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Old 01-26-2010, 09:21 AM   #11
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Re: Ichigo should have been trained in kidoh

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Urahara and Yoruichi were beating Yammy and so was Ichigo, so whats the big deal about him doing it in Bankai form when it was overkill ??
It's different because Ichigo needed Bankai, while the other two didn't. Why can't Ichigo be strong without automatically relying on his Bankai? Going off that implication, Urahara and Yoruichi (assuming Bankai= approximately 5-10x one's power) would slaughter Ichigo.

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Mayuri, Byakuya, Soifon, Toushiro and Kummamura all had to use Bankai when the shit hit the fan. Ichigo just goes full out from the beginning which makes sense since he fought 2 incredibly powerful espada.
He uses it right before the match. How fun would it be if every good guy, or bad guy just went to the maximum form right off? I mean you can't really expect much surprises throughout the match. Thats why I like watching the captains fight over watching Ichigo fight. Fox man uses Bankai right out from the start as of lately though.

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But Stark was able to fight him to the point where Ukitake had to step in and fry both love and the blond guy before he ended it with his weird Shikai.

Stark still manage to slice him the back during, newb he was not.
He was offed the moment Shunsui's Shikai effect kicked in. He was killed kind of effortlessly. And we have to take into account his Shikai doesn't work all the time. What if it just happened to work right after Stark released? And Ukitake told Shunsui not to use his Bankai. If Shunsui had done so, that would mean Stark could have looked even more pathetic.

Shunsui wasn't even fighting at full strength and that screaming kid distracted Shunsui as well, which allowed for Stark to shoot him in the back. They both played kind of dirty...

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You said in your previous post that Tousen pwned GJ by cutting his arm off, my response was that GJ couldn't fight back because he was being punished by his superiors. He wanted to retaliate but Aizen intimidated him before he could do anything.
Yeah you're not getting what I'm saying.

Ichigo in Bankai used Getsuga, this hardly put a dent in Grimm's armor...

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/212/05/

Tousen's unreleased Zanpaktou cut off Grimm's arm... I'm talking about the strength of the attack this time, not the circumstances...

I'm going to requote what I said earlier about Ichigo's strength...

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Ichigo is captain level, but in my opinion, he isn't on the level of Shunsui and Old Man Yama...
Yet he has to face Aizen... You'd think by this point in time he'd seem in a way capable of defeating Aizen... Not 100% of course, but it should look as though he's capable. In no way does it appear as though Ichigo is on par with the upper captains... That's really what it boils down to. HE's better than the average captain, but at the same time, probably no where near the upper ones, which really counts because Aizen is most certainly stronger than the upper captains..
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