Originally Posted by jasminegreen
But Jiraiya wasn't goofing off that whole time. He had t keep an eye on Orochimaru. He was able to find out and let the Hokage know about the gang of ninja that will come after Naruto. And from a chapter in the manga, Jiraiya forget that he was appointed Naruto's godfather. And in the same chapter or maybe a chapter after it, Jiraiya was thinking that he was a failure, so maybe he though Naruto would have someone better to take care of him and that Naruto would do better without him. Then when he came to the village, during the Chunin exam, he saw that no one cared about or was helping Naruto so he stepped in to resume his duties.
um, now i'm even more confused. jaraiya might be old but he is not that dimwitted. How are you honestly going to defend jaraiya and yet call kakashi an asshole? Jariaya had more claim to be his teacher than kakashi. And are you saying in 14 years jaraiya couldn't find some time to check in and teach him? but kakashi with his postion of being send on missions by the hokage and captaion of an anbu team doesn't deserve any grace? how much time are we even giving kakashi anyway compared to jaraiya one year or two from the time he was appointed?
On a different note notice that after the chunin exams who is the stronger one naruto. he did what kakashi said by training on basics and taking them to new levels. walk on water and rasengan were examples of this. also he beat gaara when sasuke could not. i'd say the tale of manga speaks for itself.