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Nietzsche probably wasn't at all trying to make a comment on God's existence. The madman had more of a warning/pseudo-lament feel to what he said. |
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Not long enough, write more.
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God is dead, and no-one cares. If there is a Hell, I'll see you there.
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^ I'm with this prick.
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i know what friedrich nietzsche wrote and meant, but i don't give a fuck about religion.
so, for my concern, god is dead or better, never excisted in the first place... |
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because RNB very planely stated friedrich's point and meaning, which isn't really saying anything about you and your beliefs. So when discussing his ideologies and ideas, which aren't at about religion, but instead about the idea of absolutes, why bring up that you don't care about religion and if you don't care about religion, why be so passionate in yoru response? |
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I think that Nerox guy posted the quote in RNB's post somewhere recently, using it as a response to a person (Adbot) wishing it was god. Which sorta explains his post in here.
Also, it is true that Nietzsche was not being literal in that quote. He wasn't saying that God existed, but is now dead. He was referring to the concept or belief in a divine being that was a basis of morality and knowledge for hundreds of years (via religion), and that it was/will be eroded away by rationality and science. That doesn't mean the phrase itself is making no statement regarding the existence of God. Nietzche himself did not believe in God as an actual being, he considered God to exist purely as a concept. Which would explain the wording of the quote pretty well, actually. So, using that logic, the quote implied that God as a divine being does not exist, as well as the concept of God is on the way out. tl;dr=Nietzche is meh. Also, I don't know why you guys are talking about gathering up in the fiery underworld. We'll be all meeting up at the courtyard in Valhalla, greeting each other with axe and sword! Then we shall feast on pork and mead served to us in the great hall by beautiful valkyries. All to hone our skills and await the day we don our war-gear and aid the all-father in his battle against the great wolf during the ragnarok. It shall be glorious, comrades! |
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i would really like to discuss such things with you, but i fear, that when i try this in english, it will not sound as i wish it to sound.
and btw, i'm not illiterate...i have the pleasure of studying at an university, tabris. thanks to miburo for pointing out that i really didn't answer to any discussion, and perhaps it was a mistake by me, not saying i posted that in an adbot threat. but then i still thought RNB was the only one who thought i was illiterate :> edit: holy shit, i corrected some grave mistakes, sorry for these >_< but bare with me, i was kinda hammered yesterday and this morning my head was not that clear yet... |
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Yeah, it's kinda obvious English isn't Nerox's first language. RNB was responding to something Nerox posted in a thread that is now in the hall of fail section, I assumed.
And what?...Science can be used to prove things. I have a feeling that statement was just worded weirdly or something though. And that you're referring to how science is more about unbiased observation and experimentation, while making no claims of absolute certainty ever, or something along those lines. Totally agree on how the subject of philosophical skepticism, when taken too far, is uninteresting. And stupid as fuck. |
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i know nerox used the quote (in the "destroy the dream of the user above you" thread)
and i didn't think Nerox's english was bad, it's easy to understand. i just sort of assume anyone who doens't read and comprehend is illiterate. it's one of my more asshole-ish tendencies ( |
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just had that impression, no big ^^
and about nietzsche's phrase being misinterepreted many times through history; yes, that's right, and i did nothing else. i used that phrase to imply my religious beliefs and also to answer to a stupid adbotthread, which is silly in some way i suppose ^^ nietzsche pusblished that theory in the time of the european nihilism and thus wanted to show the people of this time, that they lost the christian values and the moral behind christianity. and with these moral or values died "god". still, i often, and to my shame perhaps, use this term with pleasure, because i know i can upset religious people as well as some stuck up smartasses :> (no insult to you, i like your way of arguing and discussing, but some people i know are that stuck up...) so, i think this is settled... http://www.pictureupload.de/original...19_copilot.gif |
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