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d1v 03-10-2007 12:10 PM

some thoughts of the current chapters
 
ok..at first some facts:

- Orochimaru left Akatsuki because he could not get Itachi´s body
- both were in Akatsuki, when Orochimaru tried to get Itachi´s body and lost his left arm
- In the end of part 1 Akatsuki gathered and the leader (or someone else?)said that they all gathered 7 years ago after Orochimaru left Akatsuki
- Itachi was 13-14 when he killed his clan exept of Sasuke
- Sasuke is 15 in Part 2
- Sasuke told Naruto in Part 2 that he (Sasuke) is not strong enough to kill Itachi
- Orochimaru has to wait at least (?!) 3 years to perform his jutsu for getting another´s body
- 2 1/2 years left since part 1
- the cursed Seal was on Sasuke´s body when he left the room (chapter 345)

ok..i think that is enough.

sorry for all repeating questions and so on..but I find it necessary to put all the questions and thought in the same thread because it is easier to overlook that all.
1. question(s): When both..Itachi AND Orochimaru where at the same time in Akatsuki and Orochimaru left 7 years ago (counting from part 1) then Itachi would be 11 years at the time Orochimaru tried to get his body and failed.
With 11 years Itachi was stronger (or at least so strong to defend himself from Orochimaru´s try to get his body) than Orochimaru?
11 years old...but on the picture in chapter 345 Itachi seems to be much taller than an 11 years old child. How can that be? Or is Itachi NOT so tall on the picture and that is my imagine?
And I read some comments that Itachi joined Akatsuki in the time he killed his clan because that would make much more sense with his skills but does not make sense with Orochimaru´s leaving the organozation BECAUSE OF ITACHI!

Let us say that Itachi was 11-14 years old when Orochimaru tried to get his body and FAILED! Itachi was at that age able to defend Orochimaru..
Sasuke is 15 now and as Orochimaru said..Sasuke has more potential in his Sharingan than Itachi..would not that mean that Sasuke is either able to defend Orochimaru´s try? To me it makes sense..although Itachi is stronger that Sasuke yet (ok 2 1/2 years left and Itachi got stronger, too..makes sense yeah!)

And now the most unlogical thing in the Naruto universe..I hope so badly that I am wrong with this because nothing would suck more than this...

2 1/2 years left and Orochimaru tried to get Sasuke´s body..HOW CAN THAT BE? How can he be able to perfom this jutsu or whatelse when its said that he can do it when at least 3 years passed..when he would not to it..he would die like Kabuto said..OK that would make sense for the story to make Orochimaru able to perform the jutsu..but why does Kishi makes Orochimaru so weak then? Why did not he let Orochimaru healthy? that would make much more sense..i do not get that with the 3 years rule for the jutsu and only 2 1/2 years passed..

I mean Naruto and Akatsuki said in part 1 they have 3 years.
And that only 2 1/2 years left means that Naruto has time to rescue Sasuke and so on..and that Akatsuki have time to kill Orochimaru...

that is really annoying and I hope I am wrong with that..but the facts were told by the characters..lol..unlogical story..

And the last and current thing: When Orochimaru gets killed the cursed seal will disappear right? I read that from many people..That would mean that Orochimaru got the body..but that would not make sense with the power of Sasuke/Itachi..Itachi would have MONSTER POWERS at age of 11-14 LOOOOL
unlogical...and Sasuke has more potential in his Sharingan than Itachi
OK Sasuke might have won but Orochimaru is still in his body?! hmmm..possible..but what happened then to Orochimaru? How can Sasuke leave him alive in HIS OWN BODY..lol..

OR you guys are wrong with the idea that when Orochimaru gets killed/dies the cursed seal disappear..that (to me) would not make sense...

I am sorry for all my foolishness when I am wrong with all these things.
And sorry when I wrote wrong facts and thoughts..I just wanted to do this because I do not see anything wrong..

MikeyM1979 03-10-2007 12:11 PM

Re: some thoughts of the current chapters
 
You can find nice information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akatsuki_(Naruto)

d1v 03-10-2007 12:15 PM

Re: some thoughts of the current chapters
 
your answer does not make any sense dude..I read that already..
:/

Nexus 03-10-2007 01:35 PM

Re: some thoughts of the current chapters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by d1v (Post 1010122)
ok..at first some facts:

- Orochimaru left Akatsuki because he could not get Itachi´s body
- both were in Akatsuki, when Orochimaru tried to get Itachi´s body and lost his left arm
- In the end of part 1 Akatsuki gathered and the leader (or someone else?)said that they all gathered 7 years ago after Orochimaru left Akatsuki
- Itachi was 13-14 when he killed his clan exept of Sasuke
- Sasuke is 15 in Part 2
- Sasuke told Naruto in Part 2 that he (Sasuke) is not strong enough to kill Itachi
- Orochimaru has to wait at least (?!) 3 years to perform his jutsu for getting another´s body
- 2 1/2 years left since part 1
- the cursed Seal was on Sasuke´s body when he left the room (chapter 345)

ok..i think that is enough.

sorry for all repeating questions and so on..but I find it necessary to put all the questions and thought in the same thread because it is easier to overlook that all.
1. question(s): When both..Itachi AND Orochimaru where at the same time in Akatsuki and Orochimaru left 7 years ago (counting from part 1) then Itachi would be 11 years at the time Orochimaru tried to get his body and failed.
With 11 years Itachi was stronger (or at least so strong to defend himself from Orochimaru´s try to get his body) than Orochimaru?
11 years old...but on the picture in chapter 345 Itachi seems to be much taller than an 11 years old child. How can that be? Or is Itachi NOT so tall on the picture and that is my imagine?
And I read some comments that Itachi joined Akatsuki in the time he killed his clan because that would make much more sense with his skills but does not make sense with Orochimaru´s leaving the organozation BECAUSE OF ITACHI!

Let us say that Itachi was 11-14 years old when Orochimaru tried to get his body and FAILED! Itachi was at that age able to defend Orochimaru..
Sasuke is 15 now and as Orochimaru said..Sasuke has more potential in his Sharingan than Itachi..would not that mean that Sasuke is either able to defend Orochimaru´s try? To me it makes sense..although Itachi is stronger that Sasuke yet (ok 2 1/2 years left and Itachi got stronger, too..makes sense yeah!)

And now the most unlogical thing in the Naruto universe..I hope so badly that I am wrong with this because nothing would suck more than this...

2 1/2 years left and Orochimaru tried to get Sasuke´s body..HOW CAN THAT BE? How can he be able to perfom this jutsu or whatelse when its said that he can do it when at least 3 years passed..when he would not to it..he would die like Kabuto said..OK that would make sense for the story to make Orochimaru able to perform the jutsu..but why does Kishi makes Orochimaru so weak then? Why did not he let Orochimaru healthy? that would make much more sense..i do not get that with the 3 years rule for the jutsu and only 2 1/2 years passed..

I mean Naruto and Akatsuki said in part 1 they have 3 years.
And that only 2 1/2 years left means that Naruto has time to rescue Sasuke and so on..and that Akatsuki have time to kill Orochimaru...

that is really annoying and I hope I am wrong with that..but the facts were told by the characters..lol..unlogical story..

And the last and current thing: When Orochimaru gets killed the cursed seal will disappear right? I read that from many people..That would mean that Orochimaru got the body..but that would not make sense with the power of Sasuke/Itachi..Itachi would have MONSTER POWERS at age of 11-14 LOOOOL
unlogical...and Sasuke has more potential in his Sharingan than Itachi
OK Sasuke might have won but Orochimaru is still in his body?! hmmm..possible..but what happened then to Orochimaru? How can Sasuke leave him alive in HIS OWN BODY..lol..

OR you guys are wrong with the idea that when Orochimaru gets killed/dies the cursed seal disappear..that (to me) would not make sense...

I am sorry for all my foolishness when I am wrong with all these things.
And sorry when I wrote wrong facts and thoughts..I just wanted to do this because I do not see anything wrong..

And I read some comments that Itachi joined Akatsuki in the time he killed his clan because that would make much more sense with his skills but does not make sense with Orochimaru´s leaving the organozation BECAUSE OF ITACHI!
You have to remember Orochimaru's plan which to obtain all the jutsu in the world so he can understand the purpose of the world...what better way to obtain as many jutsu as possibly can than with the Sharingan. Realizing that Itachi's stronger than him and with Sasuke (being as young as he is with no Sharingan yet) he had no choice but to leave since it's not like the Akatsuki members is going to teach him anything.

Let us say that Itachi was 11-14 years old when Orochimaru tried to get his body and FAILED! Itachi was at that age able to defend Orochimaru..
Sasuke is 15 now and as Orochimaru said..Sasuke has more potential in his Sharingan than Itachi..would not that mean that Sasuke is either able to defend Orochimaru´s try? To me it makes sense..although Itachi is stronger that Sasuke yet (ok 2 1/2 years left and Itachi got stronger, too..makes sense yeah!)
You have a good point there...the only thing I can say is wait to next week's manga to see if Orochimaru was successful or not.

OR you guys are wrong with the idea that when Orochimaru gets killed/dies the cursed seal disappear..that (to me) would not make sense...That's what people assumed would happen...nobody knows just yet.

I must say that you've brought up good things that one should consider looking over.

d1v 03-10-2007 01:51 PM

Re: some thoughts of the current chapters
 
@nexus: mate..it seems that you did not understand the points..when Itachi was 7 years ago (counting from part 1) in Akatsuki already..at age of 11 (LOOOOL) and could defend Orochimaru..(lol..ok..might be possible..why not..) then this part would make sense..when they both were at the same time in Akatsuki (and look in chapter 345 their clothes..) Itachi had to be 11. Other things are wrong..they can not be exist..but when Itachi joined Akatsuki at the time killing his clan at age of 13-14 while Orochimaru left 2 years ago from that time (in which Itachi killed his clan)..that does not make sense because we saw in chapter 345 that they both were together in Akatsuki and Orochimaru left because of Itachi..

It has to be right that Itachi joined Akatsuki when he was 11-12 and not 13-14.

AND..how can Orochimaru perform the jutsu when he has to wait at least 3 years? he SHOULD NOT be able to do that...that does not make any sense..that is what I mean..unlogical..HE CAN NOT DO THAT LOOOOL.

really annoying :/.

MikeyM1979 03-10-2007 01:57 PM

Re: some thoughts of the current chapters
 
It's an anime/manga. Logic doesn't exist.

d1v 03-11-2007 12:42 PM

Re: some thoughts of the current chapters
 
really bad answer although that is/could be true... :/

but no-one can say something to that?
does someone agrees in few thoughts?
or some disagreements?
nothing?
lol...

laowho 03-13-2007 11:01 PM

Re: some thoughts of the current chapters
 
oh the whole two people one body thing. What if sasuke was kinda inspired by the whole deamon in your body thing and tried to absorb orochimaru and seal him kind of like he saw in naruto. I don't think it will happen but.... that would be like a power boost to put him up in the top levels.. hmm.. maybe..

ChidoriAcv2 03-17-2007 09:28 PM

Re: some thoughts of the current chapters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyM1979 (Post 1010286)
It's an anime/manga. Logic doesn't exist.

Seriously, anime/manga doesn't need sense lol, it's purpose is to entertain us and intrigue us, not show us boring logic so you're right


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