Originally Posted by c4rl0s
tahts to be revealed, despite the manga mentioning he is madara, who knows...
btw, back when sasori was killed, there was only zetsu and tobi in the cave. However, tobi acted as if he was stupid, and called him zetsu-san. Are we sure zetsu knows tobi´s real identity since the begining?
Little if anything makes sense in the Akatsuki... they don't protect members, (Hidan, Kazuku, Deidara, Sasori, Itachi), Pein has been called the leader by Tobi, Tobi the leader by Pein, Pein has called Tobi Madera, as well as Zetsu. But at the same time he did act like a fool originally, Pein spoke sadly of the loss of Deidara, and barked on Itachi to tell Sasori about Naruto. Then this is the kicker Madera helped Itachi during the Uchiha Massacre, he is Itachi's mentor, but he's a shell of his former self, that just joined the Akatsuki that he formed in the first place and never even spoke to Itachi before he perished, now tie up those loose ends and your doing something Kishi.