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seanizzzle 10-16-2009 05:52 PM

News of the day: Home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction
 
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A Vancouver-area father has been found guilty of negligence causing bodily harm after botching a home-circumcision attempt on his four-year-old son as part of a spiritual quest to make things right with God.
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The bizarre case centred on a battle over the religious freedoms of the former Jehovah's Witness, who was trying to follow a literal interpretation of the Bible after a series of misfortunes hit his family.

During the trial, the B.C. Supreme Court heard that after a bad motorcycle accident in 2002 left both the man and his wife with brain injuries, he began the religious quest that eventually led him to believe that both he and son needed to be circumcised to celebrate Passover.

The man, identified only as D.J.W. to protect the identity of his son, began researching home circumcision on the internet and in the Bible, and by listening to a radio show.

His first attempt to circumcise himself ended up with his foreskin turning black and only part of it cut off. When he couldn't stop the bleeding, he called an ambulance, and a doctor in a hospital emergency room ended up stitching up the bleeding wound.

The man later returned to the internet for more research and met some other religious fundamentalists, who were also dog breeders. They advised him they used a veterinary powder called BloodStop to halt any bleeding when they circumcised their 13-year-old son.

At $30 a bottle, Blood Stop was too expensive for the man. But during a trip to Washington state to celebrate Passover with a friend, the man found another more affordable product, called Wonder Dust, meant for horses.

The man also contacted several doctors and rabbis, all of whom refused to do the operation either because the boy was too young for a general anesthetic or because the family was not Jewish.

So after a trip to London Drugs to buy razor blades in January 2006, he asked his son if he could cut off his foreskin, so he could be just like dad.

The man testified in court that, after the boy consented to the circumcision, he fed him some mead a biblical beverage made from honey lay him on the kitchen floor, stretched his penis across a cutting board and cut off part of the foreskin.

When asked in court whether the man used ice to ease the boy's pain, he replied, "Where would the Israelites have found ice?"

He then applied the Wonder Dust, gave the boy some ice cream and told him he could watch whatever movies he wanted that week, before heading off to church, leaving the boy in the care of his mother, who could not stand the sight of blood.

The boy spent the next few days walking with his legs wide apart, until a social worker, who caught wind of the operation, brought two police officers to the house to take the boy into protective custody for a medical examination.

After the medical staff found the boy's penis coated in a thick cap of black tarry substance from the Wonder Dust, they decided to remove the rest of the family's children from the home.

Meanwhile, a surgeon removed "a beehive coating" from the boy's penis before properly circumcising him, saying later in court that the boy would likely have ended up with a disfigured penis had the operation not been completed.

In court, the man's lawyer, Douglas Christie, argued the man's desire to fulfil his religious duty negated any criminal intent.

And in her ruling issued on Wednesday, Judge Marion Allan found the man not guilty on charges of aggravated assault and assault with a weapon, saying the man did not seriously harm the boy and the razor blade was not used as a weapon.

But the judge also ruled the child could not have consented to the operation and the father should have known he needed a trained professional to perform it especially given his own first-hand experience and found him guilty of negligence causing bodily harm.

"Indeed his motivations could be characterized as selfish or even deluded insofar as he believed that he was unable to live in his home at Passover with any uncircumcised male, including his four-year-old son," wrote the judge in her ruling.

The man's lawyer is reportedly considering an appeal on constitutional grounds, and a sentence has yet to be handed down.
My reaction to this is *face palm*...wtf is wrong with this guy..i mean i understand his intentions were religoious and all but you thought he'd learn after he failed the first time....n the isrealites didnt have ice?..come on man it's the 21 century..no one expects you to circumsize urslef with no pain reliever of some sort...and i could go on and on..buh wat do u guys think?

sikfearless0 10-16-2009 06:25 PM

Re: News of the day: Home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction
 
Ouch...I wouldn't be surprised if that kid grows up resenting his dad.

seanizzzle 10-17-2009 03:31 PM

Re: News of the day: Home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction
 
^^^ya i kno..eh!

kluang 10-17-2009 08:45 PM

Re: News of the day: Home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction
 
In my distress I called to the LORD; I had the wrong number. I called my sister/daughter in DeMoines

Sevi 10-19-2009 10:39 PM

Re: News of the day: Home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction
 
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Originally Posted by sikfearless0 (Post 1762024)
Ouch...I wouldn't be surprised if that kid grows up resenting his dad.

Ya think ?

-SassyLady- 10-20-2009 04:43 PM

Re: News of the day: Home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction
 
poor kid i mean poor thing is probably hurting like hell

but what pisses me off is how could his own father do that to his own little 4- year old son i mean i don't get that religious bs at all i mean it comes down to how can a father do that to his own son.

Miburo 10-27-2009 04:39 PM

Re: News of the day: Home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction
 
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Originally Posted by seanizzzle (Post 1762018)
My reaction to this is *face palm*...wtf is wrong with this guy..i mean i understand his intentions were religoious and all but you thought he'd learn after he failed the first time....n the isrealites didnt have ice?..come on man it's the 21 century..no one expects you to circumsize urslef with no pain reliever of some sort...and i could go on and on..buh wat do u guys think?

I 'facepalmed' at this paragraph.

wtf man lyke no 1 expects u to circumsize urslef w/o ice lolololol

Jaxon 10-27-2009 04:59 PM

Re: News of the day: Home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction
 
Yeah, I would at least expect someone to whack their dong on some frozen peas or something after they hack off their own foreskin. God.

narutojm 02-15-2010 09:03 PM

Re: News of the day: Home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction
 
wtf the guy is fuckin crazy


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