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Tango 11-07-2012 03:22 AM

One Piece 688
 
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/688
Enjoy

Dagoro 11-07-2012 03:34 AM

Re: One Piece 688
 
Non broken link

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...60/c688/3.html

Hilarious dynamics between Tashigi and Zoro, even though it feels a bit forced. She doesn't seem to mind him carrying her, and checking out his sword... innuendo much ?

The Moccha stuff was good, but it also felt a bit forced. The set up was adequate but it didn't hit me like some of the classic OP emotional moments of yore. The promise highlights the innocence of a child, while the sacrifice displays maturity beyond her years, very similar to Nami during her youth under Arlong's thumb.

I think Chopper's dialog ruined the moment a bit, I would have preferred if the shock of her collapsing on the floor alone would have caused the other children to stop and begin to snap out of it, followed by Chopper doing his best to hide the reality of the situation by putting on a facade promising that he will do his best to cure her knowing that the chances of her surviving are slim.

Oda's approach wasn't bad, but the straight forwardness took some of the tension away. CC needs to die, for real. Caribou is reaping what he sowed in the cover which is great.

Good chapter, not great.

apacolypz 11-07-2012 03:45 AM

Re: One Piece 688
 
meh.................who the fuck cares about Mocha.....for fuck sakes! Anyway...bring it on Luffy...beat CC's ass like your last name was Obama.

Pritha 11-07-2012 03:50 AM

Re: One Piece 688
 
ya and no op next week :(

Tango 11-07-2012 08:16 AM

Re: One Piece 688
 
Mangapanda not working?
Works fine here. Posted exactly like last week's chapter.

Numinous 11-07-2012 08:33 AM

Re: One Piece 688
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by apacolypz (Post 2130035)
meh.................who the fuck cares about Mocha.....for fuck sakes!

I care more about Mocha than all the people present in the current Naruto fight because at least her characterization isn't a fucking joke.

That said, I agree with Dagoro that this chapter could use more subtlety to intensify its emotional aspect, but I'm satisfied with it and I'm rotting even more for CC vs Chopper. Make it happen, Oda!

Dagoro 11-07-2012 09:05 AM

Re: One Piece 688
 
I enjoy this aspect of OP. Oda actually bothers to give the minor players a face so when something happens it doesn't feel like a cheap attempt at wanting sympathy. Besides I don't need constant action to enjoy something.

PS: Moccha/Kid Nami > teen Obito when it comes to maturity.

apacolypz 11-07-2012 09:22 AM

Re: One Piece 688
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Numinous (Post 2130070)
I care more about Mocha than all the people present in the current Naruto fight because at least her characterization isn't a fucking joke.

That said, I agree with Dagoro that this chapter could use more subtlety to intensify its emotional aspect, but I'm satisfied with it and I'm rotting even more for CC vs Chopper. Make it happen, Oda!

Good for you buddy!

Numinous 11-07-2012 10:35 AM

Re: One Piece 688
 
@ Dagoro I think that comparison made me sick. Joking.

But it's not even an issue of characterization or action vs plot, the primordial issue is the payoff to what is being built. Moccha's payoff matched her plot so far and it was paced correctly so it would hook the readers' attention correctly, thus being a decently written character. Her status as a minor character isn't relevant to issue, because Oda has been consistent with his characters from the bottom to the top regarding payoffs.
Kishimoto, on the other hand, pretty much fed the pig with so much hype that, instead of tons of bacon, the pig just shitted on him. Obito's character and the reveal of Tobi, would make more sense much earlier in the manga, on the late 200's-early 300's, when the plot built around him was proportional to what became the payoff. Adding 300 more chapters on Obito simply made it go from proportional to a tasteless joke and Kishi simply didn't know how the handle the shitstorm incoming his way, so the justification to the asshatery was as bad as the asshatery itself.

But enough of that travesty, back to OP. Since I did not comment last week, I'll do it now: I hope there's more development for Monet (although I'm fairly certain there'll be, knowing Oda). Her characterization did not say fighter to me, so I'm not surprised in the least by Zoro slamming her by a large margin.

@apocalypz: not sure if sarcastic or not. If you are... bitch, please, don't belittle Moccha just because she's a minor character.

ACt 11-07-2012 11:09 AM

Re: One Piece 688
 
I actually enjoyed this a lot more than the rest seem to. Moccha needed to be given a bit more personality before this, but solid motivation there. I think it may lose impact because I think we all believe Moccha will be saved. It'd be better if she doesn't and Chopper goes nuts/has to deal with guilt. But then, it's a manga where the last major sacrifice apparently wasn't a sacrifice.

You know to what I speak.

Numinous 11-07-2012 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ACt (Post 2130098)
But then, it's a manga where the last major sacrifice apparently wasn't a sacrifice.

You know to what I speak.

It's your fault to not take "Okamas never die!" warning seriously!

Dagoro 11-07-2012 12:48 PM

Re: One Piece 688
 
The MS translation is out, and I have to say the dialog change made the Mocha/Chopper scenes a lot more sad.

http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/62428538/4

kluang 11-07-2012 06:55 PM

Re: One Piece 688
 
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcpp0x5mxY1rni3df.jpg

Pritha 11-07-2012 10:00 PM

Re: One Piece 688
 
i know i am repeating myself but can some one ans me this. Did luffy's weakness (turning into a child) after using gear third dispelled after time skip?

apacolypz 11-08-2012 12:30 AM

Re: One Piece 688
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Numinous (Post 2130089)
@ Dagoro I think that comparison made me sick. Joking.

But it's not even an issue of characterization or action vs plot, the primordial issue is the payoff to what is being built. Moccha's payoff matched her plot so far and it was paced correctly so it would hook the readers' attention correctly, thus being a decently written character. Her status as a minor character isn't relevant to issue, because Oda has been consistent with his characters from the bottom to the top regarding payoffs.
Kishimoto, on the other hand, pretty much fed the pig with so much hype that, instead of tons of bacon, the pig just shitted on him. Obito's character and the reveal of Tobi, would make more sense much earlier in the manga, on the late 200's-early 300's, when the plot built around him was proportional to what became the payoff. Adding 300 more chapters on Obito simply made it go from proportional to a tasteless joke and Kishi simply didn't know how the handle the shitstorm incoming his way, so the justification to the asshatery was as bad as the asshatery itself.

But enough of that travesty, back to OP. Since I did not comment last week, I'll do it now: I hope there's more development for Monet (although I'm fairly certain there'll be, knowing Oda). Her characterization did not say fighter to me, so I'm not surprised in the least by Zoro slamming her by a large margin.

@apocalypz: not sure if sarcastic or not. If you are... bitch, please, don't belittle Moccha just because she's a minor character.


No bitch the chapter was MEH to me..that is my own opinion don't be a bitch and target others because you feel Mocha is an outstanding source of entertainment.


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