Re: Jesus, not the first
I would like to make the Godliness of Jesus as clear as possible to you guys based on the Bible. Though, I'm not going to put verses because some people might get offended. So here it is:
Apostle Paul told Timothy that the Mystery of the Godliness is God turning into flesh to bring salvation. Though before this time, Prophet Isiah said no one would believe Jesus was God (Yoshue/Jesus means "God became salvation" in some Jewish translation) and everyone would try to deny and show proofs that he is not God (Pharisees tried). Well, that said Jesus called himself the "Son of God" or as the Bible scholars calls it "the Body of the Living God" (that's what Messiah or Christ mean). So everybody assumed he was just God the Son. There's one problem though, God said he's one, not three. So, bible scholars did more studying this is what they found: God said that we should search him and come to know him by reading his words meaning to understand how God works w/o doubts in us, we should read the word itself not other books that is not the Bible. Therefore, these scholars studied him and they found a verse in the Bible saying that man is made through his image and a man only has three parts: Soul, Body, Spirit. Now even though its not in the Bible we call it: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. But he is one. Now, how could a Human being claim he is God? And where in the Bible did he say he is God? Oh, trust me. He tried to tell everyone he was God though they stoned him. Why? He's a human being! That's why he refers to himself as the "Son of God" to prevent that happening but he never called himself "God the Son" but he said "My father and I are one". People got mad at him, even today that wrath's still inside people's heart. Now, why does this one God pray to himself then? I wondered too. But they found another proof why he prays to himself. They notice that he prays when people actually sees it. Why? Paul said to the Colossians that Jesus was an example, a firstborn. That's why we are called Christians because one of the reason God came to earth and manifests into the lowest flesh is because he wanted to show how live a humble life. He never said, to his followers to go kill his haters. He even healed one of them because Peter cut the ears of one of the man who's attacking Jesus. He never hated on anyone. He just got hated. He just became an example, because if everyone can live like that, oh trust me, wars are history. He is the image of God. He said anyone who sees him sees the Father. He told Thomas that God's inside him (meaning soul). Paul even proved it to himself by persecuting Christians. He was blinded and and he asked, "my God who are you?" he said "I am Jesus....". That's why many true Christians were and are still persecuted because they never fight back.
If you have any questions or you want those verses, you could just PM me.
That said, @Gamr1469- Dude, Jesus was proven to exists according to census made in his timeline. Some of the people you put are mythical although alot of them were not. Though, I tell you, Constantine's a pagan and he changed alot in Christianity that's why it sounded as if Jesus was like any other "Messiah". Though, study show that Jesus wasn't born in December 25 and also they proved Constatine to convert not because he wanted to but because he wanted peace between people and Christians. Though many Christians did not stick with his "pagan merging with Christianity". They reserved the real Bible and based every single thing there. Constatine's idea of Christianity though with huge changes develop to become the "Roman Catholics". That's why some people separates Christians and Roman Catholics. Also, Christians never started wars or anything. They never fought back of they can. The so called Christians that are aggressive were Constatine's. That's why dude, try reading a Bible which wasn't based on Constatine's belief. Old testaments were recovered by historians while the New Testament was passed down. And I also noticed something, why is it always Jesus hated on and why are people proving him wrong? I mean we can just prove Allah or Buddha wrong. Why Jesus even though there's a lot more choices and some other people rejected him and went to other "Gods"? Why not prove other Gods wrong? Oh yeah, because God predicted that people in the last days would barely believe in God, mainly Jesus( or just make fun of him, he predicted that also) and primarily, not at all.
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Last edited by Migagawe; 02-17-2009 at 06:40 PM.