Originally Posted by uchihamadara
what you are saying is true pein won because of his secret if not jiraiya would have wiped the floor with him. whatever pein secret is it has to be real significant to give pein such an advantage.
I'm simply saying anyone must recover, thats all. You may disagree, and thats fine, but after the battle with Jiraiya, the Uchiha battle began, Kisame vs. team Hebi began (assumed), and Madera vs. Konoha Shinobi, all whom hasn't been tested at all, and are know as Uber Shinobi for their age group, combined with Kakashi, Yamato, Sakura's power and intelligence, Naruto and the power of the Kyuubi, additionally they all have been working at least cohesively as a unit, though sometimes (Kiba) a hot dog sticks out. I may be walking out on a limb, but without rest, coming straight from the battle with Jiraiya, I'd take Konoha over Pein, he's beatable, he showed zero genjutsu's and a weakness against it. A serious fight to the death, no ones leaving till its done, I give to Konoha right now, not Madera Time Space Jutsus Pwn all currently.