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Originally Posted by Redneckboy
Job wasn't perfect though. He didn't have perfect love, which means that there was room for improvement. Either way, I don't find it that excessive because I don't take the book of Job as a literal story like you. I find it to be more symbolic.
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So what he perfect afterwards? If not, I suppose God should have fucked him up more, right?
And I'm not taking the story literally either. I'm saying that surely there must have been a better way to show that materialism is silly without making God look like an asshole in the process. Obviously, I don't think anything in this story really happened; I'm saying that the story itself is stupid.
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Yes, he did give permission for Satan to do pretty much whatever he wanted with Job, but what was the outcome? Job ended up being better than who he was at the start.
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Show that he was "better." Because rereading it, he seemed like a pretty damn good guy before. Look at it this way: Let's say I really appreciated the fact that I had healthy eye-sight. Then I lose sight in an eye. Do I appreciate healthy eye-sight MORE now that I only can see out of one eye? Nah, because I never took it for granted in the first place.
Same with Job. It really didn't seem like he was taking anything for granted before God decided to fuck with his life so that he could have a bet with Satan. So I'm not really sure how he became better because of it.
And you're still ignoring the part where God did it because of a bet, not because he decided to teach anyone any lessons.
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Also, this is a personal interpretation of mine, but I believe God already made destiny so he would have known the outcome of Satan's bet.
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If that's the case, then that's even worse. "You loved me to begin with, and I already knew you'd love me no matter what happened, but I let Satan fuck with your life anyway, lol!"
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See, but that would be you saying that you knowledge is better than a supposed, perfect god. While it isn't proven, we must assume that this God is perfect.
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"God works in mysterious ways..." Cop-out. = /
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I was talking about you not understanding the value of faith in a god of some sort.
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Considering I was defending faith because I'm fully aware it helps people live their lives for the last two pages or so, that seems like quite the silly thing to say on your part.
Just because I personally don't need that shit doesn't mean I don't understand it.