The 4th Hokage
Ok. So what is the deal with the guy? He obviously is a very skilled Ninja if he became Hokage. He isn't a pushover. But how strong is he?
He obviously is very skilled to create 2 Major Jutsu. Rasengan, and Flying Thunder God. However, Rasengan was in its basic form, and nothing compared to the Rasenshuriken. No doubt he could create something equal to the Rasenshuriken if he had more time alive.
Flying Thunder God is a great technique, but how effective is it against someone that is a Kage, or of equal skill level, like a Sannin, or Akatsuki member. We saw him use it against people of around Chunin, or Jonin skill level, but most likely they were Chunin, as Jonin leader Squads. The technique is impressive, but the Sharingan could counter that.
Another technique he might have created was Reaper Death Seal. The 3rd Hokage called it "His [the 4th's] technique." But did he really invent it? It seem that there are certain Jutsu Kages learn when they are giving the position. They have access to all the secret scrolls.
Either way, he was a AMAZING ninja. But, how amazing?
He became a Genin at the age of 10. How impressive is that? Kakashi was a genin at 5, and Chunin at 6. It does seem that as the generations go by it takes longer and longer for people to become Genin. Kakashi's age group has a higher graduation age than Naruto's age group, which is all 12. All, but Sai (who i realized shares by birthday and age. The gay guy had to have my birthday...damm), who was raised to be great. So does Shizune's and all the previous Sp.Jonin during the original Naruto. The Akatsuki also have very high graduation ages as well.So he obviously was not a child prodegy, like Itachi, or Kakashi were.
Obviously that doesn't mean anything for his skill level. He had to be amazing as he was revered as great. However, was this just because he gave his life for the village? Was it just because he sealed the fox? It wasn't tottaly because of those things, but they probably contributed. If he died of disease, he would not be revered as much.
Now his skills were limited, just like Naruto. Same moves, every fight, or and over again. Rasengan, Summoning, FTG, and he used RDS once. Much like Naruto. BUNSHIN, BUNSHIN, BUNSHIN!!! Sasuke and Itachi used how many differant techniques? They used everything they had! Jiraya used MANY more jutsu's against Pein than the 4th ever used.
Now, lets compare.
He doesn't have Haxor like Naruto, or Bee. FTG is only useful if you can first hit the opponent with the seal, or if the kunai gets near him. He killed himself...
Now the first Hokage did what? He fought the 9TF AND Madara who is said to be one of, if not the greatest ninja? He technically won that fight. Madara probably was at his last leg, but got lucky that the First spared him. No way the First would let him lgo without knowing. He had to do it knowingly. The Fourth couldn't even take out the 9TF when it was ALONE without any help, and he didn't have to fight Madara. He was in the Shadows!
Now he obviosuly isn't the physically strongest as that goes to the 1st/5th. He wasn't the greatest nagotiator/tactitician as that was the 3rd. The 3rd knew many more jutsu than him and was the smartest Hokage. The Second kinda failed, but whatever. He had to have something good about him. So this is why i ask this. What was special about the 4th? No doubt Kakashi is just as good as him. His Sharingan would counter FTG, and he is much more level headed than he was when he fought with Obito against enemy Ninja.
Another thing was that he was not "battle hardened" like the 1st was. The 1st fought thousands of Fights on the brink of death against Madara. He lead a whole clan and had much greater amounts of chakra than the 4th if he created the whole Leaf Forest in 1 go.
So, what can we say about his skill? Who can we compare him too, and was he as great as they say? Was he revered just because he gave his life?
Now i want everyone to know, im not saying he was weak in any way. He was VERY strong. Just was he as strong as they made him out to be?
Im also sure this topic will be total flamez to all the 4th Fanboys.
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