Originally Posted by Miburo
Nobody is trolling. And it's been less than 24 hours since he even posted this. Some people have shit to do and can't be online to reply to every homophobic or illogical argument that gets thrown at them. Take for example, this argument. You're attempting to discredit people of a certain stance by insulting them. That's an illogical argument. Ad hominen. Look it up.
Of how good of a theory it is, perhaps.
Okay, master debater. You clearly know how debating works, after all. No one pointed out the logical fallacies in any of their arguments, right? But I guess since you say so, it must be true. lolol
Here, you admit that your argument is based on the same sources that Tzu used.
They're based on the same things you're basing your opinion on, BY YOUR OWN ADMITTANCE.
Also, you guys seem to not get the concept of opinions and facts. It may be his opinion (and the opinion of many others, all of whom are intelligent people who are rather well-versed in logic...) that naruto may be a homosexual. But his opinion is formulated based on facts shown in the manga. We've all discussed this in another thread, and we're open to the idea that Naruto may end up not being gay. But there is evidence that suggests that he may also end up being gay. Since we admit the fact that our theory may end up being falsified, that makes our theory even more logical. Because any theory that is good allows for the possibility of falsification.
Your opinion is that naruto is definitely a heterosexual. You seem to completely dismiss the possibility that he could be gay. No way, no how. He is straight. However, that is also just an opinion, a theory. It is just as Jaxon said. Naruto has never made his sexual orientation clear. Your position is not in any way superior to ours. If anything, it is a drastically inferior theory since you're claiming we're wrong. He isn't gay. That doesn't allow for falsification. Your essentially claiming that your theory is unfalsifiable. As any person well-versed in logic and reasoning can tell you, an unfalsifiable theory is a poor theory. If you'd like, I can link you to some websites that explain how theories and logic work, should you need further explanation.
It seems like you don't want to believe he isn't. I used his "evidence" to show that everything he was presenting was not a fact. But you and the Surfs Up crew are trying to pass it off as FACT and not OPINION. Yeah it is my OPINION and also FACT that he isnt gay, and obviously you didnt read my post in page 4 about why he isn't. Read it and since you like disecting people's posts, disect that post on page 4 and then tell how me it is wrong. The fact that you are only trying to disect my shorter posts in later pages clearly show that you can't. I can accept the fact that your little crew feels that way about Naruto, but it seems like you belittle those that don't (like myself and others). But if your buddy would have presented actual evidence PROVING that he IS, then I would have not made any posts. BUT HE DIDNT so dont try to talk down to me in such a condescending way because I feel differently. I can respect your opinions and wishes but until Naruto starts asking dudes on dates instead of Sakura.....THE BOY IS NOT GAY.
tl dr- come with actual facts to state why he is. Tzu Men's don't count out here. and he isnt here to defend that bullshit so it really dont count. A Man has to stand by his word.