Originally Posted by Smashwa
I think all he meant was that madara was using his MS to see through the 4ths movements.
I doubt madara actually beat the 4th (physically). The 4th just realise that stoppping the nine tails was more import than defeating the ninja. So he made the ultimate sacrafice.
I dont think madara beat the Minato but i think madara is the closes one on his level. I mean Madara is obviously strong because of the way Minato talked about him.