Originally Posted by liuaishan
except for naruto.
- oro stuffed Sasuke with some jutsus and weapons and skills and a that jutsu, and full control on CS2 and who knows how much more (plus the absorbed abilities after overtake)
- while jiraya did an oodama rasengan, some bit better use of kage bunshin, and a bit of genjutsu deffence, which doesn't even work.
i disagree completly.
Jiraya gave naruto exactly the type of training he need. Better control over the Kyubi's chakra laid the foundations for Naruto's great strenghts. With out better kyubi chakra control Naruto wouldn't be able to kage bushin train or improving the rasengan by infusing an element with it with out losing control of himself( yamato helps but still better control from Naruto's part makes it easier). Also Channeling the kyubi's chakra t enhance his own power is Naruto's ace in the hole, hopefully he improves in that area as well.