Originally Posted by Kakkakuzu
I just said that Orochimaru didn't try to fight him to kill him. He tried to fight him to take over his body. There's a difference. If it was a fight to the death, there's no way that battle would end so easily. Or at least the whole manga loses what little credibility it had at that moment to me.
A guy who runs away from Jiraya (with a partner as well), beats Orochimaru with a simple genjutsu (alone)? Does not make sense.
Are you saying to me that Orochimaru is weaker to that genjutsu than Jiraya? Or that Jiraya has jutsus that aren't as useless as Orochimaru's jutsus? Orochimaru could take several heavy hits of different kinds from 4-tailed Kyuubi/Naruto, yet escaped in pretty good condition, but one simple genjutsu and he's done for? Does not compute.
How does that surprise you? Orochimaru's body is like a snake, meaning every scar he gets after the battle he sheds. Once he sheds, he has no more bruises, no more cuts, no more damage. Does Jiraiya have that ability? Of course not, that's why Jiraiya was left with that scar by naruto in his kyuubi state. Itachi hit Orochimaru where it hurts the most, mentally. Orochimaru's body as we've seen countless of times can take the biggest beatings and still come back to take some more, thus proving it's pretty useless to beat him that way. Which is perfect because someone like Itachi who doesn't usually get his hands dirty, can easily beat him through a mental state, a.k.a Genjutsu. By attacking his mind instead of his body he proved victorious.
Even if Orochimaru could do his ninjutsus and attempted to kill, what would it made a difference? The majority of his jutsus would have been either copied or used against him. Not to mention there's the Mangekyou Sharingan which would be an even easier way to kill Orochimaru.
The reason Itachi and Kisame had to run from that place was because they were going to be swallowed by the toad's throat. There was no way out of that situation without making a hole for yourself. Itachi knew that and wasted no time by using Amaterasu. His chakra reached an all time low and he had to run because Kisame alone couldn't beat Jiraiya. ZZzZzzz Itachi did not fight against Jiraiya so we don't know if Jiraiya could beat him or not.