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Old 11-20-2009, 09:16 PM   #138
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Re: Naruto's Homosexuality

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Originally Posted by TheSixthHokage View Post
Never in the manga has there even been a slight hint of homosexuality. You are stretching strong male-male relations to the breaking point.
Interpretation once again.
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Naruto’s disinterest in Jiraiya’s books is not that shocking... some straight men don’t like strip clubs, does this mean they take it up the ass?
Not on its own no.
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Naruto is constantly complaining about how Jiraiya forces him to go into the Pervy Jutsu, so why would he complain if it was what he wanted.
I never said the pederastry was encouraged by Naruto, he allows it in order to be trained.
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Furthermore, when he desired attention from Jiraiya, as a male mentor, why did he not use it? He wallowed in self-pity, learning the Rasengan alone, without complaining... and guess what? He never used it to re-gain that attention Jiraiya gave him when they first met.
He's not a whore man.
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Wait... you are arguing that a visual representation of his disgust is contrary to his inner feelings, despite the fact that the mode of media is entirely visual. Holy fuck. This is like me arguing the politics of a composer by listening to his music. Epic fail.
See, this is why you need structure, what are you referring to?
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You are assuming that Narutoverse has homosexuals and is not a reflection of Kishimoto’s own cultural lens that is openly homophobic. Japan is a very conservative country and does not embrace homosexuality, thus why it is so often a scape-goat as in other cultures. Thinking that Sasuke feels a similar social pressure is also foolish and Sasuke wants to “re-build his clan,” somewhat difficult when one is homosexual.
Nice slap of projection there, and Sasuke has never explicitly stated what he means by that. Clans can be rebuilt in other ways.
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Jesus Christ, the graffitti is graffitti. Haku was a very feminine boy, thus why Naruto was attracted to him. Why hasn’t Naruto been attracted to any boys since? Oh yeah. Because he’s straight. Another attempt by Kishimoto to be funny. Actually, his attempts are quite concurrent with being an orphan who desperately needs any attention. That technique was another source of humour, which was used against Gaara only because Naruto assumed “he’d be weaker at the bottom.” Strategy is key.
Subtext and lack of humour.
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The last paragraph is such a stretch it’s not even worth my time. Anyone who is defeated is put in a position of less power, they are degraded in the social hierarchy. This can conjur thoughts of sexual hedonism, having that complete control over the other. But the defining factor of homosexuality is actually DOING of the acts... being naked with another man is not homosexual until sexual activity begins.
Subtext.
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Furthermore, Sasuke leaning over to Naruto is more like a bow, a respectful admission of Naruto’s equal skills. Their similarities are as brothers, who hate and love each other at the same time.
That's a valid alternative interpretation, but it still doesn't disprove others.
(Not considering the conclusion as it just reiterates the last points.)
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If he were gay, his 1st crush would have been a boy if not Sasuke.
For most people sexuality isn't decided at birth.
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Sorry did it in word, isn't being that co-operative after being copied. You'll have to suffer through I am afraid.
I typed my post in word, are you sure you know how to use it?
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Originally Posted by ThePRODIGY View Post
there are so many gay things and actions in this manga to single out only naruto to be gay is a crime why not sai or gai or rock lee or kakashi or Kb because they all did or say things that either looked or sounded gay right or wrong?
Because unlike Naruto there isn't sufficient subtext and evidence for most of those characters to really suggest it.
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