couldn't stop him.

for me i think kakashi's new sharingan is the same as itachi, the mangekyuo, but maybe on different levels. maybe the mangekyuo form depends on the user, maybe the form on itachi's mangekyuo is because he use it for bad, hatred and killing. while kakashi's form of sharingan is because he use it for good, and protecting his comrades. or maybe, there are several other requirements on unlocking the mangekyuo, not just one, and many form depending on how the requirements met, killing the closest friend maybe one of the requirements and the result is itachi's mangekyuo form and for kakashi is that he perform another requirements that's why he receives that form. well, that's for me..peace!!

k-strife
09-11-2005, 08:51 PM
well, i still don't believe that uchiha has a branch and main family, coz it's not written in the manga. and itachi is the strongest as what his father said that he is their link to the village, and he said even himself couldn't stop him.

for me i think kakashi's new sharingan is the same as itachi, the mangekyuo, but maybe on different levels. maybe the mangekyuo form depends on the user, maybe the form on itachi's mangekyuo is because he use it for bad, hatred and killing. while kakashi's form of sharingan is because he use it for good, and protecting his comrades. or maybe, there are several other requirements on unlocking the mangekyuo, not just one, and many form depending on how the requirements met, killing the closest friend maybe one of the requirements and the result is itachi's mangekyuo form and for kakashi is that he perform another requirements that's why he receives that form. well, that's for me..peace!!

Well you see i'll try to help clarify my perspective. The Sharingan was supposedly supposed to be an "evolved" form of the byakugan right?? Well I think that some time ago when the two clans split from each other, the Uchiha clan formed their own new rules and orders and that they would no longer use the "slave" mark such as the hyuugas did. If you remember, the hyuuga sub-branches were not "born" with the mark, it was put on them.

Anyways from that, I think that the Uchihas still had a a main branch and sub-branches but that it was just not as obvious anymore since they had abandoned the old ways. Although you're right that it's not "specifically" written in the manga, the title for the next chapter is "True Heir of the Uchihas" (even if it is scanlated) gives us plenty of reason to believe that their is a Heirarchy within the Uchiha clan (Branches,Sub-Branches). Now from that, we see that Kakashi has unlocked his sharingan and him being the last person, we can kind of piece together that it will be about him.

So from that, we can kind of guess that Obito may have been part of the main branch from the Uchiha clan and thus his sharingan may have been different from those of the sub-branches. You also mentioned in ur other post that if they were from the main branch why couldn't they stop Itachi. Well simply, my answer is that it does not matter what branch you were born from, if you are a genius, then you just are. Neji, although he was not born from the main branch was considered a genius. That is why I believe that Itachi is a genius, even though he may be from a sub branch. And if he is a genius, it wont matter if he's not from the main branch, he will be extremely skilled. That is the reason why i think they couldn't stop him.

The problem with your theory is that you say that it is the Mangekyou. Well Itachi says that as a "requirement (meaning you have to do it)" you're supposed to kill your best friend. But then you also mention that if you do good or bad, it will determine the difference in the sharingan. The problem i see with that, is that IF you kill your best friend, i do not see how in any way that can be considered good.

Anyways this post is long :P im gonna stop here haha.. might have left out a few things but yeah, that's my 2 cents.

Matonly1T
09-11-2005, 09:30 PM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Matonly1T/Kakashi.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Matonly1T/Itachi.png

see though similar kakashis cooler lol XD

kidistight
09-12-2005, 08:15 AM
well, i still don't believe that uchiha has a branch and main family, coz it's not written in the manga. and itachi is the strongest as what his father said that he is their link to the village, and he said even himself couldn't stop him.

for me i think kakashi's new sharingan is the same as itachi, the mangekyuo, but maybe on different levels. maybe the mangekyuo form depends on the user, maybe the form on itachi's mangekyuo is because he use it for bad, hatred and killing. while kakashi's form of sharingan is because he use it for good, and protecting his comrades. or maybe, there are several other requirements on unlocking the mangekyuo, not just one, and many form depending on how the requirements met, killing the closest friend maybe one of the requirements and the result is itachi's mangekyuo form and for kakashi is that he perform another requirements that's why he receives that form. well, that's for me..peace!!
So the manga is law if it isn't written in the manga then it doesn't exist, so basically the current arc in the anime doesn't exist because it isn't the manga. I mean that is what your saying because they didn't state that there was a branch family or main family then it doesn't exist. In that case I have only seen 9/10 members in the Akatsuki organization but since it was written down anywhere in the manga there is 14 of them. Neji already has the potential to be the strongest memeber in the whole family and he is in the branch family.
see though similar kakashis cooler lol XD
Yeah Kakashi's is a lot cooler I like the after trail in his as well, heck I would like it if my eye could do anything like the sharingan and rotate in my eyeball like that.

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-12-2005, 08:23 AM
Deidara...will he be beaten in chapter 276?

kidistight
09-12-2005, 09:28 AM
Deidara...will he be beaten in chapter 276?
I don't think so I doubt she is as weak as we think she is, I think that her trump card or cards will put Kakashi and Naruto in a bad place in the following chapters. Even if Deidra is beaten quickly, that only makes one person weaker than Itachi, because Sasori deffinitely isn't weaker.

CantQuiteGuess
09-12-2005, 09:37 AM
[QUOTE=kidistight]So the manga is law if it isn't written in the manga then it doesn't exist.

Well if it's not written in manga, then it's undecided. The manga is the story though, the current anime arc isn't, it's just filler created by the people doing the anime.

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-12-2005, 09:42 AM
I don't think so I doubt she is as weak as we think she is, I think that her trump card or cards will put Kakashi and Naruto in a bad place in the following chapters. Even if Deidra is beaten quickly, that only makes one person weaker than Itachi, because Sasori deffinitely isn't weaker.
i think Kisame is weaker than Itachi too.

btw,who is white fang?

kidistight
09-12-2005, 09:48 AM
[QUOTE=kidistight]So the manga is law if it isn't written in the manga then it doesn't exist.

Well if it's not written in manga, then it's undecided. The manga is the story though, the current anime arc isn't, it's just filler created by the people doing the anime.
No they both make up the story of Naruto the anime and the manga combined.
i think Kisame is weaker than Itachi too.
btw,who is white fang?
Possibly if not the same, I think those two are more along the lines of Gai and Kakashi in that they both know a lot but in a best 3 out of 5 fight that either one would win. White Fang is the nickname of Kakashi's dad, from what I hear Kakashi is the spitting image of him.

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-12-2005, 09:55 AM
No it all is the story you have to combine the two to form one thing.
it sure is a clear explanation

Matonly1T
09-12-2005, 10:08 AM
Deidara...will he be beaten in chapter 276?

doubtful considering how long sakuras fight was lol

Phlemingo
09-12-2005, 10:10 AM
I have learnt to distrust the "NExT WeEk!!1?! THe FIERce CONCLUSiosN!?!?!?!??!!!!!11/"...

Sigh.

Dogoku
09-12-2005, 11:07 AM
I don't think so I doubt she is as weak as we think she is, I think that her trump card or cards will put Kakashi and Naruto in a bad place in the following chapters. Even if Deidra is beaten quickly, that only makes one person weaker than Itachi, because Sasori deffinitely isn't weaker.

Let's not forget who is the #1 ninja in suprising people though. Even if naruto is down he'll just stand up again. And also we dont know what else new he has learnt and how strong he has become. I WANNA SEE A NEW JUTSU (again :p)

I agree with Matonly1T, this should take long

Smeeeeee
09-12-2005, 12:27 PM
kisame is weaker than itachi. he just has more chakra. kakashi will prolly use that new attack he worked on in the 2.5 years that were past. iduno what that new sharingan is

kidistight
09-12-2005, 02:43 PM
it sure is a clear explanation
Yeah and your follow-up statement was just as clear, next time you might want to think about the readers when you type something out. "That sure was a clear explanation," would have sound a lot better.

Akatsuki Shinobi
09-12-2005, 05:52 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/raptor23/19.jpg

too cool!!!

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-12-2005, 09:43 PM
Itachi's one is better

gaaramaster
09-12-2005, 09:51 PM
Ummm...has anyone found out what kakashi's new sharingan is?

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-13-2005, 08:07 AM
Yeah and your follow-up statement was just as clear, next time you might want to think about the readers when you type something out. "That sure was a clear explanation," would have sound a lot better.
kk,don't mind such a boring sentence

Gaaramaster - Mangekyou Sharingan(another version)

kidistight
09-13-2005, 09:03 AM
kk,don't mind such a boring sentence

Gaaramaster - Mangekyou Sharingan(another version)
Was that supposed to read don't "make" such a boring sentence.

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-13-2005, 09:11 AM
Was that supposed to read don't "make" such a boring sentence.
i mean MINE lol

#1 Bad Guy
09-13-2005, 11:34 PM
Ummm...has anyone found out what kakashi's new sharingan is?

No no one has. There is nothing that has told us for a fact that it is Mangekyou sharingan or a version of it, or anything else. People just keep saying its Mangekyou this and that beacuse its a new sharingan. The sharingan itself was revealed on the last page of the manga and it didnt say what it was at all, so we dont know what it is. We have alot of THEORIES as to what it is, but we dont know for sure.

Fierce
09-14-2005, 03:05 PM
Since I can interpret japanese....I'll just let my mind wander until it's translated.

anbunaruto
09-14-2005, 04:32 PM
well ill stick my 2 sense in i think it is something like mangekyou, but not aspowerful for 2 reasons, one he only has one sharingan eye and 2 he didnt kill a best friend to get the real mangekyou if turns out tha it is in fact mangekyou, but then again we will find out prolly this friday or weekend wut exactly it is

anbunaruto
09-14-2005, 04:39 PM
o and i have a ? for u guys......way back wen the akatsuki were stealing gaara's demon did anyone notice a second person besides Itachi with sharingan ??????????? me and my friend d/led the manga zoomed way in and saw itachi off in the background and the guy in the foreground had sharingan

#1 Bad Guy
09-14-2005, 05:41 PM
o and i have a ? for u guys......way back wen the akatsuki were stealing gaara's demon did anyone notice a second person besides Itachi with sharingan ??????????? me and my friend d/led the manga zoomed way in and saw itachi off in the background and the guy in the foreground had sharingan

First off, what chapter and what page did you see this? And im going to go out a limb and say no, there was no one else that has a sharingan. Unless you are talking about the Leader who SOME people have seen a sharingan in, i have no idea what you are referring to.

But If you realy want to get to the bottom of this then post up the pic, and let us all take a look becuase we dont know what you are talking about by just reading your post.

Akatsuki Shinobi
09-14-2005, 05:57 PM
where?

anbunaruto
09-14-2005, 08:23 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b333/anbunaruto/naruto_p02.jpg

to the left is itachi and this is a diff manga tha i d/led than the one i saw it in much worse quality but i blew it up a bit, but i digress the guy on the right is the leader and he's got the whole sharingan thing goin on, in the original one i saw u cud deff tell he had sharingan ill post another pic where hes standin looking at u and u can see it a lil more, oh and for u people who doubt i kno wut ur gunna say o well tha cud be anything blah blah tha doesnt prove shit i kno wut i saw in tha manga page and look at itachi's left eye it looks almost the same cuz its all f'd up

Akatsuki Shinobi
09-14-2005, 08:25 PM
???...........ok?..........

anbunaruto
09-14-2005, 08:44 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b333/anbunaruto/akatsuki1.jpg

this is the pic i wus talking about posting u can see tha in each eye he has 3 much larger dots than the others, i wud have increased the size but it gets way to distorted

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-14-2005, 09:03 PM
it's not too clear

Akatsuki Shinobi
09-14-2005, 09:05 PM
clear........

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-14-2005, 09:08 PM
What?i don't see the dots

#1 Bad Guy
09-14-2005, 09:15 PM
Seen it......thats no sharingan lol. And you shuld have posted this in the Akatsuki Info thread cuz this is for CHAPTER 275. Plus you can see the exact same thing your posting now in the Akatsuki Info Thread also. Anyways......

We have recently discoverd that mysterious photoshop shinobi have been drawing "sharingan-type" designs in some Naruto mangas, mainly in the Akatsuki laeders eye. I cant realy tell if the pic you got is one of those fake pages but In the real manga pages you cant even see a "clear" sharingan in the lader's eyes like you can see in Itachi's.

not to rain on your parade but Im just doing my best to keep the assumptions seperated from the facts on these boards. somebody has 2

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-14-2005, 09:19 PM
i think they will make chapter 276 one?

anbunaruto
09-14-2005, 09:42 PM
ur not reigning on my parade i wus asking just to clear it up and i didnt kno there wus an akatsuki one i just made this thing today, but reguardless i do think he is a uchiha cuz itachi once said (if u want these eyes u wud b one of three tha cud have them) or sumthin to tha affect lol and i dont think he wus talking bout kakashi
and tha wus my point tha related to this forum

Fierce
09-14-2005, 10:09 PM
Hmm...

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-14-2005, 11:01 PM
ur not reigning on my parade i wus asking just to clear it up and i didnt kno there wus an akatsuki one i just made this thing today, but reguardless i do think he is a uchiha cuz itachi once said (if u want these eyes u wud b one of three tha cud have them) or sumthin to tha affect lol and i dont think he wus talking bout kakashi
and tha wus my point tha related to this forum
lol ur words are weird

Fierce
09-15-2005, 12:26 AM
My head hurts...

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-15-2005, 07:47 AM
My head hurts...
no connection to the topic

kidistight
09-15-2005, 10:04 AM
Seen it......thats no sharingan lol. And you shuld have posted this in the Akatsuki Info thread cuz this is for CHAPTER 275. Plus you can see the exact same thing your posting now in the Akatsuki Info Thread also. Anyways......

We have recently discoverd that mysterious photoshop shinobi have been drawing "sharingan-type" designs in some Naruto mangas, mainly in the Akatsuki laeders eye. I cant realy tell if the pic you got is one of those fake pages but In the real manga pages you cant even see a "clear" sharingan in the lader's eyes like you can see in Itachi's.

not to rain on your parade but Im just doing my best to keep the assumptions seperated from the facts on these boards. somebody has 2
Thanks for the good work because there are a lot of false information being passed around on these boards and not enough facts to dispute these off the wall theories.
i think they will make chapter 276 one?
Make one what?

Mr. Papaya
09-15-2005, 01:44 PM
Well, you get the mangekyou by killing your best friend. And dying for your best friend is the opposite of that. But if you die for your best friend, you can't get a new Sharingan since you're dead. But since Obito gave Kakashi his eye, maybe it gained the power you get from dying for your best friend.

julioc
09-15-2005, 02:20 PM
Well, you get the mangekyou by killing your best friend. And dying for your best friend is the opposite of that. But if you die for your best friend, you can't get a new Sharingan since you're dead. But since Obito gave Kakashi his eye, maybe it gained the power you get from dying for your best friend.


Obito gave his life to Kakashi and pull out that sharingan? and now kakashi have it? thats not so crazy, it could happen. but why until now? if thats true, kakashi would pull that sharingan before to fight other guy (sabuza, itachi, orochimaru) and not the sharingan he used.

anbunaruto
09-15-2005, 03:11 PM
Obito gave his life to Kakashi and pull out that sharingan? and now kakashi have it? thats not so crazy, it could happen. but why until now? if thats true, kakashi would pull that sharingan before to fight other guy (sabuza, itachi, orochimaru) and not the sharingan he used.

lol u spelled it wrong but since the z is right there prolly a mistake lol umm yeah i agree with the idea tha he cud have gotten it from obito given up his life for him but the diff shape, theres only one of two possibilities, its diff cuz he didnt kill his best friend and instead his friend gave up his life OR becuz of the fact he only has one

kidistight
09-15-2005, 06:46 PM
Well, you get the mangekyou by killing your best friend. And dying for your best friend is the opposite of that. But if you die for your best friend, you can't get a new Sharingan since you're dead. But since Obito gave Kakashi his eye, maybe it gained the power you get from dying for your best friend.
That is a crazy long shot theory you got there, in fact you might want to go ahead and not try to push that theory anymore.
lol u spelled it wrong but since the z is right there prolly a mistake lol umm yeah i agree with the idea tha he cud have gotten it from obito given up his life for him but the diff shape, theres only one of two possibilities, its diff cuz he didnt kill his best friend and instead his friend gave up his life OR becuz of the fact he only has one
You mean he mispelled "Zabuza".

Fierce
09-15-2005, 07:04 PM
275 is lame. I want Naruto and Kakashi to fight already.

anbunaruto
09-15-2005, 09:19 PM
You mean he mispelled "Zabuza".

yeah lol i forgot to write it out i got ahead of myself

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-15-2005, 09:23 PM
Puppet show is not attractive

anbunaruto
09-15-2005, 09:25 PM
lol puppet show hahahaha haha yeah i thought the fight wus good but i kinda expected more from sasori cant wait to see naruto and kakashi tho i wanna c wut naruto has learned

#1 Bad Guy
09-15-2005, 09:35 PM
lol puppet show hahahaha haha yeah i thought the fight wus good but i kinda expected more from sasori cant wait to see naruto and kakashi tho i wanna c wut naruto has learned

What more did you expect? Dude whipped out 100 puppets. He had a puppet of a Kage and on top of all that.......Sasori was a puppet. It was a puppet war, thats what I expected. Besides did you really want to see more puppets? lol

Khari
09-15-2005, 10:02 PM
No I want hem to die or maybe live so akatsukis numbers stay up. maybe that would be good to have a new reicruit though

Fierce
09-15-2005, 10:17 PM
Puppets are teh nubs.

kidistight
09-15-2005, 10:22 PM
Puppet show is not attractive
LMAO yeah that is pretty funny that you called it a puppet show, like we are watching Mr. Rogers or something.
No I want hem to die or maybe live so akatsukis numbers stay up. maybe that would be good to have a new reicruit though
I guess if they had a new recruit now would deffinitely be the time to bring him or her in and have her show her skills, becuse Akatsuki is right in the middle of somethng important and don't need to be disturbed.

Bird of Hentai
09-15-2005, 11:42 PM
276 spoiler...:

Kakashi has magenkyo

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1522/narutoch276crappyraws9lj.jpg

brbailey
09-16-2005, 02:58 AM
It's not the magenkyo. It's probably the third form of the sharingan. With one of Sasukes flashbacks he askes his father if there were other forms of the sharingan and he talks about 3 forms but the last two need special conditions. This might be the third form since we haven't heard anything else about it.

Extrusion`Neji
09-16-2005, 07:26 AM
kakashi sharingan doesnt seems like mangekyou....brbailey maybe right...lvl 3 sharingan...n his sharingan is sumhow straight !!! not sure....he surely will imporve alot...he may not posses any skills like ameterasu or tsukiyomi....but i thk he will gain speed n strength...considering sharingan can "slow down" enemy muvment....juz like when naruto n sasuke fight....sasuke can see naruto muvment after 3rd dot....but not b4...n naruto probably will be strong....juz eager to watch the result of training under jiraiya..

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-16-2005, 10:27 AM
isn't lv3 sharingan = mangekyou?

kidistight
09-16-2005, 10:30 AM
isn't lv3 sharingan = mangekyou?
Yes and the new sharingan Kakashi is using is just that a mangekyou maybe a different variation of it.

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-16-2005, 10:37 AM
maybe "good" one

Akatsuki Shinobi
09-16-2005, 10:46 AM
we will see when it comes!!!!!!

-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-16-2005, 10:49 AM
no we discuss nonsenses first

Akatsuki Shinobi
09-16-2005, 10:49 AM
OK then!!!!!!!!!

kidistight
09-16-2005, 10:53 AM
we will see when it comes!!!!!!
I just read chapter 276 and it is called that you can either go read my write up on it or just wait and read the chapter for yourself.

Fierce
09-16-2005, 12:01 PM
I don't think it's a "Good or Evil Mangekyou Sharingan" it's probably just an earlier, weaker stage of it. Or possibly because Kakashi attained it a different way, it comes with different techniques than Itachi's like Tsukiyomi and stuff.

godzilla-j
09-20-2005, 03:24 PM
i think kakashi found a special way to get the eyes

Akatsuki Shinobi
09-20-2005, 04:45 PM
could be!!!!!

Akatsuki Shinobi
09-20-2005, 04:46 PM
100th!!!!!!!!!!!

narutorokks
09-21-2005, 11:19 AM
naa.he must have looked up some scrolls from the uchiha.but that ceratinly adds extra baggage to his arsenal.