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Old 11-20-2009, 01:54 PM   #80
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Re: Naruto's Homosexuality

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Originally Posted by Ero-Sage View Post
1. OP bailed after dropping his troll bomb. Must've took all his literary acumen to write it in the first place. Now he has to rely on his antogonistic buddies to continue the troll.
Nobody is trolling. And it's been less than 24 hours since he even posted this. Some people have shit to do and can't be online to reply to every homophobic or illogical argument that gets thrown at them. Take for example, this argument. You're attempting to discredit people of a certain stance by insulting them. That's an illogical argument. Ad hominen. Look it up.
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2. The simple fact that this thread got stickied speaks volumes.
Of how good of a theory it is, perhaps.
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3. Nobody has challenged Azumi's, TSH's, or Kinako's arguments effectively. They have only tried to whirlwind the arguments with misdirection and attacks on grammer/format.
Okay, master debater. You clearly know how debating works, after all. No one pointed out the logical fallacies in any of their arguments, right? But I guess since you say so, it must be true. lolol

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Originally Posted by Kinako View Post
But my argument is "FROM SOURCE". As a matter of fact the same sources that the Tzu Men guy brought up.
Here, you admit that your argument is based on the same sources that Tzu used.
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All of his "evidence" comes from twisted-around one line statements from each issue and if you read those entire issues from all of his "evidence" you will see that his arguments are based on OPINON not CANON or FACT.
They're based on the same things you're basing your opinion on, BY YOUR OWN ADMITTANCE.

Also, you guys seem to not get the concept of opinions and facts. It may be his opinion (and the opinion of many others, all of whom are intelligent people who are rather well-versed in logic...) that naruto may be a homosexual. But his opinion is formulated based on facts shown in the manga. We've all discussed this in another thread, and we're open to the idea that Naruto may end up not being gay. But there is evidence that suggests that he may also end up being gay. Since we admit the fact that our theory may end up being falsified, that makes our theory even more logical. Because any theory that is good allows for the possibility of falsification.

Your opinion is that naruto is definitely a heterosexual. You seem to completely dismiss the possibility that he could be gay. No way, no how. He is straight. However, that is also just an opinion, a theory. It is just as Jaxon said. Naruto has never made his sexual orientation clear. Your position is not in any way superior to ours. If anything, it is a drastically inferior theory since you're claiming we're wrong. He isn't gay. That doesn't allow for falsification. Your essentially claiming that your theory is unfalsifiable. As any person well-versed in logic and reasoning can tell you, an unfalsifiable theory is a poor theory. If you'd like, I can link you to some websites that explain how theories and logic work, should you need further explanation.
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