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Old 01-26-2010, 07:12 AM   #9
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Re: Ichigo should have been trained in kidoh

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Yami was in 10th espada form, and Ichigo was beating him easily while in Bankai until is hollow destabilized him. Also given what we know about Yammi now i doubt Yoruichi and Urahara would walk all over him at base.
Yes, Ichigo was using Bankai, that's the problem. In Yammy's rank 10 form, Ichigo was raping him in Bankai. Urahara was doing it just with his Shikai. Why does Ichigo have to pull out all of the stops just to accomplish what the renown shinigami can do at a fraction of their strength?

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Tousen cut GJ's arm because he was his superior, and GJ was in Aizen's presence which means GJ had to maintain a certain lvl of composure. Specially since he disobeyed orders and was in need of punishment.
Tousen's Zanpaktou wasn't even in Shikai form, yet he was able to effortlessly cut Grimm's arm clean off. That would show how far Ichigo needs to come, considering his Bankai can barely to that much without his hollow mask...

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Ulquiorra had a second lvl of resurrection. That alone puts him in a higher lvl of feats than most of the other espada. Sure he said that there were 3 other espada whom were stronger than him to Ichigo, but he also said that not even Aizen had seen his R2 form which means it was probably not factored in on ranking.
Though Ulq said himself that the others were stronger than him. He never said based off Aizen's knowledge, there are three others stronger than him... And Ulq's second resurrection was based off rapid healing, more so than power, or anything else... I believe Stark was faster and could potentially destroy Ulq's organs with those cero wolves that cling onto targets...

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Halibel has done panel wise
Aizen killed her (she could of had more to her)... Why I don't know... She was more beneficial than Tousen in my opinion.

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Bottom line is, the goten captains got their asses kicked by the top 3, whom Ulquiorra and GJ rival when it comes to feats. Bankai is a must to fight these guys otherwise you die, so Ichigo is right by having Bankai active on every battle because all of his opponents are insanely strong.
What about Ukitake (oh yeah, hand through chest from stupid idiot)... Shunsui offed Stark like he was some newb... Yes, the Captains in "general" [this doesn't count Old Man Yama either] did get messed up pretty bad however, when we see Shunsui fight with his regular Zanpaktou for a while then switch to his Shikai to heat things up shows how advanced his skills are. We haven't even seen the top 3, or 4 captains use Bankai, or even go serious...

Heck, even the squirt didn't go Bankai from the start... He fought Hailbel with while holding some of his power back, yet when things heated up, he switched to Bankai...

It's not interesting when Ichigo goes Bankai automatically. The fight isn't drawn out, and Ichigo doesn't look any better by buffing himself up to 100% (in the beginning) and getting smashed the next second (that's why I'm saying Ichigo isn't that developed)... The boss didn't even buff up to his max form yet... Ichigo has to be fighting at max just to barely tie with his opponent's initial form. There's no suspense either because Ichigo pulling out almost all of his tricks to start off. At least lead me to the climax...
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