View Full Version : Who can beat orachimaru??
narutorokks
09-19-2005, 03:47 PM
well...3rd failed to.Even tsunade and jiraiya 2gether could not finish off orachimaru and he escaped.He has the immortality technique.He seems to know the most types of jutsu.And now with kabuto already there and sasuke by his side ...he is practically invincible.Is there any1 who can kill orachimaru off???
anbunaruto
09-19-2005, 03:59 PM
well one ur wrong tsunade could have killed him but he ran away 2 jiraiya could have but he wus weak from the stupid bullshit drink tsunade gave him, yeah i deff think jiraiya one on one cud beat him and same with tsunade if he doesnt run like a bitch.
the_fat_alchemist
09-19-2005, 04:51 PM
i can defeat ol snakey haha
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-19-2005, 09:29 PM
Akatsuki can defeat him
Mr. Papaya
09-19-2005, 10:28 PM
Most of the Akatsuki members(I doubt Deidara could), probably Jiraiya. I don't think Tsunade could since she would have to hit him. Kakashi probably could since he apparently has the Mangekyou, and we don't know exactly how strong Naruto and Sasuke are post time jump.
#1 Bad Guy
09-20-2005, 05:39 AM
We honestly dont do not know the true strength of Orochimaru and how much he has changed in the time skip. He has a new container and god knows what else he has learned since the time we saw him fight. Unlike the other two Sanin Orochimaru is always learning new Jutsu, dude still does his crazy experiments and body take overs so we dont know what he can do now. The first time anyone had seen Orochimaru since his departure from the leaf, during the chuunin exams, he had perfected his Soul stealing Jutsu and the forbidden Edo Tensei. I can only imagine what he will have up his sleeve the next time we see him pop up in the manga.
I havnt seen any one in Akatsuki that can beat him yet, not alone alteast. We know Itachi is stronger than him and he is probaly the only person that can take on Oro one on one. Akatsuki is going to gang up on him if they finally do meet, that was their plan all along anyways, but obviously all of them wont make it to meet Orochimaru so I doubt that plan will work out. Orochimaru knows Akatsuki is planning of comming after him and I think that is another reason he wanted Sasuke so bad so he could have an Uchia in his corner, in particular, the same uchia that has been preparing most of his whole life to kill the very man that would cause the most problems to Orochimaru (Itachi).
It seems that everyone has it out for Orochimaru in the Manga now, especialy Akatsuki with Sasori's spy and everything they got going on but there is a reason we haven't seen Sasuke or Orochimaru or any sound village activity in the manga, I think thats where alot of suprises are going to come form when Orochimaru finaly re-emerges. He will not be alone and Sasuke will not be the only person fighting beside him.
blazin yukasho
09-20-2005, 06:06 AM
i think the 3rd would of deffinitly beaten him if he wasent soooo old, he could of easily killed him if he was younger, i think both tsunade and jiriyia could take him but oro ran away and he had kabuto's back up, akatsuki could beat him, im not so sure about kakshi though, after all he did shit himself wen oro turned up at the chuunin exam...
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-20-2005, 07:25 AM
Of course Akatsuki can beat him,easily
narutorokks
09-20-2005, 12:17 PM
akatsuki mentioned that they could beat him if they gang up on him.but with sasori dead and deidara also looking like he/she will die soon,i hardly think that akatsuki can beat him.itachi might have posed a threat but now orachimaru has a answer to him with sasuke to counter itachi.and i dont think that naruto even with the kyuubi could reach orachimaru's level.
and pleazz....kakashi's no match for orachimaru.even though he has mangekyou..debatable....v saw in the forest during chuunin exam the devastating genjutsu that ora pulled on sasuke and sakura.
godzilla-j
09-20-2005, 03:21 PM
most of the akatasuki can wipe him out...
Tactical Thinking
09-20-2005, 03:23 PM
I'm sure Jiraiya or Tsunade could beat Orochimaru. I'm sure a few Akatsuki people could too.
narutorokks
09-20-2005, 03:40 PM
plzz ppl..read my previous post before u just make such lame suggestions
Akatsuki Shinobi
09-20-2005, 04:40 PM
he knows so many jutsu's......but do you think he managed to picke up the 3rd's final thecnique
Smeeeeee
09-20-2005, 07:02 PM
akasuki will be able to beat him. not 1 on 1 but gang attatck
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-20-2005, 09:40 PM
yeah gang attack,Orochimaru has no chance.The akatsuki leader should be very strong
Smeeeeee
09-20-2005, 09:51 PM
the 3rd could have beaten him if he didnt summon 1st and 2nd
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-20-2005, 09:57 PM
yeah,i thought so too.But the effect of Kusanagi......
Tactical Thinking
09-20-2005, 10:15 PM
plzz ppl..read my previous post before u just make such lame suggestions
Believe me, I read your post. And I wouldn't be calling anyones suggestions lame. Akatsuki NEVER said they had to team up on Orochimaru to beat him. I've watched EVERY episode at a minimum 3 times. I have every episode and manga saved on my computer or on a dvd. So please, tell me what episode or chapter that was said, before you make your opinions factual. Secondly, I am not sure I deciphered what you said correctly. You're talking about Akatsuki can't beat Orochimaru...in specific right now, Itachi can't beat Orochimaru because he has Sasuke to back him up? Then it's not a fair fight, is it? It's 2 on 1. Not Orochimaru vs Itachi. Orochimaru and Sasuke vs Itachi.
So please, clarify your statement for me. Did you mean as in when he controls Sasuke's body? Because I still doubt he could be Itachi. You highly underestimate his capibilities. You've only seen about 3 unique attacks from. Do you think that is his limitation or something?
narutorokks
09-21-2005, 11:09 AM
Believe me, I read your post. And I wouldn't be calling anyones suggestions lame. Akatsuki NEVER said they had to team up on Orochimaru to beat him. I've watched EVERY episode at a minimum 3 times. I have every episode and manga saved on my computer or on a dvd. So please, tell me what episode or chapter that was said, before you make your opinions factual. Secondly, I am not sure I deciphered what you said correctly. You're talking about Akatsuki can't beat Orochimaru...in specific right now, Itachi can't beat Orochimaru because he has Sasuke to back him up? Then it's not a fair fight, is it? It's 2 on 1. Not Orochimaru vs Itachi. Orochimaru and Sasuke vs Itachi.
So please, clarify your statement for me. Did you mean as in when he controls Sasuke's body? Because I still doubt he could be Itachi. You highly underestimate his capibilities. You've only seen about 3 unique attacks from. Do you think that is his limitation or something?
for u i had to read thru many chapters to find it.
manga chapter 238 page 18.the assumed leader says that they will kill ora..and if they gang up their success rate is high.
and secondly all 3 of itachi's attacks revealed r very devastating.i dont think there r any other moves more powerful that this.he's not a god or sumthing.
and since wen did orachimaru play fair.for him everything's fair til u get wat u want.so definately its ok for him to use sasuke versus itachi.
kakashi1300
09-25-2005, 06:57 AM
according to what i understood about if they work altogether, their success rate will be high is working on the bijuus, because that was their ambition, and not to kill orochimaru. he's just a hindrance to their ambition. have you read what the leader says something about "if we include the kyuubi"? and hey, narutorokks, i don't mean anything on this but why do you call orochimaru as orachimaru? ora, intead of oro, for short. just curious y'know.
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-25-2005, 08:23 AM
maybe they mean if they caught all the bijuus and can use them,the success rate will be high of killing orochimaru,hmm...?
narutorokks
09-25-2005, 09:50 AM
that would b insane.they can i think kill orachimaru without the jinchurikis.but in the manga chap it was clearly said refering to the previous remark about killing ora.and as v saw with kazekage kidnap..they didnt gang up or anything to take gaara.so it was actually intended for ora.
but why do you call orochimaru as orachimaru? ora, intead of oro, for short. just curious y'know.
ora sounds better than oro.its a better nickname.
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-25-2005, 09:55 AM
Orochimaru never bleeds except when the hand sealed by 3rd...
awesome
narutorokks
09-25-2005, 10:04 AM
naa.every time ora summons sumthing he bites his hand and theres blood!!!
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-25-2005, 10:07 AM
i mean the bleeding is cause by enemy(of oro)
narutorokks
09-25-2005, 10:22 AM
yeah.he's not faced any1 good enuff.but during the end of sannin battle the final hits of tsunade made ora bleed from the mouth!!!
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-25-2005, 11:17 AM
lol that's bleeding from the inside...okay let's say "wounded"
narutorokks
09-25-2005, 01:41 PM
yeah.ora is too powerful.only the 3rd came clozz to killing ora.even tsunade & jiraiya couldnt finish the job completely.wen even the great akatsuki know of ora's power and kinda fear it then who can stopp him?!!!!!
Tactical Thinking
09-25-2005, 02:41 PM
for u i had to read thru many chapters to find it.
manga chapter 238 page 18.the assumed leader says that they will kill ora..and if they gang up their success rate is high.
and secondly all 3 of itachi's attacks revealed r very devastating.i dont think there r any other moves more powerful that this.he's not a god or sumthing.
and since wen did orachimaru play fair.for him everything's fair til u get wat u want.so definately its ok for him to use sasuke versus itachi.
Yeah, their success rate is HIGHER if they gang up on him. Not that they HAVE to gang up on Orochimaru to defeat him.
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-26-2005, 12:06 AM
yeah.ora is too powerful.only the 3rd came clozz to killing ora.even tsunade & jiraiya couldnt finish the job completely.wen even the great akatsuki know of ora's power and kinda fear it then who can stopp him?!!!!!
Jinchuurikis can!!!!!!
kakashi1300
09-26-2005, 04:44 AM
maybe they mean if they caught all the bijuus and can use them,the success rate will be high of killing orochimaru,hmm...?
man, you're underestimating the akatsuki too much. personally i think they believe that it will only take one or two akatsukis to finish orochimaru, without the help of the bijuus, of course. their main objective really is to get all the bijuus, and since orochimaru might stand in their way someday, they'll just have to kill him.
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-26-2005, 08:05 AM
they can kill oro without bijuu i know,but oro always runs after defeated by someone. if they had bijuus they can kill oro easily
mangekyu
09-26-2005, 10:39 AM
in one naruto anime episode orochimaro says that he left akutsuki because itachi was stronger than him and oro wanted to train...
based on the myth it was the slug, so tsunade...
narutorokks
09-26-2005, 12:33 PM
wat myth??and tsunade couldnt beat ora even with jiraiya there.
the myth like rocks, paper, scissors.....its the same as slug, snake, toad...so that's y they say that they are all evenly matched......slug beats snake, snake beats toad, and toad beats slug, and it goes in a cycle...i read it on some naruto site...
narutorokks
09-26-2005, 01:05 PM
naa.tsunade is strong.but not the same level as orochimaru.as v saw ora was not too much concerned wen fighting jiraiya and tsunade.he mentioned to kabuto that he was worried that itachi is stronger than him.thats y he came for sasuke.he's gonna beat itachi with his own brother.that is ultimate villianship!!ora is THE MAN!!!
are u sure you're just not biased because you love oro?(sorry i got argumental tendencies, damn my teacher!)
Demi-God
09-26-2005, 02:42 PM
Itachi could kick his ass
not sure of that...
POSSIBLE SPOILER!!!!!!
isnt he going blind???
Demi-God
09-26-2005, 02:48 PM
not sure of that...
POSSIBLE SPOILER!!!!!!
isnt he going blind???
(this is the manga section so if they havnt heard about that then they shouldnt post here in the first bloody place :D)
I think that he is going to be in one of the biggest fights adn at that moment his eyes will fail him and he will lose.
narutorokks
09-27-2005, 12:38 PM
wait a min....y is itachi going blind????i dont think sharingan affects sight or anything!!!
Tactical Thinking
09-27-2005, 03:03 PM
Sharingan doesn't. But excessive use of the Mangekyou Sharingan can affect your eyes. I never heard he was going blind though?
Mr. Papaya
09-27-2005, 09:04 PM
When Kakashi was talking to Itachi during their fight with Itachi's body replacement, he asked him how his eyes were. Itachi seemed surprised and didn't really answer. So we can assume the Mangekyou is hurting his eyesight.
Tactical Thinking
09-27-2005, 09:36 PM
Thus what I said.
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-27-2005, 09:39 PM
i think Itachi was surprised because he knew kakashi has Mangekyou Sharingan
narutorokks
09-27-2005, 09:52 PM
but how can v say that just because it hurt kakashi while doing mangekyou it must b hurtin itachi.i mean he is a fullblooded uchiha damn it!!he mite have been shocked to no that kakashi no's that too.but it still dosent mean his eyes hurt!!!
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-27-2005, 09:58 PM
are you talking to mr.papaya?
Tactical Thinking
09-28-2005, 07:04 AM
i think Itachi was surprised because he knew kakashi has Mangekyou Sharingan
At that point in time, Kakashi didn't have the Mangekyou Sharingan. Or atleast he didn't reveal it whilst he was getting his ass beat by Itachi.
waterbender
09-28-2005, 07:45 AM
Sasuke of course. All sasuke has to do is train with him a bit then betray him. When they fight sasuke will see and copy every move he does with his shagrin and as simple as that finish his ass off. I dont think naruto could beat him because lets face the facts without that demon inside him naruto would have been finished off a long time ago. look I hate myself for saying that I mean I love naruto like a brother and I think he can do anything he sets his mind too but lets face the facts you guys if naruto did fight him it wouldn't be naruto winning but instead that stupid fox demon.
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-28-2005, 10:11 AM
sasuke must have become more skilled than kakashi,taught by the strongest sannin...
narutorokks
09-28-2005, 11:46 AM
but he still cant beat ora.i mean his power is due to the cursed seal of orochimaru.how can he beat ora with his own power??
#1 Bad Guy
09-28-2005, 02:41 PM
We dont know If Itachi is actualy stronger than Orochimaru or not. Orochimaru SAID that Itachi was stronger than him but thats because Itachi has mastered the sharingan, which Orochimaru considers the unlitmate jutsu. To Orochimaru jutsu=strength and in his eyes the Sharingan is the best jutsu thus Orochimaru beleives Itachi is stronger than him, he probaly thought Itachi was stronger than everybody the same way he thinks Sasuke is stronger than everybody else.
narutorokks
09-28-2005, 02:48 PM
so u think itachi mite have used the mangekyou on orochimaru sum time in the past???
#1 Bad Guy
09-28-2005, 02:59 PM
so u think itachi mite have used the mangekyou on orochimaru sum time in the past???
I dont know.......I cant say why Orochimaru thinks the Sharingan is the ultimate jutsu. Probaly because it can copy other jutsu and we all know Orochimaru wants to learn all jutsu.
narutorokks
09-28-2005, 03:06 PM
but how can any1 learn a bloodline limit??even ora sama cant learn thozz.so wats the use !!!the only other option was to obtain an uchiha and that objective has been accomplished.thats wat ora does!he takes people with interesting bloodline limits.1s that r really powerful.makes u kinda wonder y he didnt take neji as his bloodline is also pretty good!!!but then again....he needs sasuke mainly to b able to take out itachi.wat is going to b the outcome??a merger of ora sama and sasuke!!!
typhoon_4434
09-28-2005, 04:54 PM
I think that some of the akatsuki members could pwn him
probaly only Zetsu, Kisame, Itachi and the leader
the_bargain
09-29-2005, 05:48 AM
i can think that jaraiya can beat him and tsunade too. tsunade beat him even when she did not fight foe a lot of years compared too him who always had time to create new techniques. and i can think that jairaya can because he was the one stopping him during the time when he was to leave.
-=(k@k@sh1)=-
09-29-2005, 08:44 AM
I think that some of the akatsuki members could pwn him
probaly only Zetsu, Kisame, Itachi and the leader
do you know zetsu's abilities and skill?
narutorokks
09-29-2005, 12:31 PM
naa.the akatsuki mentionned that they needed to gang up to take out orochimaru.remeber he's not alone.altho none of his followers inluding sasuke n kabuto really measure up to akatsuki strengths but after 2 n half years ...chiyo and sakura took out sasori and naruto n kakashi r gonna take out deidara.so now may b sasuke can match strengths with itachi.all the better for orochimaru.he can let itachi n sasuke go at each other and out of nowere sneak in an attack n finish itachi.lets face it...i dont think any other member can defeat itachi(considering the 1s that have been revealed uptil now)!!!
#1 Bad Guy
09-29-2005, 12:52 PM
naa.the akatsuki mentionned that they needed to gang up to take out orochimaru.remeber he's not alone.altho none of his followers inluding sasuke n kabuto really measure up to akatsuki strengths but after 2 n half years ...chiyo and sakura took out sasori and naruto n kakashi r gonna take out deidara.so now may b sasuke can match strengths with itachi.all the better for orochimaru.he can let itachi n sasuke go at each other and out of nowere sneak in an attack n finish itachi.lets face it...i dont think any other member can defeat itachi(considering the 1s that have been revealed uptil now)!!!
Orochimaru has more people on his team than just Sasgay and good ol Kabuto. Remember the other two shinobi that where with him during the chuunin exam? They where dressed as grass nins but all the grass nins where murdered by Orochimaru, who took one of their faces. The two ninjas with Oro had black stuff around their eyes and black lips, the looked evil, we never saw them after the fight in the forrest of death. What happened to them, and who are they? I bet they are still working with Orochimaru.
Im pretty sure Oro has been up to alot in two and half years, and he knows Akatsuki is going to make their move on him.
narutorokks
09-29-2005, 01:03 PM
Orochimaru has more people on his team than just Sasgay and good ol Kabuto. Remember the other two shinobi that where with him during the chuunin exam? They where dressed as grass nins but all the grass nins where murdered by Orochimaru, who took one of their faces. The two ninjas with Oro had black stuff around their eyes and black lips, the looked evil, we never saw them after the fight in the forrest of death. What happened to them, and who are they? I bet they are still working with Orochimaru.
Im pretty sure Oro has been up to alot in two and half years, and he knows Akatsuki is going to make their move on him.
yeah!!he must have prepared a plan to counter them totally.he's too clever too wait for akatsuki to attack.he knows they're after him.he mite have hundreds of nins either kidnapped or fooled.he will b ready wen they make their move.
Smeeeeee
09-29-2005, 07:25 PM
yea orochimaru prolly has hundreds of sound nins like during the chuunin exam. but like the chuunin exam there all like super weak that will be killed by likes of konohamaru.
colini
09-29-2005, 07:26 PM
If someone could beat orochimaru, it would be Tonton :p
Smeeeeee
09-29-2005, 07:29 PM
or gamakichi LOL
narutorokks
09-29-2005, 10:15 PM
ora sama killed the third and u r joking that tonton will defeat him!!!lol
Scarecrow
09-30-2005, 08:17 AM
Kakashi said he could kill him at the cost of his life and i don't think he was bluffing. As for oro, i don't think he is much stronger than others in the organization, plus he can't use his hands. Now he is weaker than any other sannin and akatsuki, he has kabuto but kabuto lost to naruto?! kabuto sucks. And sasuke is weaker than Itachi even after 3 years. So, Kakashi would own kabuto, oro and sasuke.
#1 Bad Guy
09-30-2005, 11:03 AM
Kakashi said he could kill him at the cost of his life and i don't think he was bluffing. As for oro, i don't think he is much stronger than others in the organization, plus he can't use his hands. Now he is weaker than any other sannin and akatsuki, he has kabuto but kabuto lost to naruto?! kabuto sucks. And sasuke is weaker than Itachi even after 3 years. So, Kakashi would own kabuto, oro and sasuke.
Where did you get all this info?..........no really, where?
-Kakashi never said he'd kill Oro, he siad he would die by trying to kill him, then he started reving up his chidori. Orochimaru agreed and just laughed at Kakashi. When Orochimaru left Kakashi got mad at himself becuase of the "stupid" mistake he had just made by preparing himself to fight Orochimaru. He told himself that he knew Orochimau would have killed him and he looked releived that he didnt. Did you see the look on Kakahsi's face when he knew Orochimaru was behind him? Didnt look like Kakashi was about to kill anyone, looked like he pissed in his pants to me. Kakashi can't kill Orochimaru, he still can't kill him 2 years later with his new sharingan either.
- From what I've seen so far from the two dead Akatsuki members, Orochimaru was alot more powerful than both of them, and chances are he is alot more powerful than most of Akatsuki. From what Orochimaru has said, it seems the only person who posed a threat in the organization was Itachi.
- We still dont know for sure If Orochimaru does not have use of his hands. Its been 2.5 years and according to Oro, Tsunade was not the only way he could get healed.
- Kabuto lost to Naruto after fighting another Sanin and her assistant. Plus like I said up top that was two years ago also. Naruto has gotten stronger since then and more than likly so has Kabuto. You can have your opinion that he suks though, I cant argue with you about that.
- We have no idea what Sasuke's level is, being as though we havnt seen him in 2 and a healf years so how can we say he is under or over anyone's level. Plus Sasuke has a cursed seal, and we all have seen what that does to him. 2 years training with it wouldn't put him that far under his brother's level, thats why Orochimaru gave it to him.........
No way in hell Kakashi would own Kabuto, Sasuke AND Orochimaru all at the same time. Have you ever read Naruto?.......You do what we are talking about right?
Akatsuki Shinobi
09-30-2005, 11:06 AM
that does seem a little under thought of....all three of em...that`s a little...hard...
Scarecrow
10-05-2005, 04:22 PM
i would like to reply to oro: although it has been like six days. So, that day kakashi was scared because he knew he would probably die plus he didn't sense oro behind his back, oro called him on purpose. now, chances are oro would probably kill kakashi but maybe kakashi would devise a plan where he could kill him at the cost of his own life. then after some talk oro RETREATED because he knew kaka is dangerous and would give him some trouble, maybe sasuke would be damaged in a fight. When oro left kaka told himself : "even at the cost of my life, am i mad?" He wondered how come he was ready to discard his life to protect sasuke.
Oro couldn't use hands when we last saw him, and if i would see that he can after three years in my opinion that would be a bs.
Naruto is the main character and all and kabuto underestimated him but i don't see how could someone on kakashi level be hit with the rasengan from naruto. Maybe kabuto did that on purpose not to kill naruto?
Now, sasuke is not on itachi level or stronger than him after three years because then he would kill oro and kabuto and started to look for his brother by himself. (oro said that itachi posed a threat to him).
There is one more thing, kabuto fought tsunade rather well and oro just watched. And don't tell me he was fighting with jiraiya because jiraiya didn't show all he can.
oro is weak and has to hide.
kakashi, in my opinion, is stronger than the three of them individual. But if the situation would be that he has to face all three of them, he'd kill them even at the cost of his life.
hokge
10-08-2005, 01:21 AM
Naruto,he's got the demon fox.
Tactical Thinking
10-08-2005, 11:44 AM
Only I have the key to defeating Orochimaru. :D
anbunaruto87
10-09-2005, 04:54 PM
yeah if naruto wus to let kyubi's chakra over whelm him with all nine tails out i dont think there cud b much to stop him but then again im jus making an assumption
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