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kluang 07-22-2008 01:55 AM
Is 'The Dark Knight' for Kids?
 
http://kids.yahoo.com/parents/blog/1...#39;+for+Kids?

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It's not a comic book movie.

That's the first thing you should know when your kids ask to see "The Dark Knight," this summer's biggest blockbuster. The film is vastly more true to Frank Miller's famous alternative view of The Batman than to the zap-pow camp of Adam West's TV portrayal and sanitized DC comics that filled our childhood.

So how do you answer? Should your children see "The Dark Knight?" We turned first to our resident film fanatic and visual designer, Chuck Kim, the first of the Yahoo! Kids team to see the box office smash.

"I would not take a kid to see 'The Dark Knight,' said Chuck. "The Joker and Two-Face alone could give a kid nightmares." The oft-mentioned violence is not of one of gore, he says, but more of the heart—and thus potentially more terrifying. "The main thing is that it is a very dark movie," Chuck concludes."There's no ray of hope for the city." He recommends kids be 14 or older to see the film.

Such cautions seem to be the consensus, beginning with movie's star, Christian Bale, who said this on the "Today Show:"

"It’s quite haunting. It’s something which will stay with you for quite a while afterward. I’m not sure how much a child will be oblivious to that. I would say starting at about 9, maybe 10 years old may be an appropriate age for kids to be able to deal with this.”

A sampling of other comments:


"'Dark Knight' is a staggeringly violent and disturbing film. Thought-provoking for adults, but potentially terrifying for children," says Jeffrey Weiss of The Dallas Morning News. "The PG-13 rating should offer some warning, yes. But this film dances just south of an R in my book."


"This film is not for children, and I would discourage parents from taking anyone under 12 to see this movie," writes Jim Pappas of The Trades.com. “'The Dark Knight' offers a glimpse into the darker places within each of us, which might be cathartic for some, but others will simply be afraid."


"The movie is sadistic, violent, disturbing and also one of the best and biggest movies of the year," according to MoviesOnline.ca. "That all said, 3 out of 4 of those components are absolutely not suitable for young children... regardless of how the MPAA rated the movie."

Ultimately, the "Dark Knight" decision depends upon you, your children and your relationships with them. There are children at age 14 (and I was one) who would be deeply troubled by the darkness of the film. And there are children of 10 who could not only face down the terror but even discuss some of the film's layered themes.

In all cases, we suggest talking with your children about "The Dark Knight." Be sure they understand that it is not a typical comic book movie and that it is intended for grown-ups. And should you permit them to see the film, we strongly recommend discussing it afterwards; our Common Sense Media review has some excellent starting points.
How about you? Have you seen "The Dark Knight?" Would you let childrens to see it?

YoshiToshi 07-22-2008 02:05 AM
Re: Is 'The Dark Knight' for Kids?
 
Depends what age. I would let kids 7-8 and up. Kids younger than that is just a little too young. I will agree, it is a PG-13 movie, afterall-- I wouldn't let a 4-year old watch it. Especially with violence, language and whatnot. =/

slayer91 07-22-2008 02:08 AM
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i have not seen it but after reading what that guy wrote proved how much of a pussy he is....

the limitations we put on children are just rediculous....we block things that are natural all call it inapropriet.....we treat our children as if they are beacons of light that are completely pure in every single way.....but i have not actually seen this movie so i cant judge the horrifying quality of this movie that will scare children and make them piss themselves

saskatu 07-22-2008 02:16 AM
Re: Is 'The Dark Knight' for Kids?
 
If kids want to see or know any terror take them to a Freddy Kruger movie.

I really dont give a damn on what age a child is, they should watch the movie if they chose to. Also if they get scared make them watch a clown movie, then see what they would say.

Trey 07-23-2008 04:02 AM
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It's only for kids as far as the "cool, it's a superhero with a cool costume beating up badguys" factor goes. Outside of the special effects, the plot and underlying intricacies of morals and existentialism are obviously above their comprehension and intended for a more mature audience.

RNB 07-23-2008 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Trey (Post 1551650)
It's only for kids as far as the "cool, it's a superhero with a cool costume beating up badguys" factor goes. Outside of the special effects, the plot and underlying intricacies of morals and existentialism are obviously above their comprehension and intended for a more mature audience.
You know what is funny. I tried talking to my 15 year old friends about them and they said, "Nobody cares."

I thought it was a great film because of the existential elements, but I didn't like that little stab at anarchy.

YondaimeBunshin 07-23-2008 12:26 PM
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^Well I think that was just to accentuate the idea that Batman as a symbol is ultimate incorruptible justice and order. Whereas the opposite of perfect order is...anarchy. And while I don't think the Joker would normally admit to that, I liked the idea that he's aware of his position and that he's contradicting the logic and laws of the world and somehow doing it a favor, as opposed to being just insane for no apparent reason. He's insanity...with a purpose! *sports insanity related product following slogan* It was so badass I wanna go see it for a 3rd time.

But back OT: I actually think kids are already corrupted to the point where it wouldn't matter, anymore 5 year olds deal are exposed to things that when I was a kid, had to be 10 and yea high so to speak to be exposed to. 40 is the new 30 and somehow I hope that they actually have an unrated version when DVD is available. This isn't the worst PG-13 movie I've ever seen.

SilverYondiame 07-23-2008 02:23 PM
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I'll say that the movie was freak'n awesome and had many goals that it reached along with many underlying themes. As far as it goes for kids, there is soo much more they are shown on normal television with family guy and such that this movie would seem okay. But I would still say no it shouldn't be shown to kids at all! Its really dark and sets a tone that is definitely adult. This is not a movie for kids to go see..... I actually know quite a few kids that just thought the commercials were scary enough.

D4rKR34v3r 07-23-2008 04:09 PM
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http://www.spill.com/movie-review/Th...+Knight/357349

LonelyNinja 07-23-2008 06:42 PM
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"Just dances south of an R rated movie?" Are you fucking kidding me? R-rated movies are like gore and sex and drug use and extreme language. Does Batman have any of that? No! The one time that Gordon almost says "Shit" he gets shot. (Spoilers, hurr hurr hurr.) Is there any gore? No. There are no bits of people flying around, there isn't any blood gushing out anywhere. Hell, there isn't all that much blood. Drug use, no. Sex, no. So yeah, Batman is fine for a PG-13 movie. Also, there's a goddamn reason why it's PG-13. That means kids under thirteen really shouldn't be watching this film. Is it that hard for parents to figure out? Also, yeah, kids these days aren't innocent. I mean, for fuck's sake, I heard a seven-year-old call someone Miller Lite. As in the beer. When I was seven I didn't know what brands of beer there were, hell, I honestly don't think I knew what beer was. So yeah, a ten-year-old could see Dark Knight and wouldn't be all that traumatized. Maybe by Two-Faces' ugly mug, but that's about it.

prez420 07-24-2008 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LonelyNinja (Post 1552016)
"Just dances south of an R rated movie?" Are you fucking kidding me? R-rated movies are like gore and sex and drug use and extreme language. Does Batman have any of that? No! The one time that Gordon almost says "Shit" he gets shot. (Spoilers, hurr hurr hurr.) Is there any gore? No. There are no bits of people flying around, there isn't any blood gushing out anywhere. Hell, there isn't all that much blood. Drug use, no. Sex, no. So yeah, Batman is fine for a PG-13 movie. Also, there's a goddamn reason why it's PG-13. That means kids under thirteen really shouldn't be watching this film. Is it that hard for parents to figure out? Also, yeah, kids these days aren't innocent. I mean, for fuck's sake, I heard a seven-year-old call someone Miller Lite. As in the beer. When I was seven I didn't know what brands of beer there were, hell, I honestly don't think I knew what beer was. So yeah, a ten-year-old could see Dark Knight and wouldn't be all that traumatized. Maybe by Two-Faces' ugly mug, but that's about it.

I agree with u on most points about kids not being as innocent as some people think they are but i disagree with u on a few points about the movie. Yes there isnt much in the way of gore but there is quite a bit of implied gore
Joker slicing open that guy's face to give a permanent smile is a good example


There are quite a few other scenes where the gore and brutality are implied but not shown on screen in fact they make up most of the movie. Its pretty clear to me this movie pushes the PG13 rating to its limits but dont get me wrong i thought it was a awesome movie. Visual wise its a PG13 borderline R but story/plot wise its a solid R.

asq599 07-24-2008 12:28 PM
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first off greatest movie ever really mindblowing

but "not a comic book movie" wtf??!?! i understand that it is different but alot was based off the killing joke!!

and this is just another thing for stupid media and crap to b**** and complain about
if its rated pg-13 maby someone under 13 might not be someone to see this movie...just a thought. but idk iv been watch ing R movies sence i was 8 and iam not mentally scared but thats just me

theres my 2 cents

white wolf god 07-25-2008 05:36 PM
Re: Is 'The Dark Knight' for Kids?
 
Its a great movie, but some parts there not for kids, basically the combat fighting...

For those seen the film...

the bit where joker has one of the mob leaders by the head with a knife in his mouth now that was a bit disturbing might influence young kids


then again saying that kids were in the movie and actually laffed when the joker came on, and then again kids were just running around the cinema through out the whole film which says something as well.....

Spiegel 07-26-2008 05:25 PM
Re: Is 'The Dark Knight' for Kids?
 
Morally speaking I wouldn't let a kid watch the movie if he was younger than 13 due to the violence and language but if the kid was mentally mature and knew the fineline of fiction and reality and I knew for a fact he wouldn't have nightmares then why not. I've seen crazier things on the news than what this movie showed.

RNB 07-26-2008 07:11 PM
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If the Dark Knight isn't for kids, than kids shouldn't watch any TV. That has far worse effects than a movie with violence and philosophical themes.


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