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KyoichiKanami 04-28-2005 11:02 PM

Tae Kwon Do vs. Jeet Kune Do vs. Capoeria
 
Which do you guys think would win? Personally, I say Jeet Kune Do. And here's why.

Jeet Kune Do> Tae Kwon Do because by the time Tae Kwon Do has matched the attacks, Jeet's speed has completely smashed them

Jeet Kune Do> Capoeria because essentially, Capoeria's force isn't that strong. Jeet's endurance would wear Capoeria out and then crush them

What do you guys say?

Roy Mustang 04-28-2005 11:09 PM

Tae kwon do because of the foot switching and many stances we have and a lot of critical kicking i think tae kwon do would kick all ass
(if tae kwon do wasn't great then why is hwarang in tekken a tae kwon do guy? :D)

Ero 04-29-2005 05:02 AM

no offense, but its kinda pointless to pit martial art against martial art, its not how "great" or "superior" the art is, its how experienced and strong the martial artist is, in body spirit and mind (i do tae kwon do myself but i don necesarrily think it'll kcik ass, again, it depends on the artist)

kenokuvato 05-01-2005 02:28 AM

I don't know which would be better but I personally want to learn Jeet Kun Do, because we all know that Bruce Lee was the greatest martial artist ever.

Aruko 05-01-2005 01:56 PM

Quote:

Jeet Kune Do> Tae Kwon Do because by the time Tae Kwon Do has matched the attacks, Jeet's speed has completely smashed them

Jeet Kune Do> Capoeria because essentially, Capoeria's force isn't that strong. Jeet's endurance would wear Capoeria out and then crush them
Come on...Do you study martial arts? Because if you do you SHOULD know that it depends on the artist themself, as the posters above said. BUT if it were by style this would be my analysis:

To your first analysis of JKD and TKD:
TKD is also known for it's speed. Yes mostly for kicks but speed+strength+kick = pain. I have never really seen JKD in action before so I really wouldn't know much about it.

To your second analysis of JKD and Capoeria:
Do you know how many kicks/attacks someone that studies Capoeria can get out? Easily they can throw like 8 attacks. Even if the JKD practitioner were a hard-ass, literally, one open spot and a Capoeria practitioner would have 6-8 shots in.

Again I don't know all too much about JKD but what you said sort of offended me that you would say what JKD could do but not what the other forms could do.

Meteorain27 05-01-2005 05:34 PM

I don't know much about Capoeria and only know a bit about Jeet Kune Do (from video games, which aren't very accurate). Could someone explain to me about them. Thanks in Advance. Anyways, I take Tae Kwon Do, which, like Aruko said, is very speedy. I've faced other martial art styles due to my instructor's insistence on getting us to know a bit of everything, such as Brazilian Jujuitsu(sp?) (All I have to say is: ouch) and I would have to say it depends on the people who are fighting to say which style will beat each other. But I'm sure the thread poster has already heard enough of that.

uzu_naruto 05-01-2005 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aruko samaki
Come on...Do you study martial arts? Because if you do you SHOULD know that it depends on the artist themself, as the posters above said. BUT if it were by style this would be my analysis:

To your first analysis of JKD and TKD:
TKD is also known for it's speed. Yes mostly for kicks but speed+strength+kick = pain. I have never really seen JKD in action before so I really wouldn't know much about it.

To your second analysis of JKD and Capoeria:
Do you know how many kicks/attacks someone that studies Capoeria can get out? Easily they can throw like 8 attacks. Even if the JKD practitioner were a hard-ass, literally, one open spot and a Capoeria practitioner would have 6-8 shots in.

Again I don't know all too much about JKD but what you said sort of offended me that you would say what JKD could do but not what the other forms could do.

I honestly don't know I would say Jeet Kune Do but like aruko_samaki mentioned earlier it's not guaranteed because what was stated about the capoeira master.One must remember not everyone can use JKD as effective as the one invented it.If both fighters are seasoned in their art than the outcome of the fight is unpredictable especially with a style that is as unorthodox as capoeira.Also as stated above it depends on the person and how well they can fight in a certain scenario.

colini 05-02-2005 07:25 PM

I don't real know JKD, only know a bit of TKD, and of Capoeira..

But I think Capoeira is more of a show sport, Capoeira looks very dangerous, but I doubt the effectiveness.. MayB a Mix of "normal fighting" and capoeira can be effective, but only capoeira.. Nah..

Ero 05-03-2005 03:23 AM

from what i kno of capoeira, yes it is a show sport and encorporates many sides of dancing with fighting movements, but it isn't necesarrily as pointless as u think it is, capoeira is not anything like what u c in fightning games like tekken 5 (im not saying ur judgement was made from this, but im jst saying) it actually has many basics that u also practice in many martial arts like tkd and jkd, so its really up in the air and dependant on the fighter, (like aruko said)

kakashi5 05-08-2005 09:04 PM

If all three fighters were of similar physical abilities and experts in ONLY their own "martial art" the jeet kune do stylist would win MOST of the time.

Tae kwon do has a problem in that very few practice the "hardcore" military style, but rather a sport TKD style, where punching counts little, no groundfighting and often limited contact etc. May TKD stylists fighting ability suffers purely from the fact you get what you train for. Training for points competition with limited contact, limited use of fists, no groundfighting and all does not help in a full contact all out fight.

Capoeira is a fluid style involving many EXTREMELY showy move and no contact sparring, it is in effect an energetic dance to most practitioners.

Jeet kune do, when practised as the founder wanted, incorporates all the elements that the practitioner himself has found to work for himself UNDER PRESSURE. At it's best it contains only the effective techniques applicable under stress. JKD stylists train at all ranges whereas the other styles do not, i have seen many a TKD stylist become like a fish out of water when the fight has hit the floor (as i have with pure boxers/kickboxers etc)

in conclusion, the JKD fighter has the best tools in all ranges to overcome the other stylists more times than he will lose. of course any one can get knocked out/submitted so he wouldn't win everytime.


before you all ask, yes i have and do train in martial arts.

Ero 05-11-2005 04:16 AM

its true that originally JKD would have been best equipped, but JKD has become a little more different from the original way it was taught, and yes although TKD has its sports side, a lot of practitioners do teach an extensive range of street fighting and survival skills, the fish out of water that u saw, were probably most likely just badly trained, or lacking in experience, i mean a JKD practitioner would look like that too if they were badly trained or lacked expereince and same goes for basically all styles, as for capoeira, it depends which form of capoeira u do, yes it is fundamentally a rhythmic dance incorporated with martial arts moves, but the core basics can still be used for self defense, i mean the side of capoiera that most ppl see is the traditional dance side, its kinda like how alot of ppl only c da sports side of TKD (im not saying that that is what ur saying, but im just saying that alot of ppl think tat)

i do TKD, and fortunately my coach, teaches alot of other styles to us, ranging from wing chun to aikido (but im still lacking in exp and a l'il crappy :D)

kakashi5 05-11-2005 01:02 PM

actually i've seen stylists in every martial art become fishes out of water on the ground, so that maybe wasn't fair. If you've not trained brazilian jiu jitsu or submission grappling etc, you will be owned 99% of the time by someone who has.

Meteorain27 05-12-2005 09:00 PM

kakashi5 is too right on that. My instructor got badly beaten in groundfighting by a brazilian jiu jitsu practicioner. No one really stood a chance against the person. I was sore for almost a week after I groundfought with him.

Ero 05-13-2005 04:18 AM

well, maybe because
(no offense to ur sensei or u ) maybe becoz u were out of ur element. i mean they specialise in ground fights, so it might not have bin the fact that brazJiu is superior but rather that the instructor was just good at drawing u into his specialty field

kakashi5 05-13-2005 06:45 AM

which is what being a good fighter is ALL about


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