Originally Posted by MikeyM1979
Translation: I gave no proof that Orochimaru can beat Jiraiya, so I'd better go make a poll, as if that changes anything.
Again, I'm not a Jiraiya fanboy.
I've even commented in a PM to Nami on how I'm shocked I find myself even defending him here.
The proof is in how Orochuamru was superior all their lives, when they left, and how they both lived their lives since then. It's common sense