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Re: Opinions on Christianity
I have several rebutals to the invalid arguments that you have made about following God, Jesus Christ, Christianiy, and the Bible.
Originally Posted by Miles T
Persecution, delusion, hindrance of human progression and prejudice are 'kind of cool'?
So...arbitrarily making up that there's a 'God' and harbouring that delusion in one's mind (which will, in practice, always influence one's behaviour and very often result in proselytization) is 'cool'? And you also think it would be 'cool' if everyone had they had imaginary friends?
At this point I'm wondering and hoping that you're just kidding and suspecting that you'll now mock me for not spotting your sarcasm.
Persecution-In the Bible people who believe in Jesus Christ and followed Him were persecuted, in the Bible Jesus says,"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you." (Matthew 5:11-12)
Delusion- Their is nothing delusional about the Word of God or about believing in God or Jesus. Just because you cannot physically see them does not mean that they do not exist. For example can you or anyone else for that matter physically see, love, hope, joy or happiness? We can not see these things physically but we can see the effects caused by them. From my personal experience with Jesus Christ all I can say about Him is that He is truly real, so very real. When I say real I mean it in three ways: I'm saying that He exist and I am also saying that He is the truth. When Jesus speaks in the Bible it hits at my heart and I know know that it is the truth. On top of this I see Jesus as the real deal, as in He is real love. When He speaks I hear love and by His actions I see love. This is one of the many scriptures that I hear love when he speaks:
7Therefore Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, I am the gate for the sheep. 8All who ever came before me were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.[a] He will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
11"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12The hired hand is not the shepherd who owns the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. 13The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.
14"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father." (John 10:7-18).
I also see love in the previous scripture because Jesus Christ actually did what he said, He died for His sheep on the cross-He died for our sins and saved us all.
He is the truth and He is very real, if that makes me delusional for believing so, then that's fine with me! I'd rather be crazy for God and Jesus any day than be sane without Him. Also you made a claim about the "hindrance of human progression", which is also not true. In the previous scripture Jesus says,"The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."(John 10:10) This is the truth, in my own life I was broken and messed up, I was really at the brink of flirting with loosing it completly but Jesus kept me, it was because of Him that I have life today and am typing this message to you right now. I could of been anywhere else but I'm here safe and sound, I've been delivered from something awful and I'm grateful for being able to have new life in Christ Jesus. So the truth about God and Jesus is that they give life, they don't hinder it and They love us so much!
I also find God and Jesus to be very cool, I see nothing wrong in that either. Even though I can't physically see God I know that He is here with me by the way that He continously shows up in my life and a person also gets to a point that even though they can't actually understand everything about God or get exactly what it is that He is doing that they will still trust in Him...having faith in Him through the good, bad, and inbetweens, just the same as he's loved us through the good, bad, and inbetweens times, He's always good and I just wanted to share that with you.
Here's something for everyone to think about :
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."(John 3:16-17)